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Msjillec(a)aol.com wrote:
Shawn,
Is it ok to post this to the list? I recieved it from another list I am on?
Jill
Hello Everyone,
I received this message from another genealogy list. If any of you have
friends or relatives who cannot evacuate the hurricane area, you might
want to get in touch with them TODAY and set up a plan of communication
for after the storm.
<< A friend who is living in Spring, Texas who is having to stay there
through this storm just contacted me. We have made arrangements for her to
send
me via e-mail TODAY a list of her friends and relatives who will worry
about
she and her husband when they loose electricity and probably telephone
contact with the outside world. She will do everything in her power to
contact us
so that we can notify the people on her list. Please everyone who is in
that area please do the same so that there is as little confusion as
possible
when this storm is over. If you need someone to do this for you we would
be
willing to be your contact point. Please feel free to cross post this to
other
genealogy lists. Judie Dunkle >>
Have your friends or relatives send you a list TODAY of people to contact.
After the storm passes, your friends or relatives can contact you as soon
as possible (there will be internet service available at shelters) and you,
in turn, can let their list of people know that they are okay.
I'll also volunteer to be contact point for anyone that wants to do this.
If you want to email me a list, feel free - I'll also be glad to provide my
phone number and/or "snail mail" address (if the mail hasn't been stopped
already) if you contact me privately.
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God be with everyone and keep them safe.
Sherri - List Mom
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In a message dated 9/22/2005 1:50:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ginclaire(a)cox.net writes:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~indelawa/granville-cemetery-burial-records.html
Thank you Gina and Virgina!
I was able to find someone I was doing research on, and eliminate him as a
possible father of my Great Grandmother. This was so helpful, when all I have
is a lastname to work with, so I've been going all through the Thomas' that
died within a certain timeframe.
Kathleen in Kalifornia
This may be perhaps George's father..as names of sons usually are of the father and the wifes father if only one son. Yes, Will is short for William. Can you send me the family of Will Z Rains listed for that Directory?
thanks for the info. Geo is buried in ND. his parents by census born in N.C. and Fa S.C. Can find no trace of his siblings or parents in any records. He was in the Civil War from start to finish. Injuries later made him invalid.
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From: unicorn1945 <unicorn1945(a)sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sep 21, 2005 7:53 PM
To: INDELAWA-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INDELAWA-L] Rains/ Fisher ancestors
The 1891-92 Muncie City Directory shows a William Z Rains and a Scott Rains.
I show no other Rains in the county at that time. Is it possible Will is the William. Perhaps she and hubby lived in another area and she came back to live with son or daughter later, where she died.
Someone else could check death records and get more information. Do you have a burial location?
Shirley
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From: kstrine(a)peoplepc.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: [INDELAWA-L] Rains/ Fisher ancestors
I am looking for records of Mattie Fisher and George W. Rains who were in census of 1870. I have him born in 1844 in Darke co, OH and she born in 1851 in Delaware Co,IN She was born and raised there and died there..She married Geo in 1866 or abt that time. They had children Emma Jane, Mary Rose and Will Rains.
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I am looking for records of Mattie Fisher and George W. Rains who were in census of 1870. I have him born in 1844 in Darke co, OH and she born in 1851 in Delaware Co,IN She was born and raised there and died there..She married Geo in 1866 or abt that time. They had children Emma Jane, Mary Rose and Will Rains.
BlankI'm looking for descendants or anyone researching the Branson line, in particular Isaac Branson who fought in the Civil War in the Iron Brigade (19th Ind Vol. Inf.)
Shirley Pearson
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Surnames: Jolliffe, Thorpe, Bailey
Classification: Query
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Sorry I don't have any details on the family of Mary Elizabeth Bailey. Her line is not a part of the book I am preparing. Her husband, Frank Jolliffe, is the link in the book.
I talked to the Salem Township Trustee office (Trustee Tom Crawford was out
at the time) but got this info. The Trustee office does the mowing in that
area but does not do anything (as we know)with the stones or their repairs.
They do not have the funds also to do the restoration. They do know of a
company that does it he said and as he described what they do it sounds like
the ones we already have heard about which does a good job. So at this time
it looks as if it will stay the same unless a movement or money raised to
restore it can be had. I also talked to a past Trustee and was advised that
they only had money for the mowing also. Having lived in the area and grew
up there I do remember going out with my wrecker and pulling out a car from
there once Jim Rutledge
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John Wood married "Lodiss" Preston on Feb 24, 1850, in Delaware County, IN C2-404.
"Lodiga Wood", wife of John, died on February 2, 1853, at age 31 years, seven months, and two days, and was buried at the Mt. Tabor Cemetery.
I know that "John" was a common name used in the Wood family. So can anyone tell me if the above two references are for the same couple?
MaryLu in Minnesota
That's a joke. Too many people are "elected" because they have pull or money or are related to someone or have something on someone - especially in Delaware County.
Shirley
RE:
Thus in any area you live, the "practices" followed by county and township
government can change with the next election!
MM
Thus in any area you live, the "practices" followed by county and township
government can change with the next election!
MM
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From: "Brad Manzenberger" <bradmanz(a)insightbb.com>
To: <INDELAWA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [INDELAWA-L] Sharp Cemetery- Who's responsible?
> Who’s responsible for cemeteries in Indiana?
>
> Different cemeteries have different people, groups or agencies responsible
> for their care. However, township trustees are the only ones mandated by
> law to do anything. (This pertains to older, generally no longer used
> cemeteries, not the newer ones still burying people. Other laws apply
> there.)
>
> For a township trustee to have responsibility, a cemetery must 1) be
> without funds for maintenance, 2) must have been in existence on February
> 28, 1939 and 3) is operated by a nonprofit organization or is not managed
> by any viable organization. Any cemetery that someone is paying property
> taxes on is not the responsibility of the trustee even if the three above
> conditions are met. If a non-profit turns over responsibility to a
> township then they also must turn over all funds marked for cemetery care
> to the trustee as well.
>
> State law requires township trustees to locate and maintain all the
> cemeteries as described above that are within the township. By law,
> maintain means 1) Resetting and straightening all monuments. 2) leveling
> and seeding the ground, 3) constructing fences where there are none and
> repairing existing fences, 4) Destroying and cleaning up detrimental
> plants (as defined in IC 15-3-4-1), noxious weeds, and rank vegetation.
>
> State law also requires trustees to appropriate enough money to do these
> things. Failure to comply with this law is a Class C infraction, which is
> why it’s difficult to force a trustee to do something about run down
> cemeteries. It’s not worth prosecuting.
>
> I wouldn’t recommend going to a trustee demanding that they do their job.
> Yes, that is a right and responsibility in this country, but with no real
> threat of some sort of punishment these demands will fall on deaf ears and
> guarantee they won’t rush to do anything about the problem. Every trustee
> views cemeteries differently. Some couldn’t care less, some wish there was
> more they could do and everything in between.
>
> State law sets out specific guidelines for the care of cemeteries by a
> county. The big difference between the counties and the township's are the
> words ‘may’ and ‘shall’ in the law. The township law states the trustee
> shall do these things. The county law states the county may do these
> things if they want but are not required. Some counties have set up county
> cemetery commissions through the county commissioners, but not all are
> funded by the county government, and not all are active.
>
> If a cemetery is on private property and is being taxed then there are no
> requirements at all forcing private land owners to do anything with their
> cemetery. They don’t have to fence it, mow it or fix the broken stones.
> Until just a few years ago a landowner could remove all the headstones and
> use the land for farming. It’s been done hundreds of times in Indiana.
> About the only law concerning privately owned cemeteries is that if there
> is to be any ground disturbance within 100 feet of the cemetery a plan has
> to be approved by the Department of Natural Resources- Division of
> Historic Preservation and Archeology. This includes anything from adding
> on to your house to planting a flag pole. (Again, this does not include
> modern, active cemeteries.)
>
> Links to Indiana laws that pertain to older cemeteries and their care and
> upkeep are at http://www.bradmanz.com/ind_leg.html
>
> Brad Manzenberger
>
>
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Surnames: Bailey
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Do you have information on the Mary Elizabeth Bailey family? I'm looking for a connection to Matthew Malen b1874 or Eli Bailey b1857.
No the township trustee is.
unicorn1945 wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Politician? Are you saying the owner of that cemetery is a politician?
>
> Shirley
>
> RE
>
> By law, yes. Forced, well, I don't know many politicians that can be
> forced to do anything. Even though the law says they are supposed to do
> it, the usual response is that there is not enough money to do it.
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I was just wondering if you had any progress on This Bailey family. I noticed you posted this in 99. I'm looking into Matthew Malen Bailey's family and was wondering if you found any connection to them. I have not had any connection with a Mary yet but I have found a Matthem M living with a cousin named Eli in the 1880 census i found on familysearch.org. If these sound familiar and you have anything to add, please contact me.
Brad,
Politician? Are you saying the owner of that cemetery is a politician?
Shirley
RE
By law, yes. Forced, well, I don't know many politicians that can be
forced to do anything. Even though the law says they are supposed to do
it, the usual response is that there is not enough money to do it.
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Hello again Michelle,
When Charles died, he drove into a parked truck and was thrown from the truck and died 14 hours later from the injuries. He was married to Elaine then and had a daughter Lois Charlene. And of course, he had the 3 girls by Doris. There was 1 more daughter, ME, but Charles and my mother never married.
I would also like to see the old newspaper clipping you referred to. Would be at all possible?
Please contact me.
By law, yes. Forced, well, I don't know many politicians that can be
forced to do anything. Even though the law says they are supposed to do
it, the usual response is that there is not enough money to do it.
unicorn1945 wrote:
> By law? I mean can he be forced to pay for repairs?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brad Manzenberger
> To: INDELAWA-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [INDELAWA-L] Sharp Cemetery, Salem Twnshp.
>
>
> If the trustee is responsible for mowing the cemetery then he is
> responsible for repairs and upkeep of the stones as well.
>
> http://www.ai.org/legislative/ic/code/title23/ar14/ch68.html
>
> Brad
>
> jr lamb wrote:
>
>>Sad it is. This cemetery was damaged several years ago and I understand it is still used by kids to party. My family and I went back there one day since it had been a long time since I had seen it and were disgusted to see the mess that it is. As mentioned it is a pioneer cemetery as well as being the final resting place of several Civil War soldiers and, if I remember correctly, one Patriot from the American Revolution may be buried there. I went to speak with a neighbor that I sort of knew - he told us about it being used by kids to party. He said that he use to go back and run them out until they threatened him and then he would call the Sherrif's office when he saw them going back but they never did anything so he quit calling.
>>My son talked of working back there to fix it up for his Eagle Scout project, but decided against it with no reason to think that it would not just be torn up again right away. The Salem Township Trustee's office phone number is (765) 378-6777. They are in charge of at least keeping it mowed, I am not sure what else they are or are not responsible for out there.
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