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> Looking for marriage records for each of the following individuals, I don't
> know their spouses or when they were married:
>
> Joseph Marsh (31 years old in 1880)
>
> Eliza C. Marsh (26 years old in 1880)
>
> Arvy (maybe, Arvilla or Arvillia) Marsh (22 years old in 1880)
>
> Emma A. Marsh (19 years old in 1880)
>
> Any assistance will be appreciated.
>
> David A. Otto
>
> palaceatm(a)aol.com
>
>
Continuing to to seek decendants of my great-grandparents:
Samuel BOND: b. abt. 1842 OH, d. May 8, 1915, Coal City. m. Jan. 20, 1866 to
Malona WELLS: b. abt. 1846 OH, d. June 24, 1927, Coal City.
Children: Porter Albert Bond (my grandfather): b. Oct. 12, 1880 IN, d. Dec. 1962 IN. He went to prison for shooting two young boys: Feb. 1916 (I have all the prison records)
m. Laura Ada EVERHART: b. Aug. 30, 1875 IN, d. July 7, 1962 CA
Idele (md. Kenens) BOND:
Courtland Mattson BOND m. Iva NEEDY July 31, 1908 IN Children: Florence: b. abt. 1910
Gwendolyn: b. abt. 1911
Joyce: b. abt.1914
Russell: b. abt. 1917
Grant BOND m. Emma HALL/WALL Sept. 4, 1890
Bertha (md. Polkey)BOND: d. abt. August, 30, 1955, Cook Co. IL
I have gotten most of my information from Owen Co. census and Marriage and death records from Owen Co. Would like to hear from anyone that may be connected to this line or anyone that may have information.
Thank you. Sandra Bernhardt
OR
Bruce, I remember seeing those names, but not in our family. Was it on the
INOWEN list? nancy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce W Davis" <bdavis66(a)juno.com>
To: <nrscott(a)prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:43 AM
> Nancy
>
> Did I get the names of Jefferson & Nancy Scott from you??
You meant Jefferson & Charity?
>They don't
> seem to connect with my scott files!!! Here is what I got from the SS
> Death index!! but appears to have nothing to do with Freedom
>
> Descendants of Jefferson Scott
> Generation No. 1
> 1. JEFFERSON SCOTT was born December 12, 1891 in TN, and died November
> 1980 in Jefferson City, Tennessee. He married CHARITY ??. She was born
> December 25, 1890 in TN, and died May 1973 in Nashville, Tennessee.
> Notes for JEFFERSON SCOTT:
> [Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2 M-Z, Ed. 6, Social Security Death
> Index: U.S., Date of Import: Mar 22, 2002, Internal Ref.
> #1.112.6.72925.80]
> Individual: Scott, Jeff; Social Security #: 412-30-8293; Issued in:
> Tennessee
> Birth date: Dec 12, 1891; Death date: Nov 1980; Residence code: Tennessee
> ZIP Code of last known residence: 37760
> Primary location associated with this ZIP Code: Jefferson City,
> Tennessee
> ZIP Code of address where death benefit payment was sent: 37760
> Primary location associated with this ZIP Code: Jefferson City,
> Tennessee
> More About JEFFERSON SCOTT:
> Burial: Owen Co. IN?
> Notes for CHARITY ??:
> [Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2 M-Z, Ed. 6, Social Security Death
> Index: U.S., Date of Import: Mar 22, 2002, Internal Ref.
> #1.112.6.72753.43]
> Individual: Scott, Charity; Social Security #: 415-20-6346; Issued in:
> Tennessee
> Birth date: Dec 25, 1890; Death date: May 1973; Residence code: Tennessee
> ZIP Code of last known residence: 37206
> Primary location associated with this ZIP Code: Nashville, Tennessee
>
> Bruce & Norma Davis bdavis66(a)juno.com
> Columbus OH 43214-2947 Phone (614)451-3320
> Web site <
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/d/a/v/Bruce-W-Davis/ >
Listmembers:
I have some new news that is both good and bad-
The good is that after waiting some time I have finally gotten our Sweet Owen
website onto a rootsweb server!
It is:
FREE!!
It has
UNLIMITED!! WEBSPACE
We seem to have
FASTER/BETTER CONNECTION SPEEDS
BAD NEWS:
It will take me a little while to transfer it all over there. Every miniscule
item needs to be re entered.
Please continue to use the old site at angelfire until this is complete, I
will post the new url to the list when it is ready.
The only glitch is and it is a small one that I am willing to deal with:
due to "sticky/stupid fingers" I was attempting to type rowen (as in our
owen) and it came out rowan, this was a submission and CANNOT be changed,
however, that is in the url and will not have any effect on our pages.
I am just thrilled to have a site with UNLIMITED space as with all the photos
we were filling up the other one quickly, no we have no problems.
Wishing you ancestral searching success,
Debbie Jennings
Please check websites below:
Sweet Owen County IN
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A>
Kentuckiana Home
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/ </A>
Seeking obituary or death notice mention of Ida MORRIS, wife of Carrie A.
MORRIS who died August 2, 1900 Clay Twp., Owen Co., IN.
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I'm trying to find the burial place for :
Fletcher SCOTT b. ca1881 Dec d. 8 Aug 1882 .......Freedom, Franklin Twp.,
Owen Co.IN.
If any of you other SCOTT researchers have come across this person, I would
appreciate the info on him. Or anyone else who may have access to
cemeteries near Freedom. Most of my Scott's were buried at Hicks and Farmers
Station, but there is NO record of him buried in either of those two
cemeteries. Most likely is buried somewhere with no headstone.
The family was affiliated with the Freedom Baptist Church, does anyone know
if there are exsisting church records for that old Church , or a cemetery by
that old Church?
Thanks,
N.J.Skinner White
in MI
vwhite0901(a)aol.com
As soon as I sent this note, I received some info from Norma Ooley Herman
about a probate that wasn't settled till after the death of the widow about
four years later.
So you can't tell.
nancy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy R. Scott" <nrscott(a)prairienet.org>
To: <INOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:40 AM
Subject: Fw: [INOWEN] probate time
> I don't think there is a standard length of time. You might guess it
would
> be within a year. Sometimes it took longer to get it all settled and it
> would straddle the next year.
> nancy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Debbjennings(a)aol.com>
> To: <INOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:53 AM
> Subject: [INOWEN] probate time
>
>
> > does anyone have any idea of the "standard" time between a death and a
> will
> > being probated?
> >
> > Wishing you ancestral searching success,
> > Debbie Jennings
> > Please check websites below:
> > Sweet Owen County IN
> > <A
>
HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/
> sweetowen/</A>
> > Franklin CountyVermont Genweb
> > <A
HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty
> VT </A>
> > Kentuckiana Home
> > <A
>
HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.co
> m/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>
> >
> >
> > ==== INOWEN Mailing List ====
> > Welcome to the INOWEN mail list -
> > new subscribers should check the mail list archives at:
> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=inowen
> > for rules and regulations, and should familiarize
> > themselves how this mail list works, and we all
> > benefit.Please visit our companion website: Sweet Owen and Surrounding
> Areas at
> > http://angelfire.lycos.com/in4/sweetowen
> > (you may need to cut and paste this the first time)
>
>
> ==== INOWEN Mailing List ====
> Welcome to the INOWEN mail list -
> new subscribers should check the mail list archives at:
> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=inowen
> for rules and regulations, and should familiarize
> themselves how this mail list works, and we all
> benefit.Please visit our companion website: Sweet Owen and Surrounding
Areas at
> http://angelfire.lycos.com/in4/sweetowen
> (you may need to cut and paste this the first time)
Listmembers,
I really must apologize for overlooking a couple of particular groups of
persons when I created the Sweet Owen website.
Although the following question might not seem proper to ask, I feel in order
to service all the researchers I must find the answer. Please respond to me
privately if it pertains to you.
Are there any researchers of the counties covered on the Sweet Owen Site
researching either the African American lines or the Native American lines?
In all fairness to all researchers I feel that these areas should be covered
if they can be of use to anyone out there.
I should have thought of these earlier on....
Wishing you ancestral searching success,
Debbie Jennings
Please check websites below:
Sweet Owen County IN
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A>
Kentuckiana Home
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/ </A>
The following came from another list, but I found it so very true that I felt
someone on our list might get a laugh from it.
THE WORM'S EYE VIEW: EASY DUZ IT
by Beth Maltbie Uyehara BUYE(a)aol.com
Hi. My name is Beth M. U., and I'm a geneaholic. My story's not
a pretty one. I am sharing it here in the hope that it may help
others avoid my pitiful fate. If you, too, are addicted to
genealogy, I want you to know that you are not alone. There
are thousands of us worldwide struggling in the daily battle
against this cunning, baffling and powerful addiction.
There was something "different" about me from the get-go.
Looking back, the signs were there for all to see. Even as a
child, when relatives threw old Daguerreotypes in the trash, I
would fish around among the coffee grounds and egg shells and
pull them out. When old letters or diaries were discovered in
musty trunks, I stayed up all night reading them. Obits, report
cards, discharge papers, photos of unknown people: I hoarded
them all. I didn't care what kind of document it was, or who it
concerned -- if it was remotely connected to "family," I had to
have it.
I'm making no excuses. I had a good upbringing. Genealogy
certainly doesn't run in my family -- I come from a long line
of people who could take their ancestors or leave them alone.
Yes, there were rumors of an aunt on my father's side who "did
a little research on weekends," but she covered her tracks well,
and I have never been able to prove for certain that she was a
geneaholic. Aside from that one suspect, my relatives were all
what we call "social genealogists." For them, a colorful
forebear or two were good for party conversations, to be
chuckled over at family gatherings, and that was it.
Not me. Right from the beginning, I was out of control. I could
never stop with just one or two ancestors. Every ancestor I
found triggered an insatiable craving in me for two more, and
four more after that, and eight more after that. I could not
stop once I got started. Eventually, genealogy took over my
life. Bouts of compulsive research would leave me babbling
incoherently, slumped exhausted, sometimes barely conscious, at
a microfilm reader in some darkened room, surrounded by other
addicts satisfying their own shameful cravings for genealogical
kicks. Many are the times I've been thrown out of a library at
closing time, kicking and screaming, begging for just five
minutes more, just "one more ancestor for the road." It was
humiliating.
As the years went by, things went from bad to worse. It was an
endless downward spiral. I found myself sneaking from library
to library in distant parts of town, even in other cities and
states, searching for the ultimate high -- that mysterious
immigrant ancestor, whose identity would make everything fall
into place.
I hit bottom one hot August day in a cemetery in a far-off
state. How I got there doesn't matter. Let's just say that
after much research, I had located the grave of an ancestor
who -- according to family legend -- had died in some kind of
accident. As I stared at the weathered, old tombstone, wondering
how I could find out how he had died, the thought occurred to
me: "I could dig him up and see."
Immediately, I recoiled, aghast.
"Eeeeeuuuuuuu," I cried, "yuk! That's gross."
That's when I knew I needed help. Since that moment of clarity,
I've joined numerous genealogy support groups where we offer
each other strength and hope, along with research tips and
potluck dinners. And I have finally admitted, to myself and to
other human beings, that I am powerless over genealogy and my
research has become unmanageable.
It may be too late for me. But, science has found that young
family historians -- those who are, as yet, only potential
geneaholics -- can sometimes stop in time. Answer these
questions to see if you are in the early stages of addiction.
* Home: Has genealogical paperwork taken over any room in
your house?
* Friends: Is genealogy interfering with your social life?
Do people edge away from you at parties when you burst into
tears over the 1890 U. S. census?
* Family: Do your relatives' eyes glaze over when you explain
your latest research? Do you find dead people more fun than live
ones?
* Work: Is genealogy interfering with your job? How many hours
of each workday do you spend on the Internet, or checking your
RootsWeb e-mails?
* Marriage: Has your spouse ever asked you, "Aren't you done
yet? How far back are you planning to go?"
* Health: Are you starting to show the physical and mental
signs of geneaholic deterioration, such as red-rimmed eyes, a
loss of interest in current events, a shortened attention span
for non-ancestral topics, excessive viewing of the History
Channel?
If you answered yes to even one of these questions, you are on
the road to genealogical addiction. You must not research even
one more ancestor! You must stop NOW, before it's too late! When
you feel an overwhelming urge to research, repeat the following
until the urge goes away: "My mother found me in a cabbage
patch. My mother found me in a cabbage patch. My mother found
me in a cabbage patch." Good luck and God help you.
Wishing you ancestral searching success,
Debbie Jennings
Please check websites below:
Sweet Owen County IN
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A>
Kentuckiana Home
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/ </A>
I don't think there is a standard length of time. You might guess it would
be within a year. Sometimes it took longer to get it all settled and it
would straddle the next year.
nancy
----- Original Message -----
From: <Debbjennings(a)aol.com>
To: <INOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:53 AM
Subject: [INOWEN] probate time
> does anyone have any idea of the "standard" time between a death and a
will
> being probated?
>
> Wishing you ancestral searching success,
> Debbie Jennings
> Please check websites below:
> Sweet Owen County IN
> <A
HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/
sweetowen/</A>
> Franklin CountyVermont Genweb
> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty
VT </A>
> Kentuckiana Home
> <A
HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.co
m/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>
>
>
> ==== INOWEN Mailing List ====
> Welcome to the INOWEN mail list -
> new subscribers should check the mail list archives at:
> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=inowen
> for rules and regulations, and should familiarize
> themselves how this mail list works, and we all
> benefit.Please visit our companion website: Sweet Owen and Surrounding
Areas at
> http://angelfire.lycos.com/in4/sweetowen
> (you may need to cut and paste this the first time)
Here's still a puzzle. Perhaps you have seen this man in your travels amonst the censuses.
He is a nephew of our Pleasant W. SCOTT who married Catherine HOn.
John S. SCOTT, son of John T. M. SCOTT & Mary ABRELL, born 1856-1857. Perhaps his wife's name was Laura.
1860 census with parents in Owen Co. IN, Franklin Twp. age 3.
1870 census with parents in Illinois, Christian County, Pana Township, age 13.
Photograph of Aunt Laura taken in Springfield, MO.
Obituary of his brother, M. DeLafayette Scott, says that at that time, 1926, John S. Scott, of Kansas City, was visiting in Newberry, IN, but was too sick to attend the funeral.
Where was John S. Scott in 1880? Several single men of that name are in Missouri & Kansas working in lumber or building railroads.
When & where was he married? Did he really marry Laura?
If not, who is Aunt Laura?
Are any of John's descendants out there doing genealogy?
John T. M. Scott, father of John S. & M. DeLafayette, was the son of Samuel & Milly (FOSTER) SCOTT of Owen County, IN.
Grateful for any clues.
Nancy Scott
Nancy and list
It never ceases to amaze me at how many times this particular subject is
covered on mailing lists, I for one always assumed it to be a "given" that NO
INFO ON LIVING PERSONS SHOULD BE ON THE INTERNET.
To me this is the same as saying, if you are blind and walk with a seeing eye
dog, YOU SHOULDN'T DRIVE A CAR.
Nobody should need to say these things.
It is my opinion that NO info on any living person should go on the internet
with the exception of their name.
I myself use a really nice site called Gencircles that allows for the
following options:
1. Blocking of any notes on everyone so only basic data is allowed
(in this manner only someone really interested is going to want anything
further and can contact you later)
2. Blocking notes on only the living
Both of these options are in addition to an automatic blocking by them of any
living persons in your GEDCOM
This allows other researchers access to your data, but not the living ones,
without your having to privatize the GEDCOM yourself.
I use as a personal rule of thumb a judgment on privatizing depending on just
who I am corresponding with.
I have several persons whom I converse with regularly and have no problem
with sending them anything as I trust their judgment and good sense not to
publish on the internet.
However, no matter who you are dealing with, I have found recently that some
persons just don't make a connection between that data being on the internet
and the problems it can cause.
Your FTM program should have the ability to privatize your GEDCOM. Look in
your instruction book, if not I can let you know how I do it with the
FamilyTreeMaker brand.
Then again there is the thought that some of these "very distant" cousins
living across the continent that you will only exchange briefly with, really
have no reason to know the names even of the children that were born last
week/month.
Many, many times this info is sent to me and I just disregard it as it
normally goes so far outside of my lineage that it doesn't matter.
And I am definitely NOT one of those that only follows my DIRECT lineage, I
go into the siblings as well.
In short, if you really MUST place a GEDCOM on the internet I suggest the
Gencircle method as it eliminates you having to privatize it yourself, you
only make the choice of just who to display your notes section on. Also as a
bonus to this, it is cross referenced with the GENDEX system and your names
are also listed there. When you list with GENDEX alone there is a fee to do
this, going through GENCIRCLES there is no fee.
You also have the option of cross referencing with GENEANET another type of
program similar to GENDEX, but a broader coverage, (I think in Europe).
The GENCIRCLES program will also go through your GEDCOM and let you know if
there are any matches with your entries within these programs allowing you to
contact those researchers.
When anyone sends me data for the Sweet Owen site I not only encourage
privatizing I won't place it on the page if it isn't.
I also have a cutoff on obituaries-- I won't place any recent ones (within a
couple of years) on the site, UNLESS submitted by the immediate family. This
is just a sensitivity issue for me.
Now on photos, I think if they are submitted of family members that are still
living then it is ok as long as the description is limited to : "this is Bob
Smith, my uncle" or something to that effect, no dates. Or old
school/military photos are fine.
As for removing any that are already on the various websites:
1. They should never have been placed there.
2. Any competent webmaster who is also a researcher should be more then happy
to remove the whole item on request.
This issue is one of the reason that I requested that persons only send me
Gen Reports (word documents) for the Family Reports instead of GEDCOM's.
First they take less space and also allow you to cut them off prior to any
living persons or you can create them in your documents section and privatize
them before sending to me.
I hope I have answered some questions.
Wishing you ancestral searching success,
Debbie Jennings
Please check websites below:
Sweet Owen County IN
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/">http://www.angelfire.com/in4/sweetowen/</A>
Franklin CountyVermont Genweb
<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~vtfrankl/Franklin.html">Franklincounty VT </A>
Kentuckiana Home
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/">http://www.angelfire.com/ky3/kentuckianahome/</A>
DOCUMENT: Coffey Bible Records
SOURCE: Monroe County (IN) Historical Society, Bible Records, Bible
engraved with the names Alfred and Martha J. Coffey (see File Cabinet 1,
Drawer 3).
DEATHS
Martha Jane Coffey died May 29, 1884
Alfred Coffey died June 11, 1885
Margaret A. Eller died May 21, 1893
Hattie A. Brown (difficult to read) died August 1, 1914
McKinney Hickam died July 24, 1921
Laura E. Wood died December 31, 1926
Mary Alice Hickam died July 5, 1935
BIRTHS
Martha Jane Coffey was born January 26, 1827
Alfred Coffey was born May 18, 1809
Schuyler Colfax Coffey was born April 7, 1868 (difficult to read)
Willie T. Smith was born May 1, 1858
Harriet A. Smith was born March 13, 1850
Maggie A. Smith was born September (illegible), 1852
Mary A. Smith was born December 14 (difficult to read), 185?
Laura E. Smith was born August 21, 1847
Orville Hickam was born January 22, 188?
M. C. Hickam was born Sept 23, 1854
NOTE: Several obits were attached to this bible record. As nearly as I
can remember, they were undated, no source noted, but appeared to be 1925
or after and mostly seemed to be people of Owen County connections.
Thank you for the information on Marion and Brit Brasket
Interesting that some use Brasket other Braskett. I did have Marion in
Company G, 115th Indiana. He joined for duty July 12, 1863, was accidently
wounded in the heel October 14, 1863 and was in the hospital at Knoxville,
Tenn. from then through December.1863. I think he mustered out July 25, 1864.
Does anyone know what county in TN Catherine Hancock and her family was
from???? I wonder if her mother died in IN or TN????
On a hand written page from Probate book of Owen county it lists:
Henry Hancock died Sept. 25, 1849
Lists children William, Catharine, Minerva, Harden, Marion, Mary, Owen,
Albert, Arington, Charlotte. Lists Albert as being guardian of the children.
Does anyone know who this family is??? William Hancock is listed as
Catharine's father on the 1880 Madison county census age 56.Could Henry be
the brother of William Hancock, father of Catherine????
There is a Benjamin Braskit listed on the 1830 census of Champagne county
Ohio. Could be the father of Brit???