Debbie:
Thanks for the explanation. After reading Bob's comments, I was totally confused
about what was going on here. Thanks for straightening it out for me (and others). Keep
up the good work. I live in Rush County but do more research in Jefferson than any other
counties. I applaud all the county coordinators for their efforts. I would love to do
something like this but don't have the time. Whomever takes on a project like this
needs to be devoted to it and keep on it. I am thankful to Ruth for her past work and
wish Sheila all the best. I will try to contribute more items to Sheila in the future. I
may do the research but feel that it belongs to everyone. I can't take my research
with me once I am dead. I would like for it to live on.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debby Beheler" <dbeheler(a)comcast.net
To:
INJEFFER(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [INJEFFER] INGenWeb - some answers
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:37:24 -0400
Larry,
Perhaps I can answer some of your questions.
Everything does not have to disappear when a new coordinator takes over.
Unfortunately, the change in coordinators is not always pleasant. Outgoing
coordinators do not always cooperate. Contributions to a county site are
the intellectual property of the submitter. So if the submitter refuses
permission to use the material on the new coordinator's site, these items
will not be included.
GenWeb by itself is not a proper name for the project. We are under the
umbrella of the USGenWeb Project; each state project is named according to
the 2-letter abbreviation, so the Indiana project is INGenWeb, Texas is
TXGenWeb, Georgia is GAGenWeb, etc.
All of us are unpaid volunteers. Some volunteers are more active than
others.
Each volunteer owns his or her own site. The project does not own the site.
We do have rules (see:
http://ingenweb.org/ingen_guidelines2005.htm), but we
cannot force someone to leave their work with the site when someone new
adopts it. Adherence to copyright laws is essential.
I believe that Ruth has removed the logos of the INGenWeb and USGenWeb
project from her site.
Debby Beheler
dbeheler(a)comcast.net
State Coordinator INGenWeb Project
http://www.ingenweb.org
Bob:
I am very confused about the working of the GenWeb sites. Why does
everything that was on the old Jefferson County site have to disappear when
a new coordinator takes over? The old site was one of the best that I have
ever seen ... and that was because of the Ruth, the old coordinator. She put
a lot into this site as well as yourself and others who contributed. Other
GenWeb sites have little because the coordinator of these sites are not
doing their job.
I was continually going to Ruth's Jefferson Co. site long after she stopped
doing the site. That information SHOULD remain for us to go to regardless of
the fact that someone new has taken over. The bad thing, of course, was that
with Ruth gone, we could see the old but nothing new was being added. I
wanted to add my Nelson Cemetery records but Ruth wasn't there to put them
on. Sheila now has it on both the Jefferson and Jennings county sites.
I applaud Sheila Kell for wanting to take over the Jefferson and Jennings
County sites. Finally, we are getting an active site with new information
being constantly added but it is going to take some time for Sheila to get
it built back up like it was. Let us remember that Ruth spent years putting
this in. Sheila is just getting started and, like the majority of the rest
of us, isn't getting paid to do genealogy. She has a life to live and can't
spend all her time on this.
What is GenWeb's policy? Are they to blame? It would seem to me that since
they owe this site, they would control what goes on it. I can't understand
why they would be agreeable to letting the old info just disappear like it
has. Or, does it take Ruth, the old coordinator, to agree to let Sheila use
it? It will take a long time to reenter everything. It seems to it could
just be copied and pasted from one site to another ... but I have never
hosted a website.
Sheila has some new records on her site that wasn't on Ruth's site but we
need BOTH. And I will contribute whatever I can; however, I don't have the
time to do much. But I agree that it SHOULD remain on the site if and when
someone new takes over. This is what I don't understand.
I did go to the old site this week and signed up like instructed but Ruth or
no one else has gotten back to me. I am hoping that Ruth has this old info
and will make it available to us again even if it ends up on her own website
and not GenWeb. But it would be nice to have everything on one site. What
really confuses me is that both the old and new are GenWeb. It isn't like we
are leaving GenWeb and going to
Ancestry.com.
Please enlighten me a little more on this. Do we need to complain to GenWeb
about this?
Larry
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