Ah, just think of all the libraries that will be inundated with family trees
as we pass on. A morbid thought. When we die does our tree die or are we
just a leaf falling from that tree?
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From: <carol.a.collins(a)comcast.net>
To: <indubois(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller input
One place I always think of (and will give everything if no one wants
it)
is the Allen Co. Public Library. They have quite a collection of
individual's papers and are delighted to receive them.
Carol Huebner Collins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Evans" <ware(a)fuse.net>
To: indubois(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:49:30 PM
Subject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller input
Joyce,
Something just popped in my head. I wonder if your local college might be
interested. I know a few years ago the Northern Kentucky University got
really excited about making copies of my photos, slides and movie film I
made while in Vietnam. I'll have to check with the NKU Library to see if
they would be interested.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce" <jam102845(a)aol.com>
To: <indubois(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller input
>
> Mike
>
> Thank you. I've also wondered what would become of my work once I'm gone,
> since nobody in my family seems interested.
>
> Joyce (Winegar) Marlow
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Evans <ware(a)fuse.net>
> To: indubois <indubois(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 5:26 pm
> Subject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller input
>
>
> Sharon,
> Having watched this saga of the Schiller Family and your reply a thought
> ccured to me. It has nothing to do with this subject though.
> What happens to all your work after you are gone, as in passed on ?
> This question popped in my mind sometime back when I realized no one in
> my
> amily has shown any inclination to pick up where I have left off. Sooooo
> I
> ontacted Bridget Stiker who is the head of the Family History at the
> ibrary.
> If I go first Maggie is to turn everything over to Bridget. Bridget said
> she
> ill go through my own family and send the trees within my tree to the
> ibraries that can use the info. I would imagine the Kentucky Historical
> ociety will get a copy also.
> Just a thought, a morbid one though. Hehehe.
> Maybe one of my Grandchildren will take up the torch later on in life.
> Mike
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> rom: "Skenn63523" <skenn63523(a)aol.com>
> o: <indubois(a)rootsweb.com>
> ent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:31 PM
> ubject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller input
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I read with interest these e-mails regarding the Schiller/Wirsing family.
> My parents, Robert and Elfrieda (nee Hemmerlein) Heeke were born on farms
> outside the town of Dubois, Dubois County, Indiana - both lived there
> until the late 1930s. Both worked in Indpls, (abt 1937-1940) before
> returning to St. Raphael's to be married in 1940. Lived the rest of
> their
> lives in Indpls.
>
> My name is Sharon (Heeke) Kennedy, and I live in the suburb of
> Brownsburg/outside Indpls. I have been doing genealogy research since Feb
> 1977, and all of my lines are related to the Dubois, Jasper, Celestine,
> Schnellville, area names.
>
> Names -- father/Heeke; Neuhausel; Prechtel; Wassing; Brenges;
> mother/Hemmerlein; Dornhoefer; Vogel; Freyberger; Schiller; Hacker;
>
> I have always found the name Wirsing interesting -- as my gr grandmother
> was Philomena Wassing Heeke's (b. 1851) Her mother (Adelheide
> Brenges/Prenges) was married to Adolph Wassing. Adolph died in 1853, and
> is noted in St. Joseph's Catholic Church records. I've seen several
> spelling variations in the records. He was living in Louisville, KY in
> the 1850 census. There was very little information on him in Jasper
> records. Adelheide then married Henry Strotmann, and I have those
> details, of which, Henry helped raise Philomena. She married Bernard
> Heeke in 1870 - and they were wed until her death in 1913.
>
> I've wondered if the name Wirsing was a variation on Wassing. Same with
> my
> Doernhoefer line/and the Danhafers of that area. With the language
> barriers/spellings, I thought they may be the same family line?
>
> ======================
> I have researched the Schiller line off-on for years, but not a lot in
> recent times. (2 binders filled with doc's, group sheets) I have
> many
> copies of Hill Church records, that I've went thru for info early on. In
> the 80s, I was privleged to have someone in Germany do research and
> provide me with lineage sheets on the SCHILLER family my mother descends
> from --- and related lines. Those records go back to the 1500's and are
> very interesting. Each name is listed in a paragraph, with misc.,
> notations, including the man's line of work.
>
> Everything I have found on the Schiller's relates to MISTELBACH, BAVARIA.
> This is a small village/town just south of Bayreuth. I visited the area
> on
> a Cosmos tour in 1992 --- but was not able to stop in this village.
> :-( The Hemmerleins were from Haag/Sahrmuhl by Haag. My German
> researcher on the Hemmerleins told me about the area --- when she visited
> Haag, and later several archives in Bavaria. (LDS does not have the
> church records of this area -- however, I was told by my researcher that
> some of that area's records are on micofiche at the Bayreuth
> Archives/where she got my Hemmerlein emigration records.)
>
> John Schiller's Will is dated Sept 1917. (assume this is the person b.
> 1834?) Book 6, page 616. I do question the name Wittelsbach -- and
> believe it could in fact be Mistelbach? I didn't find Wittelsbach in my
> German atlas.
>
> Katharine (Hacker) Schiller was married to Thomas Schott first, and
> several of the children in the census records belonged to him. He died
> by drowning in 1854/after Katharine had divorced him. Children:
> John/George.
> Then she married John Schiller (census indicates he was b. 1834.
>
> There is a John Schiller, Columbia twsp; b. abt 1810 in the 1880
> census,
> noting he was 70, and living with John L. Schiller, wife, Eve (Maier).
> This John Schiller is noted as the "father." This coincides with the
> John
> L. Schiller I found in the records/child of Johann Schiller/Marg.
> Dornhofer, b. abt 1850 - which is MY line.
>
> After doing updates on Ancestry today for various census records -- my
> conclusion is these 3 Schillers are related to each other. Ancestry has
> a
> much better view of records than they did some years ago when I worked on
> this line more intensely.
>
> Not living in the Dubois/Jasper area -- does create problems when I wish
> to look at various records for my family!
>
>
>
> My early line searched --- Johann Schiller, b. Sept 12, 1809, Mistelbach,
> Bavaria; (he was a SHOEMAKER) He died Jan 24, 1895, Dubois. Married
> Margaretha Dörnhofer, Dec 3, 1837 in Mistelbach. She died in 1868 near
> Dubois; His Father: Matthaus Schiller, Mother Eva Rosina Bauer.
>
> Margaretha Dörnhofer b. July 10, 1810, Geisenreuth, Bavaria. Died April
> 22, 1868 near Dubois, Dubois County, Indiana. Father: Johann
> Dörnhoefer. Children of Johann and Margaretha I have listed are:
> Margaretha, b. 1841 - my ancestor; Anna, b. 1844; John L, b. abt 1850;
> Margaret, b. 1853; and Catherine, b. 1858.
>
> Johann and Margaretha's dau Margaretha Schiller, b. May 26, 1841, d. 1926
> was my gr grandmother, and married Johann Lorenz Hemmerlein in 1862.
> (buried at Hill Church) My mother, Elfrieda, was the dau of Lawrence
> Hemmerlein (b. 1871, mar. Margaretha Freyberger). Lawrence, who lived
> on
> the Hemmerlein farm; later in Dubois; and later years with his son, Ed in
> Sketterville, died in 1967 at age 96.
>
> I would appreciate any comments on these families, and my conclusion of
> the Schiller relationships!
>
> Thanks, Sharon (Heeke) Kennedy
> Brownsburg, Indiana
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gkeusch <gkeusch(a)psci.net>
> To: indubois <indubois(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:15 am
> Subject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller
>
>
> Hi Donna,
> Thanks so much for your info. I was in the library reading the obits
> (from what I could find) on Mary's siblings. The earliest I found
> printed
> was that of John Schiller (Mary's father) and it listed his living
> children.
> Mary was not included. John Schiller died Feb 14, 1924-- I have his
> obit
> pasted below. Yes, I have been to the Denbo Cem. It is all covered
> with little ivy plants and is surrounded by woods. I took David
> Wirsing's gr-gr-gr grandson from CA back there. Very, very few stones
> are
> visible. David and Agnes's dau, Caroline, has a stone that is barely
> visible. There was no stone for David, but I did find a news article
> that
> he was the last person to be buried at Denbo (Sept 22, 1884). That
> 1905
> death date you have-- would that possibly be for the daughter Mary
> Schiller
> Wirsing? I would love to see the info you have on the 1905 death.
> Also, I have the news articles on Louis and his father David-- I can
> email
> them to you if you are interested. I think the prodigy email is
> correct?
> That is what came with this email. I really feel that Louis and Mary
> left
> the area about 1891 as a news article in the Jasper Courier states he
> locked
> up his blacksmilth shop and has skipped out-- no one knows where. And
> there was a sheriff's sale on Feb 5, 1892 on Louis's property in
> Haysville.
> Below is the obit on John Schiller-- he is in Harbison Twp, Dubois
> CO in the 1860, 1880, 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses. His wife died Aug
> 26, 1896. Thanks. Helen
>
> Death Claims John Schiller, Pioneer Shoemaker of Dubois, Oldest Man
> called
> Home
> John Schiller, the oldest man in Harbison Twp, died at the home of
> his son, Andrew Shiller, of dubois, Thurs, Feb 14, 1924. Death was due
> to
> the infirmities of old age. Mr. Schiller was born in Wittelsbach,
> Bavaria, Germany, May 25, 1834. At the age of 16 he came to American
> with
> his parents who located at Haysville. In 1855 John Schiller and Mrs.
> Katharine Schott were united in marriage. Sixteen children were born to
> this union, five of whom preceded their father in death. The good wife
> and
> helpmate died twenty seven years ago.
> For many years this estimable gentleman made his home with his
> daughter, Mrs. Barbara Angerer but the last few years lived with the son
> from which home he was called to his reward at the age of 89 yrs, 8 mos
> and
> 29 da. The following children survive: John, Andrew, George, and
> Eberhardt Schiller; Mesdames Elizabeth Angerer, Maggie Kalb, Anna
> Kress,
> Barbara Angerer, Kathrine Britten, Dora Jones, and Christine Gardner.
> An
> aged brother, John L. Schiller, four sisters, mesdames Elizabeth
> Liichauer,
> Margaret Hemmerlein, Anna Beck and maggie kalb; 41 grandchildren, 42
> great-grand-children; six sons-in-law and three daus-in-law; and a host
> of
> relatives and friends are left, also to mourn his demise.
> In his younger days, Mr. Schiller adapter himself to music and
> becams a skillful clarinetist. Many of our older citizens can well
> remember those days and can distinguish the tunes he often played. Mr.
> Schiller was a shoe maker and followed his trade until a few years ago
> when
> his age forced him to retire. He was the oldest man in Harbison twp,
> and
> was awarded the Herald cane in the Herald Senority Contest last spring.
> He was a member of St. Peter's church at Dubois (and one of its
> founders), under whose auspices the funeral was held Sat afternoon at 2
> p.m.. The Rev G. F. Kitterer, pastor of the church, officiated. The
> funeral was one of the largest ever held in Dubois.
> Daily Herald, Fri, Feb 22, 1924, front page
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: indubois-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> [mailto:indubois-bounces@rootsweb.com]
> On Behalf Of DONNA NUNNALLY
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:05 PM
> To: indubois(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller
>
> I also can't find Louis Wirsing after the 1880 census. Using info found
> online I find Louis wife was Mary Schiller. She was the daughter of John
> Schiller who died on January 24, 1905 in Dubois Co. Indiana. Maybe his
> obituary would tell where his daughter Mary Wirsing was living. By the
> way
> in the 1880 census they were living next to my great Grandparents Andrew
> &
> Catherine Brosmer. Their daughter Mary being my Grandma. Also on the same
> page was Andrew & Catherine Neihisel. They owned the farm where the Denbo
> cemetery is on. They sold to my great Uncle Frank Nordhoff. My
> grandparents
> Tony & Helen Nordhoff moved there also to raise their family. After their
> deaths the farm was bought by their daughter Rosie & Bob Gutgsell. Uncle
> Bob
> died this year. Their son lives on this farm. I have been up to this
> cemetery years ago. I think there might be still some stones there. Have
> you
> ever been there? If you need anything I can help you with let me know.
> Good
> Luck with your search, Donna
>
> --- On Mon, 12/24/12, gkeusch(a)psci.net <gkeusch(a)psci.net> wrote:
>
> From: gkeusch(a)psci.net <gkeusch(a)psci.net>
> Subject: [INDUBOIS] wirsing-schiller
> To: Indubois-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Monday, December 24, 2012, 7:48 AM
>
> I am wanting any info on Louis Wirsing
> (lived at Schnellville) and Mary
> Schiller, his wife-married Dec 26, 1889 in Dubois CO. Louis was a
> brother to Amelia Wirsing who married John Zimmerman (part of my
> Zimmerman-Keusch line). Louis belonged to David Christian Wirsing
> and
> Agnes (nee Koellner) Barkhaus. They were Lutheran. David and
> family
> lived at Schnellville where he was a blacksmith. David was the last
> burial in Sept 22, 1884 in the Denbo Cem, located on the Bob Gutgsell
> farm.
> Agnes is buried at St. Peter's UCC cem in Huff Twp, Spencer CO. I
> have
> all the children of David and Agnes accounted for except for Louis. Due
> to
> problems with the law, he and Mary left Dubois County by 1900-at least I
> think they did.
>
> Thanks for any info regarding this. Helen Zuber Keusch
>
>
>
>
> family lines of Zuber, Land, Crabtree, Goodart (Gutekunst), Anthis,
> Bangert,
> Edwards, Bennett, Eakins, Handley, Ezell, Sandefur, Ford, Melton--my
> lines;
> Keusch, Zimmerman, Burger, Hurst, Hopf, Ackerman, Schitter/Schuetter,
> Mehringer, Becher, Baumert, Schmitt, Hochgesang--hubby's lines
>
>
>
>
>
>
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