It is nice to see for you, that Sandy has found the emigration record
and that you know now the place of origin.
It is interesting, that your Franz family came from the same region
how my Hanusch family (Hohenelbe, Vrchlaby), southerly from the
Giants mountain. Herrmannseifen and Oberaltstadt was northeastern
In the old land register from the Hohenelbe district lived for example
55 Franz (or Frenzel) families there.
For example, in Herrmannseifen lived ca. 1890/1900, 24 Drescher families
and in Kottwitz 1 family and 34 Franz families in the political district
Hohenelbe and Arnau.
You has truly much luck with all this new informations.
I, for example had an ancestor who is born 10 miles from this Ober-
altstadt in Porici, but he emigrated to the US from an other town in
Bohemia and I could't find his passenger record as yet. Although
I think he traveled also over Dresden to Bremen or Hamburg.
Sorry, IA is Iowa. When you needs this Census image, I can send
it to you in an attachment.
The records from Kottwitz, Oberaltstadt etc. are in the archive in
good luck and best wishes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Willow and Damien Aliento-Prokop" <willowa(a)nor.com.au>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Franz and Drescher families Bohemia
Thats them allright!!!!! thankyou!
Where is IA???? (we don't learn all the US states)
According to Aurelia's story, Oswald and Franz (the two eldest) did go
earlier with their father to check things out, father Franz left them
there while he went back home to collect the rest of the family.
They embarked from Bremen, but didn't live there. Aurelia said they
lived in a town some distance from Dresden, where they went to get a
train to Bremen, and embarked on the Kronprinz Wilhelm. It bothers me
about her story that she is so precise about these names and details,
but does not give the names of the villages and towns they lived in,
nor the ones her grandparents lived in, though she writes about going
there. (They lived in two different places before she was six, and
both of her parents parents lived elsewhere, and they had no immediate
relatives she mentions in either of the places the family ran the two
businesses she remembers (dry goods the first one, grocery the
second. She also mentions her father going hunting for days at a time
with other men in the Black Forest during the time they lived at the
village on the Elbe.)
I am sure if I can track down a related brach, it will all become
Thanks for that census result, because it also fills in a part of the
story I know little about, the bit between the Franz family entering
at Ellis and Irma marrying Paul Benoit of Yakima -- which is about 25
years! I can now look at the history of that place at that time, and
know a little more about their lives. Thankyou so much!
Best wishes of the season,
> Dear Willow,
> there was an Franz Franz in the 1910 Census, Clinton, Clinton IA,
> wife Theresia (47), children Franz (23), Marie (21?), Oswald (20),
> Hedwig (17), Rudolph (16), Alfed (14), Aurelia (12), Irmgard (8)
> As place of origin is given German-Bohemian. The family emigrated
> Oswald (20) and Franz (23) emigrated seeming earlier in 1904.
> Franz and Theresia was 26 years married.
> I think when you can find their passenger record, maybe there stands
> sometimes the correct town of origin.
> hope it is a little help
> Best season wishes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Willow and Damien Aliento-Prokop" <willowa(a)nor.com.au>
> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:55 AM
> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Franz and Drescher families Bohemia
> > Hello,
> > My great-grandmother Irmengard (Irma ) Franz born Bohemia 1899,
> > USA 1967, was the daughter of Franz Franz (1857/9 - 1929) and
> > Drescher (1862-1924).
> > Irma was the ninth (and last) child, the others being Marie b 1885,
> > Frank 1887/9, Oswald b 1889, Augusta b 1891, Rudolph b 1893, Hedwig
> > (hazel) b 1892, Alfred b 1895, Aurelia b 1898.
> > I can't find anything at all about Franz or Drescher families of
> > Sudentenland for the period.