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My Gt Gt Grandfather was Samuel Foxen B3/7/1843 married Mary Ann Agnes Rozier B1849 they married 26/7/1865 St Andrews Church,
Madras. Samuel Foxen was Ann Amelia Foxen's brother. Thank you for the news about the Scott and Hudson boy's being cousins. If
you have anymore information please contact me directly on my email address. Are we related?
I am a member of My Heritage.
Does anybody know anything about Benjamin Hudson 1823-1896, a portrait
painter, who was working in Calcutta 1854-1862. I have found some of his
paintings on the internet but very few biographical details. He was born in
Yorkshire, the son of a Wesleyan Methodist minister . In 1856 while in India
he married a young widow Agnes Moriarty nee Stewart and they had 2 children
Herbert bn 1857 and Agnes bn 1859. In 1864, back in the UK, Benjamin filed
for divorce because of Agnes's adultery with Francis Barrow 1827-1887, a
solicitor who was in a legal partnership with WDH Oehme of London and
Calcutta. In 1866 Benjamin remarried at Sculcoates in Yorkshire to Susanna
Anne Willows 1829-1912.
One of Benjamin's sisters Hannah Maria 1815-1865, who married Richard Hardey
, was also a portrait painter and another sister Amelia 1808-1881 married a
James Taylor and was the mother of the Rev James Taylor 1832-1905 , a famous
missionary and founder of the China Inland Mission.
I have been on this list for many years and have found it to be of enormous
value and I am very disappointed to see it end. Thank you to Ian for all
your hard work on the list and thanks to everyone on the list who
Actually Irene, I see you are tracing a family named Foxen?
Would your Foxen family include Ann Amelia Foxen, married Thomas Hudson and
her sister Clara Foxen, married John Hayes Scott.
John Hayes Scott was Thomas Hudson's cousin?
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 08:30:40 +0000
From: Irene Warbrick <irenewarbrick(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [INDIA] Tracing MacIntyre's, Foxen, Webber, Jones, Utton,
Godfrey, Rozier and Tennant.
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I would like to thank everyone who contributed to the list. Ian you have
done a great job as administrator also you helped me with Look Ups a long
I have managed to trace some of my family. Also thank you Hilda in NZ as you
helped me when I first started on the list.
Best wishes to everyone in tracing their family in India.
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I am in search of a captain Swindell who would have died in Calcutta in the
course of the XIXth century. He would have had two girls, Winifred Marjorie
and Leila and a boy, John. Would a member of this list know more about him?
Regards to all.
Jean-Louis Douyère (France)
I would like to thank everyone who contributed to the list. Ian you have done a great job as administrator also you helped me with
Look Ups a long time ago.
I have managed to trace some of my family. Also thank you Hilda in NZ as you helped me when I first started
on the list.
Best wishes to everyone in tracing their family in India.
In an email of 11/1/20, I mentioned two references to the "St.John"
surname in the book "Merchant Prince".
This same book also mentions William Grice, Colonel of the Calcutta
Light Horse and
the exploit of these many retired Light Horsemen of raiding, with
German vessels in Marmagoa harbour which was neutral during WW2.
This very interesting episode resulted in a book by James Lesor titled
Party" and the movie "Sea Wolves". And am sure you would know about this.
On 11/01/2020 3:57 PM, Kathy Wardwell via INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ wrote:
> Thinking of all of you in Australia. I’m in California and we certainly understand the devastation of wild fires..terrifying.
> I am a reader of the list hoping for someday a mention of my mothers family, Saint and GRICE. I will certainly follow the list wherever it might go.
> Thank you for all the hard work’
> Kathy wardwell
>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Lindsay Graham<LDGraham(a)aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> I agree with everything Gordon has said -- and, like Gordon, although I'm a bit of a sleeper, I do read every post.
>> I'm in several other email lists that have migrated from Rootsweb or Yahoo to Groups.io, and it all seems to be working well.
>> Lindsay Graham
>> Canberra, Australia
>>> On 11/1/20 0742, Gordon Barlow wrote:
>>> Harshoo. If you really don't mind doing it, then I thank you and wish you well. It's very kind of you to offer us this chance to continue. I've taken enormous pleasure from being on this list (and the one before, too!). I've been a bit of a sleeper lately, but I assure you I've read every post, and will be delighted to read all future ones.
>>> So... You have my vote in favour. If you do transfer to the new group, we will all continue to be in debt to you for years to come.
>>> Gordon Barlow, with family members in India from 1784 till 1946, off and on.
>>> Please do let me know if you want me to migrate to groups.io.
>>> --- Harshawardhan Nimkhedkar
>>> (Soon-to-be-a functus officio) Administrator
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I recently looked in the January 2020 Rootsweb India List Archive, and it is apparent that I have only received at the most about 20% of the number of the emails sent recently from the List
Ruth in Brum in a post (which I did not receive as an email)
commented about the Rootsweb List archives generally and that there appeared to be blanks in some months. It is an unfortunate fact that when the Rootsweb archives moved a couple of years ago to a new computer platform ( I think for security reasons) there were definitely some past posts that disappeared for ever. I think however the majority of the India List posts were preserved, and can be accessed by Searching the archive, (although the Search I believe is not as good as under the previous platform).
I think the problem has been that Ancestry which now runs the Rootsweb Mailing Lists (acquired in 2000) was has not been prepared to spend the necessary money on the Mailing Lists and over the years there have been many problems with messages to and from the List, and archiving of these posts.
Ancestry currently provides an India Message Board which will continue after the India List ceases. You don’t need to be an Ancestry subscriber, but you do need to register to post.
As mentioned in other posts there is the FIBIS run British India Family History Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1724297227862786
As I mentioned in an earlier email, many thank to Ian for all the work he has done running the List for many years and without whose efforts the List may have closed years ago.
Good luck to anyone who wants to start up another group, or transfer the List to another platform, but I think that would require a lot of commitment, work and money and technical knowledge about issues such as security and privacy. No doubt these factors have influenced Ancestry’s withdrawal.
These past few years haven’t seen my research progress far at all. But I’ve still been an avid reader of the emails each day. And I still see some of the ‘old’ listers from the past. It’s a connection which I would feel very sad to lose. So please do keep it going in as close a format to what it has been for all these years. Is .io the way to go?
Many thanks to our faithful and hardworking administrators on this List and the Raj List over the years.
Best wishes to all our Listers.
Regarding the FIBIS group on Facebook, you would need to be a facebook user first and then use the search box to find the group which is titled "British India Family History". Obviously facebook is not going to suit everybody.
Groups.io looks like a good option, though probably needs someone to set it up and do some admin.
Many thanks to Ian for all his hard work and dedication over the years and to all the members who've shared information,
With best wishes
I am grateful to all the generous India List members who over the years
have made their own research and expertise available to people like me, and
especially to Ian for administering the list. I hope we can continue to
share and contribute to each other through other sites, such as FIBIS.
The India List will be much missed.
In "The Tiger Kills" (pub.1944), under the chapter "Awards", is listed:-
M.C. ) Major W.R. Wemyss (The Frontier Force Rifles)
O.B.E. Lieut.- Colonel F.H.Skinner (19th Hyderabad Regt.)
These may or may not be relevant.
You have been doing a tremendous and much appreciated job for many
years. As someone has already said, this list would not exist without
Without this list I would not have found living family with whom I am
still in touch. Meeting them led me to be the first in my family to
actually visit India in 2000! That also led to me meeting the lovely
India list friends I had made by chatting on email - often asking
'silly' questions which were answered so patiently, and enabled me to
understand so much about the life my ancestors had lived, and why/how
they had gone to India.
Do you have any ideas about what we can do after the 2nd of March?
There have been various comments made on other lists.
It seems to come down to a choice between Facebook - not liked by many
people because of their collection of data although I understand FIBIS
have a successful group on there: io which gets a thumbs up from those
who already use it, particularly liked as it accepts images, photos
etc but I gather costs some money to set up or run or both: or Google
groups which are also liked by those who use them, images can be
posted and the groups have the added benefit of being free -
The time between now and the 2nd of March is short. I have spent a
little time mooching round a few Rootsweb list archives. I think there
are blanks in that some months have merely a couple of messages, and
surely there were more? It is noticeable that there are none at all
for this month of January when I looked yesterday!
I used to save questions and answers I found useful on my old
computer, as I downloaded them at the time, will they be safe do you
think? I ask because of what happened a couple of years ago....
Here in the UK, my provider changed hands. EE bought Orange and
assured their new customers that they would continue all support for
emails etc. Of course they didn't, but I only found out about it by
accident. EE had given a couple of months to save our emails and
contacts details but suddenly EE turned off the server where these
were stored. After complaints it was turned back on for a short time
but people who hadn't downloaded them from the online website had
great difficulties downloading them and most were lost when the thing
was turned off forever!
The message you quoted said the 'Administrators may save the emails in
their list prior to March 2nd. ' - but not how or to where.
Sorry for the length of this. I think we are all hoping 'something'
will happen, and we will move seamlessly to another situation and life
will continue as it did before:-) That would be nice:-))
Greetings to all old India list members:-)
Ruth in Brum (Birmingham, England)
While lamenting the loss of a valuable resource tool I too second the
tributes to Ian Poyntz's whose sterling service kept us all on track.
Leslie in Penang,
Fourth Presidency of India
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 12:58, Wendy Smith <wendy(a)kcsmith.com.au> wrote:
> That sounds like a real pity having just discovered the India lists
> Regards, Wendy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Finding Roots via INDIA <india(a)rootsweb.com>
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> To: india(a)rootsweb.com
> Cc: Finding Roots <findingroots(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [INDIA] Re: RootsWeb Mailing Lists
> Thank you Ian for your hard work.
> Hopefully new discoveries can be made in the future on different platforms.
> On Wednesday, 8 January 2020, 11:23:50 GMT, Vanya Orr <
> orrvanya(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ian for the years of dedication and the treasures and aha moments
> so many people must have found on the site. Blessings and go well..
> Landline: 0044(0)1239 820 598
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Ian Poyntz <ian.poyntz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > *Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb
> > will be discontinued.*
> > Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept
> > incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be
> > available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an
> archival state.
> > Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd.
> > After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable
> > on RootsWeb.
> > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards
> > are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community.
> > Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered
> > Ian Poyntz
> > List Admin
> > *ian.poyntz(a)gmail.com <ian.poyntz(a)gmail.com>*
> > +1 281 650 3259
> > T
Re: Rootsweb Mailing Lists
I belong to the FIBIS group on facebook which is probably very similar to
this, often with pictures, also most enjoyable, and people get lots of help
with their research. Here is the link:
Dear list.This is sad news losing contact with such knowledgeable, kind, generous people. I always look forward to mail from this list. What can be done?Maybe this would be a good time for all of us to use FIBIS I have not used for a long time. They do have a list or forum not sure how it works though.Happy New Year to all. CherylSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
*Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will
Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming
emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to
list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state.
Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After
that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on
As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a
great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message
boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account.
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