Hi Graham
I've had a look for these families, mainly on Ancestry.
Percy Anderson ROGERS (1876-1907) was the son of John ROGERS (c1840-) and
his wife Margaret Ellen (c1844-). According to census returns, John was born
in Buttington, Montgomeryshire, and Percy was born in Bersham, Denbighshire.
Florence Mary PERKINS (1876-) was the daughter of Edwin PERKINS (c1842-) and
his wife Jane Eliza C (c1843-). According to census returns, Florence was
born in Welshpool, Montgomeryshire. Edwin was born in Hereford,
Herefordshire. His wife Jane was a British Subject, born in France.
According to a public member tree on ancestry, she was Jane Eliza Clementine
BECKINGHAM.
Robert ROGERS (c1850-) was the son of William ROGERS (c1808-) and his wife
Martha (c1818-). According to census returns, Robert and his father were
both born in Brymbo, Denbighshire. Margaret was born in Hope, Flintshire. I
can't see any connection between the families of Robert ROGERS and Percy
Anderson ROGERS.
In 1911 there is an 8 year old Frank Anderson ROGERS in the household of
Edwin PERKINS, father of Florence Mary PERKINS/ROGERS. Frank's age is
transcribed as 51 - I have to admit that the 8 is written in such a way that
it does look like 51. It isn't the only transcription error for this
household on Ancestry. The household is added to the previous entry,
suggesting that the Head is a William OWENSH, at 15 Cuncliffe St, Wrexham.
Edwin PERKINS, at 16 Cuncliffe St, is described as Father instead of Head.
Frank is described as the grandson of the Head. Frank's place of birth is
given as Wrexham (Esclusham, according to the transcription).
According to Freebmd, the births of both Linda Rosella ROGERS and Frank
Anderson ROGERS were registered in the Jul-Sep qtr of 1902 in the Wrexham
district, but on different pages. I found the death of Frank Anderson ROGERS
on Ancestry, registered in 1989. His date of birth is given as 1st July
1902. The death entry for Linda Rosella ROBBINS, in 1972, gives her date of
birth as 4th June 1902.
A public member tree on Ancestry, one of two named 'Parry Family Tree', has
a Linda ROGERS born in 1902. Her spouse is given as Luther ROBBINS. Linda's
mother is shown as Letitia Catherine ROGERS (1879-1947). No father is named.
Letitia is a daughter of Robert ROGERS and his wife Martha. This would
explain why Linda was in their household in 1911. This tree does seem to be
reliable, showing dates which have probably come from certificates or
written family evidence. There are also photos of some family members - not
Linda or Letitia.
The most likely entry for Luther George ROBBINS in 1911 is that of George,
the 9 year old son of Frederick and Sarah ROBBINS living at 11 James St,
Mountain Ash, Glamorgan. Freebmd doesn't show a Births entry for a child
with the first name of George, surname of ROBINS or ROBBINS, between 1895
and 1905 in the Pontypridd district. Frederick Charles ROBBINS married Sarah
Elizabeth HUNTLEY in Pontypridd in 1890 (Freebmd). Sarah was almost
certainly the daughter of Charles HUNTLEY and his wife Caroline ROBINS. One
of their sons was named Luther. It could be worth checking these families.
Are you sure that Linda Rosella ROGERS was the daughter of Percy Anderson
ROGERS and Florence Mary PERKINS? Are you mainly researching the ROBBINS
family or the ROGERS family? I can send you reference numbers for any of the
above, off-list, if you'd like them. Sorry if I've added to your conundrum!!
Regards
Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Price
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:49 AM
To: glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [GLA] ROBBINS & ROGERS, Pontypridd/Fylde, Lancs.
Hi all
I have a little conundrum.... don't we all? I have one Linda Rosella
Rogers, born Wrexham district 1902, Denbighshire, Sep Qtr, 11b 265,
daughter of Percy Anderson Rogers & Florence Mary Perkins of 44
Rhossdu Rd, Wrexham, and the only Linda Rogers shown in civil
registration to have been born between 1900-1904 (except for one
Linda Sarah Rogers born Suffolk 1902).
Okay, so now I find a marriage (and again the only marriage - and no
early deaths prior) of one Linda Rosella Rogers to Luther G (George)
Robbins, Pontypridd district Sep Qtr 1922, 11a 1471. At this stage I
am being cautious as marriage certificates are expensive. The 1911
census on FMP shows only one Linda Rogers who fits, living
Glamorganshire, Pontypridd, sub-district Llanwanno, 207 Penrhiwceiber
Road, with head of family Robert Rogers, coal miner hewer 61 & Martha
Rogers 62. Linda is not shown to have any relationship with the
above-mentioned, but is born 1902 Denbighshire, Brymbo (near
Wrexham). This certainly fits, but what she is doing in
Glamorganshire is anyone's guess.
The deaths of Linda Rosella Robbins (nee Rogers) and Luther George
Robbins are found in the Fylde district of Lancashire 1972 and 1970
with correct ages re. birth dates. There are three possible children
to this couple (taken from registration) Robert E, Pontypridd 1924;
Dilys, Pontypridd 1929 and Gwyneth 1935, Pontypridd.
I cannot locate Luther George Robbins on the 1911 census (FMP) but
perhaps he is mistranscribed and may well be on
Ancestry.com.
I have a strong feeling about this Linda Rosella Rogers. Does anyone
think I am on the right track?
Robert Rogers and his wife Martha were living at Brymbo (nr. Wrexham)
in the 1901 census and though it would be stretching the imagination
way out of beam, I have a Martha (maiden name also Rogers, so far not
found a marriage) born same year as this Martha, who could be great
aunt to Linda Rosella. Hmmm, interesting. May be just a coincidence.
Any thoughts or help graciously accepted.
Cheers
Graham
Melbourne
Oz