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This information is helpful to me, and something I did not know before. I
am searching for Tarton Smith in Orange who died about 1830, and was married to
Rebecca Collins. I know her mother was Eliz. and she later married a
Cromer. I have Quakers in my Luddingtons in Ohio and too found they moved in
groups. I have always wondered how they end up in the same-named countries in each
state. Happens over and over again. I know this migration route has shown
up in other family lines I am researching, but this was new about Orange Co,
Indiana. Thanks for the help. Dottie in St. Louis
Mary Alice:
Not to butt in here, but I am reading Jimmy Carter's novel of the
Revolution <The Hornet's Nest>. It is set in the mid 1700's in the
south. The early setting is in Orange County, NC and revolves around
just this topic: Why did the colonists decide to pack up and move? Some
to IN, some to GA. Your local library may have a copy. While the book is
fiction, I believe Mr. Carter is faithful to the history.
(I'm no literary critic, but let's just say it is good he has a hefty
pension.)
Myron E. Williams
Crossville, TN
MaryAlice wrote:
> Eleanor,
>
> This is one of the most interesting accounts I have seen since
> becoming interesting in Orange County history. Thank you for bringing
> it to my attention.
>
> It raises a number of questions, not the least of which is the
> reference to Cox's Woods, since my ancestors were Cox. There are Cox
> researchers who have not been able to trace the ancestry beyond the
> late 1700's so I don't really aspire to that.
>
> However, I find it very interesting to speculate on what prompted a
> man (I'm sure) to come home and say, "Honey, pack everything up; we're
> going to walk to Orange County, IN." I mean, moving across town in a
> truck is traumatic enough!
>
> Rather than ask you specific questions, like how did they come by the
> Indiana land to begin with, can you or any other Orange County
> descendant recommend any additional resources for this kind of history?
>
> Again, thank you so much for sharing this little slice of history.
>
> Mary Alice Parks
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> I saw you inquiry about the migration of the 1820's families to Orange
> Co, IN, on INORANGE.
>
> The migration began earlier than 1820s. Jonathon Lindley first saw the
> land in southern Indiana in 1808 when he and Jesse Towell made a trip
> west. They returned with "glowing accounts of the rich land and heavy
> forests." Jonathan later brought some of his Quaker relatives and
> friends to the area in April 1811 when it was still the Indiana
> Territory. Many families were looking for fresh starts and better
> farmland and a place where slavery wasn't practiced, and when the
> territory opened up and was declared safe from Indians (unlike Ohio),
> this opened the floodgates for Quakers and others to head west.
> Jonathan led several treks west with these families.
> Jonathan founded the town of Paoli (supposedly named for the Pasquale
> Paoli Ashe, the son of the governor of North Carolina, but I'm not
> sure this is true as there is a town by the name of Paoli in Chester
> Co, where many of the Lindleys were from),. He also founded Lick Creek
> Monthly Meeting near Paoli, Orange Co, IN and served in the Indiana
> Legislature.
> Read more at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/in/county/orange/jlindley.htm
>
> Eleanor Rayl
> A Lindley descendant
>
>
>
>
>
Eleanor,
This is one of the most interesting accounts I have seen since becoming
interesting in Orange County history. Thank you for bringing it to my
attention.
It raises a number of questions, not the least of which is the reference
to Cox's Woods, since my ancestors were Cox. There are Cox researchers
who have not been able to trace the ancestry beyond the late 1700's so I
don't really aspire to that.
However, I find it very interesting to speculate on what prompted a man
(I'm sure) to come home and say, "Honey, pack everything up; we're going
to walk to Orange County, IN." I mean, moving across town in a truck is
traumatic enough!
Rather than ask you specific questions, like how did they come by the
Indiana land to begin with, can you or any other Orange County
descendant recommend any additional resources for this kind of history?
Again, thank you so much for sharing this little slice of history.
Mary Alice Parks
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I saw you inquiry about the migration of the 1820's families to Orange Co,
IN, on INORANGE.
The migration began earlier than 1820s. Jonathon Lindley first saw the land
in southern Indiana in 1808 when he and Jesse Towell made a trip west. They
returned with "glowing accounts of the rich land and heavy forests." Jonathan
later brought some of his Quaker relatives and friends to the area in April 1811
when it was still the Indiana Territory. Many families were looking for fresh
starts and better farmland and a place where slavery wasn't practiced, and
when the territory opened up and was declared safe from Indians (unlike Ohio),
this opened the floodgates for Quakers and others to head west. Jonathan led
several treks west with these families.
Jonathan founded the town of Paoli (supposedly named for the Pasquale Paoli
Ashe, the son of the governor of North Carolina, but I'm not sure this is true
as there is a town by the name of Paoli in Chester Co, where many of the
Lindleys were from),. He also founded Lick Creek Monthly Meeting near Paoli, Orange
Co, IN and served in the Indiana Legislature.
Read more at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/in/county/orange/jlindley.htm
Eleanor Rayl
A Lindley descendant
HI list
While an individual may have scouted out an area in advance, looking at
Quaker records for these area's we find that many families moved
together, to help each other, and to be safer from the indians, along
the way. They moved up from the Cumberland Gap to cross the river at
Cinncinati and then apparently along the French Lick trace, reported to
be wide enough for 8 Oxen teams side by side along that way. So travel
was a family event, most times these families moving were related by
marriage. The Quakers were anti slavery and started moving as early as
1800 first to Ohio and eastern Indiana, then after 1807 to Washington
Co, and on to Orange Co, and up to Morgan Co, and Parke Co, on to
Vermillion Co. It's only as you trace all this migration that you see
you begin to see how these families constantly moved on to new area's,
and new land as area's became crowded. Why some families lived almost
within an acre to each other, HA. Anyway that was the attraction to move
on out of Slavery states, so even with KY looking like nice farm land it
was Anti Slavery that broght then on to Indiana. Some indeed went to
Tenn first, but only for a generation, and many then also came on north
where some of the relatives had moved earlier. I see this over and over
as I have done many family lines. So we have the Lindleys, Truebloods,
Elliots, Quackenbush, etc who migrated from Orange Co, NC to Orange Co,
IN. I see about 20 of the early settlers were in some way related to
each other by marriages, and religion. Until you get in to studying
these Quaker family lines it may not be apparent to all of you. While
most of my family migrated to Union Co, IN on to Wayne Co, IN my great
great grandfather Joseph Charles moved to Orange Co, IN first then up to
Henry Co, IN, so I've followed these lines in detail. The Nicholson's,
Charles's, Albertson's, and many of those collateral lines started in
Perquimans Co, NC about 1700 on to Indiana after 1800. The Giffords came
from Guilford Co, so as I've put together such a large file on all of
these lines I see a larger picture of this migration that just someone
who only tries to trace just their own ancestor line.
Don Cordell
Researching CAMPBELL, Burton, Sears
Diana Dial Reynolds, great-granddaughter of Joseph David Campbell of Orleans, Indiana
Diana Dial Reynolds
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In a day when access to many vital records is being legislated away, let's
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Researching in Orange County, IN and various counties in NC & PA:
MOULDER/MOHLER/MOHLAR/MOLER
MARIS
LINDLEY
ANDREW
HADLEY
HOLLADAY/HOLADAY/HOLIDAY
FARLOW
BRAXTON/BRAXTAN
and any related families
Eleanor Rayl
Joseph Horned writes:
<< Seeking info on Josiah Harned b. 1817 Orange Co., who married Judeth
French.
Also seeking info on Tandy French who married Lydia Stroud living in Orange
Co., ca. 1820. Thanks.
Joseph >>
Joseph,
I have a lot on the Harned/Horned/Harnett family of Pennsylvania and Indiana.
Josiah was the son of William Harned b. abt 1775 PA and Margaret Thomas b.
1783 Loudoun Co., VA. William and Margaret were married in 1807 Loudoun Co, VA.
William's parents wer Josiah Harned (b. abt 1743 Woodbridge, Middlesex Co, NJ,
d. 1797 VA) and Jane Harmer, who were married 24 Jan 1768 in Philadelphia,
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I have the Harned/Harnett line back to the late
1500s in Kent, England, if you are interested.
Josiah married first Judith French (19 Oct 1826 KY - 8 Nov 1867 Lawrence Co
AR). The had children:
1. Mary Jane Harned b. 25 Sep 1844
2. Lydia M. Harned b. 26 Feb 1848
3. Thomas J. Harned b. 9 Jun 1850
4. William Harned b. 6 Sept 1853
5. Tandy C. Harned b. 26 Jul 1858
6. Margaret Malissa Harned b. 2 May 1860
7. Josiah Harned b. 2 Jan 1867
Josiah's second wife was Susan Thomas, with whom he had two children, Charles
Houston Horned and Rosa Horned.
I have no info on Tandy French and Lydia Stroud other than their marriage of
1821 in Orange Co, IN, and that they were the parents of Judith French.
Josiah's brother, Charles Fitzgerald Harned, had a daughter, Margaret Hannah
"Hannah", who married William Moulder. The Moulders of PA, NC and IN are part
of my family.
Eleanor Rayl
I have some photos from my great-aunt, Elta Boss Lindley. I believe that some of the photos are of her in-laws and their families. Her Husband was Frank Hudelson Lindley. He was the son of Clinton Lindley and Lillie Hudelson. He had a sister Addie who married Sidney Smythe. I would be grateful if anyone could identify the photos. I can scan them and email them or put them on the internet to be viewed.
Is anyone familiar with this family?
Kay Armstrong
Researching: Armstrong, Boss, Breeden, Jack, Moore, Raper, Wilson and Wininger
Springs Valley Herald 12-29-2004
4-12-1922---12-21-2004
Funeral Services will be held at 10:30 AM Wednesday at T. L. Pinnick
Mortuary for Marvin P.. Beatty, 82, Nashville, TN, formerly of Chicago, IL.
and French Lick, Indiana, who died 12-21 at Alive Hospice in Nashville, TN.
Born in French Lick on April 12, 1922, he was the son of Walter G. and
Mayme Decker Beatty, who both precede him in death. He married Billie
Blackford on April 27. 1943, and she preceded him in death on October 7,
2003
Survivors include three sons, James Beatty of Baton Rouge. LA., Gregory
Beatty of Jacksonville, FL., and Michael Beatty of Homewood, IL., one
daughter, Mary Beatty of Nashville, TN.; 2 brothers, Donald Beatty of
Indianapolis, Richard Walls of Fort Wayne, IN. and 6 grandchildren.
Visitation at the Mortuary will be from 8 A.M. until the time of service on
Wednesday.
Dr. O.W. Willis will officiate the service, with burial in Ames Chapel
Cemetery. Military graveside rites will be accorded.
I have some replies to my Roll Call but have to go to San Francisco in
the morning and will be back to my emails I hope on Monday.
Don Cordell
Lancaster, CA
Don, do you have any generalized history of the migration of the 1820's families? I've always wondered how they happened to pick Orange County Indiana.
Also, do you have anything on Ben Hudelson who married Jane Dillin from Petersburg (1940's)?
MaryAlice Parks
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Cordell <huddlstn(a)antelecom.net>
Sent: Jan 6, 2005 2:39 AM
To: INORANGE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [INORANGE] Rollcall
All families that connect in anyway to the Hudelson's, and all Quaker
lines in Orange Co, most families from Paoli north, west and in the NW
quadrant. Quakenbush, Lindley, Truebloods, Nicholson's, Charles,
Gifford, Bledsoe, Hobson, Shirley, McCart, Trinkle, Ham, Springer,
Dayhuff, Bellinger, McVey, Rhodes, Simpson, Farrell, Brown, Magner,
Elrod, Wilson, Faucett, Hammersley Pipher, Osborne, Malott, Stanfield,
Moorman, Abel, Allegre. Batchelor, Flick, Lomax, Beatty, Toliver,
Wininger, Halbert, Chatham, Killion, Cominger, etc., and just about
anyone connected to any of these families. That includes a lot of those
families that arrived to settle Orange Co, IN from Orange Co, NC in the
1820's. I've compiled a lot of descendants from the WPA records and a
lot from the 17 volume DAR Orange Co, records on these families.
That should just about cover it for now.
Don Cordell
Don,
My Edward and Elizabeth Riley came to Orange Co., IN from Orange Co., NC sometime around 1814 or so... They had 12 children who married into the Wilson, Hogg/Hodges, Rhodes, Hart, Pitman, Moad, and Brooks families among others. Trinkle was also a name connected to the Rileys.
Do you have any idea why this mass migration took place from Orange Co., NC to Orange Co., IN?
Sharon Tingley
In a message dated 1/6/2005 2:39:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, Don Cordell <huddlstn(a)antelecom.net> writes:
>All families that connect in anyway to the Hudelson's, and all Quaker lines in Orange Co, most families from Paoli north, west and in the NW quadrant. Quakenbush, Lindley, Truebloods, Nicholson's, Charles, Gifford, Bledsoe, Hobson, Shirley, McCart, Trinkle, Ham, Springer, Dayhuff, Bellinger, McVey, Rhodes, Simpson, Farrell, Brown, Magner, Elrod, Wilson, Faucett, Hammersley Pipher, Osborne, Malott, Stanfield,
Moorman, Abel, Allegre. Batchelor, Flick, Lomax, Beatty, Toliver, Wininger, Halbert, Chatham, Killion, Cominger, etc., and just about anyone connected to any of these families. That includes a lot of those families that arrived to settle Orange Co, IN from Orange Co, NC in the 1820's. I've compiled a lot of descendants from the WPA records and a lot from the 17 volume DAR Orange Co, records on these families. That should just about cover it for now.
Don Cordell
>
All families that connect in anyway to the Hudelson's, and all Quaker
lines in Orange Co, most families from Paoli north, west and in the NW
quadrant. Quakenbush, Lindley, Truebloods, Nicholson's, Charles,
Gifford, Bledsoe, Hobson, Shirley, McCart, Trinkle, Ham, Springer,
Dayhuff, Bellinger, McVey, Rhodes, Simpson, Farrell, Brown, Magner,
Elrod, Wilson, Faucett, Hammersley Pipher, Osborne, Malott, Stanfield,
Moorman, Abel, Allegre. Batchelor, Flick, Lomax, Beatty, Toliver,
Wininger, Halbert, Chatham, Killion, Cominger, etc., and just about
anyone connected to any of these families. That includes a lot of those
families that arrived to settle Orange Co, IN from Orange Co, NC in the
1820's. I've compiled a lot of descendants from the WPA records and a
lot from the 17 volume DAR Orange Co, records on these families.
That should just about cover it for now.
Don Cordell
I am reaching Moore and Damewood.
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Joyce, I would also like a copy of Marvins Obit , as I to was helped by him through his Baker line. Diana at lcleatherglas(a)msn.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce Underwood
To: INORANGE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [INORANGE] Marvin Beatty
There was quite a write up in the Springs Valley Herald about Marvin. I can
send you a copy if you want it. He also helped me lots of times when I had
questions. He will be missed. Joyce
>
> I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I've been offline for
> awhile. Marvin Beatty passed away Dec. 21, 2004. He was very active in
> genealogy research, and was a great help to me in my queries.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Vonda Lee Heverly
>
>
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Orange County, Indiana Genealogy Group
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Welcome! This is the former Rootsweb list, INORANGE. We'll be discussing the history and genealogy of Orange County, Indiana and its surrounding region of southern Indiana near the panhandle.