The only Cane Creek MM of Susannah Peacock (formerly Williams) indicate she was disowned
for marrying out of unity. So it appears that John Peacock, at least initially, was not a
quaker. This record was recorded in 1817, around the year I believe they were married from
Susannah's guardianship records. I have corroborating evidence that it was John she
married from Susannah's guardianship records and deed records in Chatham County, North
Carolina. She was orphaned in 1811 at the age of 13.
The stories also say that John helped to start the first quaker church near Monrovia and
helped with Monrovia's initial settlement. The West Union records lost are the first
few years of the men's minutes.
The BLM records show John getting a land patent very near Monrovia in 1827.
Alfred's son John lived with John P Lamb's daughter's family and a "few
doors down" from John P Lamb after Alfred's death.
Ryan
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 12:45:42 +0000
From: s.m.mills(a)comcast.net
To: inmorgan(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Morgan Co IN] Help with Indiana source book reference
Alfred is more likely than not John's relative due to their living close together.
The kidnapping story may or may not be true. I did not realize the West Union MM records
were lost.
If you think you may have missed anything in Quaker records, you might join the Quaker
list and/or consult Thomas Hamm at Earlham.
If you haven't looked at land entries, the ISA can help you there also, to find when
John bought land anywhere in southern Indiana. I was going to suggest the Bureau of Land
Management GLO records website, but Indiana records are not currently shown among the
Eastern states.
If you haven't looked for probates, you should be able to find various entries in the
order books, including administrator's bond, inventories, partial reports, and final
reports showing heirs.
That might be either on microfilm in Morgan County or at the State Archives. The Morgan
County Public Library does some limited research via contact from their website, or I can
give you the name of a researcher in Morgan County.
I wouldn't give extreme weight to someone's report of where they were born. They
were too young to be reliable witnesses. If Susannah came from Cane Creek as a single
young woman, her children were not born in NC.
Sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Cramer" <cramerryan(a)hotmail.com>
To: inmorgan(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:06:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Morgan Co IN] Help with Indiana source book reference
I have found stories indicating that Alfred is his relative. Unfortunately, there are
some discrepancies in the stories, so I'm not sure how correct the stories are. The
story goes that John Lamb kidnapped his half-brother Alfred and ran away to morgan county
from North Carolina when John was 16 and Alfred was 5. I have searched all of the
encyclopedias of quaker genealogy and have found only one item that kind of refers to
john. That is in 1817, John's wife susannah Peacock (formerly Williams) at Cane creek
MM in North Carolina. Unfortunately, early West Union MM records have been lost. I think
that if we found John anywhere in the quaker records, it would be in those lost records.
If anyone is interested in the story, it's here.
Unfortunately, I know John Peacock Lamb's kids were listed as being born in North
Carolina, so either he went back there after kidnapping Alfred, or the story is
inaccurate. The story mentions that John never married, which is incorrect. He married
Susannah Williams, and they are both buried in West Union Cemetery. I do know that John
Peacock Lamb lived extremely near Alfred's family. One account indicates that he took
care of Alfred's widow and family after Alfred's death.
If anyone is interested, look up "kidnapping Alfred Lamb" published by the
Guilford genealogical society in their quarterly publication. But as of this moment, I
believe the story to have some inaccuracies in it.
This story is one of the reasons I want to find this court record. I have a hunch that it
may help to clear some things up.
Ryan
> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 01:12:38 +0000
> From: s.m.mills(a)comcast.net
> To: inmorgan(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [Morgan Co IN] Help with Indiana source book reference
>
> Ryan,
> I just went to Ancestry and looked at your ancestor on the 1840 census. He's
living among Quakers or descendants of Quakers. I can't tell if it's West Union
(Monrovia) or one of the Mooresville area Friends groups. I think you might benefit from
checking Quaker records, as I think anything regarding a name change might show up in the
Minute Books. Is Alfred Lamb his relative?
> Sharon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Cramer" <cramerryan(a)hotmail.com>
> To: inmorgan(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:06:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Morgan Co IN] Help with Indiana source book reference
>
> Thank you very much Sharon. This is very useful information. I will check with the
Indiana a State Archives first. It sounds like Morgan county may not have the information
if the state legislature handled this matter. But I will certainly check the county deed
records if I can't find anything through the early legislative sessions.
>
> Ryan
>
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 03:07:57 +0000
> > From: s.m.mills(a)comcast.net
> > To: inmorgan(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [Morgan Co IN] Help with Indiana source book reference
> >
> > I don't have your complete answer, but I think I have a start for you.
Before courts of common pleas were set up, there were a couple of ways citizens could take
care of legal business. Maybe more. One was to ask the township JP to write something up
and take it to the Court House. Another was to have a non-deed published in the deed book
that was current, say deed books 1 or 2. In the case of divorces and other personal
matters, one could petition the state legislature. I think this may be what the Peacock
family did.
> > I would still check the Morgan County deed book of 1826-1827 to see if the
matter is mentioned; however, a useful call for you would be the Indiana State Archives,
where a researcher could help you to understand the formation and nature of the
"Indiana Historical Collection", which is the reference from which your
reference about the "Laws 1826-1827" was taken.
> > I looked at Source Book III, your resource, and found the information was an
extractions of names of citizens and their legal actions from (it appears to me) early
legislative sessions.
> > Clearly this was a very serious attempt to document early citizens and this
aspect of their lives.
> > Sharon Mills
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ryan Cramer" <cramerryan(a)hotmail.com>
> > To: inmorgan(a)rootsweb.com
> > Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:26:42 PM
> > Subject: [Morgan Co IN] Help with Indiana source book reference
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I found a reference in the "Indiana source book" regarding one of my
wife's ancestors who lived in Morgan County. It mentions that John Peacock, his wife
susannah, and children Louisa, Madison, and Betsy changed their last name to Lamb. I
wanted to find out what the original document said, so I wrote to the Morgan County court
to get a copy of it. The reference in the Indiana Source Book is:
> >
> > Under Morgan County:
> > Laws, 1825-26, pp 42-43
> >
> > The court said that they did extensive research into the civil order books, but
couldn't find anything, but they don't know exactly what the citation means.
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea where I could look to find this document?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ryan Cramer
> >
> >
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