Hi Janice
Just to add to what Jeff has said (all entirely correct) re your alias
question: again it depends what date you're talking about but some
circumstsances might be -
a) patronymic - John James alias John Gilbert might be the son of James
X (who might have been known as James Gilbert, but who knows?), but who
had chosen Gilbert as a surname for whatever reason
b) illegitimacy - his mother was surnamed James (or Gilbert) but it was
generally known that his father was Gilbert (or James)
c) remarriage - his father was surnamed James but his mother was
remarried to Gilbert and John took his surname
Hope this helps
Liz
On 28/11/2018 22:29, Jeff Coleman wrote:
> Hi Janice
> It depends what date you are looking at records for. Before around 1800 it
> was quite common to have baptisms, marriages and burials in one book.
>
> When the scanning team came to one of the archives buildings in Wales they
> set up their scanner and scanned the parish registers held there
> sequentially. I think they were supposed to put a special frame in when they
> started on a new parish, maybe each time they started a new book, but this
> does not seem to have occurred universally. In some cases this has led
> Findmypast to label scans incorrectly. In Monmouthshire a number of parishes
> are mis-labelled, and also in West Glamorgan, where a number of parish
> registers from St Mary's, Swansea's parish church, were labelled as being
> from Swansea St Peter's, even though they date from many decades before St
> Peter's was built.
>
> There is often internal evidence about what parish the page refers to,
> sometimes not on every page. I haven't used Findmypast in the way you
> describe for some while, but would suggest it is better to move backward or
> forward through the series of scans a few pages at a time, as certainly in
> some Monmouthshire scan series several parishes used to appear in the same
> series.
>
> Remember that most of the parish records in Glamorgan, Monmouthshire and
> Carmarthenshire have also been indexed quite separately by local Family
> History Societies, and those indexed records are often available via
> Findmypast, Familysearch or from the societies themselves. Familysearch also
> contains records indexed for the IGI, often before the local family history
> societies, and sometimes with different understanding of handwriting. It is
> rare to find that local family history societies ( or indeed Familysearch
> indexing) attribute entries to the wrong parishes.
>
> If you have doubts about what parish a particular record belongs to, share
> it with the list and someone will check.
>
> I will be in West Glamorgan archives tomorrow (Thursday), weather
> permitting, and can do one or two quick checks.
>
> Remember that the GENUKI pages on Glamorgan and adjoining pages have a
> wealth of information about parishes, their history and geography.
>
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Parishes
>
> Remember also that when Family History Societies have indexed records for a
> particular parish, the indexes are available alphabetically, so all the
> entries for one surname are together. There are also ways of using the
> Findmypast search facility, concentrating on Glamorgan records and using the
> parish name as a keyword, to produce lists for one surname. You don't have
> to re-invent the wheel by going through images one by one.
>
> Of course you should not assume that families always stayed in the same
> parish. Movement took place, and in some cases particular patterns of
> movement are well understood from the dates that particular industries
> developed, flourished and diminished.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janice Bartus <jbveggie(a)comcast.net>
> Sent: 28 November 2018 21:26
> To: GLAMORGAN Mailing List <GLAMORGAN(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [GLA] Parish Records & other questions
>
> Listers,
>
> I have a question regarding how the Parish Records were scanned, if anyone
> knows or should I direct question to Find My Past. I look at transcription
> and can click to see original record and it appears on screen. If I click
> back to page "one" of the parish record, am I still in the same Parish?
Or
> were Records scanned one after another? Sometimes it appears the years are
> scrambled up and the recorded parish pages go from marriages to births back
> to marriages and burials. My objectives is to find as many JAMES' as
> possible from that one transcription in that parish by paging backward to
> the "first" page of that parish record. Hope that makes sense.
>
> Secondly, when would a man use an alias in a parish record? For example:
> John JAMES alias John GILBERT. Should I consider him a JAMES? Is he really
> John JAMES GILBERT?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> Janice JAMES Bartus
>
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