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Just saw another letter originating in NZ re
Stonham/Wells. Dont know if its relative But will put this for General
distribution.From the copy of the Old Lawrencians Directory 1858--1989
that we have I find that your relative were admitted to the school at
Lovedale as follows::-
STONHAM Arthur Frank 13-05-1913
STONHAM Sidney Walter Victor 13 -05-1913
STONHAM Fernie Leslie 13-05-1913
STONHAM Godfrey Charles 12-02-1920
To any other listers this directory lists all students admitted between
1858--1954 and then most graduates till1989.Just call if we can be of
Regards Les and Lex (Middleton)
My father studued at Grant Medical College for a period in between 1900
and 1910. His home was in Mangalore at that time, so I imagine the
College was in Madras or in Bombay. Does anyone have any knowledge of
the College, and in particular an address which I could contact ?
List names: Le Merle, Wolfenden, D'Vaz, Lafrenais, D'Rosario, Franz,
This is a great listing. The wealth of knowledge shown by participants is
impressive. Perhaps someone can help. I'm looking for good background
reading and recently read "The Men Who Ruled India" by Philip Mason, which
was recommended by Cathy Day I believe. I found it an absorbing evaluation
of the British Raj and the individuals who participated, but it left me
wanting to know more. There is an earlier more detailed two volume version
which is difficult to get hold of. Has anyone read the two volume version
and would they recommend it or another source?
On another subject, I see that in May 1998 a list of Governors-General and
Viceroys was listed. Would it be possible to provide a similar list of
Governors of the Bengal Presidency? Also, is there a good source for
commentary about individual Governors and their times? I am particularly
interested in Augustus Rivers Thompson who was Lt. Governor of Bengal in the
Best wishes to all,
My great great great grandmother was Susan MacDonald. She was a widow of a
conductor when she married my ggg grandfather John Courtney in India,
possibly at Chunar around 1860. She died in childbirth in 1864. I would be
very interested to read the account of the mutiny.
I have a document written by my gg grandfather which you can see on my web
I'm hoping to go to the India Office at the British Library in the next few
weeks, and I will be looking for MacDonalds, so if you'd like to give me
some more information, I'll keep a lookout for you.
Researching COURTNEY, ROZALLA, FARAGE, GALLAGHER and MACDONALD in India.
From: Rob Gladstones <gwynrob(a)one.net.au>
To: INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com <INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 31 January 2000 08:13
>I am looking into my past and have found a very interesting
>connection with India.
>My great great great grandfather was a John MacDonald, who
>retired from the army with the rank of Major General. I
>think he was in Bengal. The more detailed information I have
>comes from his daughter.
>She was married to an army officer stationed at Gwalior on
>14 June 1857. (Other officers were Major Sheriff and Captain
>Stewart. Any ideas what unit this was?).
>I have a detailed account of her experience of the Mutiny
>which unfortunately does not name her husband or unit. She
>and several other women travelled from Gwalior to Agra
>(about 120 Km), a lot of it by foot. She was 5 months
>pregnant and another lady was expecting at any time. They
>arrived at Agra on the 29th June. Eventually, after being
>besieged at Agra, she arrived at her mothers home at
>She then went to England and married a Presbyterian Minister
>about 1860 (I am fairly sure she was Presbyterian herself as
>I think she was born in Moray, Scotland but I can't be
>Does this short story ring any bells for anyone? Does anyone
>have any suggestions where to look (I will be searching the
>Family History in India web site in the next few days)
>I can try to give more details if would help and if anyone
>is interested in reading the complete account (An
>interesting read) I will transcribe it and pass it on.
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This might be a possible relative of your Foster. DAVID THOMAS FOSTER
married Kathleen Francis Georgina Rogers in Rawalpindi in July 1936. He was
described as Divisional Storeman of the Allcock Oil Co. My Grandfathers
half brother William Rogers and his son Peter William were the witnesses.
William owned a large number of properties in the Rawalpindi area.
Peter D,Rogers Suffolk UK
Major-General J.D MacDonald, Bengal Staff Corps, married Mary Dougan, dau of
the Late Col. Frederick Dougan, 3rd bengal Cavalry(Dougans Horse). Had a
son- not born this way of course- he earned the awards- The Right Honorable
Sir Claude Maxwell MacDonald KCMG(1892) KCB (1898) GCMG (1900) GCVO (1906)
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Please read the letters below:
Can anyone help, as I am sure the photos mentioned in my letter below to
Ronnie would be of interest to someone, apart from my family. The
Turnbulls from Calcutta1900 - 1947 they went to the UK after that date.
Hilary Preston (Devon U.K.)
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From: Ronnie Johnson <ronnie.johnson(a)usa.net>
To: RJPreston <rjpreston(a)cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: [CALCUTTA POLICE]
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I think you better ask the India list, as since th ebooklet is published =
would cost some money, then you would be infringing on their business. If=
however, you write to the publishers and explain that you g.father's phot=
found in the booklet, and that you would like to pu tit on a personal
non-commercial page of yours, I dont think they will refuse you the permi=
to use the photos, then we can add the pictures no problem with proper cr=
and the permission used.
RJPreston <rjpreston(a)cwcom.net> wrote:
My parent have just been to visit and they have brought with them a
booklet of Photos of the Calcutta Police my grandfather being in a
couple of the photos, I had mentioned I had sent a photo via email of
my grandmother as a nurse in India ~ Kathleen Boucher.
The Booklet says:
Photypie P.-G. EVRARD
50 Avenur Secretan, 50
There are 29 seperate photos but some are combine in to a page (22 pages
in total book). Most are of Indian but some Anglo Indian and Brithish
I am not sure if there would be any copyright problems with puting them
on the site, but do you think I should mention it in the
INDIA-L(a)rootsweb.com ? Like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Hilary Preston (Devon, U.K.)
Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D=
I am looking into my past and have found a very interesting
connection with India.
My great great great grandfather was a John MacDonald, who
retired from the army with the rank of Major General. I
think he was in Bengal. The more detailed information I have
comes from his daughter.
She was married to an army officer stationed at Gwalior on
14 June 1857. (Other officers were Major Sheriff and Captain
Stewart. Any ideas what unit this was?).
I have a detailed account of her experience of the Mutiny
which unfortunately does not name her husband or unit. She
and several other women travelled from Gwalior to Agra
(about 120 Km), a lot of it by foot. She was 5 months
pregnant and another lady was expecting at any time. They
arrived at Agra on the 29th June. Eventually, after being
besieged at Agra, she arrived at her mothers home at
She then went to England and married a Presbyterian Minister
about 1860 (I am fairly sure she was Presbyterian herself as
I think she was born in Moray, Scotland but I can't be
Does this short story ring any bells for anyone? Does anyone
have any suggestions where to look (I will be searching the
Family History in India web site in the next few days)
I can try to give more details if would help and if anyone
is interested in reading the complete account (An
interesting read) I will transcribe it and pass it on.
Mrs Campbell has always replied to my letters, but please bear in mind
that she is an elderly lady and she does this out of the goodness of her
heart. The words that Don quoted about Koi Hai are from me, and are
still accurate. Koi Hai is an association of former tea planters, they
are not a genealogical society. They might provide the ocassional
anecdote about your tea planter ancestors if they lived in India in the
1930's and 1940's, but they do not hold records of graves, houses, etc.
There is a list of Church of Scotland burials in Assam (1939-1959)
which was kindly compiled by Andrew Ramsay Nicoll. The list is now at
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/assam.htm This might help some
Cathy Day of Canberra, Australia <clday(a)ozemail.com.au>
Family History in India website : http://www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/
Phyllis Steel wrote:
> I also found that web site, and had great hopes of at last finding where my Aunt was living, and dying in India, she was mattied to a Tea Planter, I sent copies of the house, and grave, to Mrs C, Campbell hoping she cold tell the loction of same, on the 3 December 1999, enclosing a self addressed, stamped, envelope for a reply, but alas, as of to-days date, NO REPLY.
> If, you do write to Mrs C. Campbell, and receive a reply, I would be interested to hear of it.
> Good Hunting
> Phyllis from Sunny Queensland, Australia
I know it can't be the same ship, but the name might have been kept "in
house" from the predecessing company. I sailed on a ship of the same
name from Bombay to Durban in 1943, and she belonged to the BISN Co
(British India Steam Navigation).
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Fred Stonham wrote:
My mother's father was a Samuel Albert WELLS, and was an Inspector of
Police. His wife was of Burmese nationality (Mia Nyo). His father was a
Henry WELLS and his father was a Samuel WELLS. Henry WELLS was married
to a Mary Anne Josephine VILLA whose father was an Andreas VILLA.
Extract from BACSA Burma, register of European Deaths and Burials.
Rangoon Cemetery - Cantonment
"Henry H Wells, Doctor, son of Samuel Wells, Gunner 3rd Battalion Artillery
and Ann Phillips. Husband of Mary Anne Josephine Villa. Died in Insein,
near Rangoon of Bright's Disease on 10th December 1901, aged 61 years."
In the same book are: -
John Ernest Gabriel Villa, died 1871
Isobel nee Paxton Villa, - " 1907
Ernest Andrea Villa - " 1931
Charles Crossthwaite Villa - " 1932
More details supplied on request
But there are no Stonhams!
Mon 31 Jan 2000
firstly, had a wonderful time at bbq, thanks
Checking the Digest today, the nos. 20 and 30 only
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1811 Bombay Military continued:
Morris John Wm.
Morris Thomas Darcy
Moyle John Grenfell
Munt Frederick G.
Napier John Philip
Patuson Thomas G.
Pedler Philip W.
Perri Robert P.
Pierce Fortunatus H.
Preston James John
Quartley William Walter
Ramsay Archibald M.
Richards James Goss
Riddell Andrew Nisbett
Rigby George A.
Roberts Thomas T.
Robertson Henry Dundas
Robertson William Donald
Salter James P.
Smith John J.
Solomon John C.
Stanley William H.
Staunton Francis F.
Strickland Jarrad L.
Strover Samuel R.
Taylor George Pearson
Taylor John (Surgeon)
Thurnam William Graham
Could anyone please assist for the gravestone inscription of
Edwin James Foster funeral at Christ Church Mussoorie 30.5.1936
Edwin was an Auditor with the J&M Railway I traced one son Clarence
Edwin F b 10.12.1902
Does anyone have any knowledge of Stephen Cahill a well known
bookmaker and member of the Calcutta Turf Club who died around
WW2. Also I have a good book about the C.T.C. which someone
if interested can have free of charge.
I am somewhat unfamiliar when it comes to research in India but from Cathy
Day's website I found the following text re Tea Planters; ""The Koi Hai
Directory is a small association of former tea planters and their wives who
served in North and South India. The Directory is a list of the present
addresses of its members. As most of the members were in India after the
1930's, there would be few who would be able to tell one much about British
Ancestry there. However, if you are seeking a relative who was a tea planter
in India in the twentieth century, then it would be worthwhile writing to
the secretary :
Mrs C. Campbell, 1b Stonefield Place, Hawick, Roxburghshire TD9 0EY,
Please enclose a stamped, self-addressed envelope if possible, as this is a
I have an ancestor James ANGUS born 1880 Midmar Aberdeenshire, died May 1915
London England. His grave marker in Cluny Aberdeenshire reads "Tea
Planter - Assam". I am intending to write to Mrs. C. Campbell of the Koi
Hai Directory in Scotland to see if there is any record of James's time or
location in India. I have not yet acquired his death cert but he apparently
in died in London on his way home to Scotland of some unknown illness
(malaria?) contracted in India. As I am in Canada and they ask for a SSAE -
my only option is to send International Reply Coupons. Could SKS suggest
how many coupons I should send to Mrs. Campbell in lieu of stamps.
Thank you for your assistance
Don in Richmond, BC, Canada
ANGUS - CRAIB - DINGWALL - MEARNS in Aberdeenshire
ASPLAND - BARBER - BENNETTON/BENNETT - EAGLE - in Norfolk > London
HAYES in London (St. John's Wood -> Kilburn -> Kingston-upon-Thames)
The Reverend John Zachariah Kiernander was the founder of the Old or Mission
Church in Calcutta. He was born on 21 November 1711 at Akstad in Sweden.
There is a full history on Page 34 of the Bengal Obituary 1848.
I am related to the Kiernanders by law, not blood, in so far as my gt gt
grandfather, John Edwin Cornelius married Mary Ann Elvira Kiernander ( the
gt granddaughter of John Zachariah Kiernander) in 1862, after the death of
his first wife, Louisa Catherine LeBlond (from whom I am descended).
I have some more information on the Kiernanders if anyone is interested !
As a new lister I am amazed at the wealth of "India" knowledge out
there. Perhaps someone has come across -
Thomas John King, my GGrandfather, was born Cheltenham, Gloucester C.
1840. As a 14 year old he came to Port Adelaide, Australia, with his
family on the "Duke of Wellington" 18/4/1855.
Although the family story tells that he was a Captain in the Indian
Army, I have found him in Thackers Bengal Directory of 1866 as T.J.
King, Printer, Darjeeling, and under Commercial Trade, Albion Press,
Manager, T.J. King. Could he be both? A letter from his stepmother to
her sister in 1868 mentioned that their reduced financial circumstances
were in part a result of "the sending to India for Tom, and then his
being ill for so long and not able to do anything has become a great
drawback, but we are now in hope he will have constant work at the
Government Printing Office".
By 1874 he was back in England where he married as a widower, to widow,
Alice Dibben, nee Fielder in Southampton.
He came to Australia again in 1883, with his second family, where he
died in Sydney in 1885, from "Rheumatism". His death certificate stated
that his first wife and two children died in India. Their names and
details remain unknown.
Has anyone come across Thomas John King, Albion Press, or any records
pertaining to them.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Research Names in India: King, Woodcroft.