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Thank You Judy.... Just got back in town....
Bets Regards, Trev
----- Original Message -----
From: <CrzyForGenealogy(a)cs.com>
To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:21 PM
Subject: [INMARTIN] Re: INMARTIN-D Digest V02 #127
> Trev:
>
> There is a Christian Cemetery right across the county line in Daviess
County:
Trev:
There is a Christian Cemetery right across the county line in Daviess County:
Alfordsville Christian or Community Cemetery
(Reeve Township), Daviess County, IN
Section 34, Township 2N, Range 5W
**North of Alfordsville 1/3 Mile on Road 1175W**
Check it out here: <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~indavies">http://www.rootsweb.com/~indavies</A>
Judi
CrzyForGenealogy(a)cs.com
Thank you John for the address of the Archives. Church records had slipped
my memory. The only thing I have to go on in this area is that our family
was buried at a "Christian faith church"..... does anyone know if this type
of church was near Shoals??
Best Regards, Trev
Thank you.
Is there someone who can access the Odon Journal from Daviess County Library
for those of us who live
1500 miles away?
It would sure be a great project for a gen group who wanted to make info
available - not sell it, but make it available online. Greene County
Indiana has a lot of info online, free for all, so lots of information is
exchanged on their rootsweb site.
Thanks again.
John and Saundra Carr
Eastern Shore of VA
----- Original Message -----
From: debra dougherty <djd434(a)rtccom.net>
To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [INMARTIN] RE: Martin Co. Museum
> The Odon Journal is also on microfilm at the Daviess County Library in
> Washington Indiana, as is the Washington Times Herald, and the Washington
> Democrat. Believe they go back to the early to mid 1800's.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Saundra Carr" <twigs(a)intercom.net>
> To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [INMARTIN] RE: Martin Co. Museum
>
>
> > Perhaps the newspaper could be microfilmed and shared.
> > I was unable to view the Odon Journal while visiting because I was told:
> > "Oh, we have the papers in the safe but if we allow anyone to look at
them
> > they will be ruined"
> > Of course, but why keep in the safe and not share what we all are trying
> to
> > "preserve" by doing
> > Martin County family history! I later learned the Odon Journal had been
> > microfilmed and was at Allen County Library. Not much help to those of
us
> > who live far away.
> >
> > It is a problem for all of us. It is very difficult to be the "keepers"
> of
> > these documents and have everyone expect them to be preserved -- but not
> > have funds to do so.
> >
> > It is a problem that can be solved.
> >
> > We have just shared some great suggestions.
> >
> > John Carr
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: NBaker <nbaker(a)dmrtc.net>
> > To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> > Subject: [INMARTIN] RE: Martin Co. Museum
> >
> >
> > > The Martin Co. museum does not have any newspapers
> > > back to 1830. The oldest papers we have are from the Dover
> > > Hill Comet. They were printed in 1875 - 1876. We do not intend to give
> > these papers to a University or any such
> > > organization.
> > >
> > > It is hard to beleive that a window was opened upstairs because all
the
> > windows have been painted shut. If one
> > > was open it was done by someone checking out the building.
> > >
> > > We have very little money to keep this building un reapir.
> > > The Co. Commissioners give us $500.00 per year. We make
> > > about $300.00 at the bean dinner in the Fall. The other income it from
> > dues and donations.
> > >
> > > We open by request only because we do not have the
> > > enough people that have the time to keep it open. A lot
> > > of our members work and others are getting to old to do
> > > a lot of work at the museum.
> > >
> > > Nancy Baker, Sec,
> > > Martin Co. Historical Society
> > > 505 High St.
> > > Shoals, IN 47581
> > >
> > >
> > >
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I am researching Harvey McMillen/in/any other way you can spell it. He
bought land in sections 20 and 29 in Martin Co on Jan 17, 1853. He sold the
section 20 land in 1860 to Jacob Jennings. In 1859 he married Barbary Jane
Noland, they were married by minister Wayne Alford of the Alfordsville
Christian Church.
I'm trying to find out any informtation that might lead me to his parents,
or other siblings. He lived (presumably) on his land for 6 years by himself.
There are 3 other McMillens who bought land in Martin county between 1854
and 1861 that I think may be his brothers, but I have no information about
the land that they purchased. Their names were James, John, and Jesse.
Anything would be great, no matter how big or small!!!
Thanks!
Jennifer in Oregon
Surnames:
Allgood, Barcus, Birchfield, Craft, Fox, Harding, Maillet, McMillin, Noland,
Pace, Riley, Smith.
Counties:
Indiana; Clay, Daviess, Parke, Hancock,Martin, Rush, Vigo, Vermillion.
Illinois; Clark.
Pennsylvania; Beaver, Washington.
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To all who are concerned about the old records stored in the old Martin
Co. courthouse bldg. The below message is written to me from my cousin,
who also is a Martin Co., historian. She was very surprised to learn
about all those concerned about these records.
I guess we should all be writing all the commissioners in Martin Co.,
IN.....if someone can get those for us, would be helpful. All of the
commissioners have changed in the last election, I believe except one..?
Sincerely,
Melanie
"Melanie,
I went into the website you refereed to and was amazed at the concerned
people about the old court records. I knew nothing of this problem.
I sent your request to everyone I knew who would be interested in this
matter.
The only thing I have heard is that the historical society is taking
over
the old courthouse and moving the museum over there. If they are open
now by
appointment only.....how are genealogists EVER going to get in to see
these
old preserved materials???? This is not the answer. Nancy stated in her
letter that they have no help and some are to old to help, as the reason
the
museum is never open. Will this matter be resolved just because they
move
the museum to the old courthouse???I think not!!! How will they ever
heat
and maintain this huge old building on $500.00 a year??
The commissioners should have thought about the matter of "no room" for
all
the old records when they bought the bank building 3 years ago. I like
you
know that it does NO good to meet with the commissioners when we have a
need. Their minds are made up. We need new blood in our county offices.
The
same ones pass the jobs around and stay in there "until death do us
part!"
Sad situation.
Do you know that already there are some old records stored in the
basement
of the new jail? Have you ever tried to access those? Almost impossible
to
get entry into the jail and when you do, you feel like a criminal.
Enough of my venting. Good luck in your endeavors to solve this
situation.
You need to go to a state level to get help!!!"
The Odon newspapers are also at the Washington library and have an index. They are also available for inter library loan threw the Indiana State Library.
JUDY
----- Original Message -----
From: Saundra Carr
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:35 PM
To: INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARTIN] RE: Martin Co. Museum
Perhaps the newspaper could be microfilmed and shared.
I was unable to view the Odon Journal while visiting because I was told:
"Oh, we have the papers in the safe but if we allow anyone to look at them
they will be ruined"
Of course, but why keep in the safe and not share what we all are trying to
"preserve" by doing
Martin County family history! I later learned the Odon Journal had been
microfilmed and was at Allen County Library. Not much help to those of us
who live far away.
It is a problem for all of us. It is very difficult to be the "keepers" of
these documents and have everyone expect them to be preserved -- but not
have funds to do so.
It is a problem that can be solved.
We have just shared some great suggestions.
John Carr
----- Original Message -----
From: NBaker <nbaker(a)dmrtc.net>
To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: [INMARTIN] RE: Martin Co. Museum
> The Martin Co. museum does not have any newspapers
> back to 1830. The oldest papers we have are from the Dover
> Hill Comet. They were printed in 1875 - 1876. We do not intend to give
these papers to a University or any such
> organization.
>
> It is hard to beleive that a window was opened upstairs because all the
windows have been painted shut. If one
> was open it was done by someone checking out the building.
>
> We have very little money to keep this building un reapir.
> The Co. Commissioners give us $500.00 per year. We make
> about $300.00 at the bean dinner in the Fall. The other income it from
dues and donations.
>
> We open by request only because we do not have the
> enough people that have the time to keep it open. A lot
> of our members work and others are getting to old to do
> a lot of work at the museum.
>
> Nancy Baker, Sec,
> Martin Co. Historical Society
> 505 High St.
> Shoals, IN 47581
>
>
>
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Perhaps the newspaper could be microfilmed and shared.
I was unable to view the Odon Journal while visiting because I was told:
"Oh, we have the papers in the safe but if we allow anyone to look at them
they will be ruined"
Of course, but why keep in the safe and not share what we all are trying to
"preserve" by doing
Martin County family history! I later learned the Odon Journal had been
microfilmed and was at Allen County Library. Not much help to those of us
who live far away.
It is a problem for all of us. It is very difficult to be the "keepers" of
these documents and have everyone expect them to be preserved -- but not
have funds to do so.
It is a problem that can be solved.
We have just shared some great suggestions.
John Carr
----- Original Message -----
From: NBaker <nbaker(a)dmrtc.net>
To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: [INMARTIN] RE: Martin Co. Museum
> The Martin Co. museum does not have any newspapers
> back to 1830. The oldest papers we have are from the Dover
> Hill Comet. They were printed in 1875 - 1876. We do not intend to give
these papers to a University or any such
> organization.
>
> It is hard to beleive that a window was opened upstairs because all the
windows have been painted shut. If one
> was open it was done by someone checking out the building.
>
> We have very little money to keep this building un reapir.
> The Co. Commissioners give us $500.00 per year. We make
> about $300.00 at the bean dinner in the Fall. The other income it from
dues and donations.
>
> We open by request only because we do not have the
> enough people that have the time to keep it open. A lot
> of our members work and others are getting to old to do
> a lot of work at the museum.
>
> Nancy Baker, Sec,
> Martin Co. Historical Society
> 505 High St.
> Shoals, IN 47581
>
>
>
> ==== INMARTIN Mailing List ====
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After visiting the Courthouse a number of years ago, we were appalled at the
condition of the old records and, at that time, a lack of concern for
sharing them by the staff. We voiced our opine online and thru a couple of
letters. We were assured this was a temporary situation. However, we have
been unable to return to do onsite research.
Perhaps it needs to be reminded that the County government has a
responsibility stipulated by law to protect those records.
Wish we were not so far away...
John Carr
----- Original Message -----
From: NBaker <nbaker(a)dmrtc.net>
To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: [INMARTIN] RE: Old Courthouse records
> Hello,
>
> To everyone that is interested the old courthouse records.
> The old courthouse records are still in the basement. I called one of the
commissioners and he told me he didn't
> know what they were going to do about them. Every office has now moved
into the new courthouse and something needs to be done. The building is now
closed.
>
> Nancy Baker
> County Historian
> Shoals, IN
>
>
>
>
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My father was born and raised in Shoals and I too hope to see the records in
the court house basement preserved. I will be watching this site for further
information as to who should be contacted. Pat Denny Reid, Cedar Rapid,
Iowa
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I am looking for information on Martha Dillon b. about 1825 probably in Indiana m. Anthony Street b. 1819 in Adair County, Kentucky on July 10, 1858 in Martin County, Indiana
Their children I have are:
Peggy b. abt. 1858
Lavina b. abt. 1859
Melvina b. abt. 1859
Lizann b. abt. 1860
Sarah b. abt. 1864
Silas Arthur b. 1865
Henry b. abt. 1868
Would like to communicate with any of the descendents of any of this family and would like to know who Martha's parents are and any other information I can find out about her.Thanks.
Does JOHN BRIDGES still help out. 2 yrs ago me and ny sister came to the
courthouse and he helped me with the PHIPPS/BOWMAN line. His line is with my
gr. grandmother MARY ANN BOWMAN/BRIDGES/PHIPPS. He came from the first
marriage. He played the violin that belonged to my gr, GRANDFATHER WILLIAM
PHIPPS who raised his ancester. My camera pictures i took of him didnt turn
out. Does he have an E-Mail? I enjoyed him. Mildred J. REBENNACK
That would be Bedford Co., TN. When I first went for research work the
county clerk had explained to me that I had to wait for a member of the
historical soc. because they had control of all the records before 1900.
They had all the records in one very big vault in the court house that was
transformed into a research/archiving room. A very nice experience indeed...
Best Regards, Trev
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kate B." <katekb(a)mcleodusa.net>
To: <INMARTIN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [INMARTIN] Re: Old Courthouse records
Trev,
What county is it that you are talking about?
Kate
The old courthouse records are being moved upstairs
from the damp basement into the old clerk's office in the
old courthouse. Will keep everyone informed as work
progresses on this project.
Nancy Baker
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Looking for any info. on William Benjamin Anderson CARTER(aka. W.B.A., W.A.),b.1813,Kentucky,marr.Jan. 2,1833, Rockcastle,Ky., Tempy ADAMS CARTER,b.1814, Ky.children: Nancy Ann Adeline, Matilda Caroline,William Benjamin Anderson jr.,Daniel Adams,Hannah Jane, George B., Sarah Elizabeth,Martin Luther. William sr., was a physician & preacher with the Disciple of Christ church. Any info. would be greatly appreciated.
Pat
> There is only about a 5 year span, maybe (1865-1870), that this
> family lived here and I am wondering if I might get lucky and find
> a mention of them arriving, or leaving, in a old local paper. This
> is the only instance that I can think of where I might find another
> record of them, I didn't see an original land purchase but I suppose
> it's possible they could have purchased some 2nd hand land. Do you
> know if any of these old papers survived? Do you think I might find
> some clues in that nice library in Evansville, IN??
I would guess that by 1870 probably all the BLM land in Martin Co. had been
picked up by "first owners." My kinfolk in Daviess Co. bought only a portion
of their land directly from the BLM, and that part of their land transations
stopped about 1845. I think you have a reasonable chance to find land
transactions in records in the County Seat (Shoals) in the old courthouse.
Another place you might look is in church records. If your people were
"churchy" they might well have associated at least temporarily with a
congregation in their area. There might be secondary records in the State
Archives, and it is relatively inexpensive to have a search of archival
records done there. I have had some land purchase and civil war records
searched there at a cost of about $20. Some address info is:
Indiana Commission on Public Records
Indiana State Archives (317) 232-3660
Room 117, State Library Bldg.
Genealogy (317) 232-3689
140 N. Senate Avenue
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204-2215
Good luck on your search.
John Ragle
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I have seen where a county will turn the old records over to their local
historical soc. for preservation, archiving, and general trustee of the
records as far as the public looking at them. This takes a lot of work thow
and some real dedication on the part of the hist. soc....ours has a
volunteer who lets the public in 3 times a week and at the off times they
are busy preserving the records. They transcribe and publish books to
support theeir work just like a gen. soc.... the county is greatful because
it frees them to do what they need to be doing, working on the future...
Best Regards, Trev
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MARTIN COUNTY INDIANA GENWEB LIST:>>>
A ELIZABETH MILLER / WM. R. RINEY M: 8-21-1870 BK..3 PG. 42
JOHN & ROSALIN M: 9-22-1851 BK. 1 PG. 120
1882-1920 DEATHS;> CHARLEY, CLETUS,DORTHA W.,UNNAMED MALE
SURNAMES:. RUSSELL MILLER
E-MAIL; R. MILLE9601(a)AOL.COM
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Does anyone have information on Eliza Miller, b.1858, IN, father, John Miller, b.1821, d. 1896, mother, Rosalin Ciscoe, b. 1831, d. bef 1960? We believe she married someone named ? Williams. Eliza and her parents were living in Mitcheltree township, Martin county, IN, in 1860. Any information on Eliza would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Looking for help in the Scotland, Indiana area cemeteries for Elizabeth Ann [Sharpless] O'Donald about 1873 or 4 and Ewel O'Donald 1913. Does anyone do this in that area?
Thanks, Judy
Nancy wrote:
>The Martin Co. museum does not have any newspapers
>back to 1830. The oldest papers we have are from the Dover
>Hill Comet. They were printed in 1875 - 1876. We do not intend to
>>give these papers to a University or any such organization.
Nancy,
Please don't interpret this as a flame because it is TRULY not
intended in that way.
I do hope the museum will at least consider letting the State
Library film the newspapers in their possession. Preservation is
*so* necessary. I can fully understand the museum not letting
another facility HAVE the original documents if they are preserved
in another manner.
I was at the historical museum (in a brick house) a year ago -- July
2001 when it was open on a Saturday until something like 1pm. I
believe it was 4th of July weekend -- the catfish festival was going
on and I think it was open that day in conjunction with the
festival.
My friend and I were in an upstairs bedroom and there were shelves
with newspapers sitting loose with no protection whatsoever. I
personally saw at least one newspaper from the 1830s sitting on one
of those shelves. We were shocked and appalled because there they
were, where anyone could mishandle (or even take!) these brittle old
newspapers. We were also concerned because it was hot and humid and
the window was open, with some breeze blowing the pages of the
papers around a bit. While they were readily available to do
research, the wear and tear on these valuable old documents is also
a problem. I didn't say anything at the time because I knew there
was not much that could be done -- funding and staffing being what
they obviously are, and I didn't want to appear to be a snotty
out-of-towner complaining about difficulties that I'm sure the
museum staff is painfully aware of and is only doing the best they
can with what they have.
>It is hard to beleive that a window was opened upstairs because all
>>the windows have been painted shut. If one
>was open it was done by someone checking out the building.
All I know is that I was there and I saw the window open. My friend
who was with me, still mentions it whenever we go to do research.
>We have very little money to keep this building un reapir.
>The Co. Commissioners give us $500.00 per year. We make
>about $300.00 at the bean dinner in the Fall. The other income it
>>from dues and donations.
And it is a beautiful old house! It would break my heart to see the
house itself fall into disrepair. And the lovely pieces of history
that it houses need a place to be kept and preserved. There is no
doubt that the museum has no funding, to speak of, and it's a
tragedy.
>We open by request only because we do not have the
>enough people that have the time to keep it open. A lot
>of our members work and others are getting to old to do
>a lot of work at the museum.
Unfortunately, that's the nature of small community
museums/facilities. I'll be down there volunteering for you once I
retire because we hope to move to Patoka, but that's another 25 yrs
down the road. I'd do it now, without hesitation, but I live 4.5
hrs from Shoals and have kids between the ages of 12 and 19 and I'm
lucky to get down there once a year. I keep playing the lottery and
if I win, you can bet Martin county's history is going to get a big
donation! <G>
Diana Craig Busche
Researching: ARCHER/WOLFINGTON/CAVE/BAGGERLY/JONES/CRAIG/HURST of
Orange, Martin, Dubois & Pike counties of Indiana
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