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Anyone looking for English ancestors can find an abundance of links
at http://www.pricegen.com/english_genealogy.html
Some require a subscription but most are great for browsing. This was
sent to me by Fred Engelking, Genealogy Society of Marion County.
An amusing one is OLD OCCUPATION NAMES. A Batman was and still
is an Army officers servant. A Banker repaired walls in a tunnel or
ditch.
A Knock Knobbler is a dog catcher. A Jouster is a female fish hawker.
Bob
What is a female fish hawker???
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Bob Alloway <ralloway(a)earthlink.net>wrote:
> Anyone looking for English ancestors can find an abundance of links
>
> at http://www.pricegen.com/english_genealogy.html
>
> Some require a subscription but most are great for browsing. This was
>
> sent to me by Fred Engelking, Genealogy Society of Marion County.
>
> An amusing one is OLD OCCUPATION NAMES. A Batman was and still
>
> is an Army officers servant. A Banker repaired walls in a tunnel or
> ditch.
>
> A Knock Knobbler is a dog catcher. A Jouster is a female fish hawker.
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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Digging up the dead, Irritating the living......it's what I do best!
I, for one, am glad that this message was posted here! Thank you so much!
My brother attended this home/school. There are numerous buildings on the
campus. He went there for at least 2-3 years (can't remember for sure). I
remember almost every Sunday traveling there to visit him with my mother.
This was a wonderful place and thank goodness it has been available for all
of these years. My brother began singing there and was in the choir and was
a soloist and won state-wide medals for his voice while he attended school
there. My brother was a bit of a rebel and stole a couple of cars to go
joyriding in. He was a handful when he was a young teen.
>From that school, my brother went on to work for Harry W. Moore Funeral
Homes and went to college at the Mortuary College on East 38th Street years
ago. He became a funeral director for quite a number of years and turned
out to be a wonderful member of society. He wasn't a really bad kid, but we
had no father around to discipline him because he had died when my brother
was 7 and I just barely 2. I truly believe that the school made a huge
impact on him. He still has friends from his time at that school that he
talks with.
I'm calling him to let him today to tell about this potential closing. He
may want to help if he can, to keep the school open and functioning.
Denise
-----Original Message-----
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:12:51 -0500
From: "Bob Alloway" <ralloway(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
To: <inmarion(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <CAD78327E7264471800CDCA3CF64D7BF@bobpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sad state of affairs! Let's displace all the children and tear the place
down! Bob
In the IndyStar Thursday January 8, 2009
Keep youth home open, Legion urges state
The Indiana Department of the American Legion is urging state officials to
reconsider their decision to close a 143-year-old home for troubled
children.
Indiana Legion spokesman Stephen Short said Thursday the 125,000-member
organization is nearly unanimously opposed to the decision to close the
Indiana Soldiers' and Sailors' Children's Home near Knightstown. The group
will meet with state officials this weekend at the Legion's annual midwinter
conference to discuss its concerns.
The Indiana State Department of Health said this week it would close the
home and move the 114 fifth- through 12th-graders into community settings in
May. The state cited the costs to renovate and maintain the facility, which
was founded in 1865 to care for children of Civil War veterans and once
housed 1,000 children.
Veterans groups have helped support the home since it was founded. The
Indiana Legion gives $50,000 in money and services each year, Short said.
There is a site to get petitions against the closing of the ISSCH. I was
reading one of the remarks messages, no. 76 below the petition from
a staff member and some good issues are brought out. You can view
the petiton here:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-indiana-soldiers-and-sailors-childrens
-home
Here is the reply:
To all those signing this support is VERY MUCH APPRECIATED by the Students &
Staff. I am a staff at ISSCH and the news was devastating to all of us,
mostly because we are like a family the kids are a big part of our lives. We
all worry about what will happen to them when the state closes our doors.
The decision was based on facts and figures I really hope our government
doesn't put a price tag on the lives of these children. They wouldn't their
own children's lives. I've worked with many children from a verity of
backgrounds and the sad thing is when they close our doors these kids will
be put out wondering WHY. Some will return to families that just can't
support them, some will go back to abusive families, some will even be on
the streets selling & or using drugs. So many have said if it weren't for
the HOME they would be in jail or dead the HOME has made a difference in so
many lives. We just ask that you rethink your decision on the closure. It is
obvious that the "home based communities" failed them before they came to
the HOME what makes you think its going to be different this time??? THANK
YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND A BIG THANK YOU TO THE AMERICAN LEIGON, THE
SONS OF THE AMERCIAN LEGION, AND ALUMNI FOR ALL YOUR DONATIONS AND SUPPORT
OVER THE YEARS!!!! IT'S NOT OVER YET...
If the State decides to close the home, perhaps it could be renovated to
accommodate old soldiers and sailors? I would think it would be best to
mainstream these kids into public schools where they do not feel singled out
as "troubled, abandoned or poor" !
-----Original Message-----
From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of inmarion-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:01 AM
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: INMARION Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3
Today's Topics:
1. SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE (Bob Alloway)
2. Re: SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE (Donna Marstrander)
3. HOOSIER HISTORY LIVE (Bob Alloway)
4. SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE (Bob Alloway)
5. Re: SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE (myra hickman)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:12:51 -0500
From: "Bob Alloway" <ralloway(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
To: <inmarion(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <CAD78327E7264471800CDCA3CF64D7BF@bobpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sad state of affairs! Let's displace all the children and tear the place
down! Bob
In the IndyStar Thursday January 8, 2009
Keep youth home open, Legion urges state
The Indiana Department of the American Legion is urging state officials to
reconsider their decision to close a 143-year-old home for troubled
children.
Indiana Legion spokesman Stephen Short said Thursday the 125,000-member
organization is nearly unanimously opposed to the decision to close the
Indiana Soldiers' and Sailors' Children's Home near Knightstown. The group
will meet with state officials this weekend at the Legion's annual midwinter
conference to discuss its concerns.
The Indiana State Department of Health said this week it would close the
home and move the 114 fifth- through 12th-graders into community settings in
May. The state cited the costs to renovate and maintain the facility, which
was founded in 1865 to care for children of Civil War veterans and once
housed 1,000 children.
Veterans groups have helped support the home since it was founded. The
Indiana Legion gives $50,000 in money and services each year, Short said.
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:02:24 -0500
From: "Donna Marstrander" <donna(a)marstrander.com>
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID:
<e5c81f5e0901090602s725862e7je9349590354b2268(a)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hey Bob,
Do you know where this place is. If you want to check it out and let us know
what you think I and perhaps other readers would be interested.Maybe somehow
we could help if the building should stay. It does sound like a terribly old
building. Is it falling apart or in great shape.I wonder what the kids
viewpoint is?
Happy New Year
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Bob Alloway <ralloway(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Sad state of affairs! Let's displace all the children and tear the place
> down! Bob
>
>
> In the IndyStar Thursday January 8, 2009
>
> Keep youth home open, Legion urges state
>
> The Indiana Department of the American Legion is urging state officials to
> reconsider their decision to close a 143-year-old home for troubled
> children.
>
> Indiana Legion spokesman Stephen Short said Thursday the 125,000-member
> organization is nearly unanimously opposed to the decision to close the
> Indiana Soldiers' and Sailors' Children's Home near Knightstown. The group
> will meet with state officials this weekend at the Legion's annual
> midwinter
> conference to discuss its concerns.
>
> The Indiana State Department of Health said this week it would close the
> home and move the 114 fifth- through 12th-graders into community settings
> in
> May. The state cited the costs to renovate and maintain the facility,
which
> was founded in 1865 to care for children of Civil War veterans and once
> housed 1,000 children.
>
> Veterans groups have helped support the home since it was founded. The
> Indiana Legion gives $50,000 in money and services each year, Short said.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------
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>
--
Donna
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:24:46 -0500
From: "Bob Alloway" <ralloway(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: [INMARION] HOOSIER HISTORY LIVE
To: <inmarion(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <6B96126222B74893B1430F2160CB6D81@bobpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
This Saturday's call in broadcast.
http://www.hoosierhistorylive.info/
Snowstorms, ice, sleet, howling winds, and long, dark nights. With all of
that, winter in Indiana can be a major challenge in the 21st century. Ever
wonder how the early Hoosier pioneers and Native Americans made it through?
Without access to fresh fruit, why didn't everyone here in the 1830s get
scurvy? And with the bitter temps, was it ever truly comfortable in the
lean-tos and wooden cabins of the pioneers or the Native Americans' homes?
FYI: According to our studio guest Jim Willaert of
<http://www.connerprairie.org/> Conner Prairie, the predominant Native
American tribe in Central Indiana during the 1820s and '30s, the Delaware
Indians (also called the Lenape), lived in wigwams or log cabins similar to
those of the white settlers. Obviously, no one enjoyed furnaces,
refrigerators, snow plows, and plumbing.
So we have questions galore for Jim, whose title is experience manager of
the Lenape Village and Conner Homestead.
Nelson plans to ask Jim:
* Where and how did white settlers and Native Americans store their
food for the long winter? Cabins and wigwams look mighty small to
accommodate the months of food needed for the era's large families. Even
root cellars don't seem adequate.
* What about drinking water? How was it obtained when all of the
nearby ponds, creeks, and rivers were frozen? Did people heat up frozen
water on their fireplaces?
* With only nine hours or so of daylight in Indiana during the
shortest days of the year, how the heck did our ancestors spend their time?
Seems like candles and lanterns must have been lit constantly.
* Back to the comfort level in these dwellings on the Hoosier
frontier. Is it true that folks packed snow against their homes' exteriors
to keep warm? And did households huddle up, day and night, as another
technique for trying to keep warm?
* What about the horses and cows owned by white settlers and Native
Americans? Keeping livestock from shivering (or worse) surely was a major
challenge.
* Of course, we are proud Hoosiers. Even so, don't you sometimes
wonder why people in the early 1800s chose to settle in the Midwest with its
brutal winters rather than in the South, where winter survival is so much
easier? Maybe it has to do with soil conditions. Or were diseases like
malaria rampant in what became the Southern states? We'll ask our expert
about frontier life.
Surely you have some "how-the-heck-did-they-do-it?" questions related to
winter survival long before furnaces, 'fridges and other winter
"indispensables". This is your chance to call in and question an expert
about frontier life at 317 788 3314.
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:52:31 -0500
From: "Bob Alloway" <ralloway(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
To: <inmarion(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <CE27487C1A934B54ADBFA718ADCA14BE@bobpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Donna, I know this is the Marion County list but the news is about Henry
County. The Knightstown Soldiers & Sailors home. We visited there and it
is 140 years old. The state also did away with the Marion County Home and
displaced a lot of people too. Go here:
http://www.in.gov/icpr/4078.htm Site has a search window if you know
someone who was living here.. Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Donna Marstrander
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:02 AM
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
Hey Bob,
Do you know where this place is. If you want to check it out and let us know
what you think I and perhaps other readers would be interested.Maybe somehow
we could help if the building should stay. It does sound like a terribly old
building. Is it falling apart or in great shape.I wonder what the kids
viewpoint is?
Happy New Year
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:16:48 -0800 (PST)
From: myra hickman <mjhickman(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <605098.77731.qm(a)web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Sounds like a your "Man Mitch" move.
--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Bob Alloway <ralloway(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Bob Alloway <ralloway(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:52 AM
Donna, I know this is the Marion County list but the news is about Henry
County. The Knightstown Soldiers & Sailors home. We visited there and it
is 140 years old. The state also did away with the Marion County Home and
displaced a lot of people too. Go here:
http://www.in.gov/icpr/4078.htm Site has a search window if you know
someone who was living here.. Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Donna Marstrander
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:02 AM
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
Hey Bob,
Do you know where this place is. If you want to check it out and let us know
what you think I and perhaps other readers would be interested.Maybe somehow
we could help if the building should stay. It does sound like a terribly old
building. Is it falling apart or in great shape.I wonder what the kids
viewpoint is?
Happy New Year
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Donna, I know this is the Marion County list but the news is about Henry
County. The Knightstown Soldiers & Sailors home. We visited there and it
is 140 years old. The state also did away with the Marion County Home and
displaced a lot of people too. Go here:
http://www.in.gov/icpr/4078.htm Site has a search window if you know
someone who was living here.. Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Donna Marstrander
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:02 AM
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SOLDIERS & SAILORS HOME TO CLOSE
Hey Bob,
Do you know where this place is. If you want to check it out and let us know
what you think I and perhaps other readers would be interested.Maybe somehow
we could help if the building should stay. It does sound like a terribly old
building. Is it falling apart or in great shape.I wonder what the kids
viewpoint is?
Happy New Year
This Saturday's call in broadcast.
http://www.hoosierhistorylive.info/
Snowstorms, ice, sleet, howling winds, and long, dark nights. With all of
that, winter in Indiana can be a major challenge in the 21st century. Ever
wonder how the early Hoosier pioneers and Native Americans made it through?
Without access to fresh fruit, why didn't everyone here in the 1830s get
scurvy? And with the bitter temps, was it ever truly comfortable in the
lean-tos and wooden cabins of the pioneers or the Native Americans' homes?
FYI: According to our studio guest Jim Willaert of
<http://www.connerprairie.org/> Conner Prairie, the predominant Native
American tribe in Central Indiana during the 1820s and '30s, the Delaware
Indians (also called the Lenape), lived in wigwams or log cabins similar to
those of the white settlers. Obviously, no one enjoyed furnaces,
refrigerators, snow plows, and plumbing.
So we have questions galore for Jim, whose title is experience manager of
the Lenape Village and Conner Homestead.
Nelson plans to ask Jim:
* Where and how did white settlers and Native Americans store their
food for the long winter? Cabins and wigwams look mighty small to
accommodate the months of food needed for the era's large families. Even
root cellars don't seem adequate.
* What about drinking water? How was it obtained when all of the
nearby ponds, creeks, and rivers were frozen? Did people heat up frozen
water on their fireplaces?
* With only nine hours or so of daylight in Indiana during the
shortest days of the year, how the heck did our ancestors spend their time?
Seems like candles and lanterns must have been lit constantly.
* Back to the comfort level in these dwellings on the Hoosier
frontier. Is it true that folks packed snow against their homes' exteriors
to keep warm? And did households huddle up, day and night, as another
technique for trying to keep warm?
* What about the horses and cows owned by white settlers and Native
Americans? Keeping livestock from shivering (or worse) surely was a major
challenge.
* Of course, we are proud Hoosiers. Even so, don't you sometimes
wonder why people in the early 1800s chose to settle in the Midwest with its
brutal winters rather than in the South, where winter survival is so much
easier? Maybe it has to do with soil conditions. Or were diseases like
malaria rampant in what became the Southern states? We'll ask our expert
about frontier life.
Surely you have some "how-the-heck-did-they-do-it?" questions related to
winter survival long before furnaces, 'fridges and other winter
"indispensables". This is your chance to call in and question an expert
about frontier life at 317 788 3314.
Sad state of affairs! Let's displace all the children and tear the place
down! Bob
In the IndyStar Thursday January 8, 2009
Keep youth home open, Legion urges state
The Indiana Department of the American Legion is urging state officials to
reconsider their decision to close a 143-year-old home for troubled
children.
Indiana Legion spokesman Stephen Short said Thursday the 125,000-member
organization is nearly unanimously opposed to the decision to close the
Indiana Soldiers' and Sailors' Children's Home near Knightstown. The group
will meet with state officials this weekend at the Legion's annual midwinter
conference to discuss its concerns.
The Indiana State Department of Health said this week it would close the
home and move the 114 fifth- through 12th-graders into community settings in
May. The state cited the costs to renovate and maintain the facility, which
was founded in 1865 to care for children of Civil War veterans and once
housed 1,000 children.
Veterans groups have helped support the home since it was founded. The
Indiana Legion gives $50,000 in money and services each year, Short said.
Indiana Marriages (covers 68 counties)
1850-1924 - the old WPA index - is available on CD from Heritage Quest and
they are also available on ancestry.com.
Nan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Maxwell" <hmaxwell2(a)comcast.net>
To: <inmarion(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SEARCH LINK for family & local histories
> Sharing links...
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I use this "County-finder" constantly. You know your great uncle was
> born in Dime Box, TX, but what's the county name? Go here:
> http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi
>
> Enter the name of the town/city and the returns will show the county
> in which it lies.
> Did you know there are FOUR towns named "Mechanicsburg" in Indiana,
> four in Ohio and two in PA?
>
> Indiana Marriages to 1850:
> http://208.119.135.17/db/in_marriages_1850/marriages_search.asp
>
> Marion County, Indiana: Marriages 1924 to present:
> http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/
>
> Howard
>
> PS Does anyone have an internet source for Indiana or Marion county
> marriages between 1850 and 1924 (the two dates above)?
>
>
>
>
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Howard, that is a good link for counties. It also shows sites for the
county to navigate.
I think I saw a site where those marriages are being transcribed and are
about complete. If I can find it again I will post it. Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Howard Maxwell
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:21 PM
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARION] SEARCH LINK for family & local histories
Sharing links...
Bob,
I use this "County-finder" constantly. You know your great uncle was
born in Dime Box, TX, but what's the county name? Go here:
http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi
Enter the name of the town/city and the returns will show the county
in which it lies.
Did you know there are FOUR towns named "Mechanicsburg" in Indiana,
four in Ohio and two in PA?
Indiana Marriages to 1850:
http://208.119.135.17/db/in_marriages_1850/marriages_search.asp
Marion County, Indiana: Marriages 1924 to present:
http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/
Howard
PS Does anyone have an internet source for Indiana or Marion county
marriages between 1850 and 1924 (the two dates above)?
Sharing links...
Bob,
I use this "County-finder" constantly. You know your great uncle was
born in Dime Box, TX, but what's the county name? Go here:
http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi
Enter the name of the town/city and the returns will show the county
in which it lies.
Did you know there are FOUR towns named "Mechanicsburg" in Indiana,
four in Ohio and two in PA?
Indiana Marriages to 1850:
http://208.119.135.17/db/in_marriages_1850/marriages_search.asp
Marion County, Indiana: Marriages 1924 to present:
http://www.civicnet.net/apps/civil/marriage/
Howard
PS Does anyone have an internet source for Indiana or Marion county
marriages between 1850 and 1924 (the two dates above)?
Collection of family histories and county and local history from the
Family History Archive. Has anyone on the list found a useful link
they would like to share?
http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/index.php