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Hi All: Mary Beth, I hope David's wife hasn't 'bumped him off'....
(Admittedly I'm laughing here -- David is a really good guy..)
I've also asked for a response to my following concerns.. FYI:
Date: 01/12/07 21:58:22
Subject: DAVID NISWENDER - LUCAS COUNTY, IOWA WEBSITE
Hello Barbara: I earlier contacted Rootsweb to see if they could help with
my concern. They suggested I contact you, so I am including my note to and
from them. I would appreciate hearing from you about this matter and
appreciate your attention to it.
Best Regards, Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert at iggy29(a)sbcglobal.net
From: RootsWeb HelpDesk
Date: 01/12/07 21:36:53
Subject: Re: WEBSITES: Absence of Coordinator (Clare #415706)
A response to your Help Desk message, "WEBSITES: Absence of Coordinator,"
of Fri, 12 Jan 2007, at 6:15 p.m. follows:
RootsWeb hosts but does not maintain those pages. Please go here:
and contact the State Coordinator to report the webmaster's absense.
> URL (Web address):
Message: David Niswender
> is the Website Coordinator for Lucas County, Iowa
> -- also the List Administrator. I have tried
> many times to contact him, but he does not respond.
> His e-mail addy is Niswender(a)aol.com A number
> of people are concerned about his 'no show' this
> past year. In all fairness someone who has the
> interest in the website should be the Coordinator
> and List Administrator. I would appreciate knowing
> why he is allowed to be absent for such a long
Thanks for your response, Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert
> at iggy29(a)sbcglobal.net
Lucas County CC at http://iagenweb.org/lucas/
Greetings IAGENWEB Leadership,
One of our top notch Site Coordinators has "gone missing" and we are
concerned. He was married several months ago and we haven't heard from
him since! The web site was last update March 26, 2006. [info above].
Might you be aware of the status of the web site ? I have written to
Ancestry.com as well regarding our concerns for Davis and the web site.
Thanks ahead of time for advisement.
Mary Beth Jensen, Wisconsin
Hi All: Has anyone heard anything from David Niswender? He is the Lucas Co.
Web Site Coordinator and List Administrator. I have tried repeatedly to
visit with him -- my e-mails apparently get to him, but I get no reply.
Perhaps if we all take the time to e-mail him at Niswender(a)aol.com, he'll
answer. Forgive my impatience, but I don't think he should be absent as
long as he has been, without letting someone know why. The Web Site has not
been updated in a long time. I'm frustrated about this.
Maybe I should go to Cranky.com (smiles..) Nancee
I saw in the Indianapolis Star this morning that this is a search engine for people over 50........haven't tried it yet, but am going to!
I've decided to change the birthplace reference of Milton Douglass from what
it was to Mt. Vernon, Black Twp., Posey Co., IN, with the "Hoop-Pole"
reference parenthetical. The anecdote from Emily Moore is at least as
strong as the original reference ("Hoophole") which was undoubtedly oral. I
think I got it from either Frank Myers or David Niswender, both of whom read
this list, but I must take the blame for failing to check the geography of
my entries. I do that now, but 'twas not always so.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:59 AM
Subject: Thank you ... HoopPole Twp., IN info
> Thank you for the great story of the HoopPole Twp. "vigilantes" -- Mt.
> Vernon area, Ohio river valley, and the origins of "Hoop Pole Twp.,IN!"
The towns' folks sure took care of the hooligans! Yes, that WAS a
> very interesting story! I will have to file that info with Judge Milton
> Douglass, who lived for a time in Lucas Co. and served as Judge there.
> [via Richard Kinkead's notes.].
> I change Milton Douglass's birth location to HoopPole Twp, IN [was
> Hoophole Twp.,IN] is that correct, then?
> I will copy this to Richard Kinkead to check out since I got the
> originial information from his posting in Trees in Ancestry.com.
> Perhaps between the two of you, I will learn which I should put down.
> Keep in touch,
> Mary Beth in Wisconsin
> based upon....
> ubject: Post on IALUCAS mailing list, Milton Douglas b. 18 Dec 1818
> From: EAllynM(a)aol.com
> Date: Thu, January 11, 2007 9:09 am
> To: gmjensen(a)wildblue.net
> Dear Mary Beth,
> I saw your post on the IALUCAS mailing list and noticed that you had
> "Hoophole Township, Posey County, IL as a place of birth for Milton
> Douglass b: Dec 18, 1818.
> I grew up in Mt. Vernon, Black Township, Posey County, Indiana, and can
> assure you that "Hoop-Pole Township" was a nickname for the Mt. Vernon
> area. Back in the 19th century (about 1833), some men who were working on
> riverboats on the Ohio River stopped at Mt. Vernon. They became
> intoxicated and rowdy and picked a fight with some of the local men.
> Initially, the men from the flatboats won the fight. Then some of the
> locals armed themselves with hoop-poles from a cooper shop, where barrels
> and kegs were made. They used these to beat the riverboat men out of
> town. After this incident, Mt. Vernon had a reputation up and down the
> Ohio River as a dangerous place to visit if you chose to tangle with the
> local population. The area became known as "Hoop-Pole Township." Mt.
> Vernon was happy to have this reputation since it tended to decrease
> crime. Even today, the yearbook of Mt. Vernon High School is called The
> Hoop-Pole and I think there is still an old hoop-pole in a display case at
> the high school, decorated with one ribbon for every class that has
> graduated from Mt. Vernon H.S.
> History of Posey County, Indiana, From the Earliest Time to the Present;
> with Biographical Sketches, Reminiscences, Notes, etc; Together with and
> Extended History of the Northwest, The Indiana Territory, and the State of
> Indiana, Goodspeed, Chicago: 1886, page 365.
> Leffel, John C., History of Posey County, Indiana, Standard Publishing
> Company, Chicago, 1913, page 86.
> Hope you find this interesting.
> Emily Moore
Mornin' Mary Beth: Abram 1812VA and Lucinda Davis 1824 Tuttle are my second
ggparents. Abrams sister Telitha Tuttle Hunt was born 1816, and brother
Lewis in 1817. We know next to nothing about their father Benjamin, but
we never considered that he was a child of an earlier marriage. Could have
been but we have nothing to go on.
My records show that Lucindas parents were Thompson Davis and Delilah McGee.
This info is old data. Abram and Lucinda have the same grave marker, with
their data on different faces of the monument which I have visited and
photographed in the old Freedom Cemetery in Wayne County. Nettie Tuttle
Fluke monument is about 20 feet away from Abram/Lucinda. Wayne County is
directly SOUTH of Lucas, by the way.
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of gmjensen(a)wildblue.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:45 PM
To: Richard Kinkead; ialucas(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [IALUCAS] neatest things you find re: pioneer life pix ; Tuttle
m. Lucinda Davis; John Davis m. Jones>Threlkeld
You find the neatest things to share with us Listers!
Thank you . Looked at several of the images and saved some
as well for possible use. Good idea. If nothing else, it gives us great
images to savour.
Bet it's a LOT warmer in Florida than our Wisconsin!
William T: Here's hoping Frank Myers was watching the list re:
the Fluke info. If not now, he'll likely catch up later. Sounds like
you connect to him via Nettie Tuttle Fluke [who was an important
genealogical contributor in her time]! Good to hear from you!
Lucinda Davis, b. Feb 17, 1827 VA m. Abel/Abram/Abraham Tuttle,
b. Sep 12, 1812 NC. Might Lucinda be related to my John Davis, b.
1809 NC who m. #2 Sarah Threlkeld, b. 1822 IN, first wf was Sarah Jones,
b. 1809 NC ?? John & Sarah settled in Lucas Co.
>From my Notes:
p. 238 Lucas Co., Iowa Cemtery book.
Is the Abram Tuttle, Sept. 12, 1812 - Jan 12, 1887 one in the same as this
Abraham ?? Abram is buried next to Lucinda, Feb. 17, 1827 - Feb. 15, 1884
at Freedom Cemetery, Warren Twp., Lucas Co., Iowa.
Was this Abram from an earlier marriage of his father's or is the birth
date actually 1822 bringing it close to that of the next sibling ?? mbj
Hmmm, the 1860 Census
Shown as Abel Tuttle, age 46, Farmer $1200, $312, b NC
Wf is Lucinda, age 35, Lewis, 15, etc, ch Sarah A., age 5 ... family
Living next door to Malichi Lane, age 54 [b. abt 1806]
Some info about John Davis ...
Descendants of John Davis
23 John Davis b: Feb 15, 1809 in #1Guilford Co, North Carolina d: Jul
06, 1886 in Russell, Lucas Co, IA @ 77y 4m 29d
... +Sarah Jones b: Jan 01, 1809 in Stokes Co, NC d: Sep 14, 1838 in
Jonesville, Wayne Twp., Bartholomew Co, IN. m: Dec 09, 1830 in Stokes Co.,
... 24 Austin R. Davis b: Nov 25, 1831 in Columbus, Bartholomew Co,
IN d: Jan 31, 1896 in Prob. Lucas Co., IA
........ +Malinda Holeman b: Jun 06, 1841 d: Feb 22, 1911 in Prob. Lucas
Co., IA m: Jan 06, 1861 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL
... 24 Keziah Lucinda "Lucinda" Davis b: Sep 11, 1835 in Sandcreek Twp.,
Bartholomew Co, IN d: Jun 24, 1900 in Russell, Lucas Co, IA
........ +David Holmes Rowland b: Jan 12, 1828 in IN d: Mar 24, 1900 in
IA m: Aug 12, 1855 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL
... 24 Leah Davis b: Mar 11, 1838 in Jonesville, Bartholomew Co, IN d:
Jul 1838 in Jonesville, Wayne Twp., Bartholomew Co, IN.
*2nd Wife of John Davis:
... +Sarah Threlkeld b: Dec 10, 1822 in Jackson, Wayne Co., Indiana d:
Aug 27, 1917 in near Russell, Lucas Co., IA, @ ag 94y 8m 17d m: May 06,
1842 in Jackson Co., Indiana
... 24 Isaac Newton Davis b: Mar 21, 1843 in Indiana or Roseville,
Warren Co, IL d: May 04, 1927
... 24 Laura Davis b: Bet. 1844 - 1850 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL
........ +R. A. Hazelquist b: Abt. 1851
... 24 Nelson Davis b: Oct 19, 1850 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL d: Dec
04, 1889 in @ag 39y 1m 12d
... 24 Melvina Davis b: Nov 15, 1855 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL d: Apr
08, 1906 in Russell, Lucas Co., Iowa @ age 50y 4m 23d
........ +John Quincy Werts b: Jun 02, 1855 in Zanesville, Muskingum
County, Ohio d: Apr 13, 1953 in Canton, Barron Co., WI m: Apr 02, 1879 in
Russell, Lucas County, Iowa
... 24 Smith Davis b: 1858 in Chariton, Lucas Co, IA d: 1915
........ +Ella _____ b: 1861 d: 1943
Updates always most welcomed,
Mary Beth in Wisconsin
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There is a death certificate for Elizabeth, but unfortunately it does not
give the names of her parents. The names of Lenox's parents are given in his
death certificate, however.
The marriage of Lenox and Elizabeth (Davis) Duckworth is not recorded in
Lucas County, so it must have occurred elsewhere despite the Patriot report.
Iowa marriage records of that era rarely contained parents' names, although
sometimes that can be figured out by implication --- if the marriage
occurred at the parents' home, for example.
Not very helpful this morning, I'm afraid.
Good morning list,
This is an email from Patrick McCleary:
Thank you for posting this information! For anyone interested, I do have
information on these individuals. Fred C. and Clara Martz Boland had at least one
daughter named Helen. Fred C. was born c1884 in Iowa and was the son of James
and Eunice H. Thompson Boland (May 18, 1857- May 1, 1935). Eunice was the
daughter of Nathaniel and Sarah Shephard Thompson of Afton, Union County Iowa.
After her father, Nathaniel's death, her mother married Perry Miller, a widower
from Michigan. Both her mother and her step-father resided in Afton, Iowa.
Eunice had two natural born siblings, Robert and Charlotte Thompson Reagan; and
seven step-brothers and sisters. I would like to correspond with anyone having
an interest in any of these individuals. Many thanks in advance, and again my
thanks for posting this marriage information! Patrick
Patrick would like to know if anyone has access to the obituary for Fred
Boland's mother below.
Eunice H. Thompson Boland died May 01, 1935 at Chariton, Lucas County, Iowa,
and is buried in Greenlawn Cemetery, Afton, Union County, Iowa.
Anyone interested in contacting Patrick McCleary his email address is:
One more thing, Juanita ...
Oh, yes, did take a look at the census for June 23, 1870 Warren
Twp... and see the Nancy Davis, age 15, living with the Duckworth's.
It shows her b. Iowa, in abt 1855.
I see your Elizabeth, age 37, was b. Ohio, and has 5 ch in the 1870
census with the youngest being 9 months old and the next 3y.
Another possible scenario:
- Perhaps Nancy Davis, 15, was counted twice [as was my Great Grandmother
while "servant' away from home?]
- Perhaps Nancy is a niece of Eliz.'s on summer vacation, helping Eliz.
with the little children .... and hanging out with her cousins?
There was Nancy Davis, age 15 both in Washington Twp., Wayne Co.,IA
on July 29, 1870 Census, dau. of John Davis, b. abt 1827, Ohio. Another
was June 23, 1870 Census, Nancy, 15, b. IA living with Levi Davis, no wf,
7ch. in Adams Twp., Dallas Co., IA. Wayne Co. is just north of Lucas
and Dallas is just north of Wayne Co.,IA, so proximity is there.
Just some thoughts, possibilities... nothing for sure.
Happy Hunting, mbj
I'm interested in this posting about the Davis family in Lucas Co.
Iowa because I have been unable to find my great grandmother's
family. Her name was Elizabeth Davis Duckworth.
Elizabeth Davis was born in Gallia Co. Ohio 2 July 1833 according to
her obituary. Parents names not known. On 25 December 1855 she
lived in Chariton, Lucas Co. Iowa, where she married Lenox Martin
Duckworth. She died here 22 February 1900. That is about all I know
Can anyone give me a clue as to who her parents or siblings were? I
don't know when they moved to Lucas Co. Iowa. The 1870 Lucas Co. IA
census lists Elizabeth and Lenox Martin Duckworth's family and a 15
yr. old "Nancy Davis" (b) Iowa was living in their home. No
relationship shown on census.
Does anyone know anything more about this Nancy Davis and how she
might have been related to Elizabeth (Davis) Duckworth? And
especially, can somone tell me who Elizabeth Davis' parents were.
She was dead before the wonderful 1925 IA State census, or that
information would be revealed.
Appreciate any help. I have extensive information about the
Duckworths, the Davis line is my brickwall.
> Lucinda Davis, b. Feb 17, 1827 VA m. Abel/Abram/Abraham Tuttle,
> b. Sep 12, 1812 NC. Might Lucinda be related to my John Davis,
> 1809 NC who m. #2 Sarah Threlkeld, b. 1822 IN, first wf was Sarah
> Jones, b. 1809 NC ?? John & Sarah settled in Lucas Co.
> >From my Notes:
> p. 238 Lucas Co., Iowa Cemtery book.
> Is the Abram Tuttle, Sept. 12, 1812 - Jan 12, 1887 one in the same as
> this Abraham ?? Abram is buried next to Lucinda, Feb. 17, 1827 - Feb.
> 15, 1884
> at Freedom Cemetery, Warren Twp., Lucas Co., Iowa.
> Was this Abram from an earlier marriage of his father's or is the
> birth date actually 1822 bringing it close to that of the next sibling
> ?? mbj
> Hmmm, the 1860 Census
> Shown as Abel Tuttle, age 46, Farmer $1200, $312, b NC
> Wf is Lucinda, age 35, Lewis, 15, etc, ch Sarah A., age 5 ...
> family fits. mbj
> Living next door to Malichi Lane, age 54 [b. abt 1806]
> Some info about John Davis ...
> Descendants of John Davis
> 23 John Davis b: Feb 15, 1809 in #1Guilford Co, North Carolina d:
> 06, 1886 in Russell, Lucas Co, IA @ 77y 4m 29d
> ... +Sarah Jones b: Jan 01, 1809 in Stokes Co, NC d: Sep 14, 1838 in
> Jonesville, Wayne Twp., Bartholomew Co, IN. m: Dec 09, 1830 in Stokes
> Co., NC ... 24 Austin R. Davis b: Nov 25, 1831 in Columbus,
> Bartholomew Co, IN d: Jan 31, 1896 in Prob. Lucas Co., IA
> ........ +Malinda Holeman b: Jun 06, 1841 d: Feb 22, 1911 in Prob.
> Lucas Co., IA m: Jan 06, 1861 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL ... 24
> Keziah Lucinda "Lucinda" Davis b: Sep 11, 1835 in Sandcreek Twp.,
> Bartholomew Co, IN d: Jun 24, 1900 in Russell, Lucas Co, IA
> ........ +David Holmes Rowland b: Jan 12, 1828 in IN d: Mar 24, 1900
> in IA m: Aug 12, 1855 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL ... 24 Leah
> Davis b: Mar 11, 1838 in Jonesville, Bartholomew Co, IN d: Jul 1838 in
> Jonesville, Wayne Twp., Bartholomew Co, IN.
> *2nd Wife of John Davis:
> ... +Sarah Threlkeld b: Dec 10, 1822 in Jackson, Wayne Co.,
> Indiana d: Aug 27, 1917 in near Russell, Lucas Co., IA, @ ag 94y 8m
> 17d m: May 06, 1842 in Jackson Co., Indiana ... 24 Isaac Newton
> Davis b: Mar 21, 1843 in Indiana or Roseville, Warren Co, IL d: May
> 04, 1927 ... 24 Laura Davis b: Bet. 1844 - 1850 in Roseville, Warren
> Co, IL ........ +R. A. Hazelquist b: Abt. 1851 ... 24 Nelson
> Davis b: Oct 19, 1850 in Roseville, Warren Co, IL d: Dec 04, 1889 in
> @ag 39y 1m 12d ... 24 Melvina Davis b: Nov 15, 1855 in Roseville,
> Warren Co, IL d: Apr 08, 1906 in Russell, Lucas Co., Iowa @ age 50y
> 4m 23d ........ +John Quincy Werts b: Jun 02, 1855 in Zanesville,
> Muskingum County, Ohio d: Apr 13, 1953 in Canton, Barron Co., WI m:
> Apr 02, 1879 in Russell, Lucas County, Iowa ... 24 Smith Davis b:
> 1858 in Chariton, Lucas Co, IA d: 1915 ........ +Ella _____ b:
> 1861 d: 1943 //
> Updates always most welcomed,
> Mary Beth in Wisconsin
Several years ago, Frank Myers was looking for any connections to the
Fluke line ... sounds like you might be? See excerpt from him:
" .... does anyone out there have any family connection
with Oliver Fluke (whose nephews Grover and Charles were in
business in Chariton for many years) or any recollection of ever
hearing anything about the Fire Baptized Holiness Association
or the camp meetings at Olmitz, which seem to have attracted
hundreds of people during the autumns and/or early winters of
1895-1900. If so, please contact me." Frank D. Myers
The connectoins may have already been made, so, hit delete, if so :)
Mary Beth in Wisconsin
For what it is worth
> Re; the derby offered on E-Bay. In all likelyhood G.C. Fluke was Grover
> Cleveland Fluke, 1885-1966-Husband of Nettie Tuttle Fluke ,1881-1966.
> were the parents of Dorotha Fluke Many, 1910-2003, whom we miss very much.
> Bill Tuttle, Montgomery, MN
For what it is worth
Re; the derby offered on E-Bay. In all likelyhood G.C. Fluke was Grover
Cleveland Fluke, 1885-1966-Husband of Nettie Tuttle Fluke ,1881-1966. They
were the parents of Dorotha Fluke Many, 1910-2003, whom we miss very much.
Bill Tuttle, Montgomery, MN
Davenport Daily Republican
Jan 2, 1903
GENERAL NEWS OF IOWA
The Teapot Exploded.
Chariton, Jan. 1 - Mrs. J.F. Hendrickson, a widow, who resides on a
farm near the junction, nothwest of town, met with
a most painful accident. She was preparing some sassafras tea for the noon
meal in a syrup tricket on which the lid fits air
tight. She attempted to remove the lid with her hand, but had to procure a
knife which she inserted under the lid, prying it
up, when the tricket exploded, striking her in the face, scalding her eyes
and face so badly that she will lose the sight of
one eye entirely. The other one is badly injured and fears are entertained
that she will lose it. Dr. T.P. Stanton was
called as soon as the accident occurred and rendered the necessary medical
assistance, so at this time she is getting along
nicely, although her wounds are quite painful. It is to be hoped that it
will not prove as serious as thought, for she and
her little daughter live alone and make their living off the small farm.
Posted at this site with Cathy's permission.
Cathy Joynt Labath
Iowa Old Press