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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.
If anybody fancies doing a census check of PONTYCYMMER in 1871&1881,I would be most
grateful.
I am looking for a JOHN GRIFFITHS(HEAD) and his daughter ELIZABETH. both of whom
were possibly born in ST. ISSELLS,SAUNDERSFOOT,PEMBROKESHIRE.
JOHN would be aged about 52 and ELIZABETH about 21,in 1881.
THANKING YOU ALL
David.
Goodmorning List,
Many thanks to Ann Bishop and Jennie Newman for the help with the Rees lookups they have added another piece in the jigsaw.
Ian,
Hay-on-Wye.
Please if anyone gets this could they please reply. It would appear my posts
are not getting through.
I have a family living in Abernant Aberdare Glam on the 1861-71-81 census
who give their birth places in 1861-Llangyfelach ,1871- Morriston , 1881-
Landore , All other details match names , children , ages , occupation's . I
have looked at map I have & these places seem to be separate towns ? is
there anyone who can tell me if it is probable that in the 1800's they were
one place , or offer another explanation. Many thanks, Carol
Hi Sue
These are the only ones I can find on the 1851 glamorgan census.
The only one listed for Aberdare.
High Street, Aberdare
LLEWELLYN SARAH HD W 48 HOUSEKEEPER C1803
DAVIES JOSEPH SO 9 C1842
POLLY MARGARET LG U 38 CHARWOMAN
POWELL MARTHA DA 2 C1849
The only listing for a Sarah and David
Pyle Village
LLEWELLYN DAVID HD M 31 COKER C1820
PEM. WOODSTOCK
LLEWELLYN SARAH WI M 25 COKERS WIFE C1826
LLEWELLYN MARGARET DA 2 C1849
There is also a Sarah Ambrose listed in Cardiff, age 28, living with her
parents - you didn't mention when Sarah and David married.
Regards
Bronwen
Oxfordshire
Hi,
I have a friend who has a great great grandfather named David S. Morgan, born
31 Oct, 1835 in Galmorgan Shire, South Wales and died 10 April 1897 in Plains,
Pennsylvania. She would like to make contact with anyone related to or has
connections with David S. Morgan.
I have a photograph of his headstone and part of the inscription on the stone
reads as follows:
"David S. Morgan, Born Oct. 31, 1835, In Stormy Galmorgan Shire, South Wales.
Died April 10, 1897, in Plains, PA.
Gwellyw Gobbithio Yn Yr Abglw Xod, Mag Ymddiried Mewn dyn.
Can anyone tell me what this says. There are two words I am not sure are
spelled corectly (Gobbithio and Abglw). The photo is very grainey and a bit hard
to read on some of the letters.
Thank you for your time,
Constance
Hi Allen,
your family are not in David St in 1841, but from the births of their
children, it looks as if you should be looking in Newport, sorry that I
can't help with this one.
Elinor Wood
2455 1851 CENSUS OF CARDIFF (SOUTH CENTRAL). REF.H.O.107/2455, E.D.4J.
Piece: 2455 Folio: 416 Schedule: 036
Address: 22 DAVID STREET
EDWARDS THOMAS HD M 41 BLACKSMITH
HEF LUGWARDINE
(c1810)
EDWARDS HARRIET WI M 42 -
MON ABERGAVENNY
(c1809)
EDWARDS MARY A. DA - 10 SCHOLAR
MON ABERGAVENNY
(c1841)
EDWARDS THOMAS SO - 13 SCHOLAR
MON NEWPORT
(c1838)
EDWARDS JANE DA - 11 SCHOLAR
MON NEWPORT
(c1840)
EDWARDS HARRIET DA - 9 SCHOLAR
MON NEWPORT
(c1842)
EDWARDS CATHERINE DA - 7 SCHOLAR
GLA CARDIFF
(c1844)
EDWARDS LYDIA DA - 5 SCHOLAR
GLA CARDIFF
(c1846)
HUNT GEORGE LG M 35 RAILWAY LABOURER
DEV TOTNES
(c1816)
HUNT ELIZABETH WI M 18 -
GLA CARDIFF
(c1833)
HUNT JOHN SO - 1 -
GLA CARDIFF
(c1850)
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From: Ableth(a)aol.com <Ableth(a)aol.com>
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 30 December 2000 13:32
Subject: Re: Look up please
>Seeking following help in Cardiff
>1841 Census for Edwards family at 22 David St. They were there in 1851.
>If possible also 61 and 71 census
>A little to much I know.
>Regards Allen in Aberavon where any research is a pleasure to give.
>
>
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>South/West Wales lookup exchange:
>http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html
>
Can anyone help - or is he out there - with the correct address for DARREN EVANS who enquired about this Cardiff chapel some time back? I have the address 'riptide(a)alberni.net' which worked fine at the time but now everything is getting returned.
I promised to take photos during my recent visit to Cardiff and have done so but now can't get the note with details or the scan through to him.
Darren, if you're out there, please confirm the address or any change so I can let you have these photos!
A very happy New Year/Millenium to one and all and thanks for all your help in the past year, you really brighten my days!!
Cheers! Cy
http://www.nanticokepa.com/x-concrete.jpg
Hi all,
To compare concrete houses, did the Dinas concrete houses look anything like
the ones in the photo at the above address? The above photo shows concrete
houses whiche were built by the coal company in Nanticoke, an old coal town
in Pennsylvania. That part of town was called Concrete City.
Samuel
Hi all,
I wanted to thank everyone for the many responses to my questions about
Holidays, they were all very interesting and helpful. I will have a look into
the suggested references for additional information. Your many helpful
insights have provided more information than all of the times I've previously
tried to research the subject. Thanks so much.
I thought someone might mention May Day, I was under the impression that it's
origin stemmed from the UK , and though it probably isn't really celebrated
any more, I thought perhaps it was still acknowledged on May 1st.
When I was a child, my parents told me that May Day was the celebration of
spring, and my mother helped me and some other neighborhood children to make
paper baskets, which we filled with wildflowers. We went around to all the
houses on the street, hung a basket on the doorknob, rang the doorbell and
ran! We continued this practice for several years until we decided it was too
childish. I think once we even constructed a makeshift Maypole, and skipped
and danced around it, singing at the top of our lungs. Does this sound like
the usual May Day festivities, or was my mother just trying to keep us
occupied, and out of trouble for a while? If I mention May Day now, I mostly
draw blank looks. No wildflowers in New York today, just lots of snowflakes.
Thanks again,
Rhonda
----- Original Message -----
From: Dilys Xavier
To: Glamorgan
Cc: Glamorgan
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:55 PM
Subject: Boxing Day
Subject: Boxing Day?
According to the Australian poet, John O'Brein, it was the day they held the races at Tangmalangaloo.
Am looking to see if DAVID LLEWELLYN and SARAH (AMBROSE) LLEWELLYN show up in
the 1841 or 1851 census for Aberdare. I'm trying to determine when they
immigrated to America.
Thanks!
Sue
Quite likely Huw, but I was basing my marriage date [earlier than your
mother's, who is obviously still a whipper snapper!!] on the pulling down of
the Concrete - but then I only lived in the Rhondda for a short while, all
my knowledge stems from talks, visits as a child/ youngster and later
knowledge. I would expect your Mum to be correct as Ann, Sarnia is. ;-))
Jill
Jill Muir, e-mail:- jill(a)muir.clara.co.uk
Kingston Bagpuize with Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon
Hi All
Unluckily for most of you out there in cyber genealogy land you will have
missed my nomination for best film on TV over Christmas. It was on S4C our
Welsh TV station.--
"Solomon a Gaenor" With Ioan Gruffudd and Nia Roberts and boy is she
georgeous.
A powerful love story based around the Jewish riots in Wales where the Welsh
decided to trash the Jews rather than their usual foes the Irish. (why oh why
did we not trash the English instead) Part of the hidden history of this land
of "We'll keep a welcome"
If you should get a chance to see this film I for one recommend it. Double
subtitltes Polish / Hebrew translated to Welsh and English. English
translated to Welsh plus full English subtitles for those who do not speak
Welsh.Even the pig squeals in Welsh when killed.
Anyone out there remembers when the pig had his head stove in with a sledge
hammer throat cut and all the blood got saved in a bucket for black pudding.
With these dual / treble language fillums I usually find myself hearing the
Welsh and forgetting to read the English but still with Nia Roberts in it who
wants to read anything.
Regards Phil the Cardiff mongrel
I will check for you on both the 1841 and 1851 census' for Glamorgan. I
probably will not get to it until Tuesday, as the library is probably closed
for the holiday's.
Tracey
I have been unable to get any lookup help so now I am asking if anyone would
happen to know the LDS FHC microfilm numbers for the full census for
1841,1851 of the area that would include Rhymney, Wales. My great
grandparents immigrated to the US in 1865. I have been unable to locate my
SULLIVAN line in or around Rhymney. I therefore would like to look at the
full 1841, 1851 census of the appropriate area to see if I can locate Patrick
SULLIVAN, born circa 1842, his parents or siblings. I do know that Patrick
had a brother Florence but I do not know if he was in Wales at the time.
Marriage certificate General Register Office R005752 indicates Patrick
SULLIVAN was 21; a bachelor; a fireman in the iron works married Ellen
CUMMINS; 19; a spinster. They were living in Rhymney. Patrick's father was
John SULLIVAN(deceased); a general laborer. Ellen CUMMINS was living in
Rhymney; her father was John CUMMINS; a general laborer.They were married 25
July 1863. Marriage was solemnized at the Register Office Bedwellt, Monmouth
Wales. Witness was David Evans and Mary By***.
According to the Monmouthshire 1861 census, in the registration District in
Bedwelty, sub district Tredegar John CUMMINS Rhymney. Ellen was 14 at the
time. PRO 4001 79 05. The full census indicates that the CUMMINS family lived
at 13 Furnace Row in Rhymney further indicates that both John CUMMINS and his
wife Ellen (O'BRIEN/O'BRYAN) were both born in Ireland and the children were
born in Wales. Which would seem to indicate the CUMMINS family had been
settled in Wales since at least 1845.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated as this is one of my brickwalls
and my New Year's resolution is to attempt to break through and find my
paternal ancestors.
Thank you for any and all comments.
Regards,
Walt
I have just recently uploaded two more pages of crews & passengers of
Cardiff ships in port 1881 plus one page for Barry. Also additional data for
North Devon.
It should be noted that many of the seamen listed in these pages are
non-British - they include many from USA, Germany, Italy, France, Denmark,
Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Spain, Finland, Austria and some from China &
Turkey, in addition to those from Commonwealth countries, Canada, Australia,
New Zealand, West Indies etc
Quite a number of the boats listed are Pilot Cutters, Tugs etc as well as
the various small, medium and quite large coastal craft and ocean going
vessels.
Please see my webpage at http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/81Intro.html
or via my main page at http://www.angelfire.com/ga/BobSanders
Currently working on Swansea and other ports.
Regards
Bob Sanders
Cardiff
----- Original Message -----
From: <GLAMORGAN-D-request(a)rootsweb.com>
To: <GLAMORGAN-D(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 12:00 PM
Subject: GLAMORGAN-D Digest V00 #1155
Ask Jeeves produced the following:
"Crockfords first issued their printed Clerical Directory in 1858.
Currently the Directory covers the clergy - men and women in bishop's,
priest's, or deacon's orders serving in the Church of England, the Church in
Wales, the Scottish Episcopal Church and the Church of Ireland, or retired
from ministry in those Churches.
If your query is an historical one or relates to other parts of the Anglican
Communion the Dial Up service is not for you.
Historical enquiries may sometimes find response from present holders of the
same position, but may need to be referred elsewhere. The best course of
action is often to write to
Lambeth Palace Library
LONDON
SE1 7JU
enclosing Stamped Addressed Envelope or International Reply Coupon. Please
give as much information as you can when writing and allow a little time for
research of your query."
Regards, Peter
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From: <Sandersunderhill(a)aol.com>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 7:29 PM
Subject: Crockford's Clerical Directory
> Can SKS tell me where I can access the above in its earliest editions,
i.e.
> 1858 - 1865.? I am seeking informtion about a Rev. William Vaughan
> Yorwarth, who is known to have been the curate or vicar at
Westbury-on-Trym,
> Glos in or about 1860, but I can find no further details. Locally, my
> Record Office has the editions of the Directory from about 1875 onwards,
but
> he is not shown in them. Margaret Sanders from Wiltshire.
>
>
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> "Life is what happens when you are making other plans"
> John Lennon
>
Snow in Criccieth? Well, even one centimetre of snow fell here two nights
ago, but nothing since. A great disappointment to my husband.
Dilys
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Powell <Allen.Powell(a)aneddle.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: Dinas Concrete
> My sincere thanks to all those who sent such interesting replies to my
query about the Dinas Concrete Street, and a Happy New Year to everybody !
> Allen, Criccieth, Gwynedd, where it snowed again last night and now we've
got 3 or 4 inches which is most unusual for Criccieth. However a thaw has
set in and it will soon be gone !
>
>
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> South/West Wales lookup exchange:
> http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html
>
>
I keep a container of aloe vera gel in the fridge for sunburn. Icy cold
gel slapped on the sunburn means no redness or blisters the next day. I've
been enjoying the 'cures' discussion. My father comes from a line of
pharmacists who made their own preparations before various health depts set
up rules and regulations. Interesting to read great grandfather Griffiths'
prescription books. We have a very old publication which we believe was
brought to Australia by Jenkin Lewis ( Griffiths' brother in law) which
outlines a number of cures, potions etc - fascinating reading. Griffiths and
Lewis came from Neath and migrated to Charters Towers North Queensland to
set up pharmacies. My brother is the fourth generation in the business.
Best wishes to all for a safe healthy and fulfilling 2001.
Lyn in a very wet Charters Towers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Watergrdnr(a)aol.com <Watergrdnr(a)aol.com>
To: GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, 28 December 2000 12:14
Subject: Re: GLAMORGAN-D Digest V00 #1149
>Hi Rhonda,
>
>You are absolutely right about the aloe vera plant. Most Texans keep a
small
>one growing in the kitchen to have on hand in case of a burn. It is a God
>send. You just break off a small piece on an end piece and squeeze the
>gentle juice right on the burn. Nothing else necessary. It soothes
>immediately.
>
>Jodie B OWEN Russu
>
>______________________________
I read with interest your response about your family Rhys. I am currently reading the book about Sir Rhys ap Thomas by David Rees.
I too am related to a Rhys, Morgan John Rhys whose daughter Jane Rhys married David Thomas, born 1761. Jane is my GGGGgrandmother and David is my GGGGgrandfather.
I am currently looking for information about Morgan John Rhys, his children and David Thomas while
they were in Wales.
If you have any information, I would be glad to correspond.
Regards
Gerald Thomas