Whoops! Yes it was 1648 not 1848!!! Those typo gremlins again!
On Jun 16, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Aida'smail wrote:
Nice story..... but you must have made a typo, Bob, because your
states that the Swedes mustered out in 1848 (!!!???) The conclusion
thirty years war was 200 years before that date, not in 1848 but in
The thirty years war ended with the Westphalia Peace signed 24.
1648 allowing the populace to pursue their religious preferences.
horrible war killing more than 50% of the European population was
1618-1648. But I am sure that this was merely a typo, because that
Europe is as poignant as the Civil War here in America and is also
to all of us genealogy researchers, because it is the cut off year
most of our church records got lost. They called the horrible
"Der Rote Hahn" (red rooster) which was causing destruction of entire
villages when they were burning churches, stole food and spread
The waves various armies drifting through the country side did not
crumb to eat for the populace by the time they left, they brought
pestilence, disease, and incredible hardship. It must have been an
unbelievable effort to survive 30 years of such unstable life! Most
certainly only the strongest survived.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Paulson" <rpaulgb(a)comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Swedes in Bohemia
Swedes in Bohemia
With all the discussion on various ethnic groups in Bohemia I have a
story I would like to share with you.
My mother's maiden name is Helget. Helget and Helgert are common
names found in the Böhmerwald region of Bohemia. Helga is also a
Swedish forename and can be used as the patrilinial name, Helga-son.
Several years ago, when traveling in Europe with my mother, we
stopped in Vienna for a few days. While there were looked in the
phone book and found several HELGETS. On a lark, we called a few
until we found one gentleman who spoke English. He invited us over to
his home for coffee. We traveled to his place by taxi and, when we
arrived, found that the gentelman was a WWII casualty and was
bedridden. During our visit he told us that the name HELGET was
Swedish and was carried to Bohemia by a Swedish soldier during the
Thirty Years War. This Helget soldier was supposedly mustered out of
the Swedish Army at the conclusion of the war and stayed in Bohemia,
thus starting the Helget family line.
After returning home I was reading in the Bischofteinitz Heimat book
and I found that, indeed there was a Swedish Army unit mustered out
at the conclusion of the Thirty Years War in the area of Ronsperg.
The book also gave the name of the commanding General. I wrote to the
Swedish Military Archives in Stockholm and asked if they had a muster
roll of this particular unit. I was hoping to find the Helget name.
In a letter from the archives I was informed that there was no muster
roll of this unit and that, by this time during the Thirty Years War,
a good percentage of the soldiers in the Swedish Army were
mercenaries coming from many parts of Europe, even Ireland and that
most of the original soldiers that had left Sweden at the beginning
of the war were either dead, wounded or had returned to Sweden early
in the war. So, there was no way the story of the Swedish HELGET
soldier could be verified.
Even so, a fascinating bit of family lore!!!
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