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Hello there all, Here is some
MAILING LIST TIDBITS
by Cyndi Howells <http://www.CyndisList.com>
A "listowner" maintains a mailing list. The listowner is
usually the person who originally established the list and
determined the purpose of the list and any rules associated with
it. The listowner also helps those who need help to subscribe and
unsubscribes from the list successfully.
Messages sent to mailing lists are forwarded via e-mail to a
software program, which then distributes a copy of the message to
each of the subscribers on that list.
There are at least two different e-mail addresses associated with
each mailing list. The first address is used for sending
"subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands by e-mail. The second
address is used to send e-mail messages to all of the other
subscribers on the mailing list. Pay close attention to the
differences between these two e-mail addresses, so that you know
you are using the right address for the proper function.
Most mailing lists have two versions: mail mode and digest mode.
Mail mode is for individual messages to be delivered one at a
time to each subscriber. Digest mode is for several messages to
be delivered to each subscriber in one message.
After you successfully subscribe to a mailing list you will
receive a welcome message with details on how that particular
list works. Keep a copy of the welcome message.
These suggestions apply to mailing lists and are also good rules
for regular e-mail correspondence. The last thing in the world
you want to do is inadvertently offend that cousin who has the
priceless records about your ancestors.
Read the subscription (subscribe and unsubscribe) instructions
carefully and follow them exactly. Don't pester the listowner for
personal help. Try subscribing and unsubscribing at least five
times before you ask for help. You can do it! Read -- don't skim
-- the welcome message, FAQ, Web page or any other information
sent to you regarding the mailing list and how it works. The
rules do apply to you. Follow them.
After joining a mailing list, "lurk" (read, do not respond) for a
while. Use the correct e-mail address when posting or replying to
messages. If you want to reply to someone privately, be sure you
are not replying to the entire list. Look at the "TO:" window in
your e-mail before you hit that "REPLY" button.
Do not send "test" messages to mailing lists. (Mailing lists
work; you don't have to "test" them.)
Never return an entire letter, message, or newsletter to the
sender or to the mailing list. Check the automatic functions on
your e-mail program to avoid this. Turn that function off.
Do not post any inappropriate messages to a list. For example,
don't post genealogical queries about when/where your great-
grandparents were married to a list that deals with those
coordinating work on compiling cemetery records for a state or
county. Don't send any requests for genealogical research to a
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necessary to clarify your reply or to remind the recipient about
the original topic.
Mailing lists are like genealogical societies or any group of
people -- composed of many different types of personalities.
Remember that misunderstandings can happen easily, as it is
impossible to convey body language via e-mail. Avoid topics and
discussions that may be controversial in nature.
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Do not assume anything. Clarify all statements before you react.
Be patient with all "newbies" to a mailing list. Remember that we
all had to start somewhere!
The Internet is a global community; therefore be tolerant of
others who use English, French, or any language differently than
you do. Watch your slang and acronyms. Language that is readily
understood and socially acceptable in the United States or
Australia might be incomprehensible or even embarrassing to your
British, Canadian, or German cousins.
STRATEGIES AND REWARDS
Sign your e-mail with your name and e-mail address. Not all
e-mail software automatically provides this information in the
headers. Make it easy on your cousins, so they can contact you.
Give a mailing list a fair chance to prove useful. Don't be
discouraged if a list is low in traffic or if there are lulls in
the conversations. Hang around on a list for a while before you
decide to quit. Remember it is a two-way street. Don't ask what
all you can GET from a list -- offer to GIVE something.
You never know what might pop up! A researcher I know just
received a copy of an 1800 Bible entry for her ancestors. It came
from a distant cousin she met via a mailing list. She had been
searching for this material for more than 20 years.
Hello everyone Just thought I would take a minute and give a short update
on what is happening around Bear Lake county gen web. I have added a
researcher profile page. The information for this area is usually taken
from a letter to the list, or from our query board. This gives everyone a
little webspace to say who they are and what they are looking for. Also a
place for A link to your own web page if you have one.
Some other things in Roots web review this week here is a ural to check out
Shoshone County, Idaho 1870 (partial) transcribed by Jack Murray
Here is another clip
NOW WHAT DO I DO WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF?
by Edward Henry Gaulin (Sr.) <EHGAULIN(a)worldnet.att.net>
A message on the Internet caught my eye the other day and I can't
get it out of my mind. A West Coast genealogist had been
exchanging information with a researcher in Virginia for some
time. Then it happened. Her last message bounced -- it couldn't
be delivered as the address no longer existed. Fortunately she
had received a number of family group sheets from her
correspondent which listed a telephone number. When she called
the number a man answered, so she asked for her Internet friend
and, after a slight hesitation was told, "Oh, Mary Ann passed
away three weeks ago." Shocked, but ever gracious, she expressed
her sympathy and commented how close this long-distance
relationship had become and how it will be missed by her. The
husband explained that he was sorry that he couldn't be of any
help because he really didn't know much about what his wife was
doing with her genealogy.
Perhaps you too have noticed at genealogical gatherings that the
average age of the participants is something in excess of 39
years, at least judging by hair color. Most of us really don't
have a lot of time to devote to our hobby until after the kids
are grown, out of school and we've retired. Then it is no longer
a hobby, it becomes an obsession. At some point in our continuous
search for dead people, our ancestors, we recognize our own
mortality and start to think about a permanent home for our
research. If our children or grandchildren appear to be
interested, we have it made, but frequently that's not the case.
Then what happens to our "stuff"?
Genealogists are usually pretty smart people, until it comes to
providing for the distribution of their genealogical assets. The
latter, in my case anyway, is a room full of books, journals,
magazines, pamphlets, maps, photographs, brochures, newsletters,
computer equipment and furniture (desk, chairs, file cabinets,
tables, lamps, etc.). The files are loaded with folders bearing
family and town names, historic events, and a bunch labeled
"MISC." There are miles of computer printouts, hundreds of
photocopies, and many "original" vital records. My desk is
usually loaded with correspondence awaiting an answer -- either
mine or from someone else. What should my wife do with all this
stuff when I make the ultimate research trip -- a personal
meeting with my ancestors?
Some of our brighter colleagues say "My college library is
getting all my stuff" or it's going to the local public library
or to the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City or even to
the Library of Congress. Well, I hate to be the one to tell you
this, but unless you are a celebrity or a huge financial donor,
these institutions probably won't want your material -- they just
don't have room for it. They would be grateful for a copy of your
book, but they might not want the manuscript or research notes.
The FHL would appreciate a GEDCOM disk of your genealogy database
files, but it doesn't want your paper pedigree charts or family
So what are your spouse and children to do with all of your
stuff? They could really do a couple of dumb things with it if
you don't provide guidance to them while you still can. It could
be placed in the weekly trash collection and don't say "They
wouldn't do that" because it unfortunately happens all the time.
How about a garage sale? Now that is really scary, but it also
happens every day. Remember all those old photos and tintypes you
have seen in flea markets? How about all those bargain genealogy
books you bought because you got to that garage sale before the
dealers did? They all had to come from someplace.
What should you do to insure the sane distribution of your
genealogical assets? Perhaps the first thing is to make a record
of what you have and then try to keep it current. Show the
acquisition date and how much you paid for each item on the
inventory sheets. This is especially helpful for artifacts,
collections, and books. A photographic record of these items,
including those of rare books, could also be useful. Microfilm,
microfiche and complete photocopies of books and some records
have value. Back issues of many journals, newsletters, and
magazines are also in demand by genealogists and therefore have
value. However, if you don't tell them what is valuable, your
heirs probably won't know.
Now that you have identified your assets, you need to tell
someone what you want done with them. Maybe the simplest way is
to prepare a letter to your heirs, but remember this lacks the
force of law. If they want to, they can toss everything in the
trash. A better way to provide for the distribution is in your
will, particularly if you also designate sufficient funds to
carry out your wishes. Your Last Will and Testament is also where
you may make specific bequests: your copy of the 1898 edition of
Burke's Peerage to your FGS Conference roommate or your old
roll-top desk to your newest granddaughter. Your wishes can now
be enforced by the courts, if necessary.
If you still want to have any of your assets given to your alma
mater or a local library or anywhere else, personally contact
that agency and discuss the possibility -- right now. It won't
come as a surprise to them and they should be able to advise you
immediately of any conditions of acceptance. If you can support
those conditions, ask for a written acknowledgment that can be
placed with your will.
Some other things that you can do right now are to distribute
copies of your research among your family, friends, and, perhaps,
local or national libraries. This is simple if you have
progressed to the book-writing stage, but don't be too concerned
if you haven't. Many genealogists assemble their pedigree charts,
group sheets, pertinent vital records, selected family
photographs, and other important documents in notebook form. They
write a brief introduction, provide a table of contents, and
sometimes an index before having copies made for distribution.
Afterwards, the notebook can be kept current with a new year's
letter which might include new charts and photos.
Computerized genealogical data can be distributed in the same way
on diskette. Sometimes an envelope or jacket is provided in the
notebook described above to house data disks. Another way some
researchers try to insure the safeguarding of their electronic
data is to submit it to the LDS Ancestral File (tm) or one or
more of the other commercial collections. If you don't know how
to do this, consult your local genealogical society or Family
History Center or even the public library for instructions.
Another thing you can do right now to benefit your heirs is to
clean up your files. Eliminate unnecessary correspondence and
duplicate copies of records. Toss out all those old printouts you
made in 1984 on your Apple IIe computer. Sell all the
"Genealogical Helper" magazines you have saved since 1973,
because you will never open one of them again and you know it. If
you get 50 cents each for them you can have a pretty good dinner.
Give away all that old computer software that is taking up room
on your bookshelves -- it's probably not worth anything anyway.
Label your photographs, and diskettes too.
I find it a bit morbid, but you may wish to write your epitaph
and select your tombstone now to insure future researchers will
not encounter some of the same problems that you've had.
If you decide to follow some of these suggestions, when you do
eventually meet your ancestors they may thank you for
perpetuating their memory. They may also show you where you made
some of your mistakes and be able to fill in a few of the blank
spaces in your previous research.
Remember, do it now; there may be no tomorrow.
* * * * *
and here is my favorite part of the newsletter the new mailing list's for
NEW MAILING LIST REQUESTS. USGenWeb and WorldGenWeb hosts may
have FREE locality mailing lists for the areas they host and for
that purpose may ignore the "Sponsors-only" warning on the list
request page. Please request new mailing lists at:
NEW SURNAME MAILING LISTS
ATTAKULLAKULLA (ancestors and descendants of Attakullakulla)
BURGE (with links to Macoupin County, Illinois)
HARBISON (includes Harbinson, Harbeson, Harvison, Harveson,
LINES-FAMILY (includes Line, Lyne, Lynes)
SCHISSLER (includes Schiesler, Schisler, Schoessler,
Schuessler, Shisler and Schizler)
SPALDING (includes Spaulding)
STROCK (includes Strack)
STUDDARD (includes Studard and Stoddard)
WOLTZ (includes Waltz and Wolz)
HISTORY OF BEAR LAKE PIONEERS
WILLIAM GAMMON HAYWARD FAMILY
by Ira Hayward
William G. Hayward was born October 1, 1854, at Salt Lake City, a son of
Gammon Hayward and Sarah Ann Cripps, who had immigrated from England several
years before. His marriage to Ellen Neibaur occurred June 27, 1878, and
together they reared a fine, honorable family, many of whom have become
prominent in their professions in Bear Lake and other areas.
He took advantage of opportunities to learn several trades while he was a
young man in Salt Lake. He was engaged as a carpenter and builder. He
learned harness making and he helped his father build and operate a
wheelwright shop. He was also a shipwright and built the first steamboat to
navigate the waters of Great Salt Lake.
While William lived in Salt Lake he became well aquatinted with the John A.
Sutton family. Shortly after the Suttons moved to Bear Lake and settled in
Paris, he followed and made his home with them until the time of his
marriage. He continued in the trade of contracting and building and set up
a wheelwright shop adjoining the Sutton blacksmith shop.
The year 1889 saw the Hayward family move from town and settle on a
homestead southwest of Paris. There were the parents and seven children.
The site was very beautiful, as it overlooked much of the Valley. A
comfortable home was built and here they passed through many trials and
satisfying experiences as well.
One of the big problems of pioneering was to get water out onto the lands,
so that farming could be more successful. Being adept to and self-taught in
mathematics, William supervised the building of an irrigation canal from the
creek in Paris Canyon, which took the waters of this stream onto the thirstv
acres of his own farm and those of his neighbors, extending its benefits to
residents of the northern section of Bloomington.
For a number of years, he and his close friend, Charles Innes followed the
telegraph lines leading from Paris up over the mountains to the summit.
Their work was to keep the lines in good repair. These journeys were made
on snowshoes and at times the traveling became very hazardous, especially
when heavy snowstorms and blizzards would strike.
He filled a mission to Montana. He left his wife and several children under
conditions that were not too prosperous. Food often became scarce, and
managing the farm fell upon the shoulders of the mother and a
Following the mission he was called by President William Budge to serve on
the High Council. Following this he became first counselor to Bishop H.
Edward Sutton of the Paris First Ward.
He was always interested in and helped promote civic improvements, serving
on the city council for several years. He supervised the installation of
the first water system for Paris. Besides working as a builder and
contractor, he became a first-rate plumber.
William and Ellen loved to attend parties, plays and dances. He often
called for the dances, which were mostly plain quadrilles, with a few
waltzes and two-steps allowed.
Many honors are in order for his good wife, who labored along with her
husband and always gave him her full support. Along with the hardships of
pioneer life, she served as president of the Relief Society of the First
Ward for a long period of time. She and her associates spent many hours
visiting and caring for the sick, comforting those in mourning, and keeping
abreast of the needs of the people of the ward. She was a friend to
everyone and shed cheerfulness and good will wherever she went. She was a
daughter of Joseph William Neibaur, one of Bear Lake's earliest pioneers.
Two sons, Joseph William and James Clement, became medical doctors; Joseph
William, during the early years of his career practiced in Bear Lake under
pioneer conditions, making long trips to visit the sick. He used a team of
horses and buggy in summer, and in winter, a cutter, and, donning a heavy
fur coat, was protected against the intense cold and blizzards. Later, he
and his brother, James Clement, practiced the healing arts in Cache Valley,
both making homes in Logan. Another son, Charles Lynn, gained a doctorate
in zoology and teaches at Brigham Young University. Ira Neibaur earned a
Master's degree and has been teaching in the fields of English, literature,
and philosophy at Utah State University at Logan. Five grandsons have also
become doctors of medicine.
Other children who grew to adulthood were Libbie, Clara, Ellen, Enid, Kezia,
and Gammon Henry. Two girls, Ruth and Gladys, died in infancy.
Sign Doug Neibaur
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