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My Great Grandfather, Stephen Watts served in the army in India during the
1870's - 1880's. He is listed on micro fiche at the OIC British Library as
being married in Bangalore on 25 July 1883 to Mabel Winchester Bowman. His
occupation states Sergeant, 1st Battalion, Oxfordshire Light Infantry,
Does anyone on the List have any information on the 1st Battalion, OLI, and
their movements in India, type of duties etc.
Another entry at the OIC also gives the birth of Stephen and Mabel's second
child being born in Poona. As Poona is situated close to the West Coast of
India was the area used for troops moving into and out of India?
Any information on the above would be much appreciated.
Regards to all on the list.
Sunny and dry, Essex!!
I'd say Small Arms Ammunition, Dum Dum bullets are of course fairly well
From: Nigel Preece <nigelp(a)batelco.com.bh>
To: INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com <INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 31 March 2001 15:29
Subject: [India-L] SAA Factory - Bengal ??????
>Hi Fellow listers,
>I am following up a lead on Ella Maud FARLOW (aged 15 years ) who married
Edward ROBERTS ( a Sergeant ) on 10 June 1876 at Dum Dum.
>Her occupation is stated as: 'working at' an SAA factory !?
>Does anyone have any idea what the SAA factory was and what it did ?
>Nigel PREECE in sunny Bahrain
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>New subscribers are encouraged to take a look at Cathy Day's, website at:
>http://www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/ before posting their first query.
>Cathy provides answers to many basic questions about the location of
>birth, death and marriage records.
Is anyone searching William WINCHESTER, Sgt. Corps of Engineers, and Mary DIMOND, married l837, Madras - or John BOWMAN born ca. 1815 -20 ? Any input greatly appreciated.
Hi Fellow listers,
I am following up a lead on Ella Maud FARLOW (aged 15 years ) who married Edward ROBERTS ( a Sergeant ) on 10 June 1876 at Dum Dum.
Her occupation is stated as: 'working at' an SAA factory !?
Does anyone have any idea what the SAA factory was and what it did ?
Nigel PREECE in sunny Bahrain
On 31 Mar 2001, at 5:10, Michael Quin-Conroy wrote:
> Edmund established the Catholic Model School and saw the founding of
> eleven communities in Ireland, eleven in England, and one in Australia,
There are ten CB schools in the State of Queensland alone.
I teach in one of them. Ignatius Park College, Townsville.
Hi there - don't know if there is a connection but the maiden name of
Linda's g/mother's mother was reputedly Harriett or Louise MOORE,originating
in Ireland but ending up in India. She married James THOMPSON and children
were Margaret Emily (b.1900 Jetalsar),Mary Elizabeth and William. We do not
know whether MOORE & THOMPSON married in Ireland or India (although there is
no trace of anything in the OIOC records).
Linda & tony Knight
----- Original Message -----
From: David Barber <Dav_Barber(a)tesco.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: [India-L] Christian brother India
> My Grandfather Thomas Moore born 1896 was sent to India from Ireland as a
> small boy when his father Sgt. Maj. Joseph Patrick Moore died in the Boer
> War in 1900.
> Thomas's mother Margaret was left with 6 children and no Army pension so
> various members of the family arranged to "take care " of the children.
> Thomas was sent to a Christian brothers school in India and was then
> Commissioned in the Indian Army. I don't believe he saw his Mother again.
> The school treated the boys in a very brutal way and it left very deep
> emotional scars on him.
> My question is how can I find out which school he went to, he spent most
> his life in the Pindi area until returning to Ireland in 1947.
> Researching Cox, Clark, Davies, Picton and Moore in Ireland!
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On 30 Mar 2001, at 14:19, marianne de nazareth wrote:
> Excellent article with pictures in colour by Geoffery
> E. Duin an American writer,on the Seige and Relief of
> Lucknow circa 1857.The article is published in the
> April 2001 issue of the magazine Military History,
> which is published in Leesburg,VA.
> I was sent a copy and I'm sure all you amateur history
> buffs out there will enjoy reading it.
Inded. Please send me an airmail ticket, Townsville, Australia to
Leesbburg, return, of course !
Without the human community one single human being
-The Dalai Lama
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On 30 Mar 2001, at 20:29, Barbara Kearns wrote:
> I always understood the Christian Brothers to be Jesuits. Is that not the
No, the Christian Brothers were founded by Edmund Rice, now
beatified, so it should now read Blessed Edmund Rice.
"Whatever you do, may seem insignificant,
but it is very important that you do it."
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1869-1948)
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Any further clues ?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: [India-L] FAMILY TREE
> I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON MY FAMILY I HAVE TWO SURNAMES FORAGE AND
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My Grandfather Thomas Moore born 1896 was sent to India from Ireland as a
small boy when his father Sgt. Maj. Joseph Patrick Moore died in the Boer
War in 1900.
Thomas's mother Margaret was left with 6 children and no Army pension so
various members of the family arranged to "take care " of the children.
Thomas was sent to a Christian brothers school in India and was then
Commissioned in the Indian Army. I don't believe he saw his Mother again.
The school treated the boys in a very brutal way and it left very deep
emotional scars on him.
My question is how can I find out which school he went to, he spent most of
his life in the Pindi area until returning to Ireland in 1947.
Researching Cox, Clark, Davies, Picton and Moore in Ireland!
I have thoroughly enjoyed following all your postings. I am completing Masters at UniI am having problems keeping up with the readings so I must have a break for a while. Be back later.
Ascot, Western Australia
HAMILTON, MORTIMER, WOOD, GLEN, ORRIN
Pat Johnstone & Listers
An excellent and very full article on Indian Railways' Personnel Records by
Anthony West is to appear in the next edition of the FIBIS Journal which is
currently at the printers. Members will receive the Journal in the near
Peter Bailey - Secretary FIBIS
Eliza Burnard married Richard Nossiter Burnard, MRCS, LSA, on 24 Jan
1829, in Benares. He died in Benares on 21 Mar 1836, aged 35. The only
child I know of was my GG grandmother, Emma Eliza Burnard, who was born
on 10 December 1832, so Eliza was still alive then. Does anyone know
anything about her?
I am indebted to Donald Jaques for most of the information in these
emails. He is very kind.
She was my GGG grandmother, and all I know about her is that she married
Major Robert Wood Smith on 10 Jan 1818 in Nagpur. Her daughter Jessie
Elizabeth was born in about 1826, so she was still alive then. It is an
unusual name and it seems to me it was probably not British although she
may have been! Does anyone know when or where she was born or died?
I have received from Mel Thatcher of the Genealogical Society of Utah (GSU)
a list of the microfilms that they have taken of church records in India -
165 pages of them!
Many of them are, of course, those copied from the OIOC, with which we are
generally familiar. It will take a little time to process the others into a
format which I believe will be helpful to Listers (Religion - Presidency -
Parish - Film Number). When ready, I'll ask Cathy Day if she will publish
them on her site. I should point out that many of them have not yet been
catalogued and so do not appear in the LDS web-site, still less on CD.
Mel has asked of me a favour in return.
Does any Lister have any connection with the JEWISH authorities in India?
Mel is hoping that someone may be able to provide an introduction in order
that he might get approval and facilities to microfilm the Jewish records in
India. Please let me know on peter(a)sentosa.swinternet.co.uk
Good Hunting! - Peter Bailey, Weybridge UK
He was my GGG grandfather and he died on 19 November 1835 in
Mandleshwar, Holkar State. I am indebted to Donald Jaques for this, who
also told me he was buried in India Mhow Old Cemetery or Church, and
that there was an inscription. He had not located the inscription and I
wondered if anyone has any suggestions?
He married Maria Josephine Monneruit, about whom my next email.
He was my great great grandfather, born in Scotland in 1825, married
Emma Eliza Burnard in 1854. Does anyone know when and where he died? He
was a civil servant on the Bengal establishment. Also, does anyone know
when and when she died? They had four children, of whom the eldest, Emma
May, was my great grandmother. I don't know the birth dates of the other
three, but obviously they both survived long enough to have them.
Two events are coming up in May in Sydney which should interest some of the
listers in this part of the world:
1. The WEA has a day course "Hill Stations of the Raj" on Saturday May 19
from 9.30 - 4.30. Cost is $83. (concessions are available) Course no:
12WK019. Bookings are essential. When I booked in yesterday I asked if
there are still vacancies & this was confirmed. WEA premises are at 72
Bathurst Street, Sydney, just down from Town Hall station. Website is:
2. Society of Australian Genealogists "Showcase" is on again on the last
Friday and Saturday in May - 25 & 26 May. They have reduced space this year
and I had thought we may not be able to participate, but had an email during
the last week inviting us to once again staff a free information table.
I've already said "yes" and now looking for volunteers to assist. I know
how much people enjoyed this last year - both the helpers and the
information seekers. We would like to roster 2 people each morning and
each afternoon to assist myself and/or Cathy (if she can come!) Please be
aware that last year the mornings were busiest. At the moment, suggested
shifts are: 9.30am - 1pm and 1 - 5pm (but subject to change).
If you would like to help please respond by email with your preferred
shift(s) - I'll allow a week for all names to come in then reply to all
Sylvia C M Murphy JP
P O Box 2379 Carlingford Court
NSW 2118, Australia
Is there anyone out there who can help with any informanion on:-
Lieutenant John Williams of His Majesty's 8th. Regiment of Dragoons, who
in 1808 was probably serving in India, possibly Bengal.
He was the "Natural or Reputed" son of Captain John Williams in the
Bengal Army of The Honorable East India Company.
Any information would be welcome, in particular anything on his parents.
Thank you in anticapation,
Bob Williams email bobjoanw(a)melbpc.org.au