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I'm hoping this message will get to this list.
I have a 2x great grandfather who is listed as being a half pay bugler, along with maybe his brother. This information was from a friend in England who very kindly went to the British Library for me. My friend has no idea about British India, and cannot answer my questions. I'm very grateful for any information.
In 1847, my 2x great grandfather is listed as being a half pay bugler at the age of 15. The next column says, Bangalore, then India, and then 'Aden'. I've looked up Aden, and it seems it was a colony of England from 1839. He joins up up as a gunner with the 1st Battalion and later joins the Sappers and Miners, only to die in 1857.
Why would a 15 year old be away from his parents? Where were his parents?
I am in need of help in tracing the wife of Alfred Thornton Wilson, who was an older brother of my great grandfather, Arthur Ross Wilson (1848-1923). The couple were married in Calcutta in what appears to be an Anglican church in 1872. She is shown as the daughter of George Williams. They went on to have a family of five children some baptized in Anglican churches and some in Roman Catholic ones. She, however, seems to have died a catholic. Her father from what I can find on line from Thacker’s was a hotelier. Until I can get to London and the BL later this year I can make no further progress on the Williams. My hunch is that the were Eurasian. I have no evidence of that though. Can anyone help me?
It was indeed sad news; I received a message from Sylvia's daughter
Celia, late on Tuesday that her mother had 'left this earth and gone to
heaven this evening'.
I first met Sylvia approximately 15 years ago after I had joined the
India List and later FIBIS. Sylvia came to Melbourne and a small group
of us met up for coffee
and a chat and compared our interests in Indian research.
Sylvia came down to Melbourne two or three times after that; to talk at
the GSV and one year with a group of SAG members interested in using our
and libraries for research After I became involved in FIBIS we attended
the FIBIS conference in the UK, AFFHO Congress in Canberra in 2015,
travelled to SA for an Unlock the
past expo, took part in the NSW family history weekend and recently and
our last meeting manned the FIBIS stand at Congress 2018 in Sydney. We
had a great catch up
during those three days, however she was much frailer but determined to
carry on and enjoy being in Sydney, meeting up with old friends and
Sylvia was a mentor for me on researching in British India, she was a
fountain of knowledge and always happy to help with queries no matter
She undertook research requests from FIBIS members around Australia.
I frequently saw her answering queries both on this list and with the
British India group established on Facebook. Sylvia also wrote articles
for Who do you think you are Magazine.
Her last article for FIBIS was published in the Journal in Spring 2016.
Entitled Walter Williams, A private soldier in India 1878-1888,
Sylvia had transcribed and researched the article which depicted the not
often recorded life of other ranks in the army.
Sylvia was diagnosed with Leukemia several years ago, she underwent many
rounds of treatment, had ups and downs, but was always susceptible to
She leaves a very loving family and will be greatly missed by us all.
Mary Anne Gourley
On 22/06/2018 3:41 AM, india-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
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> 1. Sad news: Sylvia Murphy had died. (Maureen Evers)
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This is very sad news indeed. Sylvia helped me in my research on a few
occasions even going out of her way to take some photographs for me on one
of her trips to India.
May she rest in peace.
Sylvia Murphey has died the news came as a shock to me! Today. She had
helped me on numerous occasions in my earlier days with India web. Many
thanks for your help over the years Sylvia now it's time for well-earned
rest. Rest In Peace and my thanks again.
I have just seen on another Forum that sadly Sylvia Murphy, a long time member of the India List has died. I know she has been ill with a medical condition for some years.
Over many years she has contributed greatly to genealogical research in respect of British India and was very helpful to me when I first started researching my family history.
I am trying to find information on Charles Victor MacIntyre in Madras. Someone (hyperkitty) was looking for
information in 16/8/2013 on the india list. Charles was my Gt Granfather. Please contact me by the list
Do you have a copy of the 'bible' on the subject EICA. I refer to FIBIS
Research Guide No. 1 Peter A. Bailey's */Researching Ancestors in the
East India Company Armies./*
This publication is available online through the FIBIS shop. It is a
must have for any one doing research in this particular area. Peter
covers service of both Officers and Soldiers,
gives examples of what one will find within the records and where
applicable, references the LDS (Latter Day Saints) film numbers. This
referencing enables those of us who cannot access records
at the BL to use the resources available via an LDS Family History
Centre. There is mention of casualty returns; Peter writes that 'the
term casualty generally means death or
retirement of the officer concerned'. I doubt there will be specific
mention of the details of wounds suffered by officers.
Also by Peter Bailey is FIBIS Research Guide No 3, */Researching
Ancestors in the Indian Army, 185-1947, /*which is the other 'bible' for
those researching on *this* subject.*/
FIBIS rep in Australia*/
On 15/06/2018 8:12 AM, india-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
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> From: Rick Desmier <rick.desmier(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [INDIA] Re: More information on activities of 43rd NI
> To: india(a)rootsweb.com
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> Thanks Max & Noel, I can see now that that is what is written. Family
> rumour was that he had lost an arm. Is there anyway of accessing an
> activity log for the regiment?
"My great great grandfather Lt Solomon Earle was wounded on 11/4/1828 whilst
serving with the 43rd NI.(Hodson's List). “ - you have misinterpreted this. The entry says he was ‘invalided' on that date. That means when he was moved off the active list. It could have been for any number of medical reasons.
My great great grandfather Lt Solomon Earle was wounded on 11/4/1828 whilst
serving with the 43rd NI.(Hodson's List). Where can I find out what action
the regiment was involved in on that day and what the nature of his
Rick Desmier (Australia)
This may be a bit off subject to this list but I thought it worth asking.
I had a fairly extensive family history website with rootsweb that i had
developed over several years. The bulk of the information covered my
father's ancestors the Desmier and Earle families that were both in India
from the mid 18th century until after independence. My pages were mainly
descriptive and included copies of documents such as wills etc not just
descendant or ancestor charts. I know others with Anglo Indian ancestry
found the site helpful and interesting as I have seen numerous passages
quoted on other peoples trees
Ancestry has taken down all the freepages sites and I can find no
information as to what to expect regarding reinstatement or otherwise. I am
sure that there must be others subscribing to this list in the same boat. I
would be interested to hear their thoughts regarding relocating their
websites to other hosts. Is it feasible to upload a website with a lot of
interconnecting pages to a blogger site for instance?
I am based in Queensland, Australia but I guess that makes little
difference to a solution to my problem.
I wish to thank all who un-selfishly have providing me with valuable Data concerning the above Subject, I have been trying to trace this G/G/G/Dad for some time!!!!!, So a special Thank You to Maureen Evers Mary-Anne Gourley & Noel Clark
I am very grateful for your expertise Cheers B.Wilton-King