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I am trying to track down when someone joined the HEIC and possibly
any other details. He worked for the HEIC in 1793 as an examiner in
the Board of Revenue, and was recorded as being in Bengal since 1787.
I cant find any source to follow up at the OIOC, the directories
which cover this period only show Directors and senior staff such as
merchants and there does not appear to be any other source. Any ideas
where I could start looking?
Interests: O'HARA, STUART, BRASS, DEMEDER, D'CASTRO, MONK
I have an extract from the Register of Baptisms kept at the Church of the Most Holy Trinity, Cannanore (Malabar Dt)
showing my grandfather's baptism in 1891. I believe his mother, Mary PRATER, died giving birth to him. I have no other information regarding Mary, although its possible her death may have been registered at the same church. Any ideas on how I access information?
I have a letter from my grandfather to my grandmother dated 30th August 1919. The address is given as Rajora via Chandra CP. Any advice?
I am trying to find more information on James Cumming WATSON, his wives and
JCW was born in about 1785, place unknown.
He first married Harriet LANE, probably 16 Sep 1816 at St martin's in the
Fields, Westminster, London, England. In India they had a daughter Harriet
Ann WATSON, christened 31 Oct 1819. His wife seems to have died shortly
afterwards, but I have not yet found any record of her death.
He then married a widow Esther DONALD (nee TUTTLE), date and place unknown.
They had three children: Martha Lewis WATSON, b. 14 Aug 1820, christened
Ghazipur 16 Feb 1821; Eleanor WATSON, b.22 Oct 1823 (my g.g.grandmother);
and Anne WATSON, christened 24 Feb 1825.
James also had another daughter of whom I have found no details, and could
have been with either wife.
James died 9 May 1827 at Ghazipur.
I have details of Eleanor Watson, but very few details of any of the others.
Esther TUTTLE was from a Wexford, Ireland, family. James apparently offended
his family by his marriage to Harriet Lane, enlisted in the army, went to
India and immediately bought hi discharge from the army. He then started as
an up-country merchant.
If anyone has any further information on this family, I would be grateful.
Thanks for that info. It's much appreciated.
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From: "Brian Price" <jasbprice(a)eircom.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: [India] Hogg in Calcutta
> Regards James
Still puzzling over my grandfather's saying that his father was a
rough rider in the 42nd when we know he was in the 7th Hussars on the
birth of his daughter in 1861. Does anyone know if the 42nd had white
NCOs and could he have transferred when the 42nd was disbanded after
James Weir Hogg, the eldest son of William Hogg and Mary Dickey, was born 7 Sept 1790 at Stoneyford, Lisburn, Co. Antrim. He was educ. at Dr. Bruce's Academy in Belfast and at Trinity Coll. Dublin where he graduated in 1810 with a B.A.. He won a Gold Medal for oratory at TCD. He became a barrister and went to India 1814 joining the Bar there. He enjoyed a large and lucrative practice for 8 years. He was Registrar of the Supreme Court of Judicature and Vice-Admiralty Court at Calcutta. Returning to England 1833 a wealthy man he was MP for Beverley in Yorkshire (1834-47). In 1839 he was made director of HEIC and in 1846 he was its Chairman and created a Baronet the same year. He was offered but declined the Governorship of Bombay Presidency in 1853. He was a member of the India Council from its origins in 1858 - 1872 when on his retirement he was made a Privy Councillor. He died in 1876 leaving 7 sons and 7 daughters. He married 26 July 1822 Mary Claudina, (d. 26 June 1874) 2n!
d dau. of Samuel Swinton of Swinton, Berkwickshire -a Civil Servant in India.(see Burke's Landed Gentry).
In the course of looking up the family name "Joyce" in Indian sources, I came across the names of "Mr Joyce wife and family" on the above Mutiny Memorial.
Does anyone have any knowledge of the location of more detail about the people memorialised at All Souls Church, Cawnpore? While I have no reason to believe that Mr Joyce is from my Joyce family, I would be interested to learn more about him. All the names I saw on the memorial gave only the family name of the husband, with no clues as to his given names or those of the wives and children.
Thanks for your help.
Central Queensland, Australia
I am wondering if anyone knows how I go about researching the records
of 2 persons who worked for the Bombay Baroda and Central India
Railway. I have a gtgtgrandmother, Mary Fleet who went to Bombay with
her husband George Rochester Thompson after their 1864 marriage in
Lincolnshire. George was an Engine Driver for the BB & CI Railway.
George died July 1870. Mary, his widow remarried in late 1870 to
Henry John Fry who was a Carriage Foreman on the BB & CI Railway. He
died around 1873/4 as Mary remarried again in Oct 1874 Pancras London.
Henry John Fry had been previously married to Mary Ann Stanley 5 May
1866 Surat and before that to Caroline Amelia Mapson 1855
Warwickshire. Caroline died at Surat from cholera June 1865 at Amrolee.
I would like to confirm when these people arrived in Bombay whether
or not they had children with them and also their Railway records. I
am especially interested to confirm the origins of Henry John Fry who
is my gtgtgrandfather. I don't have proof that it was my Henry who
was married to Caroline Amelia Mapson - just a hunch that this was
the right marriage in the UK. If it is correct, I need to prove that
Henry was born in Chipstable / Wiveliscombe Somerset about 1830. I
discovered that in 1861, Henry's wife, Caroline was in Birmingham
with their 2 sons, but no sign of Henry anywhere. His marriage cert
says he was a coach maker. His father was John Fry, a Smith.
Thanks very much for any help with the Railway records / advice. All
details listed below.
Best wishes, Judy Jones
Mary Fleet = George Register (sic for Rochester) Thompson 26 Sept
1864 at the parish church of Barrow on Humber
Lincolnshire George was a bachelor, Engine
Driver of New Holland. His father was George Thompson, Engine Driver.
They had a child in 1868 and then George died 1870 :
Annie Margaret Thompson, daughter of George Thompson and Mary, driver
B B & C I Railway.
Born 11 Feb 1868; bp. 18.March 1868 Parell. (Christ Church, Byculla)
George Thompson, 32, Engine driver, died and buried 6 July.1870.
Sewree Cemetery. (born about 1838/9)
Mary Thompson nee Fleet remarried to Henry John Fry in 1870.
Mary Thompson, full age, widow. Father: James Fleet.
Henry John Fry, full age, widower, carriage foreman BB&CI
Railway. Father: John.
Married 25.Dec.1870. St Peter Maragan.Bombay India
They had 2 children: Grace in 1871 and William G in 1873/4 in Bombay
before Henry died around 1873/4 - have not found the death.
Thanks for any advice
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I previously posted to the list (please see below) and got some
useful replies - however I still haven't been able to make it to the
British Library to check he Ecclesiastical Returns. I did see in
another post recently an index of baptisms at St. Mary's church
Madras, and a Walter Johnson was baptised in 1876. Could this be the
one I am searching for, that is, did people sometimes baptise their
children this long after their birth? If so, is there any way I
could find the father's name and occupation other than going to the
British Library - I am quite a long way away!
Many thanks for your anticipated help!
Simon W. Jones.
I wonder if you could give me some advice. I am trying to find a
Thomas Johnson who I believed lived in India for a time and had a son
Walter there in 1871. They later moved to Manchester (Salford) where
Walter worked as a coachman. I think Thomas also moved back but
there is no record of him in the England census returns of either
1881 or 1891. Water got married in 1896 and by that time Thomas was
deceased - his work in the UK is listed as watchman.
I was hoping that people with more experience would help me with a
starting point of how to find out more about Thomas - if he was in
the army for example and if so which regiment to try.
Thanks in advance for your help.
I am living in South Africa and only able to find out information on the internet so would be very grateful if anyone out there could help!!
I am trying to find out about my great great grandfather Andrew Haydon who according to my parents recollections was batman to Lord Roberts. He was married and had two sons in India, Andrew John in 1872 in Bangalore and George in Madras in 1874. I cannot trace his wifes name.
I will be in the UK in December and will go to the British Library but if anyone can tell me anything before this would be very grateful.
James Weir HOGG was the Registrar of the Calcutta Supreme Court form about
1822 to 1833.
I am interested in finding out his earlier career in India before 1822,
including when he first arrived in India
I am also interested in details of his wife, Mary Claudine Swinton, and her
parents Samuel SWINTON and Isabella Routledge, including Samuel's
I received this but its not my email address its yours
>From: "Dave and Terry" <ptfcc(a)mweb.co.za>
>Subject: [India] Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:17:33 +0200
>I am living in South Africa and only able to find out information on the
>internet so would be very grateful if anyone out there could help!!
>I am trying to find out about my great great grandfather Andrew Haydon who
>according to my parents recollections was batman to Lord Roberts. He was
>married and had two sons in India, Andrew John in 1872 in Bangalore and
>George in Madras in 1874. I cannot trace his wifes name.
>I will be in the UK in December and will go to the British Library but if
>anyone can tell me anything before this would be very grateful.
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Moira, If you get a chance, could you check for any details on:
Blanche Harriet Sophia MILFORD
From what we know, she was born in Bombay Province on 20 Mar 1855
dau.of (later) MajGen Sussex Charles MILFORD; we are searching for his wife's name, possibly it was Charlotte ----.
Appreciate your offer,
Mick Mecham, Aust.
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I'm wondering if anyone can help me - I'm stumped and don't have much to
work on. My great grandmother MARY AUGUSTA MACKENZIE was born 24 September
1857 in either Madras or Calcutta (her death certificte states Madras wheras
a birth certificate of one of her children states Calcutta) Her father was
ROBERT MACKENZIE a soldier. I cannot find the name of her mother - no
certificates ever state it.
My grandfather (Mary's son) , my father and one of my sons have very olive
skin so we have thought for a while that maybe she was a native Indian. One
snippet of information I have states that Mary was in Queensland, Australia
from 3 years of age.
Can anyone help me find any evidence of Mary's birth in India and the name
of her mother. Or even a record of Mary and Robert( and maybe Mary's mother)
leaving India for Australia.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Searching for any relations of the above, born India c. 1827-1829, married
twice - (1) Emily Ann Greenway/Greenaway and (2) Emily Meredith.
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I only have about an hour to spare at the LDS center,
so I will do my best to get as many names as I can.
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If I'm not too late, I would be grateful if you could see if there is
mention of Millicent THOMAS whose baptism should be during that period.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Liza Mahjhrin" <lmahjhrin(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: [India] 1881 Baptism Index, Bengal
> Hi all,
> I have ordered the Index for Baptisms in Bengal
> Presidency from 1876 - 1884. I have already found my
> grandfather listed in it, but am going back to my
> local LDC Family History Center to make a copy of it.
> I am will to help anyone who might be interested in
> checking if their ancestor is listed in it. I will be
> going back this Saturday, 29th July. So please get
> back to me soon!
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I am currently searching for information on my grandfather Henry Melville
Smith, born in Satara in 1862, and have recently obtained the index for
Births or baptisms in the Bombay Presidency for the years 1851 to 1870.
Unfortunately he is not listed in the index and I am awaiting receipt of
further indices to research. In the meantime, I still have access to this
index for a week or so, so if anyone would like me to look up anyone in it I
would be happy to do so. I can only visit the LDS centre for one hour on a
Wednesday, and am booked in for next week, so my time is limited but I am
happy to help.