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Unfortunately I am not in a position to spend much time searching at the
moment, but two of the children are as follows. First found on FamilySearch
and subsequent information from FindMyPast.
Helena Amilia Kennedy, born 1st October 1853, baptised 17th October 1853,
Cuddalore, Madras to Denis and Amilia.
She died aged 7 years 1 month and 23 days of cholera on 2nd October 1860 and
was buried the following day. No specific place but the page is headed
Jaulnah, Kamptee and Madras. Daughter of Dennis and Amelia Kennedy, late
Overseer in the P.W. Department.
Edward Kennedy, born 25th October 1853 (obviously incorrect), baptised 6th
December 1854, Cuddalore, Madras to Denys and Emilia.
I have found only one of these - Edward - on FindMyPast where his birth date
is clearly 25th October 1854, and the page is headed "Baptisms at Cannanore
and Cuddalore" and Denys was an Assistant Overseer residing at
Thanks for your help. Tom, I looked at those other births, one I can rule
out, and the others, I don't know. I think that Amelia her mother would
have been there, as their other daughter Ellen died/buried in1860, and
assuming Dennis, the father would have died not long before that year.
Thank you too skpande.
In case it helps, maybe the mother returned to the UK for the birth. On
FreeBMD there is a Baptism for
Agnes Fanny Kennedy - 3rd Qu. 1857 - Registration District Stafford.
There are also two elsewhere in 1858.
Thank you for your message. I'm so sorry to hear of your accident, and hope
that you are on the road to recovery.
I've been looking for this family for 20 years, and I finally found them.
Indeed, I'm not even sure that the D Kennedy death/burial is my Dennis
Kennedy, I'm assuming it's him, and their daughter Agnes, was my
ggrandmother. She was born in 1857 (we got that from her first marriage),
and no one can find a birth for her, so I assumed Dennis died, and no
baptism took place. I see from the second document of Ellen Kennedy 1853 -
1860 that he did indeed die somewhere around that time, and I'm convinced
it's 1857. I still can't find a marriage for them.
With regard to his wife Amelia/Amilia/Emilia, I found out who she was from
her second marriage to William Francis Moss in 1867. I found that the
witnesses J W and J Patterson were her sister Jessie, and brother-in-law
John William Patterson. On both Amelia and Jessie's marriage (1863), they
state that their father is John Hill. I can only find a John Hill with a
daughter Emilia and mother Sally, in Bangladesh, Bengal in1838, and a John
Hill with Sarah, and Jessie as a daughter in 1845 in Madras (I found those
statements on Ancestry.com). I connected all these people, from Agnes back
to Amelia and Jessie through the help of witnesses, J W Pattersn in
particular, as he was a witness at Amelia's second marriage and a witness
at her daughter Agnes's wedding as well. I was fortunate in that sense.
I then went looking for John Hill marriages around 1838, and found some,
not with those wives, neither in Bangladesh or Madras.
I would love to know who Dennis was and where he came from. I would also
like to know about Amelia now.
I shall take your advice and go looking through the Fibis website. I
wouldn't expect that anyone should have to go looking in BL for me. I will
email them today, and see if they can look these things up for me that I've
All the best for a speedy and healthy recovery Peter, and thank you again
for all your help.
I've been looking at two documents (from Findmypast) in the hope of working
out who my GGGrandfather Dennis Kennedy c1830 died c1857 was (D Kennedy
1857 Madras - death from Findmypast).
Maureen Evers kindly gave me 'Sappers and Miners' from that document.
I've now found a death/burial document of one of their (Dennis Kennedy and
Amelia (Hill)) children - *Ellen *Kennedy 1853 - 1860. In the 'parents'
column, it mentions Dennis 'Late Overseer in the P.W Department' - I'm not
sure if this means Permanent Way, or Public Works, and if this is Public
Works, does it tie in with Sappers and Miners from a death/burial above?
Would appreciate any help :)
Wendy, Newcastle, Australia
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1) I've been looking at a marriage between William Francis Moss and Amelia
Kennedy (widow) in 1867 in Madras. His profession is listed as Clerk ??????
I can't work out what this middle word is.
2) The other, more importantly to me, is a D Kennedy (Dennis, born about
1830) Wills and Probate Document in Madras: Death was 1857, Probate
Information was 1858. He is listed as 9. Kennedy D, Sergeant, and in the
column next to it, it lists his profession which I can't work out. There's
one word, then a letter, and I think the next word is Miner?
If anyone can help, I'd be very grateful :)
Wendy, Newcastle, Aust.
I'd like to thank Maureen Evers in particular, and Noel Clark for their
help in my search for family (Kennedy in particular).
Maureen's comments helped me look further into 'Witnesses' at marriages and
reasons for those people being there, and after about 20 years or so (and
an all nighter!), I've finally had a breakthrough. I found these people and
new people now, not in the places where I thought they were originally. I
now have a few more people to join the family.
Thank you, the people on this list have helped me numerous times, but none
more so than today!
All the best,
Wendy, Newcastle, Aust.
This type of question comes up all the time. The "Rank or Profession" is
almost always only for the groom. I doubt that you will find anything for a
bride unless she was a professional in her own right such as a nurse or
In this case, my interpretation is that Alfred Cadd held a specific rank for
the purposes of the disembarkation of his corps and it reads "Disembarkation
Serjeant Major Quarter Master General's Department."
What you are reading as a "2" is cursive writing for the letters "Qr." This
was a characteristic of the writing of the time.
I was looking at a marriage in 1876 in Fort William, Bengal on findmypast
of Alfred Cadd and Agnes Kennedy.
Under his occupation, it says:
Alfred Cadd : Disembarktion
Agnes Kennedy 2?. W. General Dept.
For the life of me, I also can't find her birth, or anything about her or
her father Denis Kennedy. I have all her family after she married, but her
time before this is just a mystery.
Thanks for any help.
Wendy, NSW, Australia
Thanks for that Simon. So Robert was first cousin once removed?
The pedigree of Kyd I found in 'The Book of Wedderburn'. Yes, Craigie was
sold to the Guthries. Even more of a coincidence is that I have several
descents from Kinnoull. then again all Scots were related!
thanks for that
A massive thank you for the Alexander Kyd extended will and so legible. I
only wish modern people had such neat handwriting! I only had a shorter one
and suspect this later one superceded the one I have! Thank you too for
James Kyd's will which gives me more cud to chew on. You are champs!
Simon also has been of inestimable help with the details of Edward Hay - a
big thanks to him.
I wonder if the Robert Kyd will is that of the Colonel botanist who died in
India and whose mausoleum is still in the gardens he created? He was a
kinsman of Alexander, how I do not know, but it laid the foundations of the
wealth of the Kyds.
I can't be absolutely certain that this is the same man, but it looks very
much like him, but I put "Alexander Kyd" into Google Books
https://books.google.com/ and came up with a whole lot of hits. If it is
him, you have a lot to work with there!
John Shattock Heywood died on 25th December 1964. His residence was 204
Lorne Street, Farnworth, Lancashire. He left 188GBP and probate was granted
(Manchester) to his widow Florence Amelia on 5th May 1965.
Her death was registered in August 1989 in the Crawley Registration
District, West Sussex.
Looks as though they arrived in England at Liverpool on the "Empire Brent"
on 8th March 1948 from Bombay. John listed 50, Mechanic, Florence 40,
Housewife, and John junior, 14, Scholar. Country of last permanent residence
India. Intended address 90 Highfield Road, Farnworth.
I found a John Albert Charles Heywood baptised in 1933 at Bhopal, India -
transcription only, and then a John Albert C. Heywood born 27th August 1933
death registered 2006 in Brighton. I think likely married Florence A.D. Bell
in 1962 in Surrey and had daughter Loretta Z. Heywood the following year.
She married Igor Kufayev in Hammersmith 1992. This is possibly the family of
the couple you enquired about.
Details from ancestry and FindMyPast.
I'm looking for information regarding Florence Amelia TURNER who was
born in Bangalore, India, 1907 and who married John Shattock HEYWOOD,
Lonavla, Bombay, 1925. Did they leave India, as most of the family did
and if so where did they go?
Kind regards, Len Buchanan
By way of introduction I'm a London based published writer with an abiding
love of Genealogy.
Many of my ancestors, mainly Scots, had much to do with India, under the
H.E.I.C and under the Empire. These are well documented and their lives form
part of the emerging India.
I recently embarked on a descendancy chart of an early 18C ancestor and
amongst his descendants have discovered a very interesting Scottish family
involved with India, one of whom married a genealogical aunt.
Here is or are my conundrums.
It all starts with a career officer, Alexander Kyd, of the Bengal
Engineers, who starts off as a captain in the 1780s and ends his life in 1826 as a
Lieutenant General of the Bengal engineers. He had acquired wealth through
an initial bequest by his kinsman, Colonel Robert Kyd, the botanist, and
then through shrewd investments.
Lt General Kyd was a cultivated man. He played several musical instruments,
read much and collected Jade. In fact he is best remembered by his
discovering a huge Jade terrapin which is now in a British Museum.
Kyd married late in life, in 1804, at Clifton, to Mrs Hay, the widow of
Andrew Hay, Esquire, Secretary General of the Bengal government who had died
in Cape Town in 1798.
I can find little on this important Mr Hay who seemed to have been a very
able colonial administrator. What I would like to find out is the name and
surname of his widow. Is she the Eliza whose monument to her memory is in St
John's Wood Church in London? Could anyone point me in the right
My second question is even more complicated! The good general had three
illegitimate sons, all educated in Britain;
Robert who died in 1729
and Alexander, a Cambridge graduate who married my Genealogical aunt Emma
Beevor in 1829.
I find little on Alexander apart from his Education and his first and
possibly only place of residence, 6 Chesham Place, Middlesex, which still exists
- I can however find nothing on ancestry on him or whether he had
Reverting back to the eldest, James, his career is well traced in the
annals of India. He and Robert were shipbuilders to the H.E.I.C in Calcutta and
made fortunes. where, if at all, would I. be able to find wills for these
two gents? I know James had a natural daughter, Maria who inherited the
major portion of his estate, and I know Robert had a son Hayes Kyd, a
practising surgeon, about whom there is quite a lot on Ancestry.
Oof - done!
thanks for any pointers
Peter (de loriol)