Dianne you will find the same format in Polish Church Registers, if the
people lived in Galicia (Southern Poland along Slovakian and Ukrainian
Borders) which was part of the Austria-Hungarian Monarchy and subject to
the same regulations.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Aida Kraus <draytonharbor(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dianne, the recording was standard in the Monarchy. Don't forget,
was part of that Monarchy for nearly 400 years and while the early records
are in Latin, later on they recorded in the language of the area. You
always will find nearly the same format in all churches or offices. So
watch out, what language is used on the Catholic church records you are
researching. If it is German, they people were of German ethnicity, if it
is written in Czech, they are of Czech ethnicity. As to illegitimate
children, you may check the marriage records up to two years later where
you will most often find that the couple marries as soon as the military
duty for the groom has ended. Often, they were engaged before the young
man was conscripted. As soon as the soldier came home, you will find a
marriage. So, if you encounter a birth entry of a child from an unwed
union, follow the records a few years afterward and note the recording of
legitimacy of that child with the wedding of the parents.
People did not travel much, but the monarchy being so
extremely large, it gave the men a wonderful opportunity to see something
of the world. They were employed in the military according to their
craftsmanship which is recorded on their military records.. The family at
home stayed on their land for many generations. Usually, the oldest or
youngest son inherited the spread. He then had to pay out his siblings
inheritance share, which usually took 20 years. And this is why they record
emigration, because legally the inheritor is obligated to send the annual
pay out to wherever these siblings reside. The profits of the next 20
years operating the farm was needed to pay out siblings, and the profit for
the 20 years thereafter is usually used for maintenance and upkeep of
the house and outbuildings, or enlarging the farm, so that when the next
generation takes over, the young couple does not have to worry about
maintenance, because then it will be their turn to pay out their
siblings. So each generation "acquires" the place anew, and as Goethe wrote
in Faust: "That which you've inherited from your fathers, earn it in order
to possess it."
Most of our farm families were extremely moral and orderly and
there was very little crime among the natives. And watch for the
legitimacy of the children, because men in military service were not
allowed to marry during their tour of duty, unless they were officers. The
officers were an elite class, and if a farmers daughter wanted to marry an
officer, the family had to pay 20,000 Kronen security to the Monarchy
to achieve that status. Therefore, it was mostly a daughter from a
tradesman, lawyer, doctor or factory owner who married into the officers
All priests were well educated, as were teachers, and
education was encouraged in Europe since Martin Luther which was in the
15th century. And there was mandatory school education since 1775 of all
children. In fact, if you kept your children at home, the police would
visit the family and made them aware of their unlawfulness. First ALL
children had to have an education of at least 4 years to learn to read and
write, do arithmetic and they had Religion as a school subject up to my own
school years. Later education was extended to 6 years. In order to
apprentice in a craft you had to have 8 years of schooling, and above that
students were selected for academic training. For at least 75 years, all
education is free in Germany including University level; all you have to do
is to maintain a certain scholarly average and follow the advice of the
counselor as to what training to pursue. In Europe studies are made years
ahead of what jobs will be available or desirable at the time of the
student's graduation. There is no "willy nilly" subject taking, because
there you train for a profession as a job that will be available at
graduation. Children not applying themselves to academic learning are
weeded out to the next lower educational level, but they can follow up
later with tests, when they so desire. Pay is equal for men or women, as
the job has a pay norm regardless which sex occupies that position.
Enjoy your findings, because they are "telling a story"....
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Dianne Erickson <wasieerick(a)milwpc.com>
> I am just amazed at these online Czech records and all the information
> they give. I have all these translated because there is no way I can work
> my way through old German Script—except to pick out names here and
> there--but baptism records give the parents, the house number they live in,
> the grandparents, including grandmothers’ maiden names and the house
> numbers each grandparent is from and the villages. Sponsors are listed and
> their occupations and whether they are making marks or can write their own
> names. Also whether parents were legitimate.
> I learned: follow the house. For example, someone in the family seems
> to be in “House 1” for generations. I also noticed that when an elderly
> couple dies, sometimes there is a marriage and a new family is in the House.
> Someone even went back and marked every baptism record when the family
> went to America.
> It is hard to make a mistake or have to guess.
> Were the priests or recorders better educated in Bohemia? Or was family
> more important?
> I wish the records from Poland looked like these.
> Once you find the village, it is like discovering gold. I have two lost
> families to go.
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