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> > Fellow listers: Where are your Bios and Obituaries? Share
> > information. Take a look at what the Jackson County site has
done. We need
> > to make Perry County site into a place to get some real
> > attaching the Jackson Co. address, if you aren't already
familiar with it,
> > take a look at what can be done. Let's get our county up to
> > visited Greenbriar Cemetery today, if any of you have family
> > it is in need of some help to preserve it. Someone has been
> > they could use some help.
> > Peg
In a message dated 11/29/98 8:07:08 PM Central Standard Time,
<< I visited Greenbriar Cemetery today, if any of you have family
> > it is in need of some help to preserve it.
You are right that we need to make more things available. Also, regarding the
cemetery situation. I have become alarmed at how little attention is being
paid to our cemeteries. A relative went to Bardmass Cem. only to find that it
had been farmed over with soybeans. He spent time with others (Emling family,
I believe) resurrecting headstones and trying to restore gravesites... only to
return a week later to find the cemetery plowed under AGAIN!!! This is
AGAINST the law and I hope that someone nails the person responsible. I am
outraged that so little is thought of our ancestors. Personally I visit my
relatives graves EVERY time that I make the 16 hour trip down to Perry Co. I
can't believe that people could destroy those sites willingly.
Sorry for the sermon, but I am angry about this loss of our heritage.
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I ran across another article that says National Cemetery System, div. of VA
will provide free replacement headstones for any military veteran, even in a
private cemetery. The article was talking about a new headstone for a
Revolutionary War vet who died in Nashville and family requested the
headstone. Call 1-800-697-6947
Good way to get your relatives acknowledged.
Happy Thanksgiving to ALL !
For those that are interested, we have began to move
our cemetery information pages to :
The Washington County township maps are there.
This is being done with less graphics on the start page,
and supposedly no banners, ads, or pop-ups. We hope this
helps those who were discontented with the problems and
slowness created by those extraneous items.
Please e-mail all comments and suggestions, or ideas to
We will appreciate any and all input into this project.
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Can anyone tell me where I can get some history, facts on St. John's
Village? My g-g-grandfather John SEDDON lived there and raised a family
and I was wanting some info on the Village to get some idea as how they
might have lived.
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<Jim> West Virginia
Seeking information on any WATSONS who lived in Tamaroa Twp. area
My G-G-G-Grandfather was George Wylie WATSON, b. ca. 1823 in
Georgia. He married ????? ca. 1847 and had several children,
including John (my ancestor) and William and perhaps Lizzie and
Florence, all born between 1846-1854. George shows up in St.
Francois County, MO in 1860, but enlisted at Tamaroa in December
1863 in 13th Reg. Ill. Cavalry Volunteers. He married (2nd) Zelpha
Hackett of Jefferson County in 1865 and died in 1873 in St. Francois
County, MO. Children by second marriage lived in Washington Co.,
Family tradition is that George was part Cherokee and came with
family through IL and MO on Trail of Tears in late 1830's. Possible
family connections include MOORES and BUSHES.
Any help at all greatly appreciated.
Hello, everyone! Am grateful for the opportunity to renew my introduction
and plea for help on my BARBER family in Perry County. Am looking for info
on the parents of my ggrandfather, Isaac A. BARBER b. 1829 and his brother,
Robert J. BARBER, b 1833 (both from Westerlo, NY). They came to Perry County
around 1860 and married cousins, Margaret L. CRAIG and Mary Ann CRAIG, at
about that same time. Families were very active in old Hopewell Presbyterian
Church in Craig/Swanwick area. Does anyone have access to those records? I
am thinking a record of the marriages might reveal names of the BARBER
brothers' parents. There may be a connection to LAWSON family back in NY.
Robt. BARBER was in Union Army, but I've obtained military records and did not
find what I needed. Isaac BARBER was the father of Charles Dean BARBER who
lived in the Swanwick area all of his life (1878 - 1969).
Gail BARBER Whaley
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What I know:
1. I was born in Du Quoin on July 5, 1939 to Edward A. Finney and
Margaret Coffel Finney.
2. Edward A. Finney was born in Percy on April 4, 1902 to William Edward
Finney and Mary Elizabeth Quinn Finney. He Died on Sept. 15, 1962 in
3. William Edward Finney was born in Tamaroa on Jan. 24, 1879. I have
not been able to verify his death, but the family bible says it was Aug.
7, 1921 and he was buried at Little Vine Cemetery (also not verified).
That is where I am right now. I do not know his parent's names. I have
tried the state and Perry County records for a death certificate, but
they have nothing. His name does not show up on the index for Little
Vine put out by the PC Historical Society. I have been there with my
Dad and know there was no headstone. I have checked the Soundex for
1900 to find his parents to no avail. I do find William and Mary living
in Du Quoin.
William Edward died of tuberculosis and I am wondering if he may have
gone to one of the special hospitals created years ago for that disease.
Would anyone have an idea of where such hospitals may have been back in
1920? That might account for the lack of a death certificate in Perry
Becky Finney Smith
I have a very nice 8x10 professional photo that was in my Mother-in-Law,
Iva Eaton Smith's, picture collection. On the back she had put,
"Elizabeth Berry, girlhood friend." If there is a descendant of Miss
Berry out there, please contact me and make arrangements to claim the
Is Eden in Perry County? I am searching for a Joseph Rhuben Bigham that
died at zip code 62286 which Eden seems to have. The USPS lists Sparta
also, but I believe that he was born and lived his early life at Eden. Any
help I would appreciate. Thanks. Carol Shaw
I received this today and it was very disturbing news. The cemetery mentioned is in Indiana. Does anyone on this list know if the State of Illinois would allow this same thing to happen? Since I now live in Texas, I am not familiar with Illinois state law. I get so tired of the big money lobby "buying" the government at both the state and national level. Now it seems they not only have permission to maim and destroy land, but our heritage as well.
Cheryl F. Luginbill
Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 13:02:03
To: Taylor List
Subject: [TAYLOR-L] RE:Death of a Cemetery
This article was sent to me. I found it very sad. I wasn't aware that
cemeteries are not protected under all state laws.
The Death of a Cemetery
Wayne Township graveyard destroyed for warehouse shows final
resting places aren't so final under state law. News
By Bill Shaw
INDIANAPOLIS (Aug. 22, 1998) -- Sometime in 1844, James Rhoads, a
prominent Wayne Township farmer, died. He was 70. His family members and
friends buried him in a grove of walnut trees on a hill overlooking a little
It was the first burial in what would become Rhoads Cemetery.
During the next half-century, 43 members of the Rhoads, Foltz, Shute and Rude
families would be sent to eternity in the walnut grove.
The tiny cemetery was the scene of extraordinary grief over the
years as members of the four families repeatedly journeyed in horse-drawn
wagons across the sweeping fields and up the lonesome hill to bury their
Staff photo / Kelly Wilkinson
DISTURBED GROUND: Danny J. White found this grave
marker while looking at the site of the old Rhoads Cemetery. The grave stone
says "Wife of James Rhoads ...," being the grave stone for Hannah Rhoads. Duke
Investments owns this property now, and White is upset at how the company has
excavated this site.
Thomas B. Rhoads was 7 months old in August 1849 when he died of
an inflamed brain. Elmer Shute was 2 when he died of a bowel infection in
August 1859. Hiram Foltz was an infant. George Foltz was 1. Lillian Rhoads was
2 and died of whooping cough on Aug. 13, 1878. Casey Rhoads died of an
inflamed brain when he was 2. Emma Rude died at 18 months.
On and on they died until there were 35 children buried in the
peaceful cemetery on the hill.
By the dawn of the 20th century, the burying ceased as the four
families either died out or drifted away from southern Wayne Township. Nobody
paid much attention to the old cemetery anymore.
The cemetery and surrounding farmland changed owners several
times. Each new owner farmed the fields and tended the old cemetery out of
respect for earlier generations of Hoosier families. The farmers could have
knocked down the trees, plowed under the tombstones, planted corn on the
graves and made a few more dollars at harvest.
But they didn't.
The pace of change in Wayne Township picked up dramatically in
1931 when the Indianapolis airport opened on 900 acres, gobbling up farmland
and triggering a development explosion in western Marion County.
Still, the land around the old cemetery remained untouched, save
for the annual spring plowing. The burying ground remained unmolested, decade
after decade, hidden on the hill in a 60-foot-wide opening in the walnut grove
Danny J. White grew up in the Lafayette Heights neighborhood, just
south of the cemetery. In the 1970s, the field around the cemetery served as a
dirt bike track for White and his teen-age buddies. He crossed it many times
walking to Ben Davis High School. The old dead-end dirt road served as a teen-
age lovers' lane. Neighborhood families held picnics beneath a massive,
gnarled oak tree just east of the cemetery.
White, 41, is a tool and die maker and an Indy Racing League
mechanic. He helped fabricate the car Eddie Cheever drove to victory in the
1998 Indianapolis 500.
Every day driving to work along I-465 near the airport, he'd
glance to the east through the sprawl of hotels, office buildings, warehouses,
parking lots, gas stations and fast food joints, and take comfort that the
solitary hill and the dark grove of trees remained in this mass of concrete
"Even when I was a kid the cemetery and the area surrounding it
was breathtaking," he recalled.
In the name of development
By 1995, the fields that stretched to the horizon when James
Rhoads was buried so long ago had shrunk to 21.2 acres.
Now jet planes scream overhead, and the rumble of nearby I-70 and
I-465 is constant. Cement trucks and construction equipment line the old
lovers' lane, and new buildings seem to appear daily, landscaped with skinny
stick trees, surrounded by acres of asphalt.
One day about 18 months ago, Danny J. White was driving to work
and glanced toward the familiar hill and the concealed cemetery. He was
startled to see it surrounded by yellow trucks, graders, backhoes and dirt
He raced immediately to the cemetery and felt his stomach heave.
The tombstones were gone. There were ugly gashes in the earth. The big yellow
machines had pulled the graves from the earth.
"It was sickening," he recalled. He was furious. He made dozens of
phone calls and fired off angry letters to an assortment of government
officials seeking an explanation.
He got one.
It was all quite legal, according to state officials. Now go away
and quit bothering us, Danny J. White.
He wondered how such an abomination could occur in conservative,
family-values Indiana where, he, like most Hoosiers, was raised to respect the
dead and revere their hallowed, final resting place.
"How did this happen?" he asked. "You don't mess with graves."
Well, here's what happened, Danny. They do mess with graves.
James Rhoads, Thomas, Henry, Casey, Elmer and the other children
and eight adults who rested more than 150 years in the safety of the walnut
grove became the property of Duke Realty Investments Inc.
Duke, which owns or manages 60 million square feet of real estate
in eight states, bought the 21.2 acres and the 360-square-foot cemetery in
"We purchased the land for development purposes," explained Donna
Coppinger, the helpful vice president of marketing for Duke. "We couldn't
develop a site with a cemetery on it."
"It wasn't what we wanted to do," she said.
Duke will soon level the hill and build a 458,000-square-foot bulk
distribution warehouse on the 21.2 acres, obliterating the one-tenth-acre
Nearly two years ago, after they bought the land Duke hired an
archaeology company called NES Inc. in Blue Ash, Ohio, and together they filed
the necessary forms with the Indiana Department of Natural Resources Division
of Historic Preservation and Archaeology to dig up the Rhoads, Foltz, Shute
and Rude families.
State laws, which are made by the 150 members of the Indiana
General Assembly with extensive guidance from corporate lobbyists, allow
property owners to demolish old cemeteries they find on their land. Throw away
the tombstones, plant corn or build a warehouse on the graves. It's legal.
DNR's chief archaeologist Rick Jones is monitoring the Duke
demolition. He said his agency issues about 10 cemetery relocation permits a
year. How many cemeteries simply are destroyed, he doesn't know. "We have no
way of knowing," he said.
But throwing away tombstones and paving over graves doesn't
require a permit. Just do it. It's legal. In fact, old tombstones often end up
in flea markets.
"Most people think cemeteries are forever," Jones explained slowly
and uncomfortably. This is not a topic most state officials enjoy discussing.
"In Indiana, cemeteries are not forever. If you own the property, you can
bulldoze them down. Basically, in Indiana, nothing is sacred."
Digging into graves and moving them does require some paperwork,
except for farmers who are exempt from even that minor inconvenience.
"Farmers can just throw away the tombstones and plow up the
graves," said Jones. "And they do. The Indiana Farm Bureau got the legislature
to exempt farmers."
A couple years ago, DNR proposed a bill to offer some mild
protection for old pioneer cemeteries. Corporate lobbyists smothered the bill
in committee, and it never received even token consideration.
The end of Rhoads
Anyway, Duke's cemetery demolition project proceeded under DNR
Digging Permit 960062.
NES Inc. archaeologist Jeannine Kreinbrink directed the removal of
"remains," once known in another life as James Rhoads, Elmer, Thomas, Casey
Kreinbrink, who now works for Natural and Ethical Environmental
Solutions Inc. of Liberty Township, Ohio, did not return phone calls.
She did submit a preliminary report, as required, to the DNR's
It's a haunting document, complete with photographs of the
"remains." In many cases, much remains of the remains, like the perfectly
preserved bones of little children, their arms crossed, lying in tiny
hexagonal coffins. Pieces of shoes and clothing remain.
The report also contains a diagram of each grave's location, the
shape of the coffin and what was in it. Each former person is identified by a
letter and a number.
For example, C-2 was the "well-preserved remains of an adult. Sex
unknown. Head to west. Arms at side."
B-10 contained the "well-preserved remains of an adult. Arms
folded with hands over waist."
Mr. D-1 was obviously a wheat farmer because he was buried with a
wheat scythe and a small plate.
Infant D-6 was buried beneath 2.8 feet of dirt in a decorative
metal coffin called a sarcophagus with a glass viewing window.
E-7 was an older adult male with a engraved tulip on his coffin
and the words "Rest In Peace."
A-1 was the "poorly preserved remains of an infant, sex unknown.
Few scattered post cranial remains."
B-1 was an "adult female 20-35 years. Well-preserved remains."
And on it went in graphic detail. Most people were buried under
only 2 feet of dirt, symbolically facing the setting sun, the western horizon.
"I feel a connection with these people," Rick Jones said quietly,
flipping through the depressing document. "You feel something looking into a
child's grave after 150 years. These are people that used to live, walk around
and breathe. We're literally looking into the past and I feel a profound sense
He paused, blinked a couple times.
"This is a serious thing."
Once Elmer and the others were dug up, labeled with numbers and
letters, they were shipped to anthropologist Stephen Nawrocki at the
University of Indianapolis on the Southside.
He was hired by Duke under terms of digging permit 960062, which
required an "osteological" investigation by an anthropologist. That is a study
of the bones and "artifacts" for historical significance.
"I haven't been cleared by Duke to discuss this with reporters.
I'm just a sub, sub contractor," said Nawrocki. Jeannine Kreinbrink called and
told him not to talk, he said. Her firm is paying his fees.
When will your report be done, doctor?
"I don't know."
Once his report is complete, DNR will either order Duke to rebury
the "remains" somewhere else or they will "be kept in a lab for future study,"
Last December, Blair D. Carmosino, Development Services Director,
Duke Construction Inc., fired off a stern letter to DNR officials.
"Duke's schedule for construction start-up in this project area is
rapidly approaching, so it is imperative that the (DNR) properly issue a
clearance letter for this project area."
Part of the reason for delay was DNR's displeasure with Jeannine
Kreinbrink's preliminary report. Jon C. Smith, director of DNR's Division of
Historic Preservation and Archaeology, found about 40 points in her report he
wanted explained, corrected or expanded upon -- like what did Duke plan to do
with the "unwanted" headstones they dug up?
On July 22, DNR issued a conditional permit to begin "ground
disturbing activities" but demanded an archaeologist be present in case
additional "human remains" are uncovered.
"We'll probably start drainage work and soil things soon," said
Donna Coppinger, the Duke marketing person. "Site preparation before winter
means if we can get the site ready, we construct our industrial warehouse
product this winter. The building will be 1,032 feet long and 440 feet wide."
This is good news? "It is good news. We're good corporate
neighbors," she said.
Property of Duke
The other day Danny J. White visited the old cemetery one last
time before the ancient walnuts and solitary oak are bulldozed, the hill
flattened and the "final" resting place for 35 kids and eight adults is erased
from the face of the earth.
He hiked through the alfalfa field, brimming with buzzing bees,
butterflies and summer wildflowers and up the hill. He rummaged around through
the dense brush at the edge of the cemetery. Day lilies planted 150 years ago
around the graves still flourish.
"Look what I found," he said suddenly, emerging from the brush
with the broken top half of a tombstone bearing the words "WIFE OF JAMES
RHOADS. DIED." He found it in a bulldozed pile of dirt between two old tires,
beer cans and soda pop bottles.
What to do? Surely the DNR would want Mrs. Rhoads' broken
tombstone. It couldn't be left in the pile of tires and broken glass. Somebody
might steal it. It might be demolished in "site preparation." It could be lost
forever, a historic treasure, the last poignant symbol of a person's life,
sacrificed on the altar of economic development and corporate neighborliness.
A quick phone call to DNR research archaeologist Amy L. Johnson
provided the answer.
"Put it back," she said firmly.
"Put it back," she said again.
"It belongs to Duke. It is their property."
James Rhoads' wife's name was believed to be Hannah, and she died
on July 24, 1849, at age 85. Her husband, remember, was the first person
buried in the cemetery in August 1844.
Her broken tombstone, which was carefully placed in the Hoosier
soil during solemn, no doubt tearful, ceremonies 149 long summers ago, was
returned to the pile of bulldozed dirt, tires, broken glass, beer and pop
It belonged to Duke.
It's the law.
I need help with this family. This is what I have so far:
Absalom WILSON, born ca. 1804 in Virginia
married on April 16, 1846 in Perry County to
Mary Ann HOOD, born ca. 1830 in South Carolina
With the age difference, this was probably NOT the first marriage for
Among their children was Mary Elizabeth WILSON, born ca. 1853
in Randolph County. Married on March 29, 1870 to
Benjamin S. McBride
Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
I was born in MO but now live in TX. My journey into genealogy began two years ago, and I love spending time with "the grandmas and grandpas" and their families. Unfortunately, it has not been possible for me to visit Perry Co. in person, but I hope to do so one day. My great-grandmother, Josephine TAYLOR HALL, and her parents, Ephriam Reese TAYLOR and Sarah Harriet GILL were born in Perry Co. In fact, if the truth were known, I'm probably a distant cousin to about half the people who live in the Du Quoin area!
I am researching the ancestors and descendants of:
Thomas TAYLOR and wife Mary ____
Grace TAYLOR & Lewis WELLS, Jr.
Richard R. TAYLOR & Sallie ____
Phobe TAYLOR & Parris A. HICKMAN
Joseph A. TAYLOR & Edith PYLE
Charlotte TAYLOR & Josephus VANCIL
Michael James TAYLOR & Jane WELLS (my direct line)
William A. TAYLOR
Electa Elizabeth TAYLOR & (1) ____GOFORTH, & (2) Isaac SNIDER
George Washington GILL and wife Martha Pelisha "Patsy" GRESHAM
James M. GILL & Elvira TAYLOR
Susan E. GILL & William E. DUNN
Daniel GILL & Lucinda PYLE
Thomas E. GILL & Nancy PYLE
Sarah Harriet GILL & Ephriam Reese TAYLOR (my direct line)
Leo Fenwick GILL & Lettie SMITH
Pelisha GILL & Thomas PYATT
Adelia Honeywell GILL & John Hampton "Hamp" CAMPBELL
Isabel "Belle" GILL & John Franklin HUMPHREY
Lewis WELLS Sr. and wife Elizabeth "Betsy" BATES
Thomas Bates WELLS & Sarah "Sally" McCLANE (my direct line)
Lewis WELLS, Jr. and (1) Grace TAYLOR, & (2) Anna ____
Elizabeth WELLS & John WINTERS
Elijah WELLS & Sarah FORD
Martha "Patsy" WELLS & William WILLIAMS
Sarah "Sally" WELLS & Abner PYLE, Sr.
Keziah WELLS & Robert McELVAIN
Mary "Polly" WELLS & John "Jack" PYLE, Sr.
Joseph WELLS & Permelia STEPHENS
Giles WELLS & Martha FRUIT
Ann WELLS, a daughter of Thomas Bates WELLS, (and sister to my ggg-grandmother Jane WELLS TAYLOR), married Elihu ONSTOTT. Another daughter, Martha WELLS, married Daniel W. DRY. Through these and others, I am also distantly related to the families of KIMMEL, SCHWARTZ, LIPE and many others.
I would be glad to share information regarding any of the above listed surnames.
Cheryl F. Luginbill
I am Carol Shaw and searching for information on Shaw's,
Robinson/Robertson, Sattler, Illig. I am willing to exchange information
with anyone that is also looking into these families. I have visited Perry
County several times and love to do my searching there. It if full of
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