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ej
contact me through my hotmail addy. I'd love to talk with you and tell you all I know.
your cousin
Bill
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I don't have the obit, but I'm just writing to tell you that my great grandma and grandpa are Virginia and Thomas Shoptaw. Maybe we could help each other out just a little.
Coincidence!
See list of census reports found at:
http://myspot.neteze.com/~gadberry/database/census.html
Your Enos GADBERRY is show on the 1850 Greenie County List. Immediately
below his name, is my mystery woman HANNAH GADBERRY.
Probably no connection. Who ever went through the tremendous effort of
accumulating these names and other data, apparently erred in including the name
HANNAH GADBERRY. With the help of other researchers, it appears that this ladies
name is not to be found in any U. S. census report for 1850.
HFisher
Note that the word OHIO is shown as one or more given names of HANNAH'S
children. Also in the midst of children's names, the (surname) noun BEAUFORT is
found.
I believe my Enos Gadberry was born 1819 in North Carolina to Nathaniel Gadberry, but I don't have "official" documentation. Although, I monitor many mailing lists, I don't see very many requests for Gadberry's. I was glad to see your post. It gave me an opportunity to look into Enos and his family again.
Lori
In a message dated 12/17/2006 7:53:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lori1001(a)tds.net writes:
Although I do not have any information on Hannah Gadberry in 1850, I am
descended from Enos Gadberry and his wife, Mary Wright, who lived in Wright
Township, Greene County. Is Hannah connected to this family?
Lori
Thanks for responding. All of my Gadberrys seem to be in the Carolinas and
Mississippi. I have never found any close kin in the mid west.
But we are all kin to some degree.
There is a listing of all GADBERRYS, sorted by census year. HANNAH is on
the list, but apparently somebody erred including her.
Thanks again.
Harold
In a message dated 12/17/2006 4:02:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
maryp(a)theriver.com writes:
Perhaps Hannah may have lived in Greene County, Illinois rather than
Indiana since no one has been able to come up with a census posting
for her. My relatives, who have roots in Greene County IN moved to
Illinois circa 1855. One of the my great great uncles married a Sarah
Gadberry in Coles County, Illinois circa the 1890's. This is just a
thought.
Mary
Those researchers who have tried to find HANNAH GADBERRY tell me that she
isn't on the US 1850 census. They are all subscribers of Ancetery.Com, I
suppose. I gave mine up several years ago, but am tempted to go back. At my age
of 81, and 65 years of research behind me I keep hearing whispers saying "Why
bother?"
T^hanks for your interest.
Harold
Although I do not have any information on Hannah Gadberry in 1850, I am descended from Enos Gadberry and his wife, Mary Wright, who lived in Wright Township, Greene County. Is Hannah connected to this family?
Lori
In a message dated 12/16/2006 2:28:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jparkhst(a)cox.net writes:
Harold, Ancestry.com is easier now, than it used to be. Once in a while I
will look at the newspapers, that appear to have my ancestors, but my John
Ruth, ends up being Ruth Smith, (Plus all the other women named 'Ruth' and a
thousand "John somebody." One world tree is good, because it used to
connect you with other folks who were checking out the same families. Then,
they made it complicated, about two months ago. They will just not leave it
alone, and keep changing things, so it does not work, the way it used to.
But, I think I have it figured out now, but do not get the email addresses
of these folks who have done the "One World Tree". You have to subscribe to
that one. I have newspapers (and occasionally find someone with good info),
but not like I would like. Of course I have the census, but do not have the
international census. Sorry, But do help folks often, and that was my goal
for you. I have a lot of the CD's that Ancestry used to sell, and can look
to see if I can find Hannah there. I stopped buying them at number 44, as
they were usually 29.95 each, or sometimes there was a set for more. I have
found many families for other people, and have made some good connections to
distant relations. Of course, you have to check them all out, as these are
genealogies that other folks have done, and folks do make mistakes. Census
'SOURCE'S are one way of proving your family, and also some of the things
you send for, really help
Am sure you probably know all this, and can see why some would be
frustrated with Ancestry.com.
You asked if I felt I had mastered the full 'know how' on my
subscription. By stumbling and falling a lot, much earlier, now, I have
used it so much, I feel like I can find a lot more, than I did much earlier.
I am sure there are a lot of things I might not know, or understand, but
with what I do know, I have gotten a LOT of info, through Ancestry.com.
More than I ever found in the library. But, I am not aware of a lot of
stuff you can do at the library. AT least I am beyond looking at the Census
indexes for all the states for different years, and not being able to get
any further, without writing to LDS. I absolutely love just being able to
go to a lookup, and learning what I want to know. The wonderful part is
Ancestry, now has nearly everything indexed, so when you put in a name, up
will come how many names they have listed for that person. Then, you can
look through the names, and find one that is the correct age (date of birth)
and look to see if they fit. Sometimes, though, there are thousands, and
what a waste to look through them all. Depends on how anxious I am to find
them----- Knowing the location, helps. But, basically, I am very pleased
with my subscription to Ancestry. My husband usually hits the ceiling, when
I charge the credit card for another year. It was something like $175 last
year. And this time, I got immigration. And, if you know the census' well
enough, and see they were born in a foreign country, sometimes it will list
the date of their immigration, and NA, if they were nationalized. Where
those official records are though, is another question.
Do you know what age Hannah Gadberry was on the 1850 census, someone
told you of? At childbearing age, usually these women are remarried so
quickly, that they do not even make it to another census, before the name
change. Then, it is anyone's guess.
I am like you, I was trying so desperately to find a living relative to
"tell me something I had not found out for myself". Then, you found one,
who didn't know or care. Seems as though mine are all dead.
My only hope, is from a message board, I found someone looking for a
Sybilla Kirby. Wow, I thought to myself, that has to be a relative, as my
grandfather's sister, was named that!!!! She and I got in touch, and
exchanged what we each knew. Wonderful. Her mother is the still living,
but very elderly, and very private, so this cousin, will have to wait until
she dies, and can go through her stuff to learn anything. But, this cousin
I found , her g-grandmother was Sybilla Kirby, and Sybilla is my great aunt,
so we are a generation apart. Her mother has one sister still living, so
there is hope there. This cousin lives in Alaska, and I live in KS, but
email is wonderful.
I can sympathize with you on not being able to afford stamps, or the
long hard road to leaning anything about anyone. And, yep, I have looked at
microfilm like that, too. Tiring, and exhausting.
Check with the libraries in your area. Some libraries have
subscriptions
This was not my message--Joyce>>>>>> To ancestry.Com. Also the LDS Family
History Centers have access the
> Census records on ancestry.Com - both are free.
I will look through my indexes for Hannah Gadberry on CD, and see if I
can find her there. Are most of them from Mississippi?, or elsewhere? Will
get back to you. Joyce, 75 years old, so I have been at it a while.too.
Wichita, KS
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dover2(a)aol.com>
To: <ingreene(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [INGREENE
Thank you friend for your interesting letter. First, let me ask you direct.
Are you looking for GADBERRYS your self, or some other? If you are a
GADBERRY cousin, I would have asked you for your oldest family members. From
your second letter, I believe you are working on some other family.
The list of GADBERRY names that I saw, which contained HANNAH'S name in 1850,
stated that she was 53 years old.
I get so caught up in the excitement of this stuff that my spirits rise and
fall from day to day. Often at the age of 81, I vow to drop the hobby
altogether. Then about that time someone will find my name and addressed posted out
there, and they will tempt me greatly by giving me new information. As a rule
I have more facts than they have, and it is a joy for me to share this data.
I say: "Genealogy, like Christainity doesn't do much good if you don't
share it with everybody."
Can I be on the lookout for anybody for you? Unlike you (I suspect) my
talents and skills are very limited.
Harold F.
In a message dated 12/16/2006 4:25:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Spanky(a)mlode.com writes:
I too could not find your Hannah
Judy
Thanks friend, for trying.
H Fisher
Harold, Ancestry.com is easier now, than it used to be. Once in a while I
will look at the newspapers, that appear to have my ancestors, but my John
Ruth, ends up being Ruth Smith, (Plus all the other women named 'Ruth' and a
thousand "John somebody." One world tree is good, because it used to
connect you with other folks who were checking out the same families. Then,
they made it complicated, about two months ago. They will just not leave it
alone, and keep changing things, so it does not work, the way it used to.
But, I think I have it figured out now, but do not get the email addresses
of these folks who have done the "One World Tree". You have to subscribe to
that one. I have newspapers (and occasionally find someone with good info),
but not like I would like. Of course I have the census, but do not have the
international census. Sorry, But do help folks often, and that was my goal
for you. I have a lot of the CD's that Ancestry used to sell, and can look
to see if I can find Hannah there. I stopped buying them at number 44, as
they were usually 29.95 each, or sometimes there was a set for more. I have
found many families for other people, and have made some good connections to
distant relations. Of course, you have to check them all out, as these are
genealogies that other folks have done, and folks do make mistakes. Census
'SOURCE'S are one way of proving your family, and also some of the things
you send for, really help
Am sure you probably know all this, and can see why some would be
frustrated with Ancestry.com.
You asked if I felt I had mastered the full 'know how' on my
subscription. By stumbling and falling a lot, much earlier, now, I have
used it so much, I feel like I can find a lot more, than I did much earlier.
I am sure there are a lot of things I might not know, or understand, but
with what I do know, I have gotten a LOT of info, through Ancestry.com.
More than I ever found in the library. But, I am not aware of a lot of
stuff you can do at the library. AT least I am beyond looking at the Census
indexes for all the states for different years, and not being able to get
any further, without writing to LDS. I absolutely love just being able to
go to a lookup, and learning what I want to know. The wonderful part is
Ancestry, now has nearly everything indexed, so when you put in a name, up
will come how many names they have listed for that person. Then, you can
look through the names, and find one that is the correct age (date of birth)
and look to see if they fit. Sometimes, though, there are thousands, and
what a waste to look through them all. Depends on how anxious I am to find
them----- Knowing the location, helps. But, basically, I am very pleased
with my subscription to Ancestry. My husband usually hits the ceiling, when
I charge the credit card for another year. It was something like $175 last
year. And this time, I got immigration. And, if you know the census' well
enough, and see they were born in a foreign country, sometimes it will list
the date of their immigration, and NA, if they were nationalized. Where
those official records are though, is another question.
Do you know what age Hannah Gadberry was on the 1850 census, someone
told you of? At childbearing age, usually these women are remarried so
quickly, that they do not even make it to another census, before the name
change. Then, it is anyone's guess.
I am like you, I was trying so desperately to find a living relative to
"tell me something I had not found out for myself". Then, you found one,
who didn't know or care. Seems as though mine are all dead.
My only hope, is from a message board, I found someone looking for a
Sybilla Kirby. Wow, I thought to myself, that has to be a relative, as my
grandfather's sister, was named that!!!! She and I got in touch, and
exchanged what we each knew. Wonderful. Her mother is the still living,
but very elderly, and very private, so this cousin, will have to wait until
she dies, and can go through her stuff to learn anything. But, this cousin
I found , her g-grandmother was Sybilla Kirby, and Sybilla is my great aunt,
so we are a generation apart. Her mother has one sister still living, so
there is hope there. This cousin lives in Alaska, and I live in KS, but
email is wonderful.
I can sympathize with you on not being able to afford stamps, or the
long hard road to leaning anything about anyone. And, yep, I have looked at
microfilm like that, too. Tiring, and exhausting.
Check with the libraries in your area. Some libraries have
subscriptions
This was not my message--Joyce>>>>>> To ancestry.Com. Also the LDS Family
History Centers have access the
> Census records on ancestry.Com - both are free.
I will look through my indexes for Hannah Gadberry on CD, and see if I
can find her there. Are most of them from Mississippi?, or elsewhere? Will
get back to you. Joyce, 75 years old, so I have been at it a while.too.
Wichita, KS
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dover2(a)aol.com>
To: <ingreene(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [INGREENE] GADBERRY Family Need look-up
> In a message dated 12/16/2006 11:38:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> gmfx(a)homexpressway.net writes:
> Check with the libraries in your area. Some libraries have subscriptions
> To ancestry.Com. Also the LDS Family History Centers have access the
> Census records on ancestry.Com - both are free.
> Thanks for this good advice, but I am so shorted tempered that I would
> rather
> pay the $150 or $175 per year and not have to go hunt up a free one. I
> am
> sure that our poverty stricken library doesn't subscribe, and an LDS
> Center is
> 45 miles away.
>
> Do you feel that your have 'mastered the full know how on your
> subscription.'
> By that I mean are you working with only 10% of the capability because you
> are not aware of the other 90%?
>
> I am still remembering the days of my poverty, when I couldn't afford to
> buy
> a roll of 3 cent stamps, or a total of $3. I have been into researching
> for
> 65 years, and I came through the hard days of material. For instance I
> can
> remember that microfilm, say on the State of Mississippi, was separated by
> Counties, but then a user had to roll the film in and look at every entry
> in the
> hope of spotting a name.
>
> Now you are able to input HANNAH GADBERRY into the system and look in all
> 50
> states at one time.
>
> Oddly, I have had the (erroneous) feeling that I made more progress in the
> lean days, than I have since being on the computer for 11 years.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Harold Fisher
> Yazoo City, Mississippi
>
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In a message dated 12/16/2006 11:38:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
gmfx(a)homexpressway.net writes:
Check with the libraries in your area. Some libraries have subscriptions
To ancestry.Com. Also the LDS Family History Centers have access the
Census records on ancestry.Com - both are free.
Thanks for this good advice, but I am so shorted tempered that I would rather
pay the $150 or $175 per year and not have to go hunt up a free one. I am
sure that our poverty stricken library doesn't subscribe, and an LDS Center is
45 miles away.
Do you feel that your have 'mastered the full know how on your subscription.'
By that I mean are you working with only 10% of the capability because you
are not aware of the other 90%?
I am still remembering the days of my poverty, when I couldn't afford to buy
a roll of 3 cent stamps, or a total of $3. I have been into researching for
65 years, and I came through the hard days of material. For instance I can
remember that microfilm, say on the State of Mississippi, was separated by
Counties, but then a user had to roll the film in and look at every entry in the
hope of spotting a name.
Now you are able to input HANNAH GADBERRY into the system and look in all 50
states at one time.
Oddly, I have had the (erroneous) feeling that I made more progress in the
lean days, than I have since being on the computer for 11 years.
Thanks for your help
Harold Fisher
Yazoo City, Mississippi
In a message dated 12/16/2006 9:41:46 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jparkhst(a)cox.net writes:
It was Ancestry.com. Rather expensive, but very helpful. Have used it for
many years, and those census' are wonderful to learn just what you were
wanting. Sorry, no Hannah. Joyce
I subscribed for years, but it is my fault that I never 'read the direction'
on using the thing. In the early days just as they put census reports on, I
drove myself crazy trying to move those things around on the screme. I hear it
is easier now.
Thanks again for your help.
Harold Fisher
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i would like to know who posted this web site?
this is my great-great grandfather
i would appreciate a reply
thank you
In a message dated 12/16/2006 9:18:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jparkhst(a)cox.net writes:
I just looked again, and did not find a Hannah Gadberry, in the U.S., in
1850, at all.
Thank you friend. I am sorry that I sent you on a wild goose chase.
May I ask where you found a USA-wide listing of every 1850 inhabitant? Must
have been with Ancestry.com?
Gratefully
Harold C. Fisher
Yazoo City, Mississippi
In a message dated 12/16/2006 5:46:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jparkhst(a)cox.net writes:
I did not find an indexed Hannah Gadberry, on the 1850 Greene co., IN
census, unless the writing was so poor, that it did not get listed as such.
For a woman old enough to have children, I did find an Adaline who was 23, a
Mary who was 24, a Elizabeth (she has a husband) who was 50,and a Nancy who
was 20. Are you sure it was Hannah?
Thank you for your effort friend.
I am looking at a GADBERRY LIST,(other than a census index) and I see:
HANNAH GADBERRY & three children, counted in Greene County, IN in 1850
She was born in VA.
There could be an error in this listing.
Thanks in any case
In the 1850 census of Greene County, IN, there is listed a head of the
household HANNAH GADBERRY and her three children.
If someone has access to this census, we would greatly appreciate a lookup
which will give us the chalderns' ages and names.
Gratefully
HFisher
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My late husband has a William Loud ancestry.
I have found alot, however there were many I have found that do not tie in to the NH, Maine Lowds, I have seen the Jeremiah name in some of my research but would have to go back through it.
Ours (The 1st) William was born 1666 in Lancaster England
In 1708 his son? or grandson William was granted land in NH (no proof yet) He had a son Joseph, he a son Joseph Jr., he a son Richard, he a son Charles, He Frank (my husbands grandfather), he a son Maurice (my husbands father) my husband was Harland Lowd he passed away Nov. 3, 2002. I am doing a family search for my son Harley M. Lowd. The Surname changed in my research from Loud to Lowd approx. 1890. I love doing this. I'll see what I can find on your Jeremiah.
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I have a bit of a problem here...
I have 2 Mary F. Mansfields in my data.
1st born 11 jan 1827 Jackson Twp., Greene Co., Indiana died 29 jan 1904 buried in Ashcraft Cemetery, Greene Co., Indiana.
She married Edington, Jackson, Crowe and Pugh.
2nd born 11 jan 1831 in Ohio the daughter of Jacob Mansfield Sr and Christina (King) Mansfield.
Are these two people the same person? It is quite possible that I have them duplicated and not merged. If so, which are the correct dates of birth?