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Hello, friends and cousins:
I have the following probate information, and I'm not sure what to do next in order to find the copy of the document. I'm sure many among you will know the answer.
Index to Complete Probate Record Books 1, 2 & 3 A-I
Owen County, Indiana 1829 - 1849
LNAME=Hilsabeck; FNAME=John; BOOK=3; PAGE=480
Thanks once again for all the help I continually find from contributors to this mailing list!
Elizabeth E. Chain, Ph.D.
Chandler, Arizona 85225
(480)814-1652
My great-grandfather John C. Criss, born in Owen County, had a sister named
Matilda Criss who Married Frederick W. Shaley, a prosperous market owner in
Terre Haute. The Criss family lived in Owen County in the 1840's, 50's,
60's, etc. Their granddaughter by marriage wrote up a family history in
1929 that said the following:
" The [Criss] family moved by wagon trail to Iowa, but grandmother
[Nancy France Criss (Mrs. William Criss) was so dissatisfied over the
unsettled condition of affairs prior to the Civil War that she persuaded her
husband to return to Indiana, which they did about 1858, to their old
community [Vandalia]"
There is probably some truth in this document, but a few of the names of the
children do not agree with a prior list I had obtained from other
researchers, so it's hard to know what to make of it. However, it does
agree with the findings of others on this list that various families went to
Iowa. There was nothing but sadness for this family once the men became
involved in the Civil War, although my great-grandfather, only 15 at the
time, survived after being wounded.
Hello everyone. Here are some more articles from my Great Aunt's
scrapbooks. I hope they help someone.
Thank you-FRED
Fred's Family Page
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~findingyourfamily/fred.html
"OBITUARY"
"David H. Harris (my GREAT GRANDFATHER), was born in Tuscarawas Co.,
Ohio, March 26, 1851. He and his parents moved to Indiana when he was a
small child. He resided near and in Odon, Daviess County, until the fall
of 1899, when he and his family moved to Indianapolis. He married Martha
SOMMER, now deceased, June 11, 1880. To this union were born three
children - Ed HARRIS, Mrs. May Clutter and Mrs. Lillian Grimes( My Aunt
Lilly who saved all these wonderful scrapbooks and incuded some thing she
inherited as well), all living at home now. He has four grand children
living, and one deceased, and two great grandchildren. He has been as a
father also for quite a number of years to his wife's niece, Cindy
McBURNEY.
He was a master carpenter by trade having followed that skilled craft as
inherited from his German furniture maker ancestors. He followed that
trade until a fall injured him and left him unfit for manual labor.
He recently became a member of the Asbury Memorial Methodist Church. He
was a charter member of the Knights of Pythias Lodge in Odon, Indiana.
He depated this life Saturday, 1:25 AM, July 17, 1943, at his home, 223
Hiawatha St., after six months of suffering. Though his years were
numbered even beyond four score years and ten, his mind remainded clear
and active.
After church services, he was interred in the HARRIS family plot in Crown
Hill Cemetery in Indianapolis.
UPON THE EVENT OF HIS FATHER'S DEATH, HIS SON (MY GRANDFATHER) WROTE THE
FOLLOWING......
(My Grandfather was a camping and outing buddy of Indiana's own Hoosier
poet, James Whitcomb Riley, so if there are similarities of style, I can
understand)
"A FAMILY MEETING"
We are all we have
Father Mother Sisters Brother
Each chair is filled, we're all at home
Tonight let no cold stranger come
It is not often, thus around
Our old familiar hearth were found
So bless then the meeting and the spot
For once let every care be forgot
Let gentle peace assert here forever
And kind affection rule the hour
For we're all here.
Even they, the dead, though dead, so dear
Fond memories to their duty true
Bring back their faded form to view
How life through the mist of years
We now see them as in time long past
>From each to each, kind looks we cast
We hear their words, their smiles behold
They're round us, as they were of old
This may not long of us be said
For soon we too, must join the gathered dead
Then by some other hearth, we shall sit around
Oh, the that wisdom may we know
Which yields a life of peace below
So in this world to follow this
And each repeat these words of bliss
Bless God, we're all here---all here
By
Joseph Edgar HARRIS"
" OBITUARY"
"Joseph W. Seneff, after years of suffering and Consumption, died
Tuesday morning at 1:00am. Joe, as he was familiary known, was about 42
years old. He was a good citizen and a kind a friendly neighbor and an
exemplary gentleman. He was consistant member of the United Brethern
church of this place and his devotion to his religious duty was the
highest aim of his life. "How precious the love of Christ" and "I want
to be at home", were among his passions. He leaves a wife and four
children and a large circle of relatives to mourn his loss. His funeral
service was preached be the Rev Armen at the U B Church Wednesday
afternoon, after which his remains were place in their last resting place
in the Odon cemetery.
Novemeber 13, 1888"
"OBITUARY"
"Daniel Seneff died inDaviess County , Indiana, December 19th, 1877, aged
78 years, 19 months and 29 days. The subject of this notice was formerly
from the state of Ohio. He was coverted at the age of eighteen years,
and joined the Evengelical Association and was a member of that Church
until 1856 when he joined the United Brethern Churvch of which he was a
member until his death."
"OBITUARY"
"Susan Seneff, wife of Daniel Seneff, was born in Pennsylvania, and died
in Clarksburg, January 31, 1880, aged 73 years and two months. She
embraced religion at a very early age, and joined the Evengelical
Association of which she was a faithful member until the year 1856, when
she joined the United Brethern Church, in which she lived the balance of
her days. Her house for many years was a preaching point and a home for
the minister. She leaves five chidren, many grandchildren, and many
friends to mourn their loss. May they be reunited in Heaven."
"NEWS"
Clay City News (IN), July 1912
"Petticoats for 18 cents.
Outing flannel petticoats, in pink, blue of white, with fine stripe;
made with flounce; muslin band. Regular price 25 cents...Tuesday Special
....18 cents"
"Lawrenceburg-Certain persons have asked the Board of Education of this
city to seclude the picture of Frances E Willard which hangs on the walls
of the high school, until after the local option election has been held,
on the grounds that the likeness of the great Temperance worker would
have an effect of the local election results. (One can only IMAGINE what
THEY were voting on!)"
"Hartford City-Her objection to testifying against a neighbor is given as
the cause of the suicide of Mrs. F. H. Scott, 47. The Rev. Mr. Howard, a
minister of this city, is the defendant in a paternity suit brought by a
domestic of his family."
Have a wonderful 2003 everyone"
FRED
Hello Barbara,
Boy, you are a long way off. Washington State is clear across the country. You mention a family reunion. Do you get back to PA for that or is that out there in Washinton? We also have a family reunion for our Blacks in Beaver Co., PA.
Do you know if you have any family in PA or MD?
I am going to keep this info about the family and when I get up there, I will look into it. I didn't have to twist my husbands arm too much to get him to agree to go to Gettysburg for a week this summer or fall. We have been talking about it for a while now. We have been for a couple of days at a time but a week would be better. It would give us more time for research and I am going to try and get my mother, whose family this is, to go also. I will try and send you a picture of my husband and son in their civil war uniforms. The company that they are in reenacts both North and South. Although he is completely Southern, his ancestors all fought for the south, it is hard in the south to find groups that reenact Yankees. They all want to be Rebels. And I just discovered this last summer on my visit to Owen Co., IN that my gg grandfather James Huffman fought in the 97th IN Inf. for the north. In fact, there was one battle in North Carolina that my ancestor was fighting!
against my husband's ancestors. Very interesting. But both my husband and son really enjoy their hobby. I have not gotten into it yet. I think I like it being a father-son thing. It is good for them. It also give me some free week ends in the summer for research.(PS- there is a new movie coming out in Feb. called Gods And Generals about the Civil War. My husband and son are in the movie, might not be close ups but ....)
Have you been to PA? It is some feeling to walk on the same soil and look at the same country side that your ancestors did. While in Owen Co. this past year, it felt like coming home. We didn't want to leave. There was this one cemetery that we had been to three times and we didn't really find anything but it was like something or someone was calling us back there. The day before we had to leave, we were in the cemetery again and we hit the jackpot! There we found the stone of my ggg grandmother!! The stone was broken and laying up against another larger stone and a big rock lilly plant covering it over. Oh the joy!! She was not listed in the cemetery book that the DAR had done and was just overlooked like we had done before. But we were able to arrange to have her stone replaced and now she is there for all to see. I just had to share this.
I would love the information you have on the family in Emmittsburg. I never turn down info. because somewhere down the line it usually ends up being something I need. So I will accept any info you can send me. I may have some early Black info also if you would like that. I don't have much because I haven't started the research in this area of Franklin Co., PA yet.
I best to close for now.
Blessings,
Carol Lindamood
Max Meadows, VA
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara Black
To: Rick @ Carol
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Surname: Agee & Black
Hi Carol,
Yes, I would like to keep in touch, maybe we'll make a connection. I live in Eastern Washington State, so a long way away. My husbands gggrandfather John R. Black married Hannah Elizabeth Spangler who supposedly was b. in Mercerberg, Franklin Co., PA. They were married May 1, 1834. I would assume probably in Franklin Co. or maybe Adams Co. The information I have is from a family story that was written in 1925 at a family reunion. I haven't been able to find written proof of the births or marriage. The Hannah Spangler line has been researched way back, but we can't get passed John R. His father was suppose to be John Black Sr. John R. supposedly had two brothers and two sisters. Haven't located any proof of this. I would think it possible our Black's were in the Franklin Co., PA area since he married a woman from there and any census I've looked at all say they were born in PA.
That is so neat that your husband and son participate in the Civil War renactment. I would love to visit VA, PA, MD and see all the history.
Yes I have run across the German Swartz name being changed to Black. There was a family in Emmittsburg, back 1800's that did this. Haven't been able to make a definite conection there either. I do have some info on them. Will it up and send if you are interested.
Thank you so much for your information and interest. It would be so great if you find something at the library. Hope to hear from you soon.
Barbara Black
Pasco, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick @ Carol
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:58 AM
To: INOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Surname: Agee & Black
Hi again Barbara,
I just noticed a strange thing, which may or may not help us. I looked at the map for MD and PA. You say John R. Black may have been born in Emmettsburg, MD. That is so close to the border of PA. It is just south of Gettysburg, in Adams County, PA. The next county west is Franklin Co., PA. My Blacks were from Franklin Co. before they settled in Beaver Co., PA.
We may be related....I have not researched this area yet but am wanting to purchase a book on the history of Franklin Co., PA that has a lot of Blacks listed in it.
Have you run across the names of Christian Black or Daniel Black in your research? I have a John C.(Christian) Black who is my ggrandfather.
We need to keep in touch. I live in south west Virginia. My husband and son are Civil War reenactors and we travel to Gettysburg often. I will do some research next time and see what I can find. It looks like Gettysburg is the county seat for Adams Co. and with it being so close to MD, the library should have some info there.
I had previously pick up an interesting tidbit on the Black name. In the early records in Franklin Co., the name is sometimes Swartz. Swartz means black in German and when they came to America, they wanted to "Americanize" their names so they were called Blacks. Have you ever heard this?
Will be in touch,
Carol Lindamood
Max Meadows, VA
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara Black
To: Rick @ Carol
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Surname: Agee & Black
Hello Carol,
Thank you for your quick response and information. It was so nice of you to send the census'. As far as where these Blacks came from, I'm still trying to proof that out. An old family story handed down says John R. Black was born in Emmettsburg, MD, but all the census' say PA. So far I haven't been able to find a document to prove either. Any ideas are welcome. Thanks again so much.
Barb Black
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick @ Carol
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:36 PM
To: Barbara Black; INOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INOWEN] Surname: Agee & Black
Hello Barbara,
I do not research these families but can give you the 1850 and 1860 census
info on the Black family.
1850 census Owen Co., IN Jennings twp. Oct. 12, 1850
household #727 729
BLACK John R. 39 M farmer 4,000 Penn.
Hannah 38 F Penn.
Calvin 15 M farmer Penn.
John S. 13 M Ohio
Henry C. 8 M Ind.
Elizabeth S. 2 F Ind.
Susan 2 F Ind.
1860 census Owen Co., IN Jennings twp. page 153, July 26, 1860
P.O. Box Quincy
household # 1071 1062
BLACK Jno. R. 52 M farmer $4700 $1200 Penn.
Hannah 49 F
Penn.
Henry 17 M laborer
Ind.
-twins- Elizabeth C. 11 F
Ind.
Susan M. 11 F
Ind.
#1072 1063
BLACK Jno. S. 22 M farmer $200 Ind.
Miranda 19 F
Ills.
Jas E. 2 M
Ind.
Mary E. 4/12 F
Ind.
#1073 1064
BLACK Calvin 25 M farmer $300 Penn.
Elen 18 F
Ind.
Hannah 1 F
Ind.
Lane E. 3/12 F
Ind.
There are no Agee families listed in 1850 or 1860 in Owen Co.
About the marriage, there is a book at the Owen Co. Public Library that has
listings of marriages. They are listed by surnames. You can contact the
head of the genealogy dept. Laura Wilkerson, lmwilker(a)owenlib.org She can
make you copies of the pages with your surnames, for a charge of the copies
and possibly postage. It will tell you the book number and page that it is
recorded at the courthouse. You can then contact the Clerk's Office at the
courthouse, 812-829-5015, or snail mail - Owen County Courthouse, Clerk's
Office, Spencer, IN 47460. They will mail you a copy of the marriage free
of charge if you know the book and page number. Additional copies of others
are free also. I have gotten some through the mail this way and have
actually been to the courthouse and there was no charge for marriages.
I noticed your Black family is from PA. What part? I have Blacks in my
line from Beaver Co., PA in western PA.
I hope this helps you.
Good luck in your search!!
Carol Lindamood
----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara Black <BIBlack(a)msn.com>
To: <INOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:46 PM
Subject: [INOWEN] Surname: Agee & Black
> Elizabeth Black was born August 23, 1848 in Jennings Township, Owen Co.,
IN, married William S. Agee in Owen Co. on January 6, 1867. Are these
records available and does anyone research this family?
>
> Any help appreciated. Barbara Black
>
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Since I can not find anything on grave of Delana D White b 1847 Clay Co. Ind
and listed as dead by Board of State Charties in May of 1899 (the year his 2
girls were made wards of Owen Co. Ind.) maybe If I find where his father is
buried it will give me a clue. His father was Granville White b 1820 Ky:
mother Eveline Smith b 1826 Ohio. So where do I find a listing for graves?
Any ideas? Thank you for your help.
Vickie