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Would someone please advise me if Martiniere College
accepted only Anglo-Indian pupils.
I am seeking the following names. Lovett, Jordan, Grose,
Sylvester, Murray, Louis, Cahill & Foster.
Also could someone advise the main e-mail addresses for
Anglo Indian Associations N.Z. & Australia.
it is possible anyone on the list can help me regarding my grandfather being
my aunt has told me he was in the army in India but was cashiered
she says he had a 'swagger' stick and acted as though he was still in charge
this stick was used as a threat to his children if they were naughty
he didnt serve in the first world war as he was about 40 in 1915
he died in 1949
This ship made several voyages 1848-62 to India (Madras) and also some to N
An original letter (dated 5 Feb ??) written by a Dr Edward Somerset
CLEVELAND when in Madras roads, states his voyage from Portsmouth had taken
"4 long months and 17 days" via Cape Town.
Hope to fix the voyage-date, collect more details of the ship, and of Dr ES
Cleveland, who rose to Surgeon-Major and taking "Sick Furlough in Europe" in
Nov 1872, after exactly 20 years service. Did he then leave the Army?
A Dr Robert PLUMBE 1805-1873 approx, initially a Surgeon in the Indian Army,
then appointed Surgeon, East India Co., Madras.
Plus an HJP THOMSON, by 1884 Secretary to the Gt Indian Peninsular R'way
Would be pleased to garner any info at all.
I was searching the list archives today and was amazed to find an email from
Jill Grey that mentioned 3 members of my family as being freemasons.
Jill had found a copy of a book called Old Lahore by Col H R
Golding.(Published in 1924)
Does any one have an address to write to for further information about the
lodge in Lahore and its members?
Can this book still be obtained?
If Jill is still on the list - Is there any other information on the names
They were The Davies brothers George and James and WE Ball - James future
father in law. Both James and William Ball were printers.
Researching Cox, Clark, McGlasghan, Gilroy and Davies
Hope you are well.
There seems to have been a misunderstanding. Fr. Barber is not my friend, at least not in the last eleven years since I've been away as I rarely have the time to meet him when I'm down. I only referred him to David Barber because they shared the same name and I thought there may be a family link. I've never discussed family history stuff with Fr. Barber so I have no idea if he is interested in that sort of thing.
Sorry about that.
On another note, I should be there this month and if I get a chance to check out Fort William, I definitely will. Could you scan the plan of Fort William that you have and mail it to me as an attachment so that I have some idea what I'm talking about when I try to talk somebody into letting me in and look around!
Take care and all the best for the holiday season
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Montgomerie" <jmonte(a)globaldial.com>
To: "SD" <sandrad(a)netvigator.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [India-L] St Patricks Chapel
> Dear Sandra,
> I was interested to read your posting on this list.
> My gr gr grandparents were buried in Fort William in 1855 and 1856, but I
> understood the chapel was St Peters. I just can't remember where I got
> that information from. They were Protestant, so they would not have been
> buried in the RC section.
> I have a plan of the old Fort William and it looks as thought there is only
> one church and burial ground.
> I have been to Calcutta on a couple of occasions and tried to get into Fort
> William to have a look but with all sorts of "official pieces of paper" I
> still couldn't get permission to enter the military establishment. I
> believe some parts are open to the public on certain public holidays but I
> have never been there on those rare occasions. But then, I don't know
> whether there would be anything to see if I did gain entry. I believe the
> chapel is now a library.
> If your friend, Father Barber could throw some light on the subject, I would
> be most grateful.
> Thank you,
> Judith Montgomerie
> Perth, Western Australia
Ada Cuniingham was born 13 Oct 1874 in Bolarum, Madras, India, according to
a newspaper cutting retained by my great x 2 grandfather.
Her parents had married 24 Oct 1867 St John's Church, Bangalore, Madras,
These parents, born resepctively (we think) in Glasgow and London were:
Charles Cunningham 1841 - 1901 and
Henrietta Jane Rundall 1846 - ?
Does anyone know more about what happened to them , or concerning their
(I have a good deal on HIS maternal ancestry if anyone is interested.)
Thanks for any inputs
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon C Inglis" <gordon(a)smartbiz.org>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 7:20 AM
Subject: [India-L] Part 1 -Marriages MADRAS 1829
> Since early marriage returns can be frustrating in lacking details, and
> difficult to read I have taken particular care in extracting the same. I
> was able to eliminate the one item I was looking for as not being mine!
> _you_ find an ancestor among them please let me know (and I'll keep an eye
> open for you in the future.)
> If you are "new" to research, don't forget that witness names may hold
> clues as to relatives ... and sometimes the couples in one marriage can be
> witnesses in another.
> Hopefully you may find a name or two among the 24 marriages from this
> single page of marriage entries. I list 12 in this post and the balance in
> part 2. The males are in alphabetical order. Good luck.
> Part 1
> MARRIAGES MADRAS 1829 N2/11/743 FHL Film 0521839
> 1829 02 06 At Seringapatam by J.V. Hughs, Fort Adj.
> BENDER, George (Afst. Apothecary, Nizams Service)
> O'FLANAGHAN, Mary
> Witnesses: Francis and Mary LEWIS, James and E HAYES
> 1829 05 11 At Cuddalore by D. Rosen, Mifsionary.
> BOOT, Joseph (Pensioned Private. H.C. Service)
> PAYNE, Mary Ann (spinst)
> Witnesses: Joseph and Charlotte M POULLOCK, Pat and Theresa CONNER
> 1829 01 14 At Kamptee by Major John Gibson.
> BROCAS, George (Corporal 2nd European Regt.)
> SPID, Mary Anne (spinst).
> Witnesses: Sergt Maj. G.R. DUNCAN, Sergt W STEWART,
> Margaret HOLDEN, Mary WILLIAMS
> 1829 01 09 At Belgaum by Lieut Coll J Welsh.
> BRODLEY, Alfred (Private Madras Eur. Regt.
> GILLINGS, Ellen
> Witnesses: Robert GILLINGS, Anne and Thomas CARPENTER
> 1829 05 13 At Kamptee by Capt (H ?) Kyd.
> BROWN, Henry (Private 2nd Eur. Regt.)
> FLUKES, Jane to Jane FLUKES (spinst)
> Witnesses: Pat and Hannah WELDON, Charles and Charlotte BURNES
> 1829 05 20 At Quilon by W.P. Cunningham D.A.A.G.
> BUTLER, Thomas (bach, Gunner 1st Batt. Arty.)
> ANTHONY, Mary to Mary ANTHONY (spinst)
> Witnesses: Samuel PENDRICK, J. HAMMOND, Gunner.
> 1829 01 15 At Seringapatam by Fort Adjt. J.V. Hughes.
> CONOLLY, Matthew (Hospital Sergeant)
> MURRAY, Anna to Anna MURRAY (spinst)
> Witnesses: Barry and Elizabeth GILHALY, J BUNTS,
> Margaret CHISHOLM
> 1829 03 22 At Aurungabad byCaptn. J Locker.
> CORNELIUS, John (Drummer, 5th Regt Nizam's service).
> (not stated), Antonio
> No witnesses detailed.
> 1829 02 11 At Cuddalore by D. Rosen, Mifsy.
> CROFSWELL, James Henry (Pensioned Gunner, H.C. Service)
> KONITZ, Sarah to Sarah KONITZ (Wid.)
> Witnesses: John and Susan RONICK, Sarah and James HILLIER
> 1829 01 01 At Trevandrum by Major A St(o)rk ?.
> FITZGIBBON, Richmond Allan (Q.M Sergt 15th Regt. N.I.)
> COLLINGDON, Susannah (spinst)
> Witnesses: V.W. GRAY, Elizabeth BREDIN
> 1829 02 21 At Alleppie by Thomas Norton.
> GILLESPIE, Robert Rollo (widower, Lieut H.M. 4th Dragoons)
> Blaxland, Sally Maria (spinst)
> Witnesses: Lieut Col H.K. SMITH, Lt. D ARCHER,
> Capt Edward ARMSTRONG
> 1829 01 22 At Vizagapatam by James Dawson.
> JOHNSTON, Francis (Gunner C.E.V. Batt.)
> DORCEY, Mary Ann
> Witnesses: James and Ann BURKE
> Blessings always
> Gordon C. Inglis
> Kamloops, BC, Canada.
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Dear friends and listers,
While trawling through the archived records on
the web of the India Office, see :
I found records of some of the properties held
by the EIC, and have extracted quite a few notes,
which I will happily send to anyone asking for
them. Sorry, I�ve forgotten who recently
corresponded with me about this subject !
Meanwhile, these three below are pretty
interesting , and all of them were in the section
British Library, India Office Records: Legal
Adviser's Records [IOR/L/L/2/778 -
The Elm Grove estate at Ealing was purchased by
the Secretary of State for India from Anna Eliza
Perceval and her son Spencer Perceval for �24,500
in March 1870. Sir Matthew Digby Wyatt supervised
the conversion of the house into a lunatic asylum
for patients who had been sent home from India.
The Royal Indian Asylum opened in August 1870.
Clause 32 of the Act passed in 1878 was intended
to protect the interests of the Royal Indian
Asylum: no more than two acres of land was to be
acquired compulsorily without the consent of the
Secretary of State; the railway was to pass
through the grounds of the Asylum in a cutting; a
bridge and road over the cutting were to be
constructed and maintained; the railway was to be
fenced off from the Asylum grounds.
The Royal Indian Asylum was closed in June 1892
and the remaining patients transferred to other
institutions. The estate was sold to the
Rothschild family for housing development for
In June 1910, the Secretary of State purchased a
lease for 21 years on Cromwell House from the
trustees of the will of Charles James Freke. The
house was used as a hostel for Indian students,
and also provided accommodation for the
Educational Adviser and for societies and
associations interested in the welfare of Indian
students, such as the Northbrook Society, the
National Indian Association in aid of Social
Progress and Education in India, and the
Distressed Indian Students' Aid Committee
Ground at rear of 15 Pelham Place to be used as a
tennis lawn for visitors to 21 Cromwell Road.
2 QUEEN'S GATE TERRACE
House leased as accommodation for Indian officers
in England during World War I.
Apologies for the length of message. All good
wishes, hope this interests some of you,
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Some more Marriages from the same Vol/Folio.
I was able to eliminate the one item I was looking for as not being mine!
If _you_ find an ancestor among them please let me know (and I'll keep an
eye open for you in the future.)
I list 12 in this post and the balance in part 1. The males are in
alphabetical order. Good luck.
MARRIAGES MADRAS 1829 N2/11/743 FHL Film 0521839
1829 03 25 At Kamptee by Capt R L Leton.
KENNEDY, William (bach, Gunner 1st Bde. Horse Arty.)
BELFORD, Jane (widow)
Witnesses: William LEGGE, Mary CLARK
1829 05 11 At Cuddalore, by D. Roseu, Mifsionary.
LONG, William (Pensioned Gunner H.C. Service).
Witnesses: Joseph and Charlotte M POULLOCK,Pat and Theresa CONNER.
NOTE: also listed in Index under 1829 N2/12/237
1829 01 15 At Seringapatam by Fort Adj. J.V. Hughes.
MARLAM, John (Jeweller)
PONSINO, Anna (spinst)
Witnesses: J V Anna GILLHARDT, J HAYES, M.D. HOLMES
1829 04 28 At Bellary by Actg. Judge H Bushby.
McCLASKY, Do(netrick)? (Sergt 2nd Batt. Arty.)
PARKER, Anna (spinst)
Witnesses: W and Mary POWER, Thomas DUKES
1829 03 04 At Bellary by Actg. Judge H Bushby.
McGAHAN, Patrick (Gunner 2nd Batt Arty.)
MARTIN, Rebecca (widow)
Witnesses: David COURTNEY, Nancy (SCAMACE)?
1829 02 16 At Cuddalore by D. Rosen, Mifsy.
McPHERSON, John (Writer)
HILLIER, Caroline John McPHERSON (spinst).
Witnesses: James and Sarah HILLIER, A V J E D'LAMOREMDI(RE)?,
1829 01 19 At Cuddalore by D. Rosen, Mifsionary.
MIDDLETON, William (Pensioned Private H.C. Service)
ANDES, Mary (spinst)
Witnesses: John Velary BOON, George NICHOLAS, Antoni(a)? BENHAM
1829 01 15 At Kamptee by Lieut and Adjt. C. Grant.
NAUGHTON, Rodey (Gunner 1st Batt. Arty.)
TYNAN, Mary to Mary Tynan (widow).
Witnesses: H. DERMOTT, M FANELL
1829 02 18 At Pondicherry by D Rosen, Mifsy.
PERNON, James (occupation not stated)
St PAUL, Charlotte Caroline (spist)
Witnesses: F. St PAUL, A PERNON
1829 04 07 At Nellore by A F Bruce, Magte.
PETER, John (servant to Mr J. Simm, Afst. Surgeon)
GANIEN, Anne (spinst)
Witnesses: Capt. D ALLEN, J SIMM, Afst. Surgeon
1829 04 07 At Rajahmundry by H Alibart, Judge.
SCAWEN, Richard Woods (occupation not stated)
Witnesses: Thomas D'ROZARIO, Joachim PAULUS
1829 01 05 At Kamptee by Capt. R L Leton. (Seton?)
SMEADLY, Richard (bach, Bombadier 1st Bde H. Arty.
CLEMONS, Catherine (widow)
Witnesses: W. and Mary O' BRIAN
Gordon C. Inglis
Kamloops, BC, Canada.
Since early marriage returns can be frustrating in lacking details, and
difficult to read I have taken particular care in extracting the same. I
was able to eliminate the one item I was looking for as not being mine! If
_you_ find an ancestor among them please let me know (and I'll keep an eye
open for you in the future.)
If you are "new" to research, don't forget that witness names may hold
clues as to relatives ... and sometimes the couples in one marriage can be
witnesses in another.
Hopefully you may find a name or two among the 24 marriages from this
single page of marriage entries. I list 12 in this post and the balance in
part 2. The males are in alphabetical order. Good luck.
MARRIAGES MADRAS 1829 N2/11/743 FHL Film 0521839
1829 02 06 At Seringapatam by J.V. Hughs, Fort Adj.
BENDER, George (Afst. Apothecary, Nizams Service)
Witnesses: Francis and Mary LEWIS, James and E HAYES
1829 05 11 At Cuddalore by D. Rosen, Mifsionary.
BOOT, Joseph (Pensioned Private. H.C. Service)
PAYNE, Mary Ann (spinst)
Witnesses: Joseph and Charlotte M POULLOCK, Pat and Theresa CONNER
1829 01 14 At Kamptee by Major John Gibson.
BROCAS, George (Corporal 2nd European Regt.)
SPID, Mary Anne (spinst).
Witnesses: Sergt Maj. G.R. DUNCAN, Sergt W STEWART,
Margaret HOLDEN, Mary WILLIAMS
1829 01 09 At Belgaum by Lieut Coll J Welsh.
BRODLEY, Alfred (Private Madras Eur. Regt.
Witnesses: Robert GILLINGS, Anne and Thomas CARPENTER
1829 05 13 At Kamptee by Capt (H ?) Kyd.
BROWN, Henry (Private 2nd Eur. Regt.)
FLUKES, Jane to Jane FLUKES (spinst)
Witnesses: Pat and Hannah WELDON, Charles and Charlotte BURNES
1829 05 20 At Quilon by W.P. Cunningham D.A.A.G.
BUTLER, Thomas (bach, Gunner 1st Batt. Arty.)
ANTHONY, Mary to Mary ANTHONY (spinst)
Witnesses: Samuel PENDRICK, J. HAMMOND, Gunner.
1829 01 15 At Seringapatam by Fort Adjt. J.V. Hughes.
CONOLLY, Matthew (Hospital Sergeant)
MURRAY, Anna to Anna MURRAY (spinst)
Witnesses: Barry and Elizabeth GILHALY, J BUNTS,
1829 03 22 At Aurungabad byCaptn. J Locker.
CORNELIUS, John (Drummer, 5th Regt Nizam's service).
(not stated), Antonio
No witnesses detailed.
1829 02 11 At Cuddalore by D. Rosen, Mifsy.
CROFSWELL, James Henry (Pensioned Gunner, H.C. Service)
KONITZ, Sarah to Sarah KONITZ (Wid.)
Witnesses: John and Susan RONICK, Sarah and James HILLIER
1829 01 01 At Trevandrum by Major A St(o)rk ?.
FITZGIBBON, Richmond Allan (Q.M Sergt 15th Regt. N.I.)
COLLINGDON, Susannah (spinst)
Witnesses: V.W. GRAY, Elizabeth BREDIN
1829 02 21 At Alleppie by Thomas Norton.
GILLESPIE, Robert Rollo (widower, Lieut H.M. 4th Dragoons)
Blaxland, Sally Maria (spinst)
Witnesses: Lieut Col H.K. SMITH, Lt. D ARCHER,
Capt Edward ARMSTRONG
1829 01 22 At Vizagapatam by James Dawson.
JOHNSTON, Francis (Gunner C.E.V. Batt.)
DORCEY, Mary Ann
Witnesses: James and Ann BURKE
Gordon C. Inglis
Kamloops, BC, Canada.
BIRTH: My mother Joyce Marion Miller was born in Calcutta at the Eden Hospital on 2nd august 1926, parents names: Arthur Miller & Edna Miller( nee Moore), where & how can I obtain a birth certificate?
MARRIAGE: My parents Gilbert Gordon McIntyre and Joyce McIntyre( nee Miller), were married at the Baptist Chapel on Lower Circular Road in Calcutta, 3rd October 1945, by Reverend Horace Collins. Where and how can I get a copy of their marriage certificate?
I have been doing a bit of tidying up of my papers and came across these:-
Sellars Maureen Helen
Hubbard Jane Elizabeth Noel
Wood Kristin Ingrid
Walker Anthony Peter
Walker Nigel Hugh
Hoblyn Jennifer Jill
Miller Robert William
Collins Stanley Ian
Rouse George Alexander
any use to anyone?
Avril Anderson East Kilbride Scotland
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Is it possible that anyone may be visiting the OIOC before Christmas and
could possibly do a couple of look ups for me which are vital to my research
since I cannot visit till after the New Year.
The first is the baptism of Mary MADGE (N1/V5/F14) from which I need her
fathers name, this could possibly help me find the father of my
4xgreat-grandfather for whom I can find no baptism cert.
The second is to look for a marriage cert for Earnest Henry MADGE and
Winifred ?, sometime around 1905 or just before and see if there is a
fathers name for Earnest Henry, I cannot find a baptism record for Earnest
Henry and this could help me link to his descendants who I am in contact
I would appreciate it very much if someone could help.
Thanking you in advance
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Names being researched:
Essex - ALEY, ARNOLD, BAKER, BIRD, CARTER, CROSS, DENCH, DODD, EASTLAND, FARROW, FITCH, FULLER, GARDINER, HARDING, HAY, JAY, JONES, MILSTED, PEARSON, PICKETT, RUSS, SHEPARD, SLADE, WALDON, WALKER, WHEELER, WHITE,
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London - BUTLER, BUTTS, CARLISLE, COUCH, COULDERY, DOWELL, DURBAN, ESSEX, HALL, INGRAM, JENNINGS, LEDBROOKE, MILSTED, NICHOLSON, POTTER, RICHARDSON, SERGEANT, TEMPLE, THREADGOLD, TIZZARD, WALTON, WHITE, WILLESDEN, WILTSHIRE
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