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Here's the one I suggested to Pat
Then Pat suggested this one -
I found her's to be an interesting site that had useful stuff to use!
> Can you tell me again the site that you went into, to check on calculating
> the birth dates. I guess I accidently deleted it and can't retrieve it.
> Thanks from the heart.
Great site! Thanks, I had fun roaming all over checking things out.
I copied some calendars from years gone by to help me with old diaries etc.
which will be helpful.
> Clayton and Lylia.
> Thanks Clayton for the explanation. Message received. Mathematicians are
> not responsible for this one but you still show they are among my favorite
> people. It is always good to know when these quick fix rules of thumb can
> be trusted. I tried out some other dates and found they were wrong also.
> Lylia's calculator site appears to work better and will be bookmarking
> that. There is also a ten thousand year calendar at
> http://www.calendarhome.com. to use as a doublecheck.
Clayton and Lylia.
Thanks Clayton for the explanation. Message received. Mathematicians are
not responsible for this one but you still show they are among my favorite
people. It is always good to know when these quick fix rules of thumb can
be trusted. I tried out some other dates and found they were wrong also.
Lylia's calculator site appears to work better and will be bookmarking
that. There is also a ten thousand year calendar at
http://www.calendarhome.com. to use as a doublecheck.
My brother passed this website on to me. Is this legit? Has anyone
sent $ and gotten good info. back? Is the same info. available
West Point, NE
I am a Mathematician and I agree that we are wonderful! :-)
However, people should be aware that the 'Rule of 8870' is an approximation
only. It assumes that every month is 30 days long.
Note that the date is a composite of year, month, and day. These are in
different units. '8870' is actually two numbers ('88' and '70') which are
used to convert units as part of the 'borrowing' from the next higher number
that is used in the subtraction process. [e.g. if subtracting 9 from 26, one
borrows a '1' from the next higher digit, converts it to '10', and adds it
to the original digit (6) before subtracting the 9]. '88' is used to
convert one year to 12 months (88 plus 12 equals 100 (or 1 year and 00
months in the composite number)) and '70' is used to convert one month to 30
days (70 plus 30 equals 100).
There are 3 problems with the Rule of 8870:
1. It assumes that all months are 30 days in length.
2. It does not account for changes in the calendar system.
3. It fails when subtraction 'borrowing' is not required. In these cases,
subtraction of the '88' or the '70' should not be done and, if done, would
give a rather unusual date.
An example of item 3: Using the same original date of 6 May 1889, assume
the person was 71 yrs 1 month and 1 day old. It should be obvious that the
person was born 5 April 1818. However the Rule of 8870 would result in
(18890506 -710101 -8870)a date of 35th day of the 15th month of 1817.
Please don't credit us Mathematicians with such an incomplete algorithm.
- Clay Nenno
>From: "R. Sheldon" <rpshel(a)frontiernet.net>
>Subject: [IABENTON-L] Calculating dates of birth
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 02:39:21 -0600
>Rule of 8870.
>For example: If the person died on May 6, 1889 and was 71yrs 7 mos and 9
>Write out the year month and date of death in digits 18890506
>Subtract the age by writing year, month and day 710709
>Subtotal would be
> From subtotal subtract 8870
> Total would be
>Subject was born in 1817 Sep 27
>Aren't mathematicians wonderful?? :) I am not one so don't ask me how it
>works but it seems to. .
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It is amazing and I, for one, have used it for years. Since I got on the
internet, I have
also came across a site that has a calculator that does all of it for us.
This one allows for leap years, which is the only draw back to the "8870"
does not, but a person could probably figure that on their own.
This information came through to me on another list I belong to and thought
some of you might like the information. It concerns an easy way to
calculate a birthdate when all you have is a death date and age.
Rule of 8870.
For example: If the person died on May 6, 1889 and was 71yrs 7 mos and 9
Write out the year month and date of death in digits 18890506
Subtract the age by writing year, month and day 710709
Subtotal would be
From subtotal subtract 8870
Total would be
Subject was born in 1817 Sep 27
Aren't mathematicians wonderful?? :) I am not one so don't ask me how it
works but it seems to. .
I have for a short time the 1850 & 1860 Benton Co. census at home. I'll be happy to do some lookup's if anyone is interested if you give me the township at least and it would help the page #. However, I don't have the time to do the lookup's without at least the township name.
E-mail me privately with your names.
I am searching for information on the King family of Benton County, IA.
Stephen King was married three times and had a total of eighteen children. I
believe he had a brother named Austin.
1st wife: unknown
2nd wife: Ellen
3rd wife: Martha Lucas
The children living at home in the 1860 Benton Co. census:
Stephen and Martha were married in 1847 in Boone County, IN. They were still
living there at the time of the 1850 census.
Amanda King married Elias Bishop in 1862. The Bishop family had also lived
Boone County, but in 1860 Elias was living in Benton County.
I have the names of all of the children if someone has a connection to this
Kelly - can you tell me where to find the 1878 Benton Co. biographies? My
Tatman/Greenlee/Freeman families were and are from Belle Plaine. As a
matter of information, I have an original copy of the 1897 Belle Plaine
Biographical Directory and have checked the Hoeck name just in case.
Unfortunately, no Hoecks listed in it.
Sally in Albuquerque
--On Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 11:49 AM +0000 Kellyandron(a)aol.com wrote:
> In the 1878 Benton County Biographies, the following references were made
> of listees in Southern Benton County:
> Hoeck, Frederick, far.; P.O. Luzerne
> Hoeck, William, far.: P.O. Luzerne
> Hoeck, H., far., S. 35; P.O. Vinton
> Hoeck, A., far., S. 9; P.O. Blairstown
> Hoeck, Paul.,far., P.O. Robin.
> Is there any information available anywhere on these people. Dates,
> origin, family, just anything!
> Thank you
In the 1878 Benton County Biographies, the following references were made of
listees in Southern Benton County:
Hoeck, Frederick, far.; P.O. Luzerne
Hoeck, William, far.: P.O. Luzerne
Hoeck, H., far., S. 35; P.O. Vinton
Hoeck, A., far., S. 9; P.O. Blairstown
Hoeck, Paul.,far., P.O. Robin.
Is there any information available anywhere on these people. Dates, origin,
family, just anything!