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The Indexes mentioned below from Christopher Hewson's post have been
microfiched by the GRO, formerly St catherine's House, and the
certificates from them are available from the same sources as the St
Cath's ones. No Sure of their costs though.
> 3 The 1761-1924 Indexes to Regimental Registers of Births .
> If the birth was to an army family living in married quarters
> as not been filmed. This index is held at 'Family Records
> (F.R.C.)formerly at St. Catherine's House
> 4 The 1849-1965 Indexes to Consular Registers of Births
> has not been filmed. This index is held at 'Family Records
> (F.R.C.)formerly at St. Catherine's House
I've been researching my Indian ancestry for some nine years, almost
exclusively through a local LDS Family History Centre, though I recently
went to London and did a little bit there too.
The amount of archival material available through the LDS is quite
staggering and anyone who has not yet done so should really visit and take
a look at the Library Catalogue.
To answer one or two questions I've seen posted over the past few days:-
1. I'm not aware that there any glaring omissions in the BDM registers
available on film. These records run from 1730 to 1947 and are indexed.
The index films are divided into the three Presidencies, then Births,
Deaths or Marriages and each film covers a varying period dependant on the
number of entries each contains. The indexes contain only name and
reference number - no placename is given. But, given the reference number
one can then obtain a film which again may cover a varying number of yearly
quarters, but contains all births, deaths and marriages for the period, in
2. The records contain a varying amount of information, depending on the
period. Early ones - perhaps to around 1858 - are fairly scrappy, but
thereafter they are as good as any certificate one might obtain from the
PRO, London. Family History Centres usually have a reader/printer and can
supply copies of any page. Our local cost is NZ50c.
3. Again depending on the period of interest, Catholic events may be
indexed and filmed separately but generally one can find ALL events,
including non-Conformist, Military and Registry Office records on the same
4. Note: the films are not of the actual Parish Registers, etc., but of the
quarterly/annual returns to London.
5. There are thousands of films available regarding other subjects -
Recruitment registers and embarkation lists for the HEIC Army, Maritime,
Directories, etc., etc..
6. I'm a librarian at our local FHC but couldn't begin to detail all that
is on tap. YOU MUST LOOK AT THE CATALOGUE!
Regards, Ray Osborn
In answer to Perry Troutman's question (and because I get asked this a
lot), the INDIA-L Mailing List is *NOT* the 'successor' to India-Roots
and has no connection with it. India-Roots was run by Dominic Godfrey in
the United States and was a moderated list. It never had more than 80
members and it quietly collapsed, with no warning, in about Novemver last
year. It lasted about six months I think.
INDIA-L is run by me and is an unmoderated list (which means that I trust
you all and you can send messages directly to the list without having to
go through me first). It has been running only since 4 July 1997 and
currently has 115 members, with new ones joining at the rate of about 1
or 2 a day (Perry Troutman is the latest!).
There is no danger that INDIA-L will collapse. For one thing, if I drop
dead tomorrow, those already on the list will be able to send mail to
each other! Secondly, each week I print out a current list of
subscribers. If something terrible happened to rootsweb.com (the server
on which INDIA-L resides in the United States) at the very least I could
send messages to everyone telling them what happened while I found a new
home for INDIA-L.
I don't charge anything for INDIA-L (although I have to pay fees to
rootsweb.com), so if any of you have inherited millions of dollars while
researching your British ancestry in India, please feel free to send
several million my way! :-)
Finally, I live in Alice Springs in central Australia, which is about as
far from civilization as it is possible to get without using the
Pathfinder space probe. I have no access to any genealogical resources at
all, so I can't do any research for anyone (I get asked this a lot too).
I also REALLY appreciate it when kind souls offer to help others on the
list who don't have access to many records.
I have been researching my British ancestry in India, Burma and Pakistan
for 22 years (since I was 13 years old, in case you're wondering!) and
would consider myself an expert in ONLY A FEW aspects of research in the
sub-continent. However, not many families followed the genealogical path
of mine (strictly British Army; staying mostly within the Madras
Presidency; always marrying in Anglican churches) so there are huge slabs
of research that I know little about (like HEIC Army and civil service,
indigo and tea plantations, missionaries, non-Anglican churches). Thus, I
started the INDIA-L mailing list so that other people might be able to
answer the questions that I am asked every day through my website. I'm
delighted to say that it has been a great success so far, and I've learnt
a lot from others on the list. So far, I've been told of two members who
discovered that they were related through this mailing list, another who
was given an extensive family tree, plus many others who have been able
to make significant progress after learning something on the list. If you
have success stories, I'd love to hear them! :-)
For researching European ancestry in India, Pakistan or Burma, visit
British Ancestors in India at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/
or join the INDIA mailing list by sending a message containing only
'subscribe' (without quotes) to INDIA-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
I think Sadida has a good idea, so here is my intro.
I was born in July 1947 in the Military Hospital, New Delhi. My father
had transfered to the British Army so we were repatriated leaving India
before independance, so I remember nothing of India. I was a system
programmer but was retired for health reasons. I have multiple sclerosis.
My father was a domiciled european :-
Noel Albany Greenwood.
born : Agra 2nd July 1913
1 brother and 1 sister - names not known. (my father never spoke of
My grandfather was a schoolteacher.
My great grandfather was the superintendant of the orphanage of st
Giles(?) Cathedral, Madras.
My great great grandfather (Joseph Greenwood) is described in a document
as a private in the ELI. Any information as to what the ELI was would be
My mother was an Anglo-Indian.
Jean Enid Lewis, born Quetta.
Her father was a guard on the North West Railway Co.
She is decended from two soldiers of the EIC.
? Sullivan - Enlisted 1845 in Cork.
? Kennedy - Enlisted 1845 in Bristol.
They were both in the Artillery.
I have been told the following information and would like to know your comments.
1: OIOC only have 80 % of all Baptisms, Marriages, Burials for India.
2: The volumes for Reg Marriages have not been filmed so once you
have the Volumn and Page you need to get the staff at OIOC to do
a paper photocopy for cost of 1 pound per page.
3 The 1761-1924 Indexes to Regimental Registers of Births .
If the birth was to an army family living in married quarters abroad
as not been filmed. This index is held at 'Family Records Centre'
(F.R.C.)formerly at St. Catherine's House
4 The 1849-1965 Indexes to Consular Registers of Births
has not been filmed. This index is held at 'Family Records Centre'
(F.R.C.)formerly at St. Catherine's House
5 The fee for checking either index is AUS $7.00 and if index found,
a relevant copy cert. is AUS $20.00
6 Once you have the standard volume numbers and page numbers, you can
get the LDS library at Salt Lake City (SLC)to photocopy the page
for 25c (U.S.) for each page copied, with a minimum order of
$2.00. This takes about 10-12 weeks.
Hope someone can help clear up the 6 question.
Perth Western Australia
>In message <3401EC7F.209D(a)ozemail.com.au>, Cathy Day
>> Just a reminder (or a new piece of information for those who
>>don't know!) that ALL the OIOC (former India Office) records for
>>baptisms, marriages and burials have been microfilmed by the Mormons and
>>are available for a very small fee at your nearest Family History Centre.
>>If you are only looking for church records, then there is no need to go
>>to the OIOC and pay enormous sums of money. I don't know about anyone
>>else, but I could do with a way to save money! :-)
>For the record, the reason it is expensive to order a copy of a
>baptismal record directly from the OIOC, is that such a record is an
>official one that can be used as proof of birth in situations such as
>citizenship applications. People such as Sir Cliff Richard and Spike
>Milligan who were born in India prior to 15 Aug 1947 have no birth
>certificates, and the nearest official certificate they can get is one
>ordered as you have described from the OIOC.
>By far the cheaper way to get one is to ask for an 'unofficial'
>photocopy from the OIOC, which is typically 40 pence. On top of that
>you'll have to pay a researcher's fee to find the film, but typically
>that takes just a few minutes.
>And in case anyone is confused, OIOC = Oriental and India Office
>Collections. The OIOC are stored in the IOLR. IOLR = India Office
>Library and Records. The IOLR is a part of the BL. BL = British Library.
>We do love our bureaucracy and acronyms. :)
>Drake Software web site at http://www.tdrake.demon.co.uk/
Hello Cathy and Everyone :)
It was nice to read a little intro about Cathy. I was hoping that we can
all send brief introductions so that we can put a "face" to the email.
Well i will start to make it as painless :) as possible.
I am actually NOT of British or European ancestry. My folks were the
"natives". I am of Muslim background. My relatives lived in the general
area Cathy's did. Arcot and Madras. My g-g-g-grandfather served as a
minister of the Nawab of Arcot.
I am researching the British in this area of India to see how the people
interacted on a personal level.
I was born and raised in Hyderabad and migrated to the USA in 1981.
Nice to have met all of you,
It's interesting that the list of "approved OIOC researchers" supplied
by the British Library contains only 9 names. Of these, 3 do not
provide a telephone number, only 3 quote a fax number and none of them
publishes an email number. There may be good reason for this, but one
is left with the impression that they may be a little out of touch with
modern comminication techniques!
Has anyone on the list had any experience with OIOC research by other
more "switched on" researchers? Any recommendations?
Brenton C. Wood
South Australia 5066
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I am researching JOHN HILLER, my g-g-grandfather, from Wu"rttemberg who was a
Lutheran medical missionary in India (some documents say "East India [or
Indies]) in the 1840s.
He and his family entered the US in the first half of the 1850s, living
briefly in New York City. By 1860 (Federal Census for Illinois) he was
living with his wife Charlotte and children John (14), Hermann (13), Maria
(11), Martha (10)--all born in India--and George (5) born in New York and
Henrietta (3) born in Mt. Carmel, Wabash Co, Illinois (their place of
residence at the time of the census).
1) Has anyone researching British India come across this surname?
2) Where might "Bettighery" be located (where John, the oldest child was
born)? John is my g-grandfather.
3) Is it likely that records exist for the birth and baptism of the four
Lutheran Hiller children born in India?
I was subscribed to INDIA-ROOTS but sometime last year everything went silent
and I lost contact. Is INDIA-L the successor to INDIA-ROOTS? Anyway, I am
pleased to be back in contact with an INDIA list.
Towards the end of the year I will be visiting India and re-visiting the
following Cemeteries : Jhansi Cemetery (where the Mutiny took place)
which is down from Agra, then down to Hyderabad Deccan -- Secunderabad
Cemetery, Llalaguda Cemetery and then back to Jhansi area --- out to
Saugor Cemetery and Khurai Cemetery.
In the Jhansi Cemetery there are many Mutiny graves, and inside a sort
of portico there is a large marble plate in the floor which contains
details of the Mutiny and various names on it. These may prove
interesting to those interested in ancestors who died during the Mutiny.
From a previous trip (3 years ago) I have photographs detailing these
names. I will that photograph and on an email send the names in case
they apply to someone out there.
In message <3401EC7F.209D(a)ozemail.com.au>, Cathy Day
> Just a reminder (or a new piece of information for those who
>don't know!) that ALL the OIOC (former India Office) records for
>baptisms, marriages and burials have been microfilmed by the Mormons and
>are available for a very small fee at your nearest Family History Centre.
>If you are only looking for church records, then there is no need to go
>to the OIOC and pay enormous sums of money. I don't know about anyone
>else, but I could do with a way to save money! :-)
For the record, the reason it is expensive to order a copy of a
baptismal record directly from the OIOC, is that such a record is an
official one that can be used as proof of birth in situations such as
citizenship applications. People such as Sir Cliff Richard and Spike
Milligan who were born in India prior to 15 Aug 1947 have no birth
certificates, and the nearest official certificate they can get is one
ordered as you have described from the OIOC.
By far the cheaper way to get one is to ask for an 'unofficial'
photocopy from the OIOC, which is typically 40 pence. On top of that
you'll have to pay a researcher's fee to find the film, but typically
that takes just a few minutes.
And in case anyone is confused, OIOC = Oriental and India Office
Collections. The OIOC are stored in the IOLR. IOLR = India Office
Library and Records. The IOLR is a part of the BL. BL = British Library.
We do love our bureaucracy and acronyms. :)
Drake Software web site at http://www.tdrake.demon.co.uk/
So many names coming up here each day, so few that I have heard of... Has
anyone heard of any of these I wonder...?
This is a list of miscellaneous people connected with the lives of my
ancestors. Most of them, unless otherwise stated, were in the Madras presidency.
ANDERSON Rev J. - board of the General Assembly's Mission, 1840
ANDERSON James - natural father of Francis Anderson who married
ARBUTHNOT G. - subsribing member of the Soc. for Promoting Christian
ARBUTHNOT and Co. Messrs - Agents for the isles of Ceylon, French and Dutch
settlements on the Coromandel Coast and Victuallars for H.M. Navy. There
name appears on the Council of State for India; Employers of George Emanuel
Johnston and Peter Carstairs; treasurers of the Society for Promot-ing
ARBUTHNOT W. Esq. - Present at the annual meeting of the S.P.G. in London,
17.2.1860. [The Mission Field vol 5. p.71]
ARUPLAPPEN David - the first native clergyman [died c. 1866]
ATTRILL - Patricia Ann - niece and beneficiary of Louise Blanche Kearns
BAKER Henry - missionary, baptised J.C. Roberts, Cottayam mission, 1828.
BANCROFT A. - witness at the m. of Esther Matilda Roberts, 1858.
BASIN S.K. - witness at the m. of Edward Roland Kearns, 1931.
BINNYS - merchants and agents; employers of Peter Carstairs before he
BOWER Rev Dr - principal of the Vediarpuram Seminary, (S.P.G.) 1844.58.
BROTHERTON A.A. - missionary of the S.P.G. Tanjore, 1840; witness at the m.
of Joseph Roberts and Francis Saalfelt, [Nigapatam] 1841.
BROTHERTON Thomas - missionary who married Joseph Roberts and Francis
Saalfelt, [Nigapatam] 1841.
BRUCE A.F. - subsribing member of the Soc. for Promoting Christian
Know-ledge; had a son on 24.10.1833/4, at Nellore.
BRUCE James Carstairs - of (Balchrister), uncle of Peter Carstairs.
BRUCE Peter - father of Peter Carstairs; assistant to Accountant General,
Madras; Judge and Magistrate; died Gooty 2.9.1821.
BURTON R.H. - witness at the m. of Edwin Carstairs Kearns, 1898.
CAMPBELL Rev. C. - missionary of the London Missionary Soc. in Mysore, 1840.
CARSTAIRS C. - witness to Mary Lee's will, 1825.
CARSTAIRS Peter - 1801-1861; a.k.a. Peter Bruce/Peter Gardiner, natural son
of Mary Bruce Gardiner and Peter Bruce; m. Charlotte McLeod [N2/9/373],
then Elizabeth Jones;
CARSTAIRS Peter McLeod - son of Peter Carstairs; partner in the firm of Shaw
and co. [Madras Almanac 1858, p. 628]
[COLLACK H.A. - witness at the m. of S.J. Rose and Mable Carvalho, 1897.]
[COLLYER G. - witness at the m. of S.J. Rose and Mable Carvalho, 1897.]
[COURPLAIS] A.G. - witness at the m. of Joseph Roberts and Francis Saalfelt,
? COLE - executor of Peter Carstairs' will, 1821.
COX Rev. Johm - officiated at marriage of C.E. Roberts; listed as of L.M.S.
Trivandrum, under religious soc. Madras Almanac 1852, p. 273
CRAWFORD Hugh - signatory on Peter Carstairs' will, 1846.
DAVID Rev A. - in Sawyerpooram with Mr Leeper; a memoir of him written by
J.F.K. [The Mission Field vol 11. p.101] low caste Indian involved in furore
over using a well.
DACRE Joseph - executor of Peter Carstair-s' will, 1821.
DINTON Rev R.A. - buried "Mrs" Mary Lee, 1825. [N"/10/488]
ENGEROFF Berthold - m. Annie Seymour Rose, 20.12.1886, Madras; witness at
the m. of Arthur Symonds Kearns and Adela Maud Rose, 1889.
ENGEROFF Florence Dorothy - daughter of Berthold Engeroff and Analize
Seymour Rose; m. Herbert Max Cole, Crowborough 1925.
[FAWCETT George William - 1852-1891; Madras civil service; buried St
George's Cathedral. [monumental inscriptions.]
FLAVELL Louise - wife of Revd. Thomas Flavell, living in Plymouth with
Hannah Elizabeth Kearns and witness to her will 1894.
[GARDINER John - buried Washermanpettah cemetery, Madras. Died 23.9.1862
aged 49. Captain of the barque Helen Wallace; born Jersey 12.9.1828.]
GARDINER Mary Bruce - born 1782/3 of a Mohammedan woman and Lieut. Gardner,
an ensign. [N2/11/43] De facto wife of Peter Bruce and later Nebuchadnezzar
GARDINER Peter - "an idiot" uncle of Peter Carstairs.
[GARDINER Lieut Peter - buried St Mary's Cemetery, Madras. Died 17.5.1808
[GARDINER William Pierrepont - buried in St Mary's Cemetery, Madras. Died
8.11.1831 aged 30. Captain in the Madras European Regiment.]
GARRETT A.H. - witness at the m. of Fanny Amelia Kearns and A.W. Smart, 1876.
GILL Captain - had a yacht which J.F.K. used to get about in. [Mission
Field vol 2 pp. 129 & 132]
GELL Miss - in receipt of letter from Hannah Kearns [CWW 174 f.1]
HOLDEN David - S.P.G. schoolmaster who travelled out with J.F. Kearns, 1849.
HUXTABLE Rev A. - missionary of S.P.G. who went out to India at the same
time as J.F. Kearns, 1849.
HUXTABLE E. - witness at the marriage of Mary Catherine Roberts and
Frederick James Leeper, 3.7.1857.
HUXTABLE H.C. - missionary who buried young Mary Emily Kearns 27.4.1856 and
who married Mary Catherine Roberts and Frederick James Leeper, 3.7.1857.
JARBO Peter - missionary of S.P.G. who went out to India at the same time as
J.F. Kearns, 1849.
[JENKINS Rev. John - Wesleyan missionary stationed in Madras, 1840.]
JENKINS Canon Illtyd Stephen - m. Mary Lilian Rose; d.
[JOHNSTON Alex - m. Barbara McLeod, Madras, 28.4.1825/6]
JOHNSTON (JC.) - Witness at the m. of Esther M. Roberts and W.J. Rose, 1858.
JOHNSTON George Emanuel - b.1812; Head of the office of Messrs Arbuthnot and
Co. Fa-th-er of Joseph Carstairs Roberts Johnston; m. Emily Suzannah
Roberts; executor of Joseph Roberts' will.
[JOHNSTON Mr R.D. - assistant missionary, London Missionary Soc, (Madras
[JOHNSTON Rev Robert - superintendent of the General Assembly's Mission St
Andrew's School for native Education; missionary of the Church of Scot-land;
Erabauloo Chetty Street. (Madras Almanac 1840)]
JONES Elizabeth - 2nd wife of Peter Carstairs, m.14.6.1831.
JONES M. - witness at the m. of William Irving Kearns and A.M. Nickels, 1887.
KAY Rev W.H. - missionary at Combaconum, officiated at J.F. Kearns' funeral,
KEARNS Edward Roland - 1895-1954; son of William Irving Kearns; pilot with
Hooghly Pilot Service; m. Ethel Maud Taylor, 1931.
KERRIDGE Douglas - Married Olive Winifred Jones Kearns 1914; witness at the
wedding of Edith Violet Kearns and H.A. Starkey, 1912.
KIDD Gladys - Purveyor of the info on "Captain" John Roberts etc.
KIDD D.A. - student at Sullivans Gardens, who took his BA at Madras
university Feb 1868.
KIDD Rev. (J.T.D.) - father of D.A. Kidd and chaplain in the Madras
es-tablish-ment. [CLR 50 f.195]
KINNEARD JOHN - witness at the marriage of Mary Catherine Roberts and
Frederick James Leeper, 3.7.1857.
KING EARNEST. E. - married Ethel Lavinia Kearns, 1920.
KIPPING JANET - niece and beneficiary of Louise Blanche Kearns' will, 1976.
[KOHLHOFF Rev C.S. - principal of the Vediarpuram Seminary (S.P.G.) 1873.]
[KYNOCH Agnes Mary - child of unknown and Mah Kho Mai, born 1872.]
KYNOCH Mrs - Aylesbury, recipient of letter from Jimmy Kearns, 1896.
LAMB William witness at m. of P.J. Rose and Florence Williams, 1900.
LANGDON H.G. - chaplain at the Chaplains Stations, Madras, who married
William P.F. Shaw and Charlotte McLeod Carstairs, 1848.
LAW JOHN - architect of the new mission church at Vepery. [mentioned in
letters from Thomas Robinson, archdeacon of Madras, 1829. C/IND/MADRAS/12,
LAWRENCE A.M. - married Edwin Carstairs Kearns.
LAWRENCE L.M. - witness at the m. of Alice Mary Lawrence and E.C. Kearns, 1898.
LEE James Johnston - son of John and Elizabeth Lee, buried in St Mary's
cemetery, Madras. Died 1833, aged 12.
[LEE John - chemist, married to Elizabeth, had a son called James Johnston Lee.]
LEE Nebuchadnezzar - father of Mary Lee; belonged to the army, but
afterwards kept a day/boarding school in Semboodoss Street; schoolmaster of
George Emanuel Johnston. died 4.8.1810 [N2/4/85]
LEE Mary - a.k.a. Mary Bruce Gardiner; de-facto wife of Nebuchadnezzar Lee,
and later of Peter Bruce.
LEEPER Rev. Alexander - Clerical Training secretary, Church Education
Society, Dublin, 1849
LEEPER Frederick James - married Mary Catherine Roberts. Executor of Joseph
Roberts' will; Witness at the wedding of Fanny Amelia Kearns and A.W. Smart,
LEWIS Rev. Thomas - buried Sarah Lee at St Mary's, Madras, 1827. [N2/4/85]
LINDSAY Hugh - signatory on Peter Carstairs' will.
MARGOSCHIS Mr - in charge of the Nazareth boarding school.
McLEOD - a Conductor. (military person concerned with the movement of
ordnance and munitions); father of Charlotte McLeod.
McLEOD Charlotte - m. Peter Carstairs, 1825, [N2/9/373].
McLEOD E.C. - missionary; educated Bishops college, Howrah. Chief station
Pulicat, 1842-3, Cochin 1844-5; Disqualified by inability to acquire native
language. [200 years of the S.P.G. p.918]
MIRYLEES James M. - m. Dorothy Alice Kearns, 1901.
MORPETH Miss - 1878. Had the coveted job in Madras, which Hannah had wanted.
MORRISON W. - executor of Peter Carstairs' will, 1821.
NAILER Rev A.R.C. - missionary, ordained Madras; Chief Station Vediarpuram,
1851-3; chitloor and Vellore, 1853-5; Erungalore 1856-7; [V, 1858-73 ?]
Principal of the Vediarpuram Seminary (S.P.G.) 1858-73.
NICKELS Anna Maria - m. William Irving Kearns, 1887.
NICKELS (S)J. - witness at the m. of Anna Maria Nickels and W.I. Kearns, 1887.
OAKSHOTT Eugene - witness at the m. of Annie Rose and Berthold Engeroff, 1886
PHAROAH - signatory on Peter Carstairs' will; librarian, Mount Road.
PLAYFAIR A. - witness to Edwin Carstairs Kearns' will, 1921.
PORTER W. - missionary with the London Missionary Society; baptised George
Roberts Johnston, 1852.
[PRAZER] A.J. - witness at the m. of James Rose and Elizabeth Symmonds,
[PRAZER] B.D. - witness at the m. of James Rose and Elizabeth Symmonds,
ROBERTS Charles - brother of Joseph Roberts.
ROBERTS Paul - brother of Joseph Roberts.
ROSE Annie Seymour - wife of William Rose
ROSE C. - witness at the m. of J.C. Roberts and E.G. Rose, Calcutta 1851.
ROSE ELLEN S. - witness at the m. of William J. Rose and E.M. Roberts, 1858.
ROSE (H) - witness at the m. of William J. Rose and Esther M. Roberts, 1858.
[ROSE James - private pensioner m. Elizabeth Symmonds, 1840, Masulipatam.]
ROSE Percy Joseph - 1867-1945; son of William Joseph Rose and Esther Matilda
Roberts; married Florence Mabel Williams, 1900; Manager of the Imperial Bank
of India and Cocanada.
[ROSE S.J. - driver with S.M.R., married Mable Carvalho, 1897.]
ROSE William Clarence - b. 1866, son of William Joseph Rose; banker Mysore Bank.
ROSE William Joseph - Inspecting Postmaster, Calicut. m. Esther M. Roberts;
ROWLINGS - maiden name of Ethel Maud Taylor, (divorcee who married Edward
ROY Rev. Dr - married Charlotte McLeod and Peter Carstairs at the Fort
Church Madras, 1825.
SAALFELT [J.H.] - witness at the m. of Frances Saalfelt and Joseph Roberts,
SALINGER G. - witness at the m. of Annie Rose and Berthold Engeroff, 1886.
[SHAW Ann Jane - 1828-1862; wife of James Shaw, inspector-general of Hospitals.]
SHAW Adeliza - 1834-1860; m. Peter Carstairs Junior; daughter of Edward
Fawcett Shaw; died 1860 aged 26 [monumental inscriptions]
SHAW Adeliza Baron - daughter of Charlotte McLeod Carstairs and William
Patrick Fawcett Shaw.
SHAW Edward F. - Harness maker residence Egmore; Committee of the Indian
Missionary Society, 1839-40; witness at m. of William P.F. Shaw and
Charlotte McLeod Carstairs, 1848.
SHAW and Co. - firm in which Peter Carstairs Junior was a partner, [Madras
Almanac 1858, p.628]
SHAW George - father of William Patrick Fawcett Shaw and witness at his
SHAW George Marchant - Cotton merchant, Gunther District, Madras; son of
Char-lotte McLeod Carstairs; m. Emily Kathleen Rose; witness to Arthur
Symonds Kearns' will 1921.
[SHAW Julia Gertrude Rose - buried Ootacumund Taluk no.1 cemetery; died
25.4.1878 aged 25.]
SHAW William Baron - 1906-1986; son of George Marchant Shaw and Emily
Kathleen Rose; bank official.
SHAW William Patrick Fawcett - cabinet maker, m. Charlotte McLeod Carstairs
SHORT J. - witness at the m. of Esther Matilda Roberts and William J. Rose,
SMART Alexander William - Lieut/Colonel Royal Engineers, m. Fanny Amelia
Kearns, Tanjore 1876.
SMART Colonel George - father of Alexander William Smart.
SMART F.[C]. - witness at m. of Arthur Symonds Kearns and Adela Maud Rose, 1889.
SMART George Edward - son of Alexander William and Fanny Amelia; staying
with Hannah Elizabeth Kearns in 1891 at the time of the census, then aged 10.
SMART Hugh - son of Alexander William and Fanny Amelia; staying with
Ha-n-nah El-iz-abeth Kearns in 1891 at the time of the census, then aged 6.
SMART Walter Alexander - son of Alexander William and Fanny Amelia; staying
with Ha-n-nah El-iz-abeth Kearns in 1891 at the time of the census, then aged 7.
SIMPSON G.R. - witness at the m. of Olive Winifred Jones Kearns. 1914, Ethel
Lavinia Kearns 1920, and Violet Gladys Kearns, 1923.
STARKEY H.A. - married Edith Violet Kearns.
STEPHEN R.M. - clerk of Peter Carstairs, signatory of 1st codicil of his will.
SYMMONDS Alfred Radford - m.a. Wadham, Oxford; ordained Deacon 1838,
practicing 1839 London; S.Madras 1846-72 (as diocese sec. 1846-72 "Our
esteemed diocesan Secretary April 1861." - The Mission Field vol 6. p.9.
Don't have a photocopy.) and principal S.P.G. college 1848-74); furlough
1872; pensioned 1874, died Jan 10 1883. ["The Missionary Roll"]
[SYMMONDS Elizabeth - m. James Rose 1840, Masulipatam.]
TAYLOR Ethel Maud - (nee? Rowlings), m. Edward Roland Kearns, 1931.
TAYLOR Rev. W. - missionary, Vepery, Madras, 19.1.1841 [C/IND/MADRAS 10]
THOMPSON A. - witness at the m. of Ethel Lavinia Kearns, 1920.
THOMPSON Mr - worker at the Nagercoil mission c.1840 ["A Hundred Years in
TURNER Anne - witness at the m. of James Rose and Elizabeth Symmonds,
TURNER Thomas - witness at the m. of James Rose and Elizabeth Symmonds,
UNDERWOOD - husband of Helen Carstairs, daughter of Peter Carstairs Jnr.
VAN SOMOREN Godlieb - friend of Peter Carstairs original named executor of
his will; bookeeper in the firm of Arbuthnot; died 24.10.1853. [Monumental
VICKERS Rosa Married Arthur Clarkson Rose Kearns. 1915
MRS VICKERS - Was being considered for zenana work by the U.S.P.G. in 1869.
[see Rhodes House notes]
VICKERS Arthur Brotherton - b. May 26 1858, S. India..... missionary,
Tuticorin 1883; Ramnad 1884-7, sick leave 1887-8, Nazareth 1889-92.
Mutalapad 1892. [200 years of S.P.G. p.920]
[VLYD] J. - witness at m. of Arthur Symonds Kearns and Adela Maud Rose, 1889.
WEBSTER Rev. Mr - married Joseph Roberts and Mary Lee, 1824.
WEST H.R. - witness at the wedding of Edward Roland Kearns, 1931.
[WESTCOTT Rev.A. - principal S.P.G. college 1887-1901.] and author of "Our
Oldest Indian Mission." pub. 1897, a history of the Vepery Mission 1716-1896.
WILLIAMS Florence Mabel - married Percy Joseph Rose, 20.10.1900, Madras.
WILLIAMS Humphrey Trembath - father of Florence Mabel Williams.
WILLIAMS A.A. - Archdeacon, St Georges Cathedral, Madras, 1900, officiated
at m. of Florence Williams and P.J. Rose.
WINSCOM H.(V) - witness at the wedding of Fanny Amelia Kearns and A.W. Smart.
WINSER Caroline - witness at the m. of J.C. Roberts and E.G. Rose, Calcutta
WINSER James - witness at the m. of J.C. Roberts and E.G. Rose, Calcutta 1851.
2a Janet Street
Rossmoyne. W.A. 6148
Possible casualties of the 'Mutiny'.
BEATSON, Abraham b.09 Jan 1807 in Calcutta; married to lAWRENCE, Sarah
b.6 May 1815 Dinapore m. 20 April 1852 Umbaalla.
LAWRENCE, William b. c1791 Chunar married to WHEATLEY, Sophia.
LEMMON, John b. c.1801 Kent, England d. 29 June 1853 married to
HIGHBERT, Caroline m. 11 September 1825 Lucknow.
This was meant for the mailing list :
Nancy <arnoldan(a)arach.net.au> wrote :
I am looking for an Alexander Currie (Canadian)in the 91st Regiment
(British) stationed in India approximately 1857.
This is all the info I have sorry can't be of more help.
I am currenting searching for an Alexander Currie(Canadian) served with the
(British) 91st Regiment in India.
His first child was born 1857, while he was in India and his wife Anne was
born in Greece.
Unfortunately this is all the information I have. If anyone can help me I
would be most appreciative.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
I am also researching Curry/Currie links in India. I have been going through
the Bengal indexes and I have the following which may be a connection for you :
Index to Baptisms - Bengal - Volume 59 - Year 1816 - Page 10 - Alexander Currie
Index to Marriages - Bengal - Volume 51 - Year 1840 - Page 90 - A K Currie
to M A Shannon
These may or may not be the Currie you are looking for. Your local LDS
Centre could provide you with the films which would give you the details
from these index references. Alternatively you could get the information
from the India Office Library and Records in London.
Hope this is of some help!
Researching - Upshon- Zscherpal- Curry- Marchant -Huffton -Ross -Connel
-Mills -Monagham -Brown -Pettelo -Price -Waters -Marshal.l
Re the 58th Regiment of Foot in India. I have the books "In Search of
the Forlorn Hope" which sets out where British Regiments in the world
from 1640-WW1. Perhaps the following maybe of help to you:
58th Reg.Foot, The Rutlandshire Regiment, Nickname "The Steelbacks"
1824 Ireland 1825 Dublin, Waterford 1826 Dublin
1826-1827 Ceylon, 1828-38 Ceylon 1835 Madras 1840 Portsmouth 1841
Glasgow 1842 Dublin 1843-45 NSW Australia 1844-46 Port Arthur, Tasmania
They were in NZ 1854-56
Re your grandfather Robert Arkley Cooke if you have dates for the towns
you mentioned in India I could look at those dates and see what
Regiments were stationed in those towns and this might narrow the search
down a little.
June Castle, Auckland, NZ