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Nan,
The 1898 Sanborn Fire Insurance Map shows Diamond Chain & Mfg. Co. at
the corner of Georgia, Kentucky, and Mississippi. It actually
stretches the block, with Georgia to the north, Mobile to south,
Mississippi to the west and Kentucky coming up from the
southwest. There appears to be an alley to east separating Diamond
Chain from Henry Coburn Storage & Ware House Company. He was a
supervisor on the 2nd floor at the time of his death in 1908.
Joel
At 10:30 PM 12/7/2007, you wrote:
>Joel,
>
>Are you sure that he worked at Diamond Chain? That location on Kentucky
>Avenue is where the old City/Greenlawn Cemetery was. They closed the
>cemetery and moved the graves and that is where they build the Diamond Chain
>plant. I don't think it was built until around 1939.
>
>The Terminal Realty Corp bought the cemetery grounds on March 24, 1924.
>
>Nan
>
>Nancy Lee White
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>Volunteers have a warm fuzzy feeling!
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
>On Behalf Of Joel S. Russell
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:53 PM
>To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [INMARION] Any good 'detectives' out there?
>
>Hello all,
>
>Are there any good 'detectives' out there who might help me determine
>where a photo was taken?
>
>Please see the image at http://www.rafert.org/photos/Barbershop.htm .
>
>The only thing I know positively about this photo is that the man
>third from the right in the vest is Edward Rafert (1869-1908). He
>worked at Diamond Chain and lived at 139 E. Merrill. It seems fairly
>certain to me that the building they are standing in front of is a
>Barbershop, but I'm not positive who it belongs to. On the window it
>says Rudo....... Maur....... I've found that in 1889 a Rudolph
>Mauradg appears in the City directory living at 524 E.
>Washington. In 1890 a Rudolph Maurath appears as a bartender living
>at 297 S. Delaware. I've not found anything more on Rudolph Mauradg,
>but Rudolph Maurath appears in the same location and occupation in
>1900. However by 1910 he appears as a barber and the 1914 city
>directory shows his shop at 2 Kentucky. I don't have access to any
>city directories between 1890 and 1914.
>
>I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
>Joel
>http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
>
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Hello all,
Are there any good 'detectives' out there who might help me determine
where a photo was taken?
Please see the image at http://www.rafert.org/photos/Barbershop.htm .
The only thing I know positively about this photo is that the man
third from the right in the vest is Edward Rafert (1869-1908). He
worked at Diamond Chain and lived at 139 E. Merrill. It seems fairly
certain to me that the building they are standing in front of is a
Barbershop, but I'm not positive who it belongs to. On the window it
says Rudo....... Maur....... I've found that in 1889 a Rudolph
Mauradg appears in the City directory living at 524 E.
Washington. In 1890 a Rudolph Maurath appears as a bartender living
at 297 S. Delaware. I've not found anything more on Rudolph Mauradg,
but Rudolph Maurath appears in the same location and occupation in
1900. However by 1910 he appears as a barber and the 1914 city
directory shows his shop at 2 Kentucky. I don't have access to any
city directories between 1890 and 1914.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Joel
http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
The GenExchange project was started several years ago. I don't remember the
date, but at one point I was the editor of that project's newsletter. It
was going great for quite a while and then the owners went through some
difficulties and it went offline for a while. From my point of view, it never came
back full course and has been struggling ever since. I was involved with the
project prior to 2001.
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Nancy,
The family I'm looking at lived on Merrill Street as well. East
Merrill to be exact, between Alabama and Delaware.
Joel
At 08:59 PM 12/6/2007, you wrote:
>Don't be too sure. My grandparents lived at four different addresses on the
>same street, Merrill Street, and I don't have the slightest idea why <g>.
>
>Nan
>
>Nancy Lee White
>
>County Coordinator for Marion and Ohio Counties INGenExchange and
>
>County Coordinator for Hardin and Union Counties OHGenExchange
>
>http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=marion
>
>http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=in&county=ohio
>
>http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=hardin
>
>http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=oh&county=union
>
>Volunteers have a warm fuzzy feeling!
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
>On Behalf Of Joel S. Russell
>Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:16 PM
>To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [INMARION] Street Address Changes
>
>Is there a resource that shows when street numbers were changed in
>parts of the city? Using various city directories I've followed my
>ancestors addresses from 1857 to 1900. They remained on the same
>street but at times the address changed to a higher number. I
>suspect they did not change houses, but that new houses were built
>and renumbering of the houses took place. Any chance that is
>documented anywhere?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Joel
>http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
>
>
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Don't be too sure. My grandparents lived at four different addresses on the
same street, Merrill Street, and I don't have the slightest idea why <g>.
Nan
Nancy Lee White
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County Coordinator for Hardin and Union Counties OHGenExchange
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From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Joel S. Russell
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:16 PM
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [INMARION] Street Address Changes
Is there a resource that shows when street numbers were changed in
parts of the city? Using various city directories I've followed my
ancestors addresses from 1857 to 1900. They remained on the same
street but at times the address changed to a higher number. I
suspect they did not change houses, but that new houses were built
and renumbering of the houses took place. Any chance that is
documented anywhere?
Thanks!
Joel
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Bob,
Thank you so much for the information. Here is a
breakdown of the two families.
William Rafert Sr. (1791-1886) was the father of the following:
1. William Rafert Jr. (1824-1903)
2. Carl/Charles Rafert (1828-1875)
3. Sophie Rafert (1831-1915) wife of Christian Wilharm
4. Engel Rafert (1933-1902) wife of Carl/Charles Steierberg
5. Ernst Rafert (1826-1929)
6. Phillipina Rafert (1939-1919) wife of Andrew Ostermeyer
7. Ferdinand Rafert (1843-1907)
William Sr. brought his family to America in 1852
and is listed as a laborer in the records in the
U.S. Wm. Jr. also appears as a laborer. Carl
worked for the I.P. & C. Rail Road, Andrew
Ostermeyer also worked for the rail road, and Ernst Rafert was a Drayman.
Henry Rafert Sr. (1799-1881) was the father of the following:
1. Henry Rafert Jr. (c1825-c1875)
2. Charles F. Rafert (1829-aft 1880)
2. Frederick Rafert (c1832-c1865)
4. Andrew Rafert (c1836-bef 1900)
5. Christopher Rafert (1839-)
6. Christine (1849-) wife of Julius Brandt
All of the sons were carpenters like their
father. Henry and Charles started their own
business H.Rafert and Brother builders which
later appears as C.F. Rafert Builders and A. F.
Rafert Builders, this was all in the mid to late 1800s.
I've not heard of a tavern with that name, but if
you know anything more about it please let me
know. All RAFERTs in the U.S. that I've found
thus far are descended from either William Sr. or
Henry Sr. who we think, but can't yet prove, were
brothers. Wm. Sr. was from Meinsen,
Schaumburg-Lippe and his surname in Germany was Röwer (Roewer).
Thank you again for your help.
Joel
At 07:46 PM 12/6/2007, you wrote:
>I doubt you will find any info on when streets were renumbered over the
>years. Also streets were renamed. Westfield Blvd., in Broad Ripple for
>example, was renamed 7 times.
>
>I live in Indy. I am glad to help.
>
>The two Rafer in 1857 directory are:
>RAFER, Frederick, carpenter, residence Pennsylvania Street near Corporation
>Line.
>
>RAFER, William, residence Southside Market Street between Noble and Liberty
>Streets.
>
> No job listed. Did he own the boarding house all the Rafert's lived in?
>Was he the father of all the Rafert's? Did so many Rafert's being
>carpenter's own a furniture factory? Isn't there a famous tavern with that
>name?
>
>One more RAFERT I didn't give you....
>RAFERT, William, pork packer, Mansur's Pork House, residence Pennsylvania
>Street between McCarty and Pine Streets. Bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
>On Behalf Of Joel S. Russell
>Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:16 PM
>To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [INMARION] Street Address Changes
>
>Is there a resource that shows when street numbers were changed in
>parts of the city? Using various city directories I've followed my
>ancestors addresses from 1857 to 1900. They remained on the same
>street but at times the address changed to a higher number. I
>suspect they did not change houses, but that new houses were built
>and renumbering of the houses took place. Any chance that is
>documented anywhere?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Joel
>http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
>
>
>
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> Is there a resource that shows when street numbers were changed in
> parts of the city? Using various city directories I've followed my
> ancestors addresses from 1857 to 1900. They remained on the same
> street but at times the address changed to a higher number. I
> suspect they did not change houses, but that new houses were built
> and renumbering of the houses took place. Any chance that is
> documented anywhere?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joel
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
>
Joel,
This may help. I found it in "Indianapolis, The First Century" by
Hester Ann Hale.
“The numbering system is another good example of how the city had to
change as it grew. Before 1890 all buildings were numbered 1 to 500,
fifty buildings to a block, starting where the street began and
continuing to its end. A person unfamiliar with the street would have
difficulty finding the number's location. But after that date, the
buildings were renumbered, using Meridian and Washington Streets as
dividing lines. There were 100 building numbers to a block with odd
and even numbers on opposite sides of the street Also that year, all
duplicate street names were eliminated, and street name plates were
put up all over the city. Prior to 1890 each developer could use any
street name on his plat, even names of streets already in the city.
“The numbering of streets was another matter. Above North Street at
the northern line of the Mile Square later came, in sequence, Walnut,
St Clair, Pratt, and St. Joseph streets. Beyond that point the
numbering began. At that time Pratt became 9th Street and so on. The
streets south of Pratt were not given numbers. Because they were
platted in different additions, many of the cross streets did not
connect and bore different names. Tenth Street, for example, replaced
Cherry Street east of Centra1 and Clifford Avenue north of the Arsenal
grounds.”
According to the Ordinance of 1895 the city numbering system changed
according to the following table:
OLD NEW
1st 10th
2nd 11th
3rd 12th
4th 13th
5th 14th
6th 15th
7th 16th
8th 17th
9th 18th
10th 19th
11th 20th
12th 21st
13th 22nd
14th 23rd
15th 24th
16th 25th
17th 26th
18th 27th
19th 28th
20th 29th
21st 30th
22th 31st
23rd 32nd
24th 33rd
25th 34th
26th 35th
27th 36th
28th 37th
29th 38th
30th 39th
Mississippi became Senate
Tennessee became Capitol
Howard Maxwell
Indianapolis
Is there a resource that shows when street numbers were changed in
parts of the city? Using various city directories I've followed my
ancestors addresses from 1857 to 1900. They remained on the same
street but at times the address changed to a higher number. I
suspect they did not change houses, but that new houses were built
and renumbering of the houses took place. Any chance that is
documented anywhere?
Thanks!
Joel
http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
Yes I did look at that site and found some valuable information, but because
the maps are in sections, it takes alot of patience to first find the
streets and then its still hard to get a sense of the whole city and where
they were. Also, the maps were a bit later than the time I am interested
in...but that is a fantastic site!!! I learned some interesting things in
the directories, and when I have a chance will probably learn more!
-----Original Message-----
From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Alloway
Sent: 06 December 2007 17:18
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [INMARION] ISAAC ROGERS 1857
Many maps for that time period. It was so congested in the downtown area,
you won't find much out except location. You need directories for different
years that may shed light on where they were living. Did you see the link
here a couple of weeks ago? http://indiamond6.ulib.iupui.edu/ICD/
My mom spent 40 years researching our roots by traveling all around the
country to courthouses and going through old ledgers. Now we can find out
lots on our computer, if you don't want to take "ROOTS-TOURS". Bob
Subject: Re: [INMARION] ISAAC ROGERS 1857
Thanks Bob,
They may have not yet migrated to Indy at that time. Probably still in
Hendricks Co. Regarding the map, I am not familiar with Indianapolis at
all. But streets such as New York, Miley, Maryland, pop up, and then there
was a saloon at the corner of Nordyke and Morris, where my great grandfather
lived with his second wife, also around 1900. Are there books or such that
would have old Indy maps?
Thanks
Catherine
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Nancy,
I was trying to check out the genexchange site by using the links below, and
while exploring it, many of the links in the website were "not found", for
example the link for "burials". Is this site still under construction?
Regards,
Catherine
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On Behalf Of Nancy White
Sent: 02 December 2007 18:38
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARION] Irish Hill and Holy Cross
Importance: High
This was taken from St John's web page:
Among the most revered landmarks of Indianapolis is Saint John the
Evangelist Catholic Church, the oldest Catholic parish in Indianapolis (and
the former pro-cathedral), standing since 1871 in the heart of the downtown
business district. Founded in 1837 largely by immigrants from Ireland, St.
John still serves old and young, those from office and home, visitors and
residents-all worshipping in an atmosphere of beauty, peace and security.
Visitors are always welcome at St. John, where Heritage and Hope meet.
Nancy Lee White
County Coordinator for Marion and Ohio Counties INGenExchange and
County Coordinator for Hardin and Union Counties OHGenExchange
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I sure do hope you get this, Bob, I just can't seem to work the inmarion
list....anyway, I wonder if you would be willing to check in your 1857
directory for Isaac Rogers and family. I also note that you have a lot of
knowledge of Indianapolis! Would you know of a source where I could buy a
copy of a city map of Indy circa 1900? My relatives moved around an awful
lot back then and I would like to get a sense of their movements. Thanks so
much for any help!!!
Catherine
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From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Alloway
Sent: 05 December 2007 22:35
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [INMARION] FOLEY's in 1857
I have a first issue copy of A. C. Howard's 1857 directory of Indianapolis
"containing a correct list of citizen's names,
their residence and place of business", that I bought from the Genealogy
Society of Marion County.
In it are many Foley's, and it seems they were all laborers. Here is what
it reads:
FOLEY, Jeremiah, rubber, residence: Delaware, between South and Merrill
streets.
I don't have my junior detective badge yet but is a "rubber" like a
"polisher"?
FOLEY, Mary, residence: Delaware, between South and Merrill streets.
FOLEY, Michael, laborer, residence: Virginia Avenue near Georgia St.
FOLEY, Patrick, laborer, residence: corner of Liberty and Noble streets.
FOLEY, William H., blacksmith, residence: Market East of Noble street.
FOLEY, William H., blacksmith at S. Seibert's, residence: West side of R.
R. streets.
I THINK THESE TWO Wm. H. maybe same people. I looked up S. Seibert
and got this:
Seibert, Samuel M., blacksmith, N.E. corner Washington and Liberty streets,
residence in rear of shop.
I thought I would look for a picture of the blacksmith shop in Christian
Schraderer's Sketches of Early Indianapolis, which
has many of the downtown businesses drawn in the old mile square, 1850 and
before, but didn't find anything. I did find a sketch
of Nicholas McCarthy's residence which was just off the circle by the
Governors residence.
Also something about a Jeremiah Sullivan, colonel of the 13th Indiana
Volunteers. Bob
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Bob,
Thanks for looking these up for me. There were two Rafert families
in the City, the ones you listed below are Henry Rafert Sr. and his
sons. Who were the two named Rafer? The other Rafert family
consisted of William Rafert Sr. and his sons Wm. Jr., Carl/Charles,
Ernst and Ferdinand.
Thanks again!
Joel
www.rafert.org
At 07:26 PM 12/5/2007, you wrote:
>RAFERT, Henry Jr., carpenter, residence: east side Illinois St. between
>North and Walnut Streets.
>
>RAFERT, Henry Sr., carpenter, same address.
>
>RAFERT, Christian, carpenter, boards at Rafert's as well as Andrew and
>Fredrick RAFERT
>
>RAFERT, Charles, carpenter, residence West side Meridian St., between Pratt
>and First Streets.
>
>
>
>
>Bob,
>
>If you have a few minute would you check that directory for the
>surname RAFERT or ROFER, RAVER, RHOVER, etc. Given names would
>probably be William Carl/Charles, Henry, Christian. The ones I'm
>mainly looking for probably have addresses on Merrill, Delaware, or Alabama.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Joel
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RAFERT, Henry Jr., carpenter, residence: east side Illinois St. between
North and Walnut Streets.
RAFERT, Henry Sr., carpenter, same address.
RAFERT, Christian, carpenter, boards at Rafert's as well as Andrew and
Fredrick RAFERT
RAFERT, Charles, carpenter, residence West side Meridian St., between Pratt
and First Streets.
Bob,
If you have a few minute would you check that directory for the
surname RAFERT or ROFER, RAVER, RHOVER, etc. Given names would
probably be William Carl/Charles, Henry, Christian. The ones I'm
mainly looking for probably have addresses on Merrill, Delaware, or Alabama.
Thanks!
Joel
I found 7 RAFERT's and 2 RAFER. I am leaving for a couple of hours but will
fill you in later. Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel S. Russell [mailto:jsruss@mindspring.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:02 PM
To: Bob Alloway
Subject: Re: [INMARION] FOLEY's in 1857
Bob,
If you have a few minute would you check that directory for the
surname RAFERT or ROFER, RAVER, RHOVER, etc. Given names would
probably be William Carl/Charles, Henry, Christian. The ones I'm
mainly looking for probably have addresses on Merrill, Delaware, or Alabama.
Thanks!
Joel
I have a first issue copy of A. C. Howard's 1857 directory of Indianapolis
"containing a correct list of citizen's names,
their residence and place of business", that I bought from the Genealogy
Society of Marion County.
In it are many Foley's, and it seems they were all laborers. Here is what
it reads:
FOLEY, Jeremiah, rubber, residence: Delaware, between South and Merrill
streets.
I don't have my junior detective badge yet but is a "rubber" like a
"polisher"?
FOLEY, Mary, residence: Delaware, between South and Merrill streets.
FOLEY, Michael, laborer, residence: Virginia Avenue near Georgia St.
FOLEY, Patrick, laborer, residence: corner of Liberty and Noble streets.
FOLEY, William H., blacksmith, residence: Market East of Noble street.
FOLEY, William H., blacksmith at S. Seibert's, residence: West side of R.
R. streets.
I THINK THESE TWO Wm. H. maybe same people. I looked up S. Seibert
and got this:
Seibert, Samuel M., blacksmith, N.E. corner Washington and Liberty streets,
residence in rear of shop.
I thought I would look for a picture of the blacksmith shop in Christian
Schraderer's Sketches of Early Indianapolis, which
has many of the downtown businesses drawn in the old mile square, 1850 and
before, but didn't find anything. I did find a sketch
of Nicholas McCarthy's residence which was just off the circle by the
Governors residence.
Also something about a Jeremiah Sullivan, colonel of the 13th Indiana
Volunteers. Bob
Hello,
I wonder if there is a John G. Koeppen or Isaac Rogers in the directory.
Thanks for the offer!!
CE
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From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of caymancic(a)aol.com
Sent: 01 December 2007 12:35
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INMARION] Irish-Everywhere!
Just to re FYI
I have an 1868 Indy city directory.
Will do look ups but be kind, give me one or two names.? INCLUDING the first
names.? Not just a family name.? Lots of folks even back then.
DJ
-----Original Message-----
From: barbarab91(a)comcast.net
To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [INMARION] Irish-Everywhere!
You can click on the last item to the right on their toolbar which says clip
image to new window. A new window opens and you can select the part of the
map
you want and then print it.
Barbara
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From: "Joel S. Russell" <jsruss(a)mindspring.com>
> Barbara,
>
> Thanks for the lead, I actually ran across it after I posted and
> haven't pulled myself away from the computer ever since. Do you know
> if it is possible to get copies (electronic or paper) of any of the
> maps? I'm hoping to put a few neighborhoods together and place my
> relations on the map so I can better see where they were living in
> relation to each other and their schools, churches, businesses, etc.
>
> This site is a goldmine for anyone researching Indy, I can't believe
> I'd not found it before.
>
> Thanks again!!
>
> Joel
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
>
>
> At 01:46 PM 11/30/2007, you wrote:
> >Joel,
> >
> >The 1880, 1914-1918, and some later city directories for
> >Indianapolis have been digitilized and are available on the internet at
> >http://indiamond6.ulib.iupui.edu/ICD/. This is the Indiana
> >University-Purdue University Indianapolis website. I have found
> >several of my relatives in these directories. They also have
> >several other collections that have been digitalized, including some
> >older maps.
> >
> >It's great that things like this are available on the internet for
> >those of us who do not live in or near Indiana.
> >
> >Barbara in Colorado
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >From: "Joel S. Russell"
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I'd love to go to the State Library, but I live in North Carolina. I
> > > just paged through the 1880 and 1900 census once I found S. Oriental.
> > >
> > > I'd loved to get a good map of the city during that time period. So
> > > many of the homes my relatives lived in have been demolished and
> > > turned in to parking lots.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > >
> > > At 10:31 AM 11/30/2007, Bob Alloway wrote:
> > > >This one is simple. Just go to the State Library and get a city
directory
> > > >and you can see who lived on Oriental St. in the 1900's. I too,
> > didn't know
> > > >that Holy Cross neighborhood was very Irish. Bob
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: inmarion-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> > [mailto:inmarion-bounces@rootsweb.com]
> > > >On Behalf Of Joel S. Russell
> > > >Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:09 AM
> > > >To: inmarion(a)rootsweb.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [INMARION] Irish-Everywhere Newsletter
> > > >
> > > >I'd be interested to hear more about the families who lived on S.
> > > >Oriental. My great-great-grandparents lived on S. Oriental in
> > > >the the late 1800s and early 1900s. They lived a block or so south
> > > >of E. Washington and I didn't realize it was considered an Irish
> > > >neighborhood. They and most of their neighbors were German.
> > > >
> > > >I just Googled Irish Hill and found an article at
> > > >http://www.nuvo.net/archive/2005/09/14/the_irish_in_indianapolis.html
> > > >that gives the boundaries and a bit about it. Interesting, too bad I
> > > >don't have any Irish from Indy.
> > > >
> > > >If others have stories of families on S. Oriental I'd be interested
> > > >to hear with you.
> > > >
> > > >Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > >Joel
> > > >http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/
> > > >Searching: OTTO, PIEL, RAFERT, MOELLER, and MENKE.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 07:47 AM 11/28/2007, you wrote:
> > > > >I am resurrecting a free Newsletter I started some time ago called
The
> > > > >Irish-Everywhere Newsletter. I know there was a large contingent of
> > > > >Irish in
> > > > >Indianapolis because my daughter went to the grade school in the
> > > > >Irish area of
> > > > >Indy at what was called Irish Hill. That school was Holy Cross
Central
> > > > >Catholic on Oriental Avenue, just north of Washington Street.
> > > > >
> > > > >If anyone has an itch to write an article for the newsletter about
the
> > > >Irish
> > > > >neighborhood in Indianapolis, I hope you will contact me.
> > > > >
> > > > >Barbara and Darlene, let me know if you are interested in
> > writing for the
> > > > >Newsletter. The site is in the process of being renovated and
> > the original
> > > > >Newsletter will be located at the site. I hope to have the
> > > > >entire renovation
> > > > >complete by the end of December, with a new issue to be
> > > > >posted, hopefully, by
> > > > >Christmas.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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In a message dated 12/5/2007 3:27:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I can't wait. My husband, who comes home today on Hospice, will be
thrilled. He is so proud of our Irish heritage.
Shirley
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Shirley:
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will enjoy.
I am working on getting the Premiere Issue that came out some time ago
online in a pdf format so everyone can download and print it. I believe it will
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and it will open in a pdf document to print or read online. It is 19 pages
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I can't wait. My husband, who comes home today on Hospice, will be thrilled. He is so proud of our Irish heritage.
Shirley
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Subject: [INMARION] Irish Everywhere
I am currently working on an issue for December that I hope to have out by
Christmas. One nice feature of the December issue will be an article on the
Cassidy Clan. I am also working on an article about the Irish Slaves that
were transported to Virgina to work in the tobacco fields and to Barbados to
work in the sugar cane fields. Pretty interesting material.
Also added is page for Irish Crafts & Gifts, if anyone is interested;
however, it is not necessary to order anything to receive the newsletter.
Also coming in the December issue will be Irish Festivals, Fairs, etc.
Thanks.
Denise
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I am currently working on an issue for December that I hope to have out by
Christmas. One nice feature of the December issue will be an article on the
Cassidy Clan. I am also working on an article about the Irish Slaves that
were transported to Virgina to work in the tobacco fields and to Barbados to
work in the sugar cane fields. Pretty interesting material.
Also added is page for Irish Crafts & Gifts, if anyone is interested;
however, it is not necessary to order anything to receive the newsletter.
Also coming in the December issue will be Irish Festivals, Fairs, etc.
Thanks.
Denise
Editor, The Irish Everywhere Newsletter
_www.irish-everywhere.com_ (http://www.irish-everywhere.com)
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How do I look someone up in the Indiana State Census record for 1913, 1919,
and 1931?
Name: Helen Keturiah Hobbs Winchester born 1850 Kansas and died Nov 1933 in
Browns Valley, Mongomery, Indiana.
thanks for the info
Nancy Gobble
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