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In a message dated 30/07/2005 23:06:49 GMT Standard Time,
GLAMORGAN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com writes:
Whilst in Cardiff recently I went looking for some sign or remains of the
> Dock Gates on Tyndall Street. Imagine my surprise when I came across a
> memorial to those people who had lived in the New Town area - specifically
> William Street, Pendoylan, Ellen street and another which escapes my
> memory
> at the moment.
> There were the family names - Dacey, Clancy, Donovan, Shea to name but a
> few. set in stone around the memorial which was officially opened, if that
> is the word for it, in March of this year.
> If anyone has any further information I would love to hear from them.
> Many thanks
> Jenny
Hi Jenny
All you want to know is at - _http://www.newtown-cardiff.org.uk/_
(http://www.newtown-cardiff.org.uk/)
Regards Phil T.C.M.
Please could someone help me what school would my Jenkin Hughes have taught at he died in 1938 aged 53 and it says on the grave he was a school master at Clyne.?
Has anyone any link with this family?
Thanks Althea
Jeff not sur if I thanked you for this information which answers more than
the question I asked.
Many thanks
Cheers
Sue in LLantrisant
**********
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Coleman" <jeff.coleman(a)ntlworld.com>
To: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx(a)tiscali.co.uk>; <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [GLA] LLantryddid Spelling? BIRTHS. Help please
> Hi Sue
>
> From FreeBMD there is a marriage in Pontypridd District June quarter 1873
> of John WILLIAMSON and either Elizabeth PROSSER or Cecilia EDWARDS. The
> other groom on the page was Thomas JENKINS.
>
> Jun 1873 11a 518 if ordering from GRO.
>
> This looks likely as Jane PROSSER, sister-in-law, is living with them in
> 1881 (Familysearch)
>
> This looks like the lady in 1861 - with a governess!
>
> Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD
>
> 4041 1861 CENSUS OF PORTHKERRY & PENMARK. REF.R.G.9/4041, E.D.8.
>
> Piece: 4041 Folio: 093 Schedule: 003
>
> Address: CWMCIDDY FARM
>
> PROSSER HENRY HD M 35 FARMER MON BASSALEG (c1826)
>
> PROSSER ANN WI M 33 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1828)
>
> PROSSER ELIZABETH HARRIET DA - 9 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1852)
>
> PROSSER MARGRET ANN DA - 8 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1853)
>
> PROSSER EVAN JONES SO - 6 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1855)
>
> PROSSER WILLIAM HENRY SO - 4 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1857)
>
> PROSSER ELLEN MARIA DA - 2 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1859)
>
> PROSSER EMMA CHRISTIANA DA - 8M - GLA PORTHKERRY (c1860)
>
> JONES WILLIAM FL M 64 FARMER GLA LLYSWORNEY (c1797)
>
> JONES ELIZABETH ML M 57 - GLA LLANTRITHYD (c1804)
>
> HARDCASTLE CHARLOTTE [SV]U 20 GOVERNESS - LONDON (c1841)
>
> HOPKINS CECELIA SV U 20 DAIRY MAID GLA BETTWS (c1841)
>
> BAILEY ELIZA SV U 17 NURSE[MAID] GLA PORTHKERRY (c1844)
>
> WILLIAMS EDWARD SV U 20 CARTER GLA FLEMINGSTON (c1841)
>
> BURBAGE HENRY SV U 15 COWMAN GLA PORTHKERRY (c1846)
>
> HOPKINS JOSEPH SV - 12 GENERAL SERVANT GLA PORTHKERRY (c1849)
>
> "This lookup was made using material published by Glamorgan Family History
> Society, details of membership and their research service with a full list
> of published indexes and transcriptions for sale can be seen on
> http://www.glamfhs.org/ "
>
> As Jane was born in Abergavenny, they may well have been in Mon in 1871.
>
> Llantrithyd marriages would be in Cardiff registration district, whereas
> Llantrisant would have been in Pontypridd district after 1863
>
> Cwmciddy farm is still there.
>
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx(a)tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [GLA] LLantryddid Spelling? BIRTHS. Help please
>
>
>> Graham Hi.
>> Thanks for reply.
>> I am trying to find as much as possible about the wife of
>> John WILLIAMSON b1849 LLantrisant and Died 1917 Buried LLantrisant.
>>
>> His wife was Elizabeth possibly Harriet second fore name.
>> Working from ,1881census where she is shown as 29, born 1852+/-1 ,
>> but no surname, which isn't helpful.
>> Died 1852 buried in family grave LLantrisant Parish Church.
>> Not sure where Marriage was -
>> most WILLIAMSON men and women seem to marry in LLantrisant but
>> LLantrithyd possible.
>>
>> First child recorded in 1881census John J aged 7 LLantrisant, so born
>> 1874
>>
>> Marriage of John WILLIAMSON and Elizabeth (HARRIET) ABT 1873.
>>
>> What I would like to find is the maiden name of Elizabeth , check out
>> where I have calculated dates and then if the family were established in
>> LLantrithyd find out about Elizabeth's family particularly siblings and
>> father's occupation.
>>
>> These are the only clues I have Graham and I will be most grateful for
>> anything you can find out.
>>
>> Thanks for the offer of help.
>> Cheers,
>> Sue in LLantrisant
>> *********************
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Williams" <robert.williams667(a)ntlworld.com>
>> To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 9:26 PM
>> Subject: RE: [GLA] LLantryddid Spelling? BIRTHS. Help please
>>
>>
>>> Hi Sue.Ive got Llantrithyd Registers.[see the Glamorgan Look-up exchange
>>> facility]Who are you looking for?
>>> Remember my little poem....."Give us a clue,and we shall see what we can
>>> do?"
>>> Cheers Graham
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ruth Curtis [mailto:r.curtis@bigpond.net.au]
>>> Sent: 18 July 2005 19:58
>>> To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>> Subject: RE: [GLA] LLantryddid Spelling? BIRTHS. Help please
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Sue
>>>
>>> According to Genuki, it's spelt ... Llantrithyd - and yes, it's in
>>> Glamorgan
>>> "A village three miles eastward from Cowbridge, possessing an
>>> interesting
>>> church and the ruins of a Tudor manor house."
>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llantrithyd/
>>>
>>> Parish Registers are at Glamorgan Record Office - see the above Genuki
>>> page
>>> for details.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Ruth Curtis
>>> Adelaide, South Australia
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Colin , Many thanks for useful information .
Cheers
Sue in Llantrisant
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From: "Colin Roderick" <colin.roderick1(a)virgin.net>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [GLA] GED COM fILE Help please
> Hi Sue,
>
> Have you got a "Family Tree" program on your PC.
>
> I believe that you have to have one (that will accept Gedcom files) to
> download a gedcom file. I know that most of them do, I use the free to
> download PAF program from the Mormon site. (They invented gedcom files.)
> When I first started to get interested in genealogy, I downloaded the free
> program as I didn't know if I would keep it up. Thinking that if I did,
> then I would buy a more sophisticated program. That must have been more
> than six years ago and I haven't had any complaints with it to date.
> As they say, "Why fix it if it aint broke" :o)
> I am sure that there will be more knowledgeable people on the site that
> will answer your question properly though.
>
> Bye for now, Colin............Penzance.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx(a)tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:02 PM
> Subject: [GLA] GED COM fILE Help please
>
>
>>I have failed to down load a ged com file from family search.
>>
>> Are there instructions for how to set up my pc to receive the
>> information.?
>> I can only get as far the display which includes click yes or no
>> .Clicking either takes me no further and apparently I cannot read the
>> file that seems to be there,
>> Any help appreciated.
>> Cheers
>> Sue in LLantrisant
>
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CherieLynn,
Many thanks for numbers and contacts for Ancestry .
I have tried all and failed to get a sensible answer .
AS its only part of £6 have lost think I will retire from the battle but would never get invoved with a large subscription they are nearly as bad as Tiscali with customer support.
Cheers
Sue in LLANTRISANT.
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From: Cherielynn25(a)aol.com
To: pippyx(a)tiscali.co.uk ; GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GLA] ANCESTRY CONTACT PROBLEM-HELP PLEASE
Dear Sue: I usually have what help I need, but recently have discovered that my new Family Tree Maker made to use with Ancestry.com has "many" problems and did get through once and told that they would e-mail me with in the hour on how to uninstall the new version and reinstall my old as well as a possible fix for the new version. Well I got no e-mail and feel almost as if I have been flagged not to answer as I can't get through to anyone with an answer.
Here is the phone number that I have Ancestry 801-705-7000, the customer service number is an 800 so probably no good to you. but the "parent"? company MyFamily.com's number is same 801 number above.
My new FTM won't make banner trees, mess up the PDF's and books and trying to send along to share, it leaves out entire families. I looked at the blogs and seems many people have had probs with this and with other things lately. I hope you find a solution to your problem -- I shouldn't have unloaded mine. But Good luck, Cherie Lynn
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If there is anyone on the list who has Devon census 'as enumerated' for any
19th century date who could help find the occupiers of a specific dwelling
in the parish of Bishop's Tawton, could they contact me off list.
Jeff
Hello Eileen,
Thank you for your e-mail,I loved the personal bit,really brings it to life.
I took another look at the 1881 LDS census and went back a further few houses, also at 1 Ynishir Rd is John Beynon and family a coal miner( would he really have been sharing with the
colliery manager ?) next door to them is "Twynyreryr Farm" a farmer named Thomas DAVIES and family was here( a farmer of 50 acres)
Going in the other direction from my G.Grandfather Jenkin WATKINS ,several houses up were Thomas.J.THOMAS Surface Manager and family at ....Y Graig House.Next door at 16 Ynishir RD was Lewis Williams. Grocer and Post Office..
Does this make any sense to you.
T.I.A
Lynne
Hi Sheila, Well as I research All my lines, I don't have a direct line, if
you are talking about the Male Line. I too have an illegitimate line where
the father is known and I have followed his line back to 1600 - not in Wales
I hasten to add.
Cheers Jill
Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Oxfordshire
See Glamorgan Mailing List website at:-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/
My Family history website:-
http://www.muir.clara.net/villagesnapshot
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From: sam307(a)peoplepc.com [mailto:sam307@peoplepc.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:18 PM
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [GLA] Direct line
Hi Listers,
If a child is illegitimate and one knows who the father is (even though
there is no father's name on the birth certificate) does that person become
the direct line?
Happy Hunting,
Sheila
California
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> Hello List,
Just to say a big thankyou to everyone who responded to my cry for help,
your advice and information is much appreciated.
Linda
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Hi
How can I find out if my ancestors where Gypsy
. I cant find my Grandfathers birth Certificate any were
I was told that his father was a gypsies I
don't know weather to be leave it
can any one help
Veneita
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jenny Anderton" <jenny(a)jenmike.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "glamorgan chat" <glamorgan-l-request(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: Newtown Association
> Hi There
> Whilst in Cardiff recently I went looking for some sign or remains of the
> Dock Gates on Tyndall Street. Imagine my surprise when I came across a
> memorial to those people who had lived in the New Town area - specifically
> William Street, Pendoylan, Ellen street and another which escapes my
> memory
> at the moment.
> There were the family names - Dacey, Clancy, Donovan, Shea to name but a
> few. set in stone around the memorial which was officially opened, if that
> is the word for it, in March of this year.
> If anyone has any further information I would love to hear from them.
> Many thanks
> Jenny
> Fylde area co-ordinator for the Freecens project
> http://www.freecen.org.uk/
> Helping to get the 19th century Census on line for free access by all.
>
>
Hi
I've looked at the Glamorgan section of Pott's Mining Register and
Directory, 1893 purchased from archive cdbooks. Z Thomas was the manager of Tynewydd
Colliery owned by Troedyrhiew Coal Company of Treherbert. Does this help
anyone? I didn't read earlier messages on this topic, sorry, so don't know
what the question was, sorry if I am butting in with useless information.
Best wishes
Marjorie
Sorry - but I never liked being referred to as a 'spinster' and all the
nasty connotations it holds. Funny how bachelor implies quite the opposite.
I'd rather be single myself.
Emma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Curtis" <r.curtis(a)bigpond.net.au>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: [GLA] FW: FFHS-NEWS Marriage Law reforms
> Hi Jill
>
> Thanks for letting us know about that.
>
> Marriage Law reforms!!!!!
>
> So ... political correctness (and its associated de-sexing) comes to the
> Office of the Registrar General.
>
> How long before babies will no longer be registered as boy or girl (or
male
> or female) but "child" or "infant person"?
>
> Bah!!! Humbug!!!
>
> Ruth Curtis
> Adelaide, South Australia
>
> This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by Norton AntiVirus 2005
>
> ______________________________
Hello
I may well contact them - to see if I can be of any use. Monumental
inscriptions for both Mynyddislwyn churches have arrived - I was really
hoping for a stone for Miriam and Mary, but no luck. Have to wait for parish
records to come out I guess.
Goodbye for now
Emma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Muir" <jill(a)muir.clara.co.uk>
To: "Kirk & Emma" <ty.copyn(a)virgin.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
> You know Emma, they would love to have you I am sure.
>
> Cheers Jill
> Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Oxfordshire
> See Glamorgan Mailing List website at:-
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/
> My Family history website:-
> http://www.muir.clara.net/villagesnapshot
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirk & Emma [mailto:ty.copyn@virgin.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:39 PM
> To: Jill Muir
> Cc: GLAMORGAN-(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
>
> I paid £1 for part (Mynyddislwyn) of it on Microphiche.Its a pain to have
it
> that way but I cant afford it any other .
>
> Apparently transcribers are 'pretty thin on the ground' in Gwent. Maybe I
> should offer my services!!
>
> Emma
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jill Muir" <jill(a)muir.clara.co.uk>
> To: "Kirk & Emma" <ty.copyn(a)virgin.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
>
>
> > I know it is frustrating - I need to look at Monmouth records and I
> cannot.
> > How much is their 1851 census?
> >
> > Cheers Jill
> > Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Oxfordshire
> > See Glamorgan Mailing List website at:-
> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/
> > My Family history website:-
> > http://www.muir.clara.net/villagesnapshot
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kirk & Emma [mailto:ty.copyn@virgin.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:32 PM
> > To: Jill Muir
> > Cc: GLAMORGAN-(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
> >
> > Hello Jill
> >
> > Thanks for looking, but I have found him in 1861 - he is living in St
> Davids
> > Wood, Mynyddislwyn with his wife Mary and 4 children (Gwenllian, Moses,
> > George and Margaret) by then. Dont have him in 1851 though, presumably
in
> > Mynyddislwyn as 2 of children born by then. Have ordered 1851 census for
> > area and am awaiting it. Just wish I could get hold of Parish records.
> >
> > Emma
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jill Muir" <jill(a)muir.clara.co.uk>
> > To: "Kirk & Emma" <ty.copyn(a)virgin.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:48 PM
> > Subject: RE: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
> >
> >
> > > Hi Emma, I did do a search for you on the 1861 census too but I simply
> > > cannot find them - maybe I didn't give it enough time. Have you found
> him
> > > then?
> > >
> > > Cheers Jill
> > > Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Oxfordshire
> > > See Glamorgan Mailing List website at:-
> > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/
> > > My Family history website:-
> > > http://www.muir.clara.net/villagesnapshot
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kirk & Emma [mailto:ty.copyn@virgin.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:52 PM
> > > To: Jill Muir
> > > Subject: Re: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Yes I have come accross that in my family before. Younger brothers
> working
> > > on big sisters husbands farms. Its certainly worth bearing in mind.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Emma
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jill Muir" <jill(a)muir.clara.co.uk>
> > > To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Stressy & Emma,
> > > > The whole farm though should read like this. Emma, very often some
> > > > relationship exists between Farm servants and the farmer/wife.
> > > >
> > > > 1423/08
> > > >
> > > > B 10 008 047 ABERCERDIN JONES WILLIAM 35
> > > FARMER
> > > > YES
> > > > B 10 JONES RACHEL
35 -
> > > > YES
> > > > B 10 JONES MARY
8 -
> > > > YES
> > > > B 10 008 047A ABERCERDIN LEWIS DAVID 12
> > M.S.
> > > > YES
> > > > B 10 THOMAS RACHEL 35
> > F.S.
> > > > YES
> > > >
> > > > There are a whole lot of LEWIS families in the MIs for Bettws,
> > > unfortunately
> > > > the earliest of the David Lewis' that are buried there is born 1840.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers Jill
> > > > Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Oxfordshire
> > > > See Glamorgan Mailing List website at:-
> > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/
> > > > My Family history website:-
> > > > http://www.muir.clara.net/villagesnapshot
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stessy Haberfield [mailto:stessy@haberfield.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > > To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > > > Subject: [GLA] David Lewis - Llandyfodwg
> > > >
> > > > Hia Emma
> > > >
> > > > Just been looking through my census stuff - and (unless you know
it's
> > > > wrong) the 1881 says that David Lewis of Llandyfodwg, living in
> > > > Blackmill was born in 1829 (not 1825?) and was an ag lab rather
than
> a
> > > > collier by this time..
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, if you use this date on the 1841 census of Glam there appear
> to
> > > > be 2 possibilites -
> > > >
> > > > One in a family in Coychurch - where you said there were
connections -
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Address: SHELF FACH
> > > >
> > > > B 06 009 059 SHELF FACH LEWIS WILLIAM 40
> > > > (c1801)
> > > > AG.LAB.
> YES
> > > > B 06 LEWIS MAY 30
> > > > (c1811)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > > B 06 LEWIS DAVID 12
> > > > (c1829)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > > B 06 LEWIS WILLIAM 2
> > > > (c1839)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > > B 06 LEWIS JOHN 2M
> > > > (c1841)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > >
> > > > Or more likely, but rather unfortunately
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > District Name: Bridgend Enumeration District: 10
> > > > Llandyfodwg
> > > >
> > > > Piece: 1423/08 Folio: 008 Schedule: 047A
> > > >
> > > > Address: ABERCERDIN
> > > >
> > > > B 10 008 047A ABERCERDIN LEWIS DAVID 12
> > > > (c1829)
> > > > M.S.
> YES
> > > > B 10 THOMAS RACHEL 35
> > > > (c1806)
> > > > F.S.
> YES
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peter is perfectly correct in what he says about it being very liley
> > > > about them being non-conformist. The Ogmore Valley was full of
> chapels
> > > > and the parish church was rather inaccessible up on the mountain.
> > > >
> > > > With regard to the burials, it is possible that the municipal
cemetery
> > > > at "Pwll y Pant" had started to be used rather than the Church
> graveyard
> > > > - particularly if they weren't particularly Anglican.
> > > >
> > > > Were any of David's kids christened in church in Monmouthshire?
> > > >
> > > > Here's the only likely David and Gwen in 1841 in Coychurch - but why
> > > > would they have left David up at Llandyfodwg? He may have been
> > > > considered old enough to work.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > District Name: Bridgend Enumeration District: 4
Coychurch
> > > > Higher
> > > >
> > > > Piece: 1422/3 Folio: 009 Schedule: 044
> > > >
> > > > Address: TY CREEDD
> > > >
> > > > B 04 009 044 TY CREEDD LEWIS DAVID 45
> > > > (c1796)
> > > > AG.LAB.
> YES
> > > > B 04 LEWIS GWENLIAN 40
> > > > (c1801)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > > B 04 LEWIS CATHRINE 10
> > > > (c1831)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > > B 04 LEWIS LEWIS 8
> > > > (c1833)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > > B 04 LEWIS JOHN 5
> > > > (c1836)
> > > > -
> YES
> > > >
> > > > They are still there in 1851, Gwen, both born Coychurch in 1796 and
> 1801
> > > > respectively along with son, John.
> > > >
> > > > Given that John was born in Coychurch, but is NOT christened there,
it
> > > > also lends itself to the idea of non-conformity.
> > > >
> > > > By 1861, the three are still in Coychurch and can afford a servant
> > > > (David and John are both ag labs) - however, here it says that David
> is
> > > > from Llangynwyd (Maesteg). (Sorry, I don't have Llangynwyd PRs).
> > > >
> > > > If you can find Catherine and if she were to be born in Llandyfodwg,
> you
> > > > might have a more convincing link to David.
> > > >
> > > > I have found the below - and shes does have a daughter, Gwenllian -
> tho'
> > > > is born in Coychurch.
> > > >
> > > > 4063 1861 CENSUS OF HOME PENRHYS. REF.R.G.9/4063,
> > > > E.D.6.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Piece: 4063 Folio: 082 Schedule: 008
> > > >
> > > > Address: HEOLFACH
> > > >
> > > > THOMAS WILLIAM HD M 30 COAL MINER
> > > > MON MYNYDDISLWYN
> > > > (c1831)
> > > > THOMAS CATHERINE WI M 31 -
> > > > GLA LLANGRALLO [COYCHURCH]
> > > > (c1830)
> > > > THOMAS GWENLLIAN DA - 1M -
> > > > GLA YSTRADYFODWG
> > > > (c1861)
> > > > PHILLIPS LLEWELLYN SS - 4 SCHOLAR
> > > > GLA LLANGRALLO [COYCHURCH]
> > > > (c1857)
> > > > PHILLIPS WILLIAM SS - 3 SCHOLAR
> > > > GLA YSTRADYFODWG
> > > > (c1858)
> > > > DAVIES LEAH SV U 14 HOUSE SERVANT
> > > > MON BEDWELLTY
> > > > (c1847)
> > > > THOMAS RICHARD BO W 63 COAL MINER
> > > > CGN ABERYSTWYTH
> > > > (c1798)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course, I forgot to ask if you have David and Mary's marriage
> cert -
> > > > which would give you the his address, his age (ish), as well as his
> > > > dad's name and occupation.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, hope that that has helped a bit - thanksing the GFHS of
course
> > > > for look-up material - and for keeping me occupied on a very
> miserable
> > > > afternoon in Pinner!
> > > >
> > > > Stessy
> > > >
> > > > PS I looked in the MIs for Salem Pencoed (very large non-conf
cemetery
> > > > near Coychurch and Gwen and David aren't there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlsglfhs/
> > > > Purchase the 1841;1851;1861 census CDs & Llansamlet Parish
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> > > > Also as fiche and booklets from the Glamorgan FHS
> > > >
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In a message dated 30/07/2005 19:40:30 GMT Standard Time,
ty.copyn(a)virgin.net writes:
Sorry - but I never liked being referred to as a 'spinster' and all the
nasty connotations it holds. Funny how bachelor implies quite the opposite.
I'd rather be single myself.
I always think that spinster has such awful connotations. I see a thin
miserab le old lady with her hair scraped back in a bun. She probably has a
cat and lives alone in a horrid dark house.
Judy.
In a message dated 30/07/2005 20:47:28 GMT Standard Time,
v.maynard(a)btinternet.com writes:
How can I find out if my ancestors where Gypsy
. I cant find my Grandfathers birth Certificate any were
I was told that his father was a gypsies I
don't know weather to be leave it
HI,
There is a gypsy and travellers list which you could try.
GYPSY AND ROMANY F.H.S.
http://www.rtfhs.org.uk/
Romany family hist. society
Romany & Traveller Family History Society in Britain
6, St. James Walk,
South Chailey,
East Sussex,
BN8 4BU
Also this one which is the 1891 census for travellers.
_http://www.nwon.com/pauline/1891.html_
(http://www.nwon.com/pauline/1891.html)
Hope this is some help to you.
Best wishes
JUDY ELKINGTON
www.elkingtonfamily.com
ELKINGTON-L(a)rootsweb.com
www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html
Hello Roy and Jill,
Only just checked my e-mails,thank you both very much for those very swift replies, will be following those up.
Wish I had a few "Zephaniahs" in my lot !
A very grateful
Lynne.
Hello Tina,
Here you are this looks like your family in 1851. This is a census [1841]
where in enumerator did not round down the adult ages by the nearest 5.
2460 1851 CENSUS OF CWMDARE (PART). REF.H.O.107/2460, E.D.2G.
Piece: 2460 Folio: 209 Schedule: 071
Address: 34 HIGH STREET
THOMAS ANN HD W 51 HUCKSTER
GLA ABERDARE
(c1800)
THOMAS WILLIAM SO U 19 MINER
GLA ABERDARE
(c1832)
THOMAS RICHARD SO U 17 HAULIER
GLA ABERDARE
(c1834)
THOMAS THOMAS SO - 11 HAULIER
GLA ABERDARE
(c1840)
BOWEN HENRY LG U 20 HAULIER
CMN KIDWELLY
(c1831)
Cheers Jill
Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Oxfordshire
See Glamorgan Mailing List website at:-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/
My Family history website:-
http://www.muir.clara.net/villagesnapshot
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From: Tina Nobriga [mailto:kittytails@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 4:44 PM
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [GLA] Thomas family in Aberdare
Dear Listers,
If anyone has access to the 1851 census of Aberdare, would you please look
for the family of Ann Thomas?
In the 1841 the family was listed as such:
1841 Aberdare Mill Street
Ann Thomas 40
William Thomas 9
Richard Thomas 7
Thomas Thomas 2
Margaret Jenkin 75
In the 1861 census the family was listed as:
1861 Aberdare 52 High Street
Ann Thomas 60 widow b. Glam. Aberdare
William Thomas 28 b. " "
Richard Thomas 26 b. " "
I received the marriage license for William THOMAS, coal miner, aged 28,
Commercial Place, Aberdare. Son of Thomas THOMAS coal miner (deceased)
To Letice THOMAS, 22 years, of Wind Street, Aberdare. Daughter of John
THOMAS, smith. Married in the Carmel Baptist Chapel on 22 September 1861.
Witnessed by William Griffith and John Picton.
Thank you for any help or direction to find this family in the 1851 census!
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Hi Jill
Thanks for letting us know about that.
Marriage Law reforms!!!!!
So ... political correctness (and its associated de-sexing) comes to the
Office of the Registrar General.
How long before babies will no longer be registered as boy or girl (or male
or female) but "child" or "infant person"?
Bah!!! Humbug!!!
Ruth Curtis
Adelaide, South Australia
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Gosh
Do we have the descendants of all of Craddock Street on this list >grin<
My grandfather John Madden was born at 16 Craddock Street in 1889 , his
father Daniel Madden lived there until his death in 1944 aged 90 odd .
Regards
Carol (Newport)