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sorry to post the following here but I have for some reason, only half "
alphilipp ",s E-mail address.
This to Alphilipp, Ref. LDS 521853
Sorry Al., but no Marriage entry for Thomas & Caroline EVANS for 1865.
We found the following though, I hope that it may be of interest.
26/4/1865 Marriage at Shennoga , Seamderabad.
JOSEPH EVANS , age 25 yrs. Rank- Artificer Ordinance Dept. ( as written ! ).
Abode - Seamderabad. To MARY ELLIS . age 18
Fathers- THOMAS EVANS & JOSEPH ELLIS.
>From Roger Capewell Derbyshire UK ( researching
Capewell & Kent ( India ) & Loker ( UK )
Groom Bride Year Volume Folio
WOODWARD, James to GOLDSTEN, Elizabeth 1873-144-69(?)
WILSON, John to DUFFY, Margaret 1872-142-243
WILSON, Alfred J to WILLIAMS, Rose M 1872-140-85
WILSON, James to RYPER, Alice 1871-136-235
WILSON, Henry A to DAVIES, Emma O 1871-137-92
WILSON, William J W to MACFARLANE, Margaret 1871-137-250
WILSON, William G M to O'SULLIVAN, Ellen 1871-138-204
WILSON, George to MARSHALL, Wilhelmina A 1871-138-211
WILLSON, Herald to WILLSON, Sarah A 1871-138-405
WOODWARD, Joseph A to JEFFERSON, Catherine R 1871-138-408
WOOLAM, William D to NEULESHIKA (??), Sophia E 1870-134-84
WOODWARD, Alfred to STEVENSON, Eliza J 1870-134-84
WILSON, Henry G to PITTAS, Elizabeth 1869-127-82
WILSON, George H to JACKSON, Charlotte 1868-124-92(?)
WILSON, John to FLEMING, Eleanor M 1868-124-86
WILSON, Roberts to LEWIS, Isabelle 1868-123-89
WILSON, Stephen to TUBB, Emma 1867-121-71
Here are some more marriages as requested:
Groom Bride Year Volume Folio
PETERS, John to BAXTER, Jane E 1869-128-74
PETERS, Charles to GRAHAM, Victoria 1869-128-274
PORTER, Grahaeme(?) to BROOKS, Blanche E 1869-130-111
PETERS, Ardall to PANISTRY, Photiny 1871-135-268
PHIPPS, Daniel to BASSETT, Mary J 1871-137-202
PETERS, John to CONNER, Emilia 1872-139-102
PETERS, Richard M to PINTO, Helena A 1873-144-73
YORK, Joseph to BRANDON, Harriett 1865-114-52/552 (??)
YORK, William to HUNTER, Martha C 1866-117-80
YORKE, David to PEARCE, Eliza C 1872-142-81
WILSON, Charles G to BLOWER, Caroline 1873-146-111
WILSON, Samuel to TURNER, Isabella R J 1873-144-88
WOODWARD, Edwin to HOPKINS, Mary J 1873-145-70
WILSON, Robert to BROOKS, Mary 1873-145-75
WILSON, William A to CORBETT, Helen N M 1873-145-84
WOODWARD, Joseph V to DERRICK, Mary A 1873-146-84
Douglas Augier wrote:
> Can anybody who read the item on Fort William guess what
> " the most is fry and has a lunette in the middle" should be.
> A typing error which the spelling checker agreed with.
Douglas ... I really do think INDIA-L is quite the best thing since the
Mad Hatter's Tea Party!!!
Given that there's a fosse around the octagonal enclosure, I imagine
the writer must have observed from the middle that the moat was dry,
whereupon he would have been removed without delay to the nearest
lunette asylum!! ;-)
Good morning to all
I would hazard a guess at "...the moat is dry and has a lunette in the
middle" A "lunette" is a fortification of some sort: according to my
dictionary "larger than a redan, with two faces and two flanks". A "redan"
is a fieldwork with two faces forming a salient angle".
If nothing else, this List certainly is educational and leads one down some
Time to go to work.
Regards to all, Pat
In message <361212F4.9DCC3B9(a)virgin.net>, Edward McKillop Nicholl
>In the "Times" newspaper yesterday there was an article on a re-union of
>old boys of the Sheikh Bagh Missionary School for Boys in Srinigar.
>This school was founded in 1940 by Canon Eric Tyndale-Biscoe.
>The name Tyndale-Biscoe crops up frequently in letters written by my
>step-grandmother, Clara Louise warren, who was a CMS Missionary in
>Clarkabad in 1890 - 1893.
>Anybody know anything about the Tyndale-Biscoes? I'm just curious.
The family were missionaries in Kashmir, and wrote several books about
their time and work there. One in my collection is "Kashmir in sunlight
and in shade" by C.E. Tyndale Biscoe M.A. My copy is the 2nd edition
published in London in 1925 by Seeley Service & Co. Ltd.
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In the "Times" newspaper yesterday there was an article on a re-union of
old boys of the Sheikh Bagh Missionary School for Boys in Srinigar.
This school was founded in 1940 by Canon Eric Tyndale-Biscoe.
The name Tyndale-Biscoe crops up frequently in letters written by my
step-grandmother, Clara Louise warren, who was a CMS Missionary in
Clarkabad in 1890 - 1893.
Anybody know anything about the Tyndale-Biscoes? I'm just curious.
Visit the Nicholl Family Web Site at
"The dung beetle will enter a mouth that is always open" - Albanian
Can anybody who read the item on Fort William guess what
" the most is fry and has a lunette in the middle" should be.
A typing error which the spelling checker agreed with.
Has anyone got a "Reading Checker"? "Thinking checker?" "Chubby xxxxxx??"
The answer will be given next week.
Douglas & Audrey Augier
I was reading last night British Rule in Burma 1824-1942 by G E Harvey
He made a couple of interesting points, among many, that might be relevant
(I) The big English firms in Rangoon didn't get going until 1870 after the
Suez Canal was opened and the majority of the trade was with India.
(ii) Of the 3,200 civil officers who administered Burma in 1931 only 715
(or 22%) were English and "only 500 of these were bred in England (!), the
rest being bred in the East or partly of Asiatic descent".
(iii) In 1824 the beginning of the First Burmese War, 40,000 soldiers were
marched to the Burma plains, they had a diet of rum and preserved pork,
15,000 died of sickness and only 400 died as battle casualties.
: Would someone share a brief history of Fort Williams with me?
>From "The Good Old Days of Honorable John Company "By WH Carey 1862
>From Chapter Calcutta Restored.
"Fort William was begun by Lord Clive after the battle of Plassey in 1758,
about a mile to the southward of the of fort, on the site of a thick forest
and two villages, the inhabitants of which had been induced to settle in
Calcutta by the Seth, a wealth mercantile family. Where the splendid housed
of Chowringee now stand a miserable village surrounded by marshy pools
existed in 1717; and even in 1756, when Seraj-o-dowlah took the place, only
seventy houses were inhabited by Englishmen. The citadel of Fort William
cost two million sterling; but it on so great a scale, that a garrison of
15,000 men is require for its defence. It is built in the form of an
octagon, and is fortified according to Vauban's system; three of the fronts
however are turned towards the Hoogly to command the river, deviate from
the regular form. The five sides are inland; the bastions have all very
salient orisons behind which retire circular flanks; the most is fry and
has lunette in the middle, but it can be laid under water by means of two
sluices. In front of every courtine is a ravelin, the faces of which mount
twenty-six pieces of heavy artillery. the demi bastions on each side are
covered by a counter guard, the faces of which are likewise defended by
twenty-six guns. In the interior of the citadel are bomb-proof barrack, the
arsenal, and the magazines. The garrison consists of two European
regiments, on of sepoys, and a few companies of artillery; because the
principal station is at Barrackpore, thirteen mils distant, where there are
7,000 men. The arsenal contains arms of 80,000 men. Close to it some works
have been erected by means of which the whole may be laid under water in a
very short time. An artesian well was begun some years ago, but afterwards
abandoned. In boring this well the bones of dogs were discovered at the
depth of 150 feet !"
The spelling checker is going to have a wonderful time with orillons,
courtine and ravelin and lunette.
Could not find an artificer in the Fort. But will try.
Douglas & Audrey Augier
Since we are on the subject of Allahabad, I have a copy of a page of
marriages solemnized at Allahabad in 1843, with the following names:
Robert PILBEARN to Mary Ann COX
Edward JENNINGS to Mary Elizabeth MOTT
William COX to Elizabeth LANG
William WHITE to Mary Ann Staunton (this is mine!)
William DOLBY to Cecilia SETH
If anyone wishes to have the particulars of each, just e-mail me
I also have a poor copy of a page of Burials in Chunar 1827 - I will
post the names if you like - there are 20-25 names. I have a very, very
poor copy of a page of marriages in Chunar 1827 with the following
Benjn THURSFIELD to Elizth CRIEGH
Robt BERRILL to Mary Ann Staunton (Mary Ann's mother remarried)
James GRIFFITHS to Charlotte ROOKE
This page is extremely poor, and I can't give all the details, but
anyone who wants what I have can contact me.
This name of Allahabad has come up a couple of times recently, so I
thought that I would tap our knowledge pool.
My Great Grandfather, one James Cooper Robertson, a rising Foreman
in one of Dundee's textile manufacturing companies, parachuted himself
into Allahabad in 1875, at the time of one of several slumps in the flax,
and jute trade, usually after a war which had consumed vast quantities of
sails, rigging, and hawsers!
Thackers Indian directory for 1875 lists him as "mgte & collr".What can
that mean? The 1876 Directory lists him as "Engineer - Serajgunge Jute co
Ltd", and yes he was trained as an Engineer, and latterly rose to be a Gen
Mgr of mills at Serajgunge.
I have spotted Allahabad, west of Benares, on the ganges River, looks to be
a sizeable place, in a cotton, cattle and carpets area! but where is
Serajgunge? Much nearer Calcutta I believe but where exactly?
I have a fascinating Map from the Harmsworth Universal Atlas
Nos 113-114 - Indian empire - Industries & Communications. It bears several
sources - The London Geographical Institute, George Philip & Son, and The
Amalgamated Press Ltd, London. It looks to be around the 1930
vintage. The Sea passage times are fascinating, and may give a clue -
Colombo-Aden 7days, Bombay - Aden 5 days, Bombay - Zanzibar 11 days.
Any tips would be welcome on my two townships, or Jute Mills.
I know there were two Roberts in Allahabad in the 50s and 60s when I was
there. They are both dead now. One of them married Airforce Officer
Gordon Carver and the other was married to Mr Cottee, their children are
still alive and living in Allahabad and England. They could be related
to your Roberts. I can find out for you.
> I am researching ROBERTS of Mhow, Dum Dum (Calcutta), Allahabad and
> Asansol up to the 1940s, and intertwined with that, CHRIS(T)MAS and
> WALLELLY (nee LECKY) in Cawnpore (Kanpur).
> I would appreciate some ideas on how to track down the HIGHLAND
> PRINCESS, the ship on which my section of the ROBERTS family came to
> in late 1948/early 1949. I haven't been able to find any confirming
> information about this ship, even as to whether it was a troopship or
> just a passenger ship.
> Am new to this kind of research, so please, be gentle on me when it
> comes to advise!
> Any help most appreciated - find the list an absolutely wonderful
> of information and light relief!!
> Delia, NZ
> ==== INDIA Mailing List ====
> For a list of professional researchers who specialise in
> India and/or military records, see the webpage at :
Hello to all Rooters,
Below are extracts from the information I copied from the British Library
while on a short holiday in London, England. Should any of these names be
of interest to you, please contact me and I will e-mail you more details.
I am still in search of the birth, marriage and death of my grandfather
and grandmother. I have very little to go on, other than their names and
places they were at on specific dates.
My grandfather's name is Willian Hypolette Daroux and grandmothers name
Mary. On April 8th. 1987, when my father Albert Daniel Daroux was born,
they lived in Ghorpadi, Poona. William Hypolette Daroux was an Engine
Driver on the S.M. Railway. The information thats been passed on by
word-of-mouth through the years is that from my fathers side, either my
grandfather or ggfather, was born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Any information on the above would be appreciated.
WHEN AND NAME OF PARTIES AGE
Aug. 24th 1874 William Daroux 33
Secunderabad Alice Maud Mary Carter 15
Oct. 3ed 1883 Harry James Potter 21
All Saints Church Elizabeth Stempson 17
Aug. 15th. 1929 Albert Daniel Daroux 42
St Patricks Church Mabel Hilda Vigor (Gordon) 29
Aug 13th 1874 Alexander Stephen Collie 22
Secunderabad Grace Amelia Priestly 17
Sept 2nd 1874 Walter Blachlaws 29
Secunderabad Catherine Maria Cummings 20
Sept 15th 1874 William Tindall Meldrum 32
Secunderabad Harriett Ann Kent 17
July 27th 1929 Robert Anthony Roe 28
Cawnpore Vera Samuel 18
Sept 15th 1929 Percy Roland Sherred 29
Cawnpore Phyllis Marjoree Tookey 30
Note: There is an underscore between the e and P in Home Pages that does
not show on some email. Please correct the URL if omitted.
The English language has such a rich vocabulary because it has a
tradition of flexibility.
Unlike the French language which has an academy to 'protect' it, the
English language needs no protection. The people who use the language
give it life and enrich it.
It is words like Articifer that come off the pens and out of the mouths
of people, that gain credence, because that's what the people want.
Compilers of dictionaries and academics are not leaders, they play catch
up. That is the way it has always been, and that is the way it should
Tried to send direct but was returned...
From: "Susan St. John" <stjohnrltr(a)earthlink.net>
I, too, am researching a Smith...August Edward Smith, my grgrd father, born
in Calucutta in 1862 and his parents whose names I don't have at the tip of
my fingers at the moment. But if you happen to run into him please let me
Susan St. John (Orvis)
Please add my name to the new India Family History Society list.
Can't promise to be proactive within it but would like to be able to
contribute when I can.
Alan Smith, Shenfield, Essex
Whew! I never knew it was so difficult getting Anglo-Indians (those I know
in India) to give me their particulars. They procrastinate and they
Anyhow, I now have five names (other than my own) on my Anglo-Indian
Lynette Aloysius (nee Rodrigues), Jennifer Pacheco (nee Rodrigues), David
Pacheco, Joan Pinto (nee Woods) and Richard Thomas.
Potentially (if you include partners/spouses) 10 people to get in touch with
and who are looking for friends, relatives, etc.
Please do drop by my web-page and see if you know any one of them.
Joan Pinto ... this is a note for you ... I tried e-mailing you but did not
get a response, so I wonder if it went astray? There are two people who are
interested in getting in touch with you. This is a Richard Draper and a
Ramesh Menon. Richard does not have an e-mail address, but I am in touch
with his family in Chennai. Ramesh lives in Vancouver Canada and wants me to
give him your e-mail address. Shall I do so? Please do let me know. I am
copying this portion of the posting to the e-mail address you gave me. Hope
something reaches you.