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>From: "Deborah Taylor" <debtaylor63(a)hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: FAMILY'S LOOKUP'S
>Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:47:50 GMT
>
>Hello Every one,
>
>Could some kind person do a few lookup's for us, we are looking for the are
>family:
>
>Thomas Thomas B:? D:?
>Ellen Thomas B: 1884 D: 8 Dec 1977
>Thomas & Ellen's Children:
>Agnes Thomas B: 4 Sept 1913 D: 19 Nov 1992
>Richard Joseph Thomas B:1912
>All Born In Port Talbot, Wales
>----------------------------------------
>Timothy Harrington B:1897 D: 15 June 1964
>Sarah Ann Harrington (Nee) Crowley B: 28 Sept 1899 D: 23 Feb 1976
>Both Born in Port Talbot, Wales
>Sarah's sister:
>Mary Ellen Jones (Nee) Crowley B:1913 D:28 Sept 1998 B: in Port Talbot,
>Wales
>Edward Charles Jones B: 1911 D: 14 Feb 1991 B: in Port Talbot, Wales
>
>-----------------------------------------
>
>John .H. Barrow 1890--1959 Born In Banstaple, Cornwall, England.
>Sarah .E. Barrow 1886--1974 Born In Banstaple, Cornwall, England.
>John & Sarah's Daughter:
>Lilian Mary Lewis (Nee) Barrow Born In Port Talbot, Wales
>
>
>Would like to thank you in advance. hope there is someone out there that
>can help.
>
>Greatfull
>Sarah & Deborah
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Hello list members
Could s.k.s.. please look up the 1891 census for the following family,
who were living at the following address at the time of the census.
D'Arc. Grand Marionettes
The Victoria Rooms,
St: Marys,
Cardiff.
Many thanks
Nick.
please reply directly to me and not the list.
I dont know if there is a connection but my Gibbons family came from
Rackenford Deven having originated at Culmstock Devon and then moved to Ebbw
Vale and llanhileth
and from there to Bristol
I also have Creese ancestors from Yeovil Somerset as well as Dades
sincerely
Paul Frayne
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From: stjudes <kevin(a)stjudes.f9.co.uk>
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 24 March 2000 20:07
Subject: Gibbons Search
>Hello Listers, can anyone help me with my GGF John Gibbons? I am short
>of info but he married Elliott Smith (you can see my problem tracking
>them) and they came to live in Yeovil, Somerset. John apparently went
>back to mining and died in south Wales c 1911. He is also buried there
>somewhere. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, Jean.
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Hi All
Any ideas on the following from the 1871 census Mountain Ash Gla. John Rees,son,un,28,Underground Rider. Couldn't be a horse rider surely[no headroom]. Tram/Dram rider, normally hitcher,brakeman,tipper,filler. Maybe, just along for the ride? First tourist attraction?
Julie,
I've just joined the list and seen the above exchanges. May I make a suggestion if you have not found your ancestors in the 1861 census.
If you look at a detailed map of Glamorgan you would see that just north of Pontypridd is a place called Cilfynydd and east of there is Mynydd (mountain) Eglwsylan. For this industrial part of the country it is quite rural and there are/were isolated dwellings.
When I lived three or four miles away as a boy we certainly referred to the area as Eglwsilan and rhydfelin simply means "ford by the mill" - quite a common description of a location. So its possible that your ancestor lived in a dwelling in the Eglwysilan area and not in Rhydyfelin (south east of Pontypridd and about five miles away from Eglwysilan). If you've been looking in the parish of Eglwysilan (or Eglwsilian) have a go at Llanfabon rather than Llantwit Fardre or Llanwonno.
I hope that this is more help than confusion - if I lived on Eglwysilian mountain and had to go to school on horseback I think I would chose Cilfynydd - its where my mother went to school but much later than your ancestor!
Idris.
Hi John,
The Popkin family of Swansea are of course very well documented. J C
Richardson was I think, John Crow Richardson, one of a family of
Sunderland shipowners in Swansea, and of course Charles Bath was a
member of the Bath family of shipowners who owned a significant fleet of
copper ore barques working the Swansea - Chile routes. My gggrandfather
was a master mariner who worked for the Richardson and Bath families and
his application for a masters ticket was endorsed by John Crow
Richardson's father.
The Bath family fleet was named after Greek letters, and it may be of
interest to know that Catherine Zeta Jones's middle name came from her
gggrandfather who was master of the Zeta - Just an interesting bit of
useless information!!
In message <29.1de7bed.25ed5609(a)aol.com>, IPopkins(a)aol.com writes
>Hi
>
>I am trying to find descendants of John Lucas POPKIN, solicitor of Llandeilo,
>who died in February 1870. He married Livia Wozencroft of Llanwrda in 1825.
>They had three daughters:
>1) Mary Ann Lucas POPKIN who married Revd. Lewis Morgan in 1852 and had
>several children.
>2) Sophia Laugharne POPKIN who married J.C. Richardson of Swansea in 1860.
>3) Emily Elizabeth POPKIN who married Charles Bath of Swansea in 1856.
>
>Has anyone come across a photograph of John Lucas POPKIN or any member of his
>family? Any information will of course be welcomed.
>
>John Popkins
>
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Dave Thomas
I had a lovely visit to the museum at Pontypridd last Friday. It is a
fine museum and the chapel is beautiful inside. Whilst we were there a
chap came in and started to play the organ, the music was a joy to
listen too. My husband was totally taken aback when the chap started
playing music by Oasis though.
It was quite emotional to see the Albert medal, watch and bible
presented to my g-g-granddfather and I am sure I will return to see them
again.
My thanks to Phillippa for info regarding opening times and to Jill for
her history on the Welsh Baptists. To Stephen. I'm sorry but I saw no
reference to KEATES.
I did buy an interesting book from the chapel a Who's Who in Wales -
1933. if anyone requires a look-up for this time period I'll be glad to
oblige.
regards Pam
--
Glamorgan: DEANS, WILLIAMS, EMBRY Scotland; DEANS
Kent: HOPKINS, KEEN, JACKSON, KITE
Norfolk: BURTON, PETCH, MUTIMER, WARD, KING, HAYHOE, BALLS
Surrey: CREASY, LUFF
Pat Sewell.....
Dear Pat
I couldn't believe that I received an answer to my call for help so soon!
This could well be 'my' Elizabeth Davies, and I will now have to look in the
Llanegwad Parish Register for a possible bapt, with mother Margaret, and
probable siblings as shown by you.
Very many thanks
Joyce
joyce.harris(a)lineone.net
Hi Peter
Thanks for looking.
I am trying to track down Isaac Thomas b. unknown(1855-60ish) Daughter Alice
b. 1879/80/81 Son David b. unknown and two other daughter b. unknown.
Not much to go on I appreciate.
I have been told they came from the Carmarthen area but where they were in
1881 is anyones guess at the moment.
Thanks
Alan
Alan Williams
williams(a)alan4.freeserve.co.uk
Hi Jean
the only info I have is on Alice Thomas b. 1879/80/81 Father Isaac Thomas.
Sisters and a brother David but no ages on them.
Thanks
Alan
Alan Williams
williams(a)alan4.freeserve.co.uk
Dear Friends,
>From unknown source a message was received this morning on our e-mail, which immediately remailed itself to all adresses on our addressbook
It is called "pretty park " and makes it possible when you are on-line to look into your data and steal information such as credit card numbers. So If you have not opened the email do not and delete it immediately.
Norton-Symantec if installed should have caught it (it seems to be circulating since june 99)
If you have accidentally opened it go to http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.worm.html
and it will tell you what to do
Sorry if we unknowingly caused any problem
Robert Ligthelm
Tom Riedijk
David, hi,
If you applied to Pontypridd for the certificate, you could ask them where
this hospital is?
Jill Muir @barrymuir(a)ukonline.co.uk
12 miles, the Welsh side of Oxford
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From: Stephen Keates [mailto:steve@s-ckeates.fsnet.co.uk]
Sent: 29 February 2000 13:52
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: St Thomas's
David
There is a Hospital on Cemetery Road Porth, near the Mount Pleasant area.
It is the only one I can see on the OS Street Atlas.
You could visit your local public library and check the phone book for
Porth. Area book is Cardiff and Vale of Glamorgan No 791.
Hope this helps
Steve
Researching KEATES
JAMES (Porth/Pontypridd)only
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From: David Pike <davidpike(a)lineone.net>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:27 PM
Subject: St Thomas's
> Does someone on the list know of the whereabouts of a hospital or home
> called St Thomas's [in the Porth area?]. I have a relative - William Henry
> Ballsom - who is recorded on the St Catherine's list as having died there
in
> 1935.
>
> Thanks
>
> David
> Lowestoft
>
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Hello David,
Llantrisant and the church are high on a hill top. The stone is better there
than we have in Oxfordshire where it flakes easily *but* there are some
graves which are quite tightly packed together, so watch your feet. I take
my hat off to the transcriber/s of Llantrisant, it is not one that I would
have liked to tackle.
The stones that I have seen in Llantrisant - often visited - I would not
describe as badly eroded. Where you have lichen and moss covering stones, a
water spray [you know those you use for watering small plants?] is great,
and a scrubbing brush.[ Want to bring those over with you? Could use your
toothbrush? <gg>] Do not use anything but water mind, no chemicals - though
chalk is good, as it washes off. You can use this to get into the letters -
with care though.
Bring my cousin over from Canada with you, will you? We could have a great
get-together over our family history matters. Oh by the way what names are
you researching at Llantrisant?
Hope I am not transgressing here, answering this one, folks.
Jill Muir
Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxfordshire
MI Co-ordinator for the Oxfordshire FHS
-----Original Message-----
From: David Thomas [mailto:dthomas@ebtech.net]
Sent: 29 February 2000 16:43
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Monumental inscriptions
Hello Listers,
This is another weird request from Canada. I will be visiting Llantrisant in
June to examine two graves in which my ancestors may rest. Unfortunately the
inscriptions are I believe badly eroded. Do any of those experts and
wonderful
volunteers who have catalogued MIs for the Glam FHS have any tips for
helping
to "make out " the inscriptions. For example, I wondered if wetting the
gravestone might make the lettering a bit clearer.
Thanking you in anticipation, David Thomas , Ontario Canada
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Joyce I assume that you have 'done' the Rhondda 1861 for her? It is just
that Merthyr seemed to be an 'early' place for marriages from Ystradyfodwg -
unless I am greatly mistaken. Two of mine seemed to have travelled from
Llangeinor to marry there, when there is a perfectly beautiful church at
Llangeinor, and little else.
Just a thought.
Jill Muir @barrymuir(a)ukonline.co.uk
12 miles, the Welsh side of Oxford
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From: Joyce Harris [mailto:joyce.harris@lineone.net]
Sent: 29 February 2000 13:26
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Merthyr Look-Ups
Hello Everyone
Is there someone who could help me with Merthyr please?
With very little detail, I am looking for Elizabeth Davies in the 1841
Merthyr census. She would be aged about 12/13, born out of County (bn
Llanegwad, Carms.). I thought I knew the identity of her parents, but I
have recently discovered that I have probably been researching the wrong
Elizabeth Davies. She was married and had a child, Ann, born in Merthyr in
1849. If I cannot find Elizabeth there in 1841, I will have to look for her
in Llanegwad.
Is it possible to look for the child's baptism also please - Ann, born
c1849, d/o John Jones & Elizabeth. I have a copy of a birth cert of a child
born 1852 in the Rhondda.
I appreciate the above are long shorts, but any help I am given in my new
research into Elizabeth would be very much appreciated.
Again, many thanks
Joyce (Dorset)
joyce.harris(a)lineone.net
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Hey folks
No, this is not a listing of gravesites but it is an interesting post I
picked up on the Melungeon list. For some reason Wales came to mind when I
read this. If you can help Leslie out with her question, great, but
remember that Leslie is not a subscriber to our
group.
NOTE: there are actually two msgs, the second meant to clarify a bit.
barbjo
From: "Leslie N. Bright" <lnbright(a)naxs.net>
>Subject: [Melungeon-L] Re: unusual grave "buildings"
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:28:55 -0500
>
> This thread about the grave houses reminds me of a type of grave
that
>I've only seen in the Cumberland Plateau of Middle Tennessee.... the
>"comb" grave.
>
>When I was an undergraduate an buddy of mine was working on his
>genealogy, so I'd go with him to graveyards all over the area around
>Cookeville and Livingston (which is how I became interested in my own
>genealogy). The comb grave of that area consists of, in addition to
the
>headstone and a footstone, two long rectangular pieces of stone set
>over the grave, running from the head to the foot, leaning against each
>other. The appearance is of a little house... with the "comb" of the
>roof running over the centerline of the grave, approx. 2-3 ft over
the
>ground level. The four stones effectively cover the grave, preventing
>critters from getting into the graves, farm animals from walking over
>them, etc. The earliest ones were, if I remember correctly, from the
>earliest 1800s, and the latest ones from the late 1950s. The
geographic
>distribution of this style of grave seems to be associated with the
>outcrop pattern of the Hartselle Sandstone, which is exposed as a
>ledge-former surrounding the Plateau.
>
>Has anyone else ever noticed this unusual grave style elsewhere?
>
>-Leslie
....
>No, I don't mind at all.... Yes, feel free to excerpt it as you'd
like...
>Though to be most explicit about it, the name of the grave has more
to do
with the architectural reference to the comb of the house, being the
ridge
point of a house. Because of the similarity in appearance of the grave
to the
house, the name was transferred over. I don't know that the name comb
grave is
what most people call them... some refer to them as "covered". Comb just
seemed to be the most fitting name among several of us who were into
that sort
of thing in the Cookeville area.
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Hello Sylvia
Mt Gt Gdfather Thomas Parry was born in Tredegar abt 1857. He married
Margaret ????????
and raised their family in Treherbert in the Rhondda. Do you recognise
him?
Regards to you on St David's Day
Parry Edwards
parrye(a)gwenfo.fsnet.co.uk
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From: <SGar178410(a)aol.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: DAVID PARRY AND RACHEL LEWIS - DOWLAIS & ABERDARE
> Hi Adrian.
> I can't remember if i answered a query on your Parrys. I am also chasing a
> family by that name.
>
> John Parry circ 1823 Tredegar (m) 5 Dec 1842 Tredegar Mary Thomas,
fathers,
> John Parry and John Thomas.
>
> In 1871 he is a widdower living at 5 Middle Row Cwmpennar Mountain Ash age
> 48, since The Mount isn't too far from Dowlais, any way just a thought,
> wondered if there was a connection since they all came from Carmarthen
way.
>
> Sylvia Gardner sgar178410(a)aol.com (in California)
>
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Hi Joyce.
There is only one Elizabeth DAVIES aged 13 yrs old on the 1841 census index
of Merthyr Tydfil
either side of that was an 11yr old and two 14 yr olds.
only one of the 14 yr olds was 'not born in the county'.
Hirwaun Works.
Margaret Davies widow aged 45. No. (not born in the County)
Rachel Davies aged 20. No
Mary Davies aged 15. No
Elizabeth Davies aged 13. No
This index states that:
" The whole Merthyr Tydfil Upper (Garth Hamlet) is missing from these Fiches.
Printed statistics indicate that 16, 688 lived there."
Cheers
Pat.
>Hello Everyone
>
>Is there someone who could help me with Merthyr please?
>
>With very little detail, I am looking for Elizabeth Davies in the 1841
>Merthyr census. She would be aged about 12/13, born out of County (bn
>Llanegwad, Carms.). I thought I knew the identity of her parents, but I
>have recently discovered that I have probably been researching the wrong
>Elizabeth Davies. She was married and had a child, Ann, born in Merthyr in
>1849. If I cannot find Elizabeth there in 1841, I will have to look for her
>in Llanegwad.
>
>Is it possible to look for the child's baptism also please - Ann, born
>c1849, d/o John Jones & Elizabeth. I have a copy of a birth cert of a child
>born 1852 in the Rhondda.
>
>I appreciate the above are long shorts, but any help I am given in my new
>research into Elizabeth would be very much appreciated.
>
>Again, many thanks
>
>Joyce (Dorset)
>joyce.harris(a)lineone.net
>
>
>
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Hi Alan
This might be the family you are looking for.
Dwelling: Blaenllechau Rd Ferndale
Census Place: Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342274 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5294 Folio 95 Page
34
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Morgan DAVIES M 46 M Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Collier
Jane DAVIES M 42 F Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Wife
Ann DAVIES U 19 F Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Daur
John DAVIES 12 M Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth DAVIES 8 F Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Daur
Philip DAVIES 5 M Ferndale, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Son
William M. DAVIES 2 m M Ferndale, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Son
Regards
Jennie
Cardiff
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From: Davies, Alan <Alan.Davies(a)torbay.gov.uk>
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 29 February 2000 17:30
Subject: MORGAN DAVIES - SEARCH
>Hello All.
>This is a repeat help request Please. 1871 1881 census.
>Morgan Davies a tin worker in the area of Treforest/Pontypridd --Llantwit
>Fardre Parish 1869 onwards.
>His wifes name is not known but he had a son John Davies born 4th September
>1869 and he would possibly also had another son William Davies. No
christian
>names are known of any other sons/daughters.
>I seem to be cold on this trail so some help would be appreciated greatly.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>Alan
>
>alan.davies(a)torbay.gov.uk
>
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Hi Joyce,
Yes that's the right building.
The Mayfair Cafe was an old haunt of mine many many years ago and hasn't
changed much but I do remember the video shop being many things in its time.
Good luck with your search.
Regards
Roy
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From: Joyce Harris <joyce.harris(a)lineone.net>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 1:14 PM
Subject: Cymmer & Morriston
> Roy,
>
> Thanks for your message. So, I could have taken the right photograph of
the
> Union Hotel after all. The one I took was over the Ritz video shop, and
> possibly over the next door shop also, called Mayfair.
>
> However, I may not have taken a photograph of the right building! I
really
> want to find Elizabeth Fisher in 1891 in Morriston, hopefully in a
> hotel/public house, even if not living in the Union Hotel - but surely my
> mother couldn't just have dreamt this name up.
>
> Again my thanks,
>
> Joyce (Dorset)
> joyce.harris(a)lineone.net
>
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