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Due to unforseen circumstances Glamorgan FHS will not be attending the Bracknell Family History Fair on Sunday (31st January). We apologise to anyone who was expecting to have seen us there.
However, the good news is that we will be attending the Who Do You Think You Are? Live event for the whole 3 days 26th-28th February at Olympia. We will be onTables 42 & 52-54 (which are together in spite of the numbering system). Please come along and make yourself known and we can then put faces to the names of the many Glam Listers.
Rosemary Smith
Retrospectives: Old Roundhouse, Abercrâf, BRE; Llanwinio Parish, CMN
Dear Listers,
This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are:
1. An exploration of an old stone Roundhouse near Abercrâf in the Upper
Swansea Valley, county of Breconshire (ten pictures).
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in October 2002.
2. The parish of Llanwinio in the county of Carmarthenshire (seventeen
pictures).
This two-page feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in May 2002.
As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for one week.
'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at
www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm
After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and
make your own Retrospective requests.
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
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Have you identified which Mary JENKINS she was on the 1851 census? Was she
the house servant in Brynmawr, Llanelly parish, age 20, born 'Breconshire'
or the farmer's daughter with father Thomas, a small farmer, at
Blaenydyffryn in Vaynor parish, age 18 born 'Llanthetty' [Llanddeti, modern
maps show Llandetty] ?
[It is possible that the latter married Lewis MEREDITH in Vaynor parish
church on 29 Sep 1860, age 27.]
Where did your Mary JENKINS marry, what was the occupation of her father,
and did she have a recognisable address such as a farm name at the date of
marriage?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shanna Jones" <shannasjones(a)msn.com>
To: <glamorgan-l(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:01 PM
Subject: [GLA] JENKINS genealogy
> Each day I have read and been thoroughly impressed with the resources
> freely
> given on John Jones JENKINS. I have to admit, it made me kind of jealous
> because I too have a JENKINS dead end line. Mary JENKINS is the last
> direct
> line ancestor that I found to complete my eight generation pedigree chart.
> She is my 3rd great grandmother. I have found her in a few places such
> as:
>
> Mary Jenkins is age 25 on marriage certificate 4 Dec 1852 = 1827. She
> married Thomas Griffiths and it says her father is Thomas too.
>
> Mary Griffiths is 30, born Llanelly, on the 1861 British Census at
> Llangattock = 1831.
>
> Mary Griffiths is 37, born Llanfalle, on the 1871 British Census at
> Llansamlet= 1834.
>
> Mary Griffiths is widowed, age 48, Llanfalla, on the 1881 British Census
> at
> Llansamlet, Glamorgan = 1833. I don't know what happed to Thomas.
>
> RESEARCH: No entry was found for the baptism of Mary Jenkins at
> Llandyfalle
> parish register between 1820 and 1840.
>
>
>
> Anyway, since you all are so good at this, if you have any ideas PLEASE
> let
> me know.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Shanna Jones
Hi Shanna
You don't say where she got married. Could be a link there or, which is what I've found useful is by using the marriage witnesses especially if they have odd names.
Happy hunting!
Jane
GFHS 4671
---- Shanna Jones <shannasjones(a)msn.com> wrote:
> Each day I have read and been thoroughly impressed with the resources freely
> given on John Jones JENKINS. I have to admit, it made me kind of jealous
> because I too have a JENKINS dead end line. Mary JENKINS is the last direct
> line ancestor that I found to complete my eight generation pedigree chart.
> She is my 3rd great grandmother. I have found her in a few places such as:
>
> Mary Jenkins is age 25 on marriage certificate 4 Dec 1852 = 1827. She
> married Thomas Griffiths and it says her father is Thomas too.
>
> Mary Griffiths is 30, born Llanelly, on the 1861 British Census at
> Llangattock = 1831.
>
> Mary Griffiths is 37, born Llanfalle, on the 1871 British Census at
> Llansamlet= 1834.
>
> Mary Griffiths is widowed, age 48, Llanfalla, on the 1881 British Census at
> Llansamlet, Glamorgan = 1833. I don't know what happed to Thomas.
>
> RESEARCH: No entry was found for the baptism of Mary Jenkins at Llandyfalle
> parish register between 1820 and 1840.
>
>
>
> Anyway, since you all are so good at this, if you have any ideas PLEASE let
> me know.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Shanna Jones
>
>
>
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Hi Richard
Thank you for showing me where The Grange used to be. I was able to have a
look on Google Maps, but the only thing I could see was a lot of army
vehicles. I don't think the house is there any more.
Thanks again.
Wendy
>
> The Grange, although in Oystermouth parish, is actually in the West Cross
> area of Swansea. It is now the location of a territorial army base (I
> seem to recall reading that it was handed over to the military during
> World War II) and can be found on Google maps just off Mumbles Road, to
> the south of Lilliput Lane. (Postcode SA3 5AQ will locate it)
Hello list,
Wonder who can help me with the following.
I am looking for the death/burial record of David John Roberts, born
15-11-1873 at Felinfoel, Llanelli. Unmarried. He emigrated to S-Africa in
1911.
I am told that he has came back to Cardiff after the death of his brother
and possibly stayed in Cardiff for the end of his life.
His sister in law, Annie Roberts nee Morris could also have returned to
Cardiff after the death of her husband. They may have lived there together.
How can I find more on them?
Elwyn-netherlands.
Ken,
Take a look at the second map on this page :
http://webapps.rhondda-cynon-taff.gov.uk/heritagetrail/taff/hopkinstown/h...
I am not sure but I suggest that the pub was the one you can see to the left
of the green number '1'
as far as I can recall, there is nothing there now except for a children's
park (but I may have the slightly wrong location of that)
Unless names have changed, Rhondda Road is actually the lower end of
Hopkinstown leading into Pontypridd. This area is the other side of
Hopkinstown leading in to Trehafod aka 'Hafod'
----- Original Message -----
From: "ken barry" <kbarry1(a)sky.com>
To: "Glamorgan List" <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GLA] Glan Rhondda
> Is anyone familiar with Rhondda Road (a.k.a. Gyfeillon Road) in
> Hafodrinog?
>
> The Glan Rhondda Inn figures in my cousin's MORGAN family history, on
> several occasions. The LEWIS family resided next door in 1861, for
> instance.
>
> Is it still extant? Does it have any significant or interesting history?
>
>
>
> Also, I have a mind to acquire a copy of GLANFFWRD'S HISTORY OF LLANWONNO,
> 1843-90 by Rev. W. Thomas. (It gained a mention just recently.) There
> are none to be had on Amazon, at this moment in time.
>
> Ken Barry.
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Been having problems sending messages, hopefully ok this time
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: J GRIFFITHS <griffiths780(a)btinternet.com>
To: glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com; dyfed(a)rootsweb.com
Cc: monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, 29 January, 2010 17:56:07
Subject: News Items APRIL 1st to JUNE 30th 1926 Number Two-Hundred fiftyseven.
Western Mail Saturday May 29th 1926.
Councillor Walter SPURRELL, J.P., preseided over a meeting held at Carmarthen, under the auspices of the Independent Order of Rechabites, when the Rev. James BARR, a Scottish M.P., gave an address on temperance.
Rev. E.U. THOMAS (Tabernacle) proposed a vote of thanks and said it would be a good thing if all the members of the town council and of the magisterial bench were life-long members.
Mr. G.F. FORSDIKE, J.P., Cardiff, has left for Aix-les-Bains, where he will remain for about a month for treatment for a troublesome leg.
The marriage will take place at Savoy Chapel Royal, London, on Wednesday next of Mr. E. Stanley EVANS,elder son of Mr. John EVANS, J.P., and Mrs. EVANS, of Beechwood, Merthyr, to Miss Dora DOWDESWELL, only daughter of Mr. Ralph DOWDESWELL and the late Mrs. DOWDESWELL, of Belvedere, Whitchurch.
At Keynsham Police-court on Friday Rhys THOMAS 18, Cilfynydd, Pontypridd and Arthur SMITH, 17, Graig, Pontypridd, miners were each sentenced to three months' hard labour for stealing a Morris-Oxford car, valued at £200, accessories, a fishing rod, and Kodak camera, belonging to Dr. Charles HARRISON, of Keynsham.
Edward NEAGLE, Hugh ROBINSON, Michael BARON, and Edward O'NEILL were charged at Barry on Friday with breaking and entering a lock-up grain warehouse, owned by Mr. George ANDREWS, of Maesycwym-street, Barry, and stealing grain, valued at £2.5s. Police-constables WALLER and MARSH caught the men as they were escaping from the premises carrying bags of maize.
NEAGLE and ROBINSON were each fined £1. and BARON and O'NEILL placed on probation for six months.
Principal J.H. DAVIES, Aberystwyth, has received a letter from Queen Mary's private secretary, stating how sorry both the King and the Queen were to hear of the death of their old and trusted friend Sir John WILLIAMS.
Mr. Jenkin REES has died at his residence, 78, Ryder-street, Cardiff, at the age of 60. Son of the late Mr. and Mrs. William REES, of Merthyr, he was an accountant at the Cardiff office of the Mountjoy (Bute) Estate, in whose service he had been for 32 years. He leaves a widow and one daughter. The funeral will take place on Monday.
The funeral took place at Mountain Ash of Mrs. C.J. MASTERS, Glenbrook, Miskin, who met her death last week-end at Torquay. The Rev. J. Llewellyn DAVIES, B.A., vicar of St.. John's, Miskin; the Rev. D.E. ROBERTS, M.A., vicar of Trevithin, and the Rev. D.J. WILLS, M.A., vicar of Hirwain, officiated. The chief mourners were Mr. and Mrs.T.J. LEWIS (son-in-law and daughter), the Misses Alice and Gladys MASTERS (daughters), Mr. and Mrs. E. THOMAS (brother-in-law and sister), Mr. and Mrs. D.L. DAVIES, Mr. and Mrs. J.E. DAVIES, and Mr. and Mrs. Ifor DAVIES (brothers and sisters-in-law).
Miss Hilda E. GOUGH, daughter of Mr. J.H. GOUGH, Colchester-avenue, Penylan, Cardiff, was successful in the April examinations of the Royal Academy of Music, securing the L.R.A.M. Miss GOUGH was prepared by Cuthbert WHITEMORE, F.R.A.M., Montague-place, London, W.1
James GIBBS 19, collier, Brithidir, was at Bargoed on Friday charged with having driven a motor-car negligently on May 8 at Tiryberth. He pleaded "not guilty" and was defended by Mr. Tom PHILLIPS.
Alfred SWITHIN said he and three other men were talking on the road when something knocked him down from behind and he remembered nothing more for three or four hours. He was injured in the head, shoulder and face.
Defendant said he was blinded by the lights of an oncoming car, and he did not see the men until he was a yard away, and they scattered, making it impossible for him to avoid the four.
A fine of £5 was imposed, the money being paid to SWITHIN as compensation.
Sir David William EVANS, of 199, Newport-road, Cardiff, and formerly of St. Mary's chambers, Cardiff, solicitor, died on March 17, leaving property of the value of £4,160, with net personalty nil. The will, dated September 3, 1896, is proved by Dame Clara Gertrude EVANS, the widow, to whom everything is left absolutely.
John Patrick.
Is anyone familiar with Rhondda Road (a.k.a. Gyfeillon Road) in Hafodrinog?
The Glan Rhondda Inn figures in my cousin's MORGAN family history, on several occasions. The LEWIS family resided next door in 1861, for instance.
Is it still extant? Does it have any significant or interesting history?
Also, I have a mind to acquire a copy of GLANFFWRD'S HISTORY OF LLANWONNO, 1843-90 by Rev. W. Thomas. (It gained a mention just recently.) There are none to be had on Amazon, at this moment in time.
Ken Barry.
A "tip of the hat" to the Glamorgan-L members who responded to my recent
inquiry. The info I got relieves that particular Joseph Edwards of the onus
of being my g-grandfather, and maybe his soul rests easier now. I do
appreciate the effort the responders made and I "Thank You" for your assistance.
God Bless,
Bob Edwards
Arizona, USA
Hello Mary
According to kchancock1 who has a family tree, your Mary Ann was born in Cardiff:
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/4460412/family?fpid=-1600371599
Gareth
--- On Fri, 29/1/10, Mary Mizzi <mmizzi(a)dodo.com.au> wrote:
Firstly, thankyou to all who replied to my request. I will try everyone of your suggestions.
Jeff you asked for more info. as shown on the marriage cetificate.
10th November, 1856.
Thomas HOOLEY; 21 years; bachelor; labourer; Croft St Swansea; Father was Martin Hooley (deceased) a Mason by trade.
Mary Ann FITZGERALD; 21years; spinster; High Street, Swansea. Father was Timothy FITZGERALD, who was shown as a labourer.
The priest was John CLARKE
Witnesses Peter McSHANE and Bridget HUGHES.
George BAKER HAYNES was the Registrar.
Now I have found all the Censuses of Wales where Thomas and Mary Ann and their families were living and her place of birth was shown as Ireland in all. Thomas died in 1893 in Cardiff and Mary Ann 1908 also Cardiff.
Any clues from this?
Kind regards,
Mary
I tried incoming UK passengers and didn't get him. I got four David
Roberts but all from New York and none born near 1873
Eliz
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7(a)chello.nl> wrote:
> Hello list,
>
>
>
> Wonder who can help me with the following.
>
>
>
> I am looking for the death/burial record of David John Roberts, born
> 15-11-1873 at Felinfoel, Llanelli. Unmarried. He emigrated to S-Africa in
> 1911.
>
> I am told that he has came back to Cardiff after the death of his brother
> and possibly stayed in Cardiff for the end of his life.
>
> His sister in law, Annie Roberts nee Morris could also have returned to
> Cardiff after the death of her husband. They may have lived there together.
>
> How can I find more on them?
>
>
>
> Elwyn-netherlands.
>
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>
> -
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Firstly, thankyou to all who replied to my request. I will try everyone of
your suggestions.
Jeff you asked for more info. as shown on the marriage cetificate.
10th November, 1856.
Thomas HOOLEY; 21 years; bachelor; labourer; Croft St Swansea; Father was
Martin Hooley (deceased) a Mason by trade.
Mary Ann FITZGERALD; 21years; spinster; High Street, Swansea. Father was
Timothy FITZGERALD, who was shown as a labourer.
The priest was John CLARKE
Witnesses Peter McSHANE and Bridget HUGHES.
George BAKER HAYNES was the Registrar.
Now I have found all the Censuses of Wales where Thomas and Mary Ann and
their families were living and her place of birth was shown as Ireland in
all. Thomas died in 1893 in Cardiff and Mary Ann 1908 also Cardiff.
Any clues from this?
Kind regards,
Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:35 AM
Subject: [GLA] Fw: Info on marriage certificates in Wales.
> meant for the list
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman(a)ntlworld.com>
> To: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard(a)tiscali.co.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [GLA] Info on marriage certificates in Wales.
>
>
>>I agree this would be St. David's Church in Rutland Street, as it then
>>was.
>>Can you give the date and who the officiating priest was? Some of the
>>Catholic priests in Swansea in the 19th century were significant local
>>characters, as may be found from the 'Cambrian'. Giving the details of
>>the
>>couple who married, and witnesses, may also lead to interesting
>>information.
>>
>> Jeff
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard(a)tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GLA] Info on marriage certificates in Wales.
>>
>>
>>> Would this be St David's Catholic Priory, in Rutland Place? Heavily
>>> bombed
>>> during the war, now surrounded by the Quadrant shopping centre, and
>>> adjacent
>>> bus station.
>>>
>>> Try the Diocesan Office at http://www.dioceseofmenevia.org/index.htm for
>>> info.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: glamorgan-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
>>> [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Mary Mizzi
>>> I have just checked the marriage certificate of my g/grandparents and it
>>> seems that the name of the church is not mentioned. It just states Roman
>>> Catholic Chapel, and something that looks like Nullond St, Swansea.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gareth Morgan" <morgangareth36(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>>> You could try contacting the Church where your relative was married.
>>> They
>>> do
>>>
>>> sometimes hold additional information. Or even post the details on this
>>> board in the hope that someone on it can help you further.
>>>
>
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There is a 28 year old Joseph Rees Jenkins, Carpenter in Torquay in
1881, though his birthplace is given as Torquay:
Dwelling 5 Jenkins Tents Temperance St
Census Place Tormoham, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341522
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2167 / 141
Page Number 54
Dai
Jeff Coleman wrote:
> Torbay is South Devon, the area around Torquay a seaside resort which was
> fairly upmarket in late 19th century.
> http://www.torbay.gov.uk/libtorquay.pdf applies
>
> I suspect the Towers may have been a hotel or large house. Almost any search
> brings up the Fawlty Towers TV comedy series which was filmed in the area.
>
> http://www.towerhouseschool.co.uk/ shows a private school with a building
> that looks like a 19th-century mansion or possibly hotel with postcode TQ4
> 5EW. However the old-maps view of this post code doesn't show anything
> interesting, so this may be a false lead.
>
> His death was registered as
> Jenkins Joseph Rees 28 Newton A. 5b 119
>
> So far he has not been located in 1871 or 1881 census.
>
> It is quite possible that the death of the only son of an MP would have been
> reported in national newspapers so if anyone has a subscription via a
> library to the Western Mail, Carmarthen Journal, the Times or a local Devon
> newspaper there may be more details.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wendy Lindsay" <oziewoo(a)bigpond.net.au>
> To: "edward" <LISSYMAY(a)lousvet.freeserve.co.uk>; <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [GLA] John JONES JENKINS
>
>
>
>> Lynne
>>
>> Can you tell me the whereabouts of "Towers Torbay" please. Trying to track
>> down Josiah in 1871 and 1881 census.
>>
>> Cheers Wendy
>>
>>
>>> At the Towers Torbay, on the 23rd December 1882,
>>> J.JENKINS aged 28yrs, only son of M.P. John JONES JENKINS,The Grange
>>> Swansea. It is dated 29th December1882.
>>>
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>>
>> -
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>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and
>> http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html
>>
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Jeff and all,
The death was announced in The Times of Friday 29 Dec 1882 (Page 1 Col E):
On the 21st inst, at The Towers, Torquay, J.R. JENKINS, aged 28 years,
only son of Sir John J. Jenkins, M.P., The Grange, Swansea.
I have a pdf file of the page if anyone wants it.
I could not find an obituary in December 82 or January 83.
Dai
Jeff Coleman wrote:
> Torbay is South Devon, the area around Torquay a seaside resort which was
> fairly upmarket in late 19th century.
> http://www.torbay.gov.uk/libtorquay.pdf applies
>
> I suspect the Towers may have been a hotel or large house. Almost any search
> brings up the Fawlty Towers TV comedy series which was filmed in the area.
>
> http://www.towerhouseschool.co.uk/ shows a private school with a building
> that looks like a 19th-century mansion or possibly hotel with postcode TQ4
> 5EW. However the old-maps view of this post code doesn't show anything
> interesting, so this may be a false lead.
>
> His death was registered as
> Jenkins Joseph Rees 28 Newton A. 5b 119
>
> So far he has not been located in 1871 or 1881 census.
>
> It is quite possible that the death of the only son of an MP would have been
> reported in national newspapers so if anyone has a subscription via a
> library to the Western Mail, Carmarthen Journal, the Times or a local Devon
> newspaper there may be more details.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wendy Lindsay" <oziewoo(a)bigpond.net.au>
> To: "edward" <LISSYMAY(a)lousvet.freeserve.co.uk>; <glamorgan(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [GLA] John JONES JENKINS
>
>
>
>> Lynne
>>
>> Can you tell me the whereabouts of "Towers Torbay" please. Trying to track
>> down Josiah in 1871 and 1881 census.
>>
>> Cheers Wendy
>>
>>
>>> At the Towers Torbay, on the 23rd December 1882,
>>> J.JENKINS aged 28yrs, only son of M.P. John JONES JENKINS,The Grange
>>> Swansea. It is dated 29th December1882.
>>>
>> --
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Torbay is South Devon, the area around Torquay a seaside resort which was
fairly upmarket in late 19th century.
http://www.torbay.gov.uk/libtorquay.pdf applies
I suspect the Towers may have been a hotel or large house. Almost any search
brings up the Fawlty Towers TV comedy series which was filmed in the area.
http://www.towerhouseschool.co.uk/ shows a private school with a building
that looks like a 19th-century mansion or possibly hotel with postcode TQ4
5EW. However the old-maps view of this post code doesn't show anything
interesting, so this may be a false lead.
His death was registered as
Jenkins Joseph Rees 28 Newton A. 5b 119
So far he has not been located in 1871 or 1881 census.
It is quite possible that the death of the only son of an MP would have been
reported in national newspapers so if anyone has a subscription via a
library to the Western Mail, Carmarthen Journal, the Times or a local Devon
newspaper there may be more details.
Jeff
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Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [GLA] John JONES JENKINS
> Lynne
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> Can you tell me the whereabouts of "Towers Torbay" please. Trying to track
> down Josiah in 1871 and 1881 census.
>
> Cheers Wendy
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>> At the Towers Torbay, on the 23rd December 1882,
>> J.JENKINS aged 28yrs, only son of M.P. John JONES JENKINS,The Grange
>> Swansea. It is dated 29th December1882.
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Wendy,
Torbay is the area around Torquay, Devon.
Dai
Wendy Lindsay wrote:
> Lynne
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> Can you tell me the whereabouts of "Towers Torbay" please. Trying to track
> down Josiah in 1871 and 1881 census.
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> Cheers Wendy
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>> At the Towers Torbay, on the 23rd December 1882,
>> J.JENKINS aged 28yrs, only son of M.P. John JONES JENKINS,The Grange
>> Swansea. It is dated 29th December1882.
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Western Mail Saturday May 29th 1926.
Wendon HARRIS, an attendant at Angelton Asylum, was riding a pedal bicycle along Dunraven-place, Bridgend, when he came into collision with a motor-car driven by William ROONE, of Westfield-street, Cardiff. He was thrown through the windscreen, and sustained terrible injuries, the most serious being one on the back of his neck.
He was immediately conveyed by Mr. ROONE to Bridgend Cottage Hospital, where he lies in a serious condition.
Richard JONES, 38, a ship's fireman, who was knocked down by a motor-car on the Penarth-road at Grangetown, Cardiff, died at the Cardiff Royal Infirmary on Friday morning.
On completion of twenty-five years' service in Holy Orders, the Rev. E.R. DAVIES, B.A.., Vicar of Cythfarthfa (Merthyr) has been presented by his parishioners with a set of stoles. The presentation was made by the Lord Bishop of Llandaff.
William BARTLE, pattern maker, Port Skewett, and Phillip WILLIAMS, farmer Undy, have been elected to fill casual vacancies on Chepstow Rural District Council.
BARRY CHILD NEGLECT.
Surprising evidence was given at the Barry Police-court on Friday, when Johanna BREWERTON/BREWERTEN.? a middle-aged Barry Dock woman was charged on remmand from Penarth with cruelty to her six children. Defendant, a smartly dressed woman, at times became highly excited and frequently interupted with long protests.
Mr. J.B. Price HUGHES (Messrs. J.A. HUGHES and Co., solicitors, Barry) prosecuted.
Mr. HUGHES said the children were found in the house alone, there was not a grain of food in the cupboard, and the children were said to have existed on the charity of neighbours.
"The mother is away from morning till late at night," continued Mr. HUGHES. Regarding clothing at the time of police visits, each child was sparsely clad, the boys having no shirt. Two of them had no footwear, rags and sacking being tied around their feet. Each bed was in a horrible state, and vermin overran the walls and floor.
Defendant had no ground to plead lack of means, for her husband, a boatswain regularly sent her £2.10s. each week, whilst her eldest son, who was also working, paid her 10s. weekly.
Inspector L. KEMPSTER, of the R.S.P.C.C., then gave evidence.
Replying to the clerk (Mr.J.W. MORRIS) witness admitted that each child was fairly nourished.
They had been fed by neighbours and had been seen picking scraps of refuse from boxes in a lane at the rear of the house.
Mrs. Mary FRANCIS, a tenant of other rooms in the house, stated that defendant had been at home at night only once during the last three months. Witness herself had frequently fed and clothed the children.
Mrs. Grace AVIENT was called by defendant to give evidence, and said: "When I visited the house last week I found everything quite clean and in order."
Inspector Frank EVANS proved two previous convictions at Swansea and one of cruelty to her children at Swansea in 1920, when she received three months' imprisonment.
Mr. T.H. MORDEY (presiding) said the magistrates considered the case an extremely bad one, and in spite of repeated warnings defendant had not deviated from her deplorable ways. She would be sent to jail for three months' hard labour.
The following are people holding office in the Welsh Areas covered by Western Mail at the time.
JOHN J. JACKSON, Director of Education, City-hall, Cardiff.
H. WILSON, M.I.E.E., Suptg.., Engr., G.P.O. Church-road, Rumney (Three Poles).
H. LEONARD PORCHER, Clerk of the Council, Muncipal-buildings, Pontypridd.
MOSES THOMAS, Town-clerk, Muncipal Buildings, Port Talbot.
C. DAVIES JONES, Clerk to the Council, (Bedwas and Machen), Council offices, Bedwas, Mon.
JAMES JONES, Clerk to the Council (Llandyssul Rural District).
other names metioned.
C. LESLIE THOMAS, Solicitor, Neath.
Secretary to the Committee of Management. (Glamorgan Farm School, Tysegur, Neath).
TREVOR HOWELLS, Director, Glynneath Automobile Co. Ltd.
John Patrick
The following was started on Thursday had problems could not finish, so I will finish it now.
John Patrick
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Subject: News Items APRIL 1st to JUNE 30th 1926. Number Two-Hundred fiftyfive.
Western Mail Saturday May 29th 1926.
FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS.
IN MEMORIAM - ROLL OF HONOUR.
EDWARDS.- In Sweetest Memory of Walter, much loved son of Margaret EDWARDS, Treorky House, 16th, R.W.F. Killed in action France 30th May, 1916.
BIRTHS.
EVANS.- On May 22nd at Cartref, Westdale, Mapperly, Nottingham, to Mr. and Mrs. I.J. EVANS, (nee KING), a daughter. Both doing well.
GEORGE- On May 25th, at 8, Newton Villas, Porthcawl, to Mr. and Mrs. I.I. GEORGE, (nee Connie ELIAS), a daughter.
LEWIS.- On May 2th, at The Vicarage, Aberdare, to Winifred, wife of the Rev. James A. LEWIS, a daughter.
MESSER.- On 27th, inst., at Hazelwood, Radyr, to Mr. and Mrs. W.J. MESSR, a daughter.
MARRIAGES.
MacLEOD - EVANS.- On 27th inst., at All Saints' Church, Barry, Donald William, elder surviving son of Major and Mrs. MacLEOD, Gladstone-road, Barry, to Doris Irene, youngest daughter of the late David and Mrs. EVANS, Barry.
DEATHS.
BEDDOE.- At 15, Station-terrace, Nelson, John. Funeral Monday, May 31st, Four o'clock, for Llanfabon; G.O.
BEESTON.- On May 28th, at St. Mark's-crescent, George BEESTON, aged 89. Private funeral arriving Newport Cemetery. 11.40 Monday, May 31.
EVANS.- On the 27th inst., at 21, Zinc-street, Cardiff, Kenneth REES, beloved son of Thomas and Sophia EVANS. Funeral Monday at 3.15 p.m. for Rumney Churchyard.
REES.-On May 27th, Jenkin REES, Ivydene, 78, Ryder-street, Cardiff, aged 60 years, dearly-loved husband of Annie REES. Private funeral.
THOMAS.- On May 28th, at 24, Gwydr-crescent, Swansea, Catherine THOMAS. Funeral Monday, 2.30 for Oystermouth; G.O.
WILLIAMS- On May 28th, at Arymor, New Quay, Cards., Mary Ann, widow of Captain John WILLIAMS. Funeral Wednesday.
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS.
EVANS.- The Family of the late Mr. John EVANS, The Cottage, St. Martin's-road, Caerphilly, wish to thank all kind friends for expressions of sympathy, and beautiful floral tributes..
HOOPER.- Mrs. HOOPER and Family, Pontypridd, wish to thank all kind friends for sympathy and flowers sent.
HOWELLS.- Mrs.Rowland J. HOWELLS and Family desire to express their sincere gratitude to all friends for their floral tributes and sympathy.
THOMAS.- Mr. and Mrs. Herbert T. THOMAS and Family, Cemetery-road, Treorchy, desire to thank the many relatives and friends for their kind sympathy and floral tributes.
IN MEMORIAM..
DAVIES.- In Loving Memory of our dear father and mother, Inspector and Mrs. DAVIES, who died May 29th, 1922, and December 22nd, 1912.
DUFFIELD.- In Ever-loving Memory of our dear sister, Bessie, who passed away 29th May, 1916.
EVANS.- In Tender and Cherished Memory of my loving brother Jack, County Stores, Abertridwr, who died on May 29th, 1920.- Sadly missed by his sister Nan and Nephews.
EVANS.- In Loving Memory of David, third beloved son of Richard and Ellen Jane EVANS, who died at Llancadle on May 29th, 1920.- Deeply mourned by Father, Mother, Sister, and Brothers.
JOHN.- In Fond and Loving Memory of our darling Percy, only and dearly-loved son of Mr. and Mrs. JOHN, Murtonville, who passed hence May 30th, 1922./verse- Mama and Dada.
LEIGH.- In Affectionate Memory of Jessie Louisa LEIGH, who died at Llansannor House, near Cowbridge, May 28th, 1925.
MORGAN.- In Loving Memory of our dear father, John MORGAN, Cardiff Pilot, who passed away May 29th, 1924; also dear Mother, who passed away March 25th, 1920.- Ern. Lena, and Children.
MORGAN.- In Ever-loving Memory of our dear father. Councillor David MORGAN, Glandyffi, Tredegar, who passed away May 29th, 1922.- Ever remembered by his daughters, Kate and Mary.
MORGAN- In Loving Memory of my husband, John MORGAN, Channel Pilot (retired), died at Cardiff May 29th,1924.
ROWLANDS.- In Loving Memory of Eli, beloved husband of Margaret ROWLANDS, Victoria Park, Cardiff, died May 29th, 1920.- Fondly remembered by his loving Wife.
John Patrick
Each day I have read and been thoroughly impressed with the resources freely
given on John Jones JENKINS. I have to admit, it made me kind of jealous
because I too have a JENKINS dead end line. Mary JENKINS is the last direct
line ancestor that I found to complete my eight generation pedigree chart.
She is my 3rd great grandmother. I have found her in a few places such as:
Mary Jenkins is age 25 on marriage certificate 4 Dec 1852 = 1827. She
married Thomas Griffiths and it says her father is Thomas too.
Mary Griffiths is 30, born Llanelly, on the 1861 British Census at
Llangattock = 1831.
Mary Griffiths is 37, born Llanfalle, on the 1871 British Census at
Llansamlet= 1834.
Mary Griffiths is widowed, age 48, Llanfalla, on the 1881 British Census at
Llansamlet, Glamorgan = 1833. I don't know what happed to Thomas.
RESEARCH: No entry was found for the baptism of Mary Jenkins at Llandyfalle
parish register between 1820 and 1840.
Anyway, since you all are so good at this, if you have any ideas PLEASE let
me know.
Cheers!
Shanna Jones