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Hi Shirley and all
I have a Mariah /Maria PUCKETT born 04 Nov 1844 in Greensboro, IN
her parents were Henry and Elizabet COMER PUCKETT
She married James HUTSON son of John HUTSON and Mary CRUSORE?
28 Feb 1860 in Howard CO,IN
James died 31 March 1879 in Richland CO,WI
Maria /Maria applied for pension of James and I have copy of it
She then married John R.SMITH 02 April 1880 in Muncie IN
they moved to WI where they lived and died
Mariahs brother married them
wondering if any relation to your Pucketts
thanks
pat
memphis, tn
Hi Listers....Could someone verify that this CHARLES E. BANTZ is the son of
NOAH and SARAH(BALES) BANTZ???? Thank you very much!!! Jim in Darke co.
OH
Name: Ida B Ford
Spouse Name: Charles E Bantz
Marriage Date: 1 Nov 1899
Marriage County: Delaware
Source Title 1: Delaware County, Indiana
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1827-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O
Book: C13
OS Page: 82
From 1880 IN census
Census Place: Niles, Delaware, Indiana
Source: FHL Film 1254274 National Archives Film T9-0274 Page 230B
Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Gilman FORD Self M M W 34 OH
Occ: Farmer Fa: WV Mo: OH
F. Sarah FORD Wife F M W 28 IN
Occ: Keeping House Fa: UNKNOWN Mo: OH
Orval FORD Son M S W 7 IN
Fa: OH Mo: IN
E. Flora FORD Dau F S W 4 IN
Fa: OH Mo: IN
B. Ida FORD Dau F S W 2 IN
Fa: OH Mo: IN
Bessa FORD Dau F S W 5M IN
Fa: OH Mo: IN
JIM DEETER wrote:
Hi Listers....Could someone verify that this CHARLES E. BANTZ is the son of
NOAH and SARAH(BALES) BANTZ???? Thank you very much!!! Jim in Darke co. OH
Name: Ida B Ford
Spouse Name: Charles E Bantz
Marriage Date: 1 Nov 1899
Marriage County: Delaware
Source Title 1: Delaware County, Indiana
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1827-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O
Book: C13
OS Page: 82
I'll start with the little bit I can provide although I'm not sure it will actually do your search any good.
The 1891-92 Muncie City directory shows:
Hartge, Deidrich, merchant tailor, 304 e. Main, h 330 e Wysor
Addington, Wm, works Muncie Nail Co., h e end Adams
Addington, Wm. H., lab, h e s Brady, 3 s Jackson (My note: Jackson is actually an e/w street)
No Eddington
No Prickett
No Pickett
Puckett, Caleb
Puckett, Elisha J. (physician)
Puckett, Fremont L.
Puckett, Gibson
There was a Malinda Puckett that owned 4 acres of land in Muncie.
1903-04 Muncie City Directory
I find not Hartge or variation of the spelling (also checked Hart, etc.)
I find no tailor by any variation of the spelling of same.
I find Puckett:
Elisha J.
Fred W. (private detective who later became sherrif)
James H. & Malinda
William and Bertha
1909-10 Muncie City Directory
Hartge, Detrich, merchant tailor, basement Vatet Bldg., h same
Addington, Frank A. (Claudia), h 257 Kilgore ave.
Addington, Jennie S., wid of Dr. Isaac H, h 211 n Liberty
Addington, Wm (Savannah), wks Warner Gear Co., h 222 s Lincoln
Pucket, Bertha, widof Robert, h 808 e Willard (my note - one t)
Puckett, Carl A., student, h 214 s Council
Puckett, Frederick W. (Hazel D.), prop. The Muncie Saloon and Billiards, 103 n High, h 214 s Council
Puckett, J. Harve (Malinda E.), driver Armour & Co., h 922 s Jefferson
Puckett, Mrs. Josephine E, h 1614 e 2nd
Puckett, Marie M. student, h 214 s Council
Puckett, Mrs. May, housekeeper, 906 e Adams
Puckett, Nelson F (Martha E), wks C C & L Ry Co, h 115 w 6th
Puckett, Ruby G, bkpr and stenographer Leslie Brand, h 115 w 6th
Hartge, D. is also shown in the business section as a Tailor Merchant, basement of Vatet Bldg.
1919-20 Muncie City Directory
Hartge, Dietrich A (Lucy M), tailor, 202-1/2 e Main, h 703 Beechwood ave, Riverside
This is the latest book I have. To find information in later books, you might want to check with the Muncie Public Library, Local History and Genealogy Center, Claire Morgan ( cmorgan(a)munpl.org ). Someone might also be able to check for obits for you. Might be a small fee - not sure.
Hope some of this helps in some way.
Shirley
PS I graduated from Oak Park River Forest High School waaaaaaaay back when. LOL
Shirley,
With regards to Dietrich Hartge, tailor in Muncie, he is born sometime
around 1858 and appears in Muncie in the 1900 census. I possess a news
clipping that gives the name of who I believe may be his second wife, but
I am away from home right now and don't have that info on me. I don't
have access to Ancestry at the moment...I think the 1900 listing might be
on Ancestry as "Detrick Hartge." He is listed with next wife Anna.
Also listed is his daughter, Ruth -- who, interestingly, is also listed in
the 1900 census in Chicago as Ruth Addington, with her mother Bertha,
stepfather Elmer and sister Mabel. So Ruth is counted twice in the 1900
census -- once as a "Hartge," and once as an "Addington." Bertha appears
to have remarried a man named Elmer Addington, who happens to have
Bertha's maiden name. So, Bertha and Dietrich appeared to have split up
(there should be a divorce on record, I would presume); then, Bertha
appears to marry an Addington relative named Elmer, and moved with her
daughters Ruth and Mabel off to Chicago.
Dietrich appears in the 1910 census on Ancestry as "Deatrich A Hartge." I
lose track of him after that.
Dietrich Hartge and Bertha C. Addington show up in the online Indiana
marriage & birth records on the Indiana RootsWeb. The spelling of
Dietrich's given and surnames are often quite butchered. The 1827-1920
online marriage database lists the following:
Hartge Diedrich Bertha C Addington Feb 16 1882 C7 552
Hartgr Detrick Anna E Coghlar Apr 19 1900 C13 231
I presume Anna E Coghlar is his wife after Bertha Addington.
The 1882-1920 online birth database has the following entries:
Hartch Detrich Bertha Eddington F W Aug 24 1888 H- 3 18
Hartge Ruth Richard Bertha Addington F W Jan 9 1886 H- 2 49
Hartge Dick Bertha Addington F W June 9 1886 CH- 3 35
Hartge Lee Hrech Bertha Addington F - Aug 24 1888 CH- 3 62
Hartge D. (???) Prickett F W Sept 15 1890 CH- 3 94
Hartge D. (???) Puckett F W Sept 15 1890 H- 4 22
Harty Detrich Bertha Eddington F W Aug 24 1888 H- 3 18
The records must be difficult to read, because Dietrich's & Bertha's names
are messed up. One also sees the name "Puckett", which is the surname of
Bertha's stepfather -- not her true maiden name of Addington.
I can shed some light on these entries. Bertha Hartge geb. Addington had
two daughters: Ruth Hartge and Mabel Maul Hartge. Of this I have
personal knowledge.
I am in possession of photographs of Bertha and her daughters, Ruth and
Mabel Maul. I also possess an invitation to Mabel's childhood birthday
party, which reveals her birth date. I don't have it with me so can't
double check the date as given in the online database.
According to clues in the above entries, Ruth would have been born on
January 9, 1886. Mabel Maul would have been born August 24, 1888.
From the online data, there appears to have possibly been a third
daughter, born September 15, 1890. I do not have personal knowledge of
this child, nor am I aware if the child survived. Further information
would be welcomed!
Ruth and Mabel Maul went on to become public performers. They were known
as the "Addington Sisters." Ruth was a comedienne on the Vaudeville
circuit; I am in possession of her travel journal. She appeared in New
York City on Broadway in a performance of "The Flower of the Ranch," which
opened on April 20, 1908; she married fellow performer Mart Lorenz, who
was known in Chicago theatre circles during that decade. Her journal
indicates she toured all over the U.S. Ruth was a fine singer; she and a
female friend of hers toured as a Vaudeville duo known as "Franks and
Addington."
Ruth appears in the 1930 census in Chicago as a widow, operating a beauty
salon. I lose track of her after that. I am not personally aware that
she and Mart Lorenz had any children; I seek information on this.
Mabel Maud was an opera singer. She, too, traveled, and performed at
least one season in Paris. She married my great-grandfather, Arthur J.
Sommers, a pharmacist, in Chicago. He played the violin. They appear to
have had mutual musical talents. Arthur James Sommers dies 1929-06-21 in
Chicago, Cook County, IL. Mabel Maul Sommers geb. Hartge dies 1933-06-19
in Elgin, Kane County, Illinois after having been struck by a truck while
walking along a highway with my grandmother Ruth-Helen in Bartlett,
Illinois.
So, somewhere in Muncie, the girls picked up a fine music education. I am
in possession of two unidentified photos, likely taken in Muncie, of what
appears to be a fine Victorian-style parlor with a lovely piano. In both
photos stand an elderly woman whom I would dearly love to identify; in the
background of both photos are several photographs of family photos hanging
on the wall and on top of a table. The woman is well-dressed, and the
home is very nicely furnished. The back of one photo indicates the year
the woman died. I don't have it with me right now, but I am thinking it
was 1900. I suspect she is someone important to Delaware County and
Muncie history.
With regard to your other questions, Shirley, I will have to defer a
response until I am back home with my records. I am out of town at the
moment.
Kind regards,
Dawn
Ms. Dawn Marie Mueller
7708 Adams St.
Forest Park, IL 60130
708.488.0206
dmueller AT physics.niu.edu
Shirley,
With regards to Dietrich Hartge, tailor in Muncie, he is born sometime
around 1858 and appears in Muncie in the 1900 census. I possess a news
clipping that gives the name of who I believe may be his second wife, but
I am away from home right now and don't have that info on me. I don't
have access to Ancestry at the moment...I think the 1900 listing might be
on Ancestry as "Detrick Hartge." He is listed with next wife Anna.
Also listed is his daughter, Ruth -- who, interestingly, is also listed in
the 1900 census in Chicago as Ruth Addington, with her mother Bertha,
stepfather Elmer and sister Mabel. So Ruth is counted twice in the 1900
census -- once as a "Hartge," and once as an "Addington." Bertha appears
to have remarried a man named Elmer Addington, who happens to have
Bertha's maiden name. So, Bertha and Dietrich appeared to have split up
(there should be a divorce on record, I would presume); then, Bertha
appears to marry an Addington relative named Elmer, and moved with her
daughters Ruth and Mabel off to Chicago.
Dietrich appears in the 1910 census on Ancestry as "Deatrich A Hartge." I
lose track of him after that.
Dietrich Hartge and Bertha C. Addington show up in the online Indiana
marriage & birth records on the Indiana RootsWeb. The spelling of
Dietrich's given and surnames are often quite butchered. The 1827-1920
online marriage database lists the following:
Hartge Diedrich Bertha C Addington Feb 16 1882 C7 552
Hartgr Detrick Anna E Coghlar Apr 19 1900 C13 231
I presume Anna E Coghlar is his wife after Bertha Addington.
The 1882-1920 online birth database has the following entries:
Hartch Detrich Bertha Eddington F W Aug 24 1888 H- 3 18
Hartge Ruth Richard Bertha Addington F W Jan 9 1886 H- 2 49
Hartge Dick Bertha Addington F W June 9 1886 CH- 3 35
Hartge Lee Hrech Bertha Addington F - Aug 24 1888 CH- 3 62
Hartge D. (???) Prickett F W Sept 15 1890 CH- 3 94
Hartge D. (???) Puckett F W Sept 15 1890 H- 4 22
Harty Detrich Bertha Eddington F W Aug 24 1888 H- 3 18
The records must be difficult to read, because Dietrich's & Bertha's names
are messed up. One also sees the name "Puckett", which is the surname of
Bertha's stepfather -- not her true maiden name of Addington.
I can shed some light on these entries. Bertha Hartge geb. Addington had
two daughters: Ruth Hartge and Mabel Maul Hartge. Of this I have
personal knowledge.
I am in possession of photographs of Bertha and her daughters, Ruth and
Mabel Maul. I also possess an invitation to Mabel's childhood birthday
party, which reveals her birth date. I don't have it with me so can't
double check the date as given in the online database.
According to clues in the above entries, Ruth would have been born on
January 9, 1886. Mabel Maul would have been born August 24, 1888.
From the online data, there appears to have possibly been a third
daughter, born September 15, 1890. I do not have personal knowledge of
this child, nor am I aware if the child survived. Further information
would be welcomed!
Ruth and Mabel Maul went on to become public performers. They were known
as the "Addington Sisters." Ruth was a comedienne on the Vaudeville
circuit; I am in possession of her travel journal. She appeared in New
York City on Broadway in a performance of "The Flower of the Ranch," which
opened on April 20, 1908; she married fellow performer Mart Lorenz, who
was known in Chicago theatre circles during that decade. Her journal
indicates she toured all over the U.S. Ruth was a fine singer; she and a
female friend of hers toured as a Vaudeville duo known as "Franks and
Addington."
Ruth appears in the 1930 census in Chicago as a widow, operating a beauty
salon. I lose track of her after that. I am not personally aware that
she and Mart Lorenz had any children; I seek information on this.
Mabel Maud was an opera singer. She, too, traveled, and performed at
least one season in Paris. She married my great-grandfather, Arthur J.
Sommers, a pharmacist, in Chicago. He played the violin. They appear to
have had mutual musical talents. Arthur James Sommers dies 1929-06-21 in
Chicago, Cook County, IL. Mabel Maul Sommers geb. Hartge dies 1933-06-19
in Elgin, Kane County, Illinois after having been struck by a truck while
walking along a highway with my grandmother Ruth-Helen in Bartlett,
Illinois.
So, somewhere in Muncie, the girls picked up a fine music education. I am
in possession of two unidentified photos, likely taken in Muncie, of what
appears to be a fine Victorian-style parlor with a lovely piano. In both
photos stand an elderly woman whom I would dearly love to identify; in the
background of both photos are several photographs of family photos hanging
on the wall and on top of a table. The woman is well-dressed, and the
home is very nicely furnished. The back of one photo indicates the year
the woman died. I don't have it with me right now, but I am thinking it
was 1900. I suspect she is someone important to Delaware County and
Muncie history.
With regard to your other questions, Shirley, I will have to defer a
response until I am back home with my records. I am out of town at the
moment.
Kind regards,
Dawn
Ms. Dawn Marie Mueller
7708 Adams St.
Forest Park, IL 60130
708.488.0206
dmueller AT physics.niu.edu
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, unicorn1945 wrote:
> Dawn,
>
> I have a couple of questions for you:
> 1) Dietrich Hartge, tailor in Muncie - do you have a time frame in mind for his time in Muncie so I can do a little checking?
> 2) In regards to the Mansfields and the settlement of Indiana - is that the same family that settled in the Yorktown/Mt.Pleasant Twp area of Delaware County?
> 3) Are you aware of a doctor in the Mansfield line here in Indiana?
>
> Shirley Pearson
> Muncie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dmueller(a)niuhep.physics.niu.edu
> To: INDELAWA-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [INDELAWA-L] Mansfield, Addington, Shafer/Shaffer, Hartge
>
>
> Hello, Mansfield Descendants, and Good Others --
>
> I am a descendant of the Mansfields.
>
> My mother is Beth Helen Mueller, geb. Weiher.
>
> Her mother was Ruth-Helen Weiher, geb. Sommers.
>
> Ruth-Helen Sommers' mother was Mabel Maul Hartge, daughter of Dietrich
> Hartge and Bertha Addington. Mabel married Arthur J. Sommers in Chicago,
> the son of Henry G. Sommers.
>
> Bertha Addington was the daughter of Francis Addington and Hannah J.
> Mansfield.
>
> It is possible that Bertha Addington and Dietrich Hartge divorced, for
> there is evidence of her residing with an Elmer Addington later in
> Chicago, and there is evidence of a later marriage of Dietrich Hartge. I
> understand Dietrich Hartge may have been a German-born tailor in Muncie.
>
> Hannah J. Mansfield was the daughter of Charles Mansfield and Hannah
> Shaffer. It is my understanding that this Charles Mansfield was born
> 24-MAR-1800 in Ohio and that Hannah Shaffer was born 03-JUN-1800 according
> to a GEDCOM listed on FamilySearch.org, which also gives their marriage
> date as 05-APR-1821 in Union County, Indiana.
>
> I believe that Hannah J. Mansfield may have remarried a Caleb Garrett
> Puckett.
>
> Hannah Shaffer was the daughter of Henry Shafer and a woman whose name may
> be something like "Abigail Bobbli" or "Abbey Bobbli". They were married
> in Ohio on 01-SEP-1793 by U.S. Army Chaplain David Jones. (See
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/hamiltonpioneermarr.htm) That
> information comes from a hand-copied record of Hamilton Co., Ohio,
> courthouse records that were lost in a fire. I'm stuck at this point with
> respect to my maternal line.
>
> Charles Mansfield, according to that same GEDCOM, died 28-JAN-1878 in
> Center TWP, Delaware, IN and was buried in Muncie, Delaware Co., IN; it
> lists his father as Charles Mansfield (b. abt 1765 in PA) and Rebecca
> Crumb (b. abt 1774, possibly in PA).
>
> The same GEDCOM lists that Charles Mansfield's father as having been John
> Mansfield, b. 15-SEP-1745 in Tyrone County, Ireland; Charles' mother is
> listed as a woman named Margaret, with John and Margaret having been
> married in 1773 in Tyrone County, Ireland.
>
> I possess old family photographs, etc., that provide evidence of my
> maternal lineage up to the Mansfields. For instance, I am in possession
> of an old newspaper clipping that talks about the pioneer settlement of
> Indiana by the Mansfields. So I at least know that I am on the right
> track when comparing it to my online genealogy research. However, I am
> relying on Internet resources to provide data earlier than the marriage of
> Bertha Addington and Dietrich Hartge, with respect to dates of births,
> marriages and deaths. I have not yet personally come to Muncie, or
> elsewhere in Indiana, to verify the trail.
>
> I would be pleased to learn more about the Mansfields. I am keenly
> interested in procuring information on Henry Shafer and Abigail/Abbey
> Bobbli (or whatever her maiden name was, for the name "Bobbli" may be a
> transcription error). I would appreciate learning the physical
> whereabouts of documentation or gravestones of any individuals connected
> to my pedigree, as I would like to verify the links and photograph any
> available evidence. Information on Francis S. Addington would be welcome.
> Also welcome would be assistance in identification of a goodly collection
> of photographs I have inherited, many labeled as having been taken by
> photographers in Muncie, plus some photographs on older media.
>
> Kind regards to all my Indiana and Ohio relatives and their descendants!
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Ms. Dawn Marie Mueller
> 7708 Adams St.
> Forest Park, IL 60130
> 708.488.0206
> dmueller AT physics.niu.edu
>
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Carleen Foster wrote:
>
> > Hi Shirley-Thanks for offering to send my email on to Kelly Runyon. She hasn't responded so I'll respond to your teaser about being interested in the Mansfields. My ancestor James Mansfield left Delaware County between 1850 and 1860 for Putnam County Missouri where he died. James parents were Charles Mansfield and Rebecca Crum Mansfield Goble. Charles died in Butler (formerly Hamilton) County Ohio and James, mother, brother and others left Ohio for Indiana (Wayne, Union, Delaware) in the late 1820ies and early 1830ies. All of this is pretty much documented and has been passed down to latter-day Mansfields. Also passed down is the date of 1786 as the year Rebecca Crum and Charles Mansfield were married. However per Rebecca's tombstone she died in 1833 age 59. This would make her birth year 1774 and she would have married at age 12. Kelly came up with another later date which makes more sense to me. First because she would be older than 12. Second in an a!
cc!
> ou!
> nt!
> > of the
> > kidnapping of her brother, John Crrum, by the Indians after 1786, she is referred to as Rebecca Crum, not Rebecca Mansfield. Third her first known child was born in 1794, 8 years after the accepted marriage date. Kelly indicated that she had sources to back her date but she didn't show them. Do you know anything about this or can you ask Kelly? Do you know if the web site where I found Kelly's information is still on line?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Carleen
> >
> > unicorn1945 <unicorn1945(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > I know where Kelly is and I am also interested in the Mansfields. I'll pass your email along to her.
> > Shirley
> >
> >
> >
>
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Hello, Mansfield Descendants, and Good Others --
I am a descendant of the Mansfields.
My mother is Beth Helen Mueller, geb. Weiher.
Her mother was Ruth-Helen Weiher, geb. Sommers.
Ruth-Helen Sommers' mother was Mabel Maul Hartge, daughter of Dietrich
Hartge and Bertha Addington. Mabel married Arthur J. Sommers in Chicago,
the son of Henry G. Sommers.
Bertha Addington was the daughter of Francis Addington and Hannah J.
Mansfield.
It is possible that Bertha Addington and Dietrich Hartge divorced, for
there is evidence of her residing with an Elmer Addington later in
Chicago, and there is evidence of a later marriage of Dietrich Hartge. I
understand Dietrich Hartge may have been a German-born tailor in Muncie.
Hannah J. Mansfield was the daughter of Charles Mansfield and Hannah
Shaffer. It is my understanding that this Charles Mansfield was born
24-MAR-1800 in Ohio and that Hannah Shaffer was born 03-JUN-1800 according
to a GEDCOM listed on FamilySearch.org, which also gives their marriage
date as 05-APR-1821 in Union County, Indiana.
I believe that Hannah J. Mansfield may have remarried a Caleb Garrett
Puckett.
Hannah Shaffer was the daughter of Henry Shafer and a woman whose name may
be something like "Abigail Bobbli" or "Abbey Bobbli". They were married
in Ohio on 01-SEP-1793 by U.S. Army Chaplain David Jones. (See
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/hamiltonpioneermarr.htm) That
information comes from a hand-copied record of Hamilton Co., Ohio,
courthouse records that were lost in a fire. I'm stuck at this point with
respect to my maternal line.
Charles Mansfield, according to that same GEDCOM, died 28-JAN-1878 in
Center TWP, Delaware, IN and was buried in Muncie, Delaware Co., IN; it
lists his father as Charles Mansfield (b. abt 1765 in PA) and Rebecca
Crumb (b. abt 1774, possibly in PA).
The same GEDCOM lists that Charles Mansfield's father as having been John
Mansfield, b. 15-SEP-1745 in Tyrone County, Ireland; Charles' mother is
listed as a woman named Margaret, with John and Margaret having been
married in 1773 in Tyrone County, Ireland.
I possess old family photographs, etc., that provide evidence of my
maternal lineage up to the Mansfields. For instance, I am in possession
of an old newspaper clipping that talks about the pioneer settlement of
Indiana by the Mansfields. So I at least know that I am on the right
track when comparing it to my online genealogy research. However, I am
relying on Internet resources to provide data earlier than the marriage of
Bertha Addington and Dietrich Hartge, with respect to dates of births,
marriages and deaths. I have not yet personally come to Muncie, or
elsewhere in Indiana, to verify the trail.
I would be pleased to learn more about the Mansfields. I am keenly
interested in procuring information on Henry Shafer and Abigail/Abbey
Bobbli (or whatever her maiden name was, for the name "Bobbli" may be a
transcription error). I would appreciate learning the physical
whereabouts of documentation or gravestones of any individuals connected
to my pedigree, as I would like to verify the links and photograph any
available evidence. Information on Francis S. Addington would be welcome.
Also welcome would be assistance in identification of a goodly collection
of photographs I have inherited, many labeled as having been taken by
photographers in Muncie, plus some photographs on older media.
Kind regards to all my Indiana and Ohio relatives and their descendants!
Sincerely yours,
Ms. Dawn Marie Mueller
7708 Adams St.
Forest Park, IL 60130
708.488.0206
dmueller AT physics.niu.edu
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Carleen Foster wrote:
> Hi Shirley-Thanks for offering to send my email on to Kelly Runyon. She hasn't responded so I'll respond to your teaser about being interested in the Mansfields. My ancestor James Mansfield left Delaware County between 1850 and 1860 for Putnam County Missouri where he died. James parents were Charles Mansfield and Rebecca Crum Mansfield Goble. Charles died in Butler (formerly Hamilton) County Ohio and James, mother, brother and others left Ohio for Indiana (Wayne, Union, Delaware) in the late 1820ies and early 1830ies. All of this is pretty much documented and has been passed down to latter-day Mansfields. Also passed down is the date of 1786 as the year Rebecca Crum and Charles Mansfield were married. However per Rebecca's tombstone she died in 1833 age 59. This would make her birth year 1774 and she would have married at age 12. Kelly came up with another later date which makes more sense to me. First because she would be older than 12. Second in an accou!
nt!
> of the
> kidnapping of her brother, John Crrum, by the Indians after 1786, she is referred to as Rebecca Crum, not Rebecca Mansfield. Third her first known child was born in 1794, 8 years after the accepted marriage date. Kelly indicated that she had sources to back her date but she didn't show them. Do you know anything about this or can you ask Kelly? Do you know if the web site where I found Kelly's information is still on line?
>
> Regards
>
> Carleen
>
> unicorn1945 <unicorn1945(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I know where Kelly is and I am also interested in the Mansfields. I'll pass your email along to her.
> Shirley
>
>
>
Where are the options on putting a family tree on the web where others can
utilize and provide feedback on errors and additions? Many of our family tree
members lived in Perry and Liberty townships in Delaware Co., and Stoney
Creek township in Randolph Co.
Thank you for any input that you might have.
George Cline
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No wonder he signed up as loyal to the Colonies and had at least one son who was a Captain and another who served in the militia during the Revolutionary War.
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No wonder he signed up as loyal to the Colonies and had at least one son who was a Captain and another who served in the militia during the Revolutionary War.
Does anyone have access to a October, 1991 obit for my aunt, Fern McKENZIE?
I think her last known residence was Muncie.
Fern was the wife of Fred McKENZIE and they had the following children.
Glen, Roberta, Bernard, Robert.
To the best of my knowledge, they lived in Muncie since the early 1900's.
I would greatly appreciate any help in locating a copy of her obituary.
Kind regards,
Sharon
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Hi, George!! Saw your post and thought I would send some info. your way. I am a collector of historical ephemera and have in my possession a document dated 1765 naming one "Andreas Hagenbuch" as eligible for collection of a "head tax" which the British imposed on PA settlors. He owed 5 LBS & I hope he never remitted payment!!!
Warmest regards,
Carter Birely (Beyerle/Sinsheim, Germany)
A fellow PA Dutch descendant
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Seek information on John H. Parker (birth?death?parents?) who lived in Delaware Co, IN from 1830-1850.
Married to Elvira Redpath who divorced him in 1850 in Delaware Co, IN.
They had at least 4 children: Mary Ann, Elvira, James and George.
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Seek death date and burial location for Elvira (Alvira) Redpath Parker Jenkins.
She was born 1806 NH, d. ? Delaware Co, IN
She was last married to John Jenkins.
She was living alone in Muncie on the 1870 census.
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HI-
Wonder if you have any idea how I can locate the first
name of a man who owned Denney Bus Company there in
Muncie back in...maybe the 1930s? I THINK that is the
name of the bus line.
Maybe the bus barn was located in Avondale, on Port
Avenue, or close to that area. The man's last name is,
of course, Denney/Denny. Any help will be appreciated.
Hi Shirley-Thanks for offering to send my email on to Kelly Runyon. She hasn't responded so I'll respond to your teaser about being interested in the Mansfields. My ancestor James Mansfield left Delaware County between 1850 and 1860 for Putnam County Missouri where he died. James parents were Charles Mansfield and Rebecca Crum Mansfield Goble. Charles died in Butler (formerly Hamilton) County Ohio and James, mother, brother and others left Ohio for Indiana (Wayne, Union, Delaware) in the late 1820ies and early 1830ies. All of this is pretty much documented and has been passed down to latter-day Mansfields. Also passed down is the date of 1786 as the year Rebecca Crum and Charles Mansfield were married. However per Rebecca's tombstone she died in 1833 age 59. This would make her birth year 1774 and she would have married at age 12. Kelly came up with another later date which makes more sense to me. First because she would be older than 12. Second in an account!
of the
kidnapping of her brother, John Crrum, by the Indians after 1786, she is referred to as Rebecca Crum, not Rebecca Mansfield. Third her first known child was born in 1794, 8 years after the accepted marriage date. Kelly indicated that she had sources to back her date but she didn't show them. Do you know anything about this or can you ask Kelly? Do you know if the web site where I found Kelly's information is still on line?
Regards
Carleen
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I know where Kelly is and I am also interested in the Mansfields. I'll pass your email along to her.
Shirley
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Hello List,
The following is a link to the Indiana Statistics site. It was sent through another Email List that I receive and I wanted to pass it on to you.
http://www.stats.indiana.edu/maptools/townships.htm
They have very nice township outline maps for the counties. The maps print out really good too!
Gina
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Mr. Sprowl,
Hello ! My name is Rosalie Adkins. I was in Muncie today
for research purposes.
I found the obit for your Robert A. Johnson. He is buried in
BeechGrove Cemetery,in Muncie,Indiana.
Didn't find his wife's obit though.
Please get back with me ! Feel free to e-mail me directly !
Rosie
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Lisa,
Hello ! My name is Rosalie Adkins. I was in Muncie today
for research purposes.
I checked for an obit for Susan Sharits,didn't have any luck.
I checked the micro-film up to August 26,1901.
Sorry I wasn't able to find an obit for her !
Rosie
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Shirley,
Here's what I found when I googled marriage bond. Hope it helps.
In earlier times, a marriage bond was given to the court by the intended
groom prior to his marriage. It affirmed that there was no moral or legal
reason why the couple could not be married and it also affirmed that the
groom would not change his mind. If he did, and did not marry the intended
bride, he would forfeit the bond. The bondsman, or surety, was often a
brother or uncle to the bride, not necessarily a parent. The bondsman could
also be related to the groom, or even be a neighbor or friend, but those
situations occurred less often.
Sandy Taylor