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Was your ancestor just 'One step ahead of the Sheriff??
the Black Sheep of the family, or a Policeman or Victorian Thespian??
http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk is rather slow to load but the are
potted biographies, photos, cases, obituaries etc... with an option to buy
>From NZ Newsletter:
Searchable database of Wills from 1500-1901 with
digital images available for GBP (£) 3.00 ?
I found a 'returned' tea planter of Darjeerling at my first try.....
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Hobson-Jobson,Anglo-Indian Dictionary is helpful
> A Surcismia got Rps 4-12-63 a (month?)
though haven't yet found reference to Surcismia or similar
> A Duffadar was next highest in rank and got 2 Rupees a (month?)
a Hindi word essentially meaning 'a person in charge of a small body of
A Petty Officer of Native Police; and in regiments of Irregular Cavalry, a
non-commissioned officer corresponding in rank to a corporal or naik
> than a Peon who got Rps 1-6-34, or 1-12-68.
A Portuguese word originally used in the sense of a foot-soldier, thence as
orderly or messenger. There are plenty of examples of use of the term, but
it does appear to have been more commonly used in South India
Going back also to your money question: Star Pagodas were divided into
Fanams and then smallest denomination Cash.
The value of all these could be variable depending on weight.
Found in the above website
5. CORGE, COORGE: (page 255)
habitually say do kori, tin kori, for 40, 60, and so forth. The first of our
quotations shows the word in a form very closely allied to this, and
explaining the transition. Wilson gives Telugu khorjam, "a bale or lot of 20
pieces, commonly called a corge." [The Madras Gloss. gives Can. korji, Tel.
khorjam, as meaning either a measure of capacity, about 44 maunds, or a
Madras town cloth measure of 20 pieces.]
6. CORGE, COORGE: (page 255)
[The Madras Gloss. gives Can. korji, Tel. khorjam, as meaning either a
measure of capacity, about 44 maunds, or a Madras town cloth measure of 20
A lot of words can be found here. I have found the following words at the
COTWAL, CUTWAUL: (page 266)
and showed it."-- A. Hamilton, ii. 199. [In ed. 1744, ii. 199, cautwal].
1763.-- "The Catwal is the judge and executor of justice in criminal
cases."-- Orme (ed. 1803), i. 26.
1812.-- "... an officer retained from the former system, denominated cutwal,
to whom the general police of the city and regulation of the market was
entrusted."-<-> Fifth Report, 44.
1847.-- "The Kutwal... seems to have done his duty resolutely and to the
best of his judgment."-- G. O. by Sir C. Napier, 121.
1. DUFFADAR: (page 329)
'a person in charge of a small body of troops']. A petty officer of native
police (v. burkundauze, v.); and in regiments of Irregular Cavalry, a
non-commissioned officer corresponding in rank to a corporal or naik.
1803.-- "The pay... for the duffadars ought not to exceed 35 rupees."--
Wellington, ii. 242. DUFTER , s. Ar.-- H. daftar. Colloquially 'the office,'
and interchangeable with cutcherry, except that the latter generally implies
an office of the nature of a Court.
Just wanted to thank Donald Jaques on list for all his efforts not only in
posting entries he found but when I enquired he has got me the photocopy of
the entry so I wanted to thank him on list I have done this privately as
well Thank You Donald
I have come across one of my notes about a character who was a Farrier Major in H.M. The Nizam's Monpurthy or Wonpurthy Lancers in 1870. I have jotted down both spellings, but can't decide which is right.
Could someone tell me which is correct.
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Guys, everybody has been really sweet about sharing their thoughts and feelings with me about the future of Anglo-Indian culture. Now, I have another question for the AIs out there who aren't heartily sick of me already - guys, Anglo-Indians obviously have at least two heritages, and often more, i.e. Indian and European. Why is it that so many Anglo-Indians have leaned so strongly (and often, exclusively) towards their European heritage? Why not towards the Indian? I'd love to know what you think about this. I can sit here and draw all the conclusions that I like, but I'm not AI, and so therefore can look at this only from the perspective of an interested observer. I can't pretend to know how you feel, and so would be very grateful to anybody who would be kind enough to enlighten me on this subject. Thanks, guys. Warmest regards, Lynne.
Well folks, have a real puzzle here for solving. Have been sorting out some
papers and have found a group of pages 505-512 from either 1841 or 1842 and
with p. 505 headed 'London Gazette' and then the first 3 pages are the
Military Gazette with announcements of promotions, movements etc, pp. 508&9
are 'commercial gazette' with lists of Bankruptcies etc from various UK
locations. All the pages up to 509 have the header London Gazette. Then,
pages 510-512 are 'Births, Marriages and Deaths' with all, or certainly
almost all being related to India or Ceylon.
So,what is the source of this material and how do we find it again? Of
course I never wrote a URL on any page,nor is one printed anywhere. They
look to me as if they have been printed from .pdf files, presumably scanned
copies, and are remarkably 'clean'. The only clue to year is one of the
entries under Office of Ordnance, June 28: Memorandum - The date of the
commission of First Lieut M C Dixon is altered to the 11th April 1841. The
latest War Office column heading is July 23 - hence the guess of publication
date, August or September or later 1841.
Did the London Gazette in 1841 publish colonial births, marriages and
deaths? Doing a current search only finds the LG on line back to 1900, so,
has anyone any clues where to find this material again? [other clue is
printer's name at bottom of last page: Fisher, Son and Co, printers, Newgate
Surnames of those listed in the marriages:
ADLEY, Rev to GAUNTLETT
BEATSON to CAMPBELL
BRISTOL to GROVES
BURNHAM to MALIN
CROMPTON to CAMERON
CROUBE to BOULDERSON
CUBITT to PATTERSON
COOKE to GIRAUD
DOOLAN to WINN
EWART, Rev to HUNTLEY
ELTON to BAIRD
FLEMMING to SAKES
FLANDERKA to FOENANDER
FOULKES to GLENIE
GREENSTREET to FLETCHER
GORE to DE HAVILAND
HAWKINS to ARMSTRONG
HUSCHKE to BEHRENS
KING to ASTON
LEACOCK to CUMMINS
MULLENS to TURNER
MARSHALL to HOSACK
PIGOTT,Rev to ELLIOTT
ROBOUL to TRAVERS
SWAN to GREENTREE
STOKES to MILAN
STANTON to PITTAR
VEARS to MOORE
WILLIAMS to BIRD
WRIGHT to HALL
YATES, Rev to PEARCE
Looking forward to the answer!
Sylvia C M Murphy
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Carlingford Court NSW 2118
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The first one beats me but a duffadar was a rank ,an nco in indian cavalry.In police it mey mean an nco of mounted police.Peons are chuprassies ,who sit outside civil servant's office and fetch and carry files etc.A kotwal is a policeman incharge of a police thana .
Thought I'd run this one by you yet again. Has anybody out there heard of an estate near Madras, called El Dorado? I would be very grateful for any information at all concerning this estate. Thanks guys. Warmest regards, Lynne.
You may already know that some wills from the Public Record Office in the UK are available online at http://www.pro.gov.uk/online/docsonline.htm
But I was amazed to discover the will of my gggg grandfather there yesterday, even though he was based in India. It turned out he sent his will to England (with friends) in 1805... The will is even in Rupees!
I've just typed India in as a keyword on the search, and 4,724 wills came up, so it's maybe worth a look. And if you find one of interest, it only costs 3 UK pounds to download - a bargain.
Sorry if you all already knew this... but it surprised me!
North Mymms, Herts
If you visit the collection of maps that we have put together for India-L at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~poyntz/India/maps.html
you will find Murree on the map that is called 'Plate 24'. Murree is up in the NE corner of the map just south of Lat. 34 and a bit west of Long 74.
You will find Murree on 'Plate 22 as well, where it is tucked into the SE corner of the map.
Now, thanks to Jill Grey who provided the scan, we have added the detailed map of Murree that was published in Murray's 1924 handbook. It shows the
cantonments, churches cemeteries, polo grounds, individual houses and most important of all, the Brewery.
Tracy Dunne wrote:
> Could anyone suggest a web site that has an old map showing the area
> around the Murree Hills in detail? I have searched on Google, but
> haven't found one which matches what I'm after.
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> > Hello everybody and Listers,
> I am Shamin, I am not sure whether this webside is related for my
> request. I 'am desperately trying to get an extract copy of a Settlement
> Land Record and Survey map of a Patta (land grant) issued during the
> The particulars are as follows:- Patta No: 16, issued in the year
> 1919,Periapattinam (village) ,Ramnad District, Ramanathapuram.(formally it
> was a princely state under the British). (b), Who was the British Official
> who was in charge of this Patta issuing and the British Official in charge
> of this Ramanathapuram taluk during that time.!
> At the moment it is not available at Madras (Chennai) or in!
> > India.Anyone out there have any information regard this matter where I
> could get these copies other than India is greatfully appreciated and
> Thanking You for the effort.
> Kind regards, Shamin e-mail:-firstname.lastname@example.org
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