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Is there a place called Chas near Ranchi? My Dad was not allowed to reveal his
current location in his wartime letters home, but when he was in Poona (I
identified that from incidental detail) he referred to having previously been at
Chas, "higher than this place" and almost on the Tropic of Cancer.
www.calle.com/world/india came up with two places called Chas, somewhere between
Poona and Ahmadnagar and certainly not on the Tropic. Ranchi seems a better
Just a few more that I can manage to read -- contact me for more info.
Marriages Solmnized at Calcutta Fort William in Bengal 1842.
Blechynden (looks like)
Burials in the Scotch Burial Ground Calcutta 1851
I am currently sorting out my many references to Elliotts - Bengal from
1780 onwards- if any lister has this name on their tree do contact me off
list to see if we connect or if, maybe, I have a useful link for you.
This series doesn't appear to be on sale here in Australia either. However, programs can sometimes be bought from ABC Video Program Sales. The web address for the ABC is http://abc.net.au and the email address for Program Sales is: progsales(a)your.abc.net.au Good luck! Lynne
The ABC [the Aussie one] is showing William Dalrymple's Indian Journeys on
Sunday nights on the 'Compass' programme. Last night was about St Thomas
and the early Christians in South India - it was excellent but on rather
late so missed parts of it and am now kicking myself for not having made a
video of it. Does anyone know if these are on sale in the UK ?
PS: next Sunday night is 'Ganges' where WD traces the source of the Ganges
to high in the Himalayas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Railton [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2002 6:02 AM
> To: INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [India-L] William Dalrymple
> At last it is being published - a book previously discussed on this list -
> William Dalrymple's latest book "White Mughals: Love and Betrayal in
> Eighteenth Century India". There was a review in todays (UK) Daily
> Telegraph. This probably means that it will be on sale in UK inabout 2
> weeks. It is the story of James Achilles Kilpatrick, an employee
> of the East
> India Company. If his previous work is anything to go by it is
> bound to be a
> good read.
> I will be at my local bookshop to order my copy tomorrow.
> David Railton
Thanks Carol - all the replies point towards Ferozepore and your supports
Now here's a supplementary question to the list. My Mother recalls that her
GGrandfather was a Bazaar Sargeant. So, how would I go about tracking down
a Bazaar Sargeant called Wilf White, whose daughter Annie White was born in
Ferozepore, probably in 1874.
Oh yes - and what is a bazaar sargeant?
Regards to all on this very active list....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick & Carol Gall" <candiga(a)ans.com.au>
To: "Andy Winter" <andy.winter(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [India-L] Ferzipore or Ferozepore
> Hello Andy
> Have been following the notes about your town above. Today I had the
> chance since you posted the query to look at some gazeteers.
> Lipponcott's Gazeteer of the World, published in 1910:
> FEROZEPUR see FIROZPUR
> 1. a town of the Pubjab 50 miles S by E of Lahore, capital of the
> of Firozpur.
> 2. a town of the Punjab 74 miles S of Delhi in the district of Gurgaon.
> (The first one is in my little atlas published in 1980 as Ferozepore)
> Imperial Gazeteer Edited by WC Blackie, old but with no date anywhere)
> 1. a town of NW Hindoostan, left bank and 3 miles from the Sutlej, 66
> west of Loodiana. It has a strongly fortified castle and good bazaars and
> is fast rising in importance under the protection of the British. In
> December 1845 the British here defeated the Sikhs.
> 2. a town of Hindoostan, in the province of Agra, 5 miles SSW of Delhi.
> India often seems to have towns with the same names - sometimes you can
> eventually work it out if they are in different presidencies, by where you
> find the records. In this case, the best bet looks like No.1 in each
> above, which is the same place when you refer to a map.
> Apart from gazeteers, I often find the Encyclopedia Britannica has good
> on Indian places, the various spellings used over the years, and the
> Hope this helps
Trying to track down my great-great-grandmother who was born in Karachee, India. Her name is Elizabeth ESTROUGH, birth date c. 1856. (According to her daughter's NZ birth certificate, she was 29 in 1885. At some point she left India for New Zealand, where she married.)
If SKS could do a BDM lookup for me that would be wonderful. ESTROUGH, could also be ESTROW.
Thank you kindly,
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My name is Patricia Rinske Kooistra and I am particularly interested in finding
out about my Mother's family. Her father's name was Ian Patrick Grant, born on
9th December 1891 in Inverness Scotland, but he lived in India where he married
my Grandmother Alice Grace Crabbe born in 1900. His father was Hugh Grant, tea
planter and his mother was Mary Elizabeth Maclennan - they were married in
Calcutta on 16th January 1889. My Grandmother's father was Harry J. Crabbe,
chief journalist of "The Statesman" - he retired in 1923. I know nothing of her
mother. She was the youngest child of about eight. My mother's name is Joan
Myrtle née Grant and she had a brother Gordon - he apparently moved to South
Africa and may not even know that he has a sister. Anyone have any information
on any of these people for me please?
e-mail : patricia.kooistra(a)consilium.eu.int
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>>Subject: subscribe Patricia.Kooistra(a)consilium.eu.int
I am flagging up the latest news story on the Green Howards web site;-
which tells of the visit by a group of Sri Lankans to the Green Howards
Although the news story in itself doesn't say too much about Ceylon /
Sri Lanka at the time the Green Howards (19th Foot) were there, the
story DOES highlight the fact that the Green Howards Museum possesses
material that might help those researching that particular time in
One of the future Newsletters of the Friends of the Green Howards
Regimental Museum will be devoted to covering the service of the 19th
Foot in Ceylon between 1796 - 1820.
Subject: [India-L] Bhopal State Cavalry/Military Museums/
The leading expert on the Indian military and especially the Indian states
armies is Tony McClenaghan, His e-mail address is mcclenaghan(a)zetnet.co.uk.
He is a great scholar & a fine willing help to all.
Sorry, I must have deleted the original during a brain spasm. Brian (?)
was looking for information on the Bengal Artillery. He might try:
List of the officers of the Bengal Army, 1758-1834 / alphabetically
arranged and annotated with biographical and genealogical notices, by V.
C. P. Hodson (Vernon Charles Paget), London, Constable, 1927-47. pt.1.
A-C, pt.2 D-K, pt.3. L-R, pt.4. S-Z.
Most entries have biographical details, service record and list
Did miss reading about this site before ?
"Merchant Vessels in the Service of the East India
Company ... " Gives years of service, number of
voyages and tonnage. Sorry if this has been sent in
before, All the best,
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> > Incidentally, how do we explain that the language is Sinhalese and the
> > now calls itself Sri Lanka? That would seem to be three different
> > roots.
> > ~ Hugh
> I too would be interested to know the origin of Sinhalese/Singhalese, but
> Ceylon seems to be a European mispronunciation of Sri Lanka. (Like Burma
> and Myanmar.) English does not use "sr" together. I have already asked
> Brian what the origin of Sri Lanka is; perhaps he would post his reply to
> the List. (Is the suffix -ka a common one?)
> Gordon Barlow
Where is/was Madukella or Madulkelle in Ceylon?
Does anyone happen to know what M.H. [Melville Henry?] THOMAS and his wife
Marian, née SKINNER, were doing there in 1870?
At about the same time there was a G.S. WILLIAMS in the Ceylon civil service.
It would be nice to know his full forenames and who his wife was.
Charles Casement HARDY, b. 1859, went to Ceylon by 1882, acc. to a letter from
his sister. I don't think he was in the army. What was he doing there, and
what became of him?
Can anyone suggest how I might find the answers to these questions?
Incidentally, how do we explain that the language is Sinhalese and the country
now calls itself Sri Lanka? That would seem to be three different etymological
Have you tried this site?
Especially the section called Bangalore , India , Karnataka, the Bangalore
City Home Page.
There is an excellent section on called Forgotten Soldiers & also a full
listing of the names in Agram cemetery.
Walter BURTON,Winifred LINCOLN,Joseph Henry LINCOLN,Lydia BROWN,John BROWN,
John Marion LESLIE, Adeline Eugine DIAS, Francis Anthony DIAS, Mary Frances
DIAS,John Marion GONSALVES
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony & Shirley West <west(a)iverbucks.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Gordon Barlow <barlow(a)candw.ky>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [India-L] EIC writers in 1865
> Hello Gordon,
> I think the term "writer" was dropped officially by the Company in 1833
> [according to Hobson Jobson], but the term was still used by most people
> describe what we might call a clerk, long after that date. Is it still the
> Writers Building in Calcutta? I recall that the Royal Navy used the term
> well into the 1950's, and for all I know still uses it.
> Anthony West
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gordon Barlow <barlow(a)candw.ky>
> To: <INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:52 PM
> Subject: [India-L] EIC writers in 1865
> > > Wilmot Charles Dover was from a prolific family in Calcutta, he was
> > 22
> > > Oct 1865 to Charles Dover (a writer in EIC) and his wife Matilda Ann
> > Pereira
> > > daughter of Augustin Pereira (a writer in EIC).
> > Excuse my ignorance, but were there still "writers in the EIC" in 1865?
> > know that EIC soldiers all switched to the British Army (if they wanted
> > stay in an army), but I have never thought to ask before what happened
> > the EIC clerks. I presumed they joined the new Indian Civil Service.
> > actually happened during the period of transition, and after?
> > Gordon Barlow
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