To Anna: You mean a farming village rather than a mountain village? You have to ask your grandma if she came from the Egerland or the Erzgebirge. If it was from the Erzgebirge, then the Neuhaus (Chaloupky) she came from was near Hochofen/Neuhammer, (that is where they skied at the Hofberg.) Remember those names and ask her. If the names in the Erzgebirge are not familiar to her, then there is another Neuhaus near Schirnitz in the district of Eger, and they call that one "Zirnice" now, which would be a village in the flatland along the Eger. I don't know which one she came from. There is a third near Kaaden and several others not in the vicinity of Carlsbad. The one near Schirnitz would be more a farm village but is further away from Carlsbad than the one near Hochofen/Neuhammer in the mountains. Each of these villages have their own administrative "Heimatstuben" in Germany, where volunteers are keeping old records, village plans and the names of the people expelled, house names of families who lived there for many hundreds of years. They also collect things people brought with them from German Bohemia to Germany. I will find contacts for you as soon as we can identify the exact place where she came from. If it she came from Neuhaus near Schirnitz (now Zirnice) in the district of Eger, I will have to make another search for you. Did your grandmother come to the States after the expulsion from her Bohemian homeland, or was she born here to immigrants from German Bohemia? Ask her, if she came from the Erzgebirge or from the Egerland or the Saazer Land. That will then identify the correct Neuhaus you are looking for. We will get to the bottom of this, eventually. Aida ---------------------- On 9/25/09, Arianwen <arianwen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Aida - > > Thanks for the help! My Oma doesn't know any of the Czech names as > she and > her family had gone to the States by then, but she described > Neuhaus as 'a > peasant village'. I can ask for more specifics (as far as nearby > mountains, > etc) once she's home from hospital. My German is still good enough > that I > shouldn't have trouble with Siegel's book, if I can get a hold of it. > > Thanks again! > > Anna > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:00 AM, > <german-bohemian-request(a)rootsweb.com&gt;wrote: > >> >> >> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Egbhs/> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Lihl Family Of Neuhaus (Arianwen) >> 2. Re: Lihl Family Of Neuhaus (Aida Kraus) >> 3. Re: Lihl Family Of Neuhaus (Aida Kraus) >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:12:51 -0400 >> From: Arianwen <arianwen(a)gmail.com&gt; >> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Lihl Family Of Neuhaus >> To: GERMAN-BOHEMIAN(a)rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <a0a930ec0909191112q5e1528b1mf9f86d6c8905e6cc(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi, I'm looking for more information on my Oma's family. >> >> Her mother was Emma Lihl, from Neuhaus, born in the 1890s, who >> emigrated >> to >> New York sometime in the 1910s. She had at least one sister, >> Hannelore >> Lihl, >> who lived in Carlsbad, and my grandmother Eleanore Beu and her >> brother >> Rudolf Beu lived with her in Carlsbad for a few years around >> 1930. Does >> anyone have any info about the Lihls? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Anna >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:57:09 -0700 >> From: Aida Kraus <birchbaylady(a)gmail.com&gt; >> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Lihl Family Of Neuhaus >> To: german-bohemian(a)rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <ca12d4250909191357me891404n43fb49102c01d8f1(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Anna, this needs a bit of a closer look as to which Neuhaus you are >> referring to. The closest to Carlsbad would be Neuhaus (now that >> area >> is called Chaloupky) near Neudeck (Nejdek) on the foot of the Ore >> Mountains. Hirschenstand and Neuhaus no longer exist, they have >> been >> eradicated. The records for this Neuhaus (Chaloupky) are kept in >> the >> Pilsen Archives and this is what is available: >> >> 11 * Neuhaus 1784-1824 >> 12 * Neuhaus 1824-1844 >> 13 * Neuhaus 1844-1862 >> 14 * Neuhaus 1863-1887 >> 16 oo Neuhaus 1785-1849 >> 17 oo Neuhaus 1850-1899 >> 18 + Neuhaus 1784-1838 >> 19 + Neuhaus 1838-1877 >> >> >> Abk?rzungen: >> * = births, baptisms / Geburts- oder Tauf-Buch bzw. -Matrik >> oo = marriages / Heirats- oder Trau-Buch bzw. -Matrik >> + = deaths, burials / Sterbe-Buch bzw. -Matrik, Beerdigungen >> i = this section indexed, at least partially / >> mit Register/Namens-Index (alphabetisch), mindestens teilweise >> i/s = separates Buch mit Index >> You can find the place on a map at this website >> www.mapy.cz. (enter Chaloupky and Nejdek) >> You can also go to your Library and ask for an Interlibrary >> Loan for a book by Edwin Siegel who has published the Neudeck area >> church registers. Below is the information you need to get this >> book. It is written in German, but you will be able to look through >> the name list there. Here is the book information >> 1992: QNN, Neudek,2, >> Oldest available church register from 1562-1597 of Neudek in the >> Egerland, containing name and village registers, by Edwin Siegel, >> Publisher Degener, Neustadt/Aisch 1992, ISBN 3-7686-4131-7 >> Although I am pretty sure that the above Neuhaus is the one you >> are looking for, because it is in the vicinity of my hometown >> Carlsbad, there is another. That other Neuhaus is now called >> Jind?ich?v Hradec near Neubistritz. For this Neuhaus you can >> get in >> touch with a person who was expelled from that town and you could >> write to him at this address to find out if there were persons of >> your >> Lihl family in his records. Here is the address: >> Kreisbetreuer Hans Binder, >> Burghofstra?e 5, >> 7446 Oberboihingen bei Stuttgart >> Germany. >> Even though this seems an old address and the person may not be >> alive >> anymore, chances are that the family is still living in the house >> that >> they built in Germany after their expulsion. Therefore, that >> person's >> family still might be able to help you. >> Aida >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------------------- >> >> On 9/19/09, Arianwen <arianwen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> Hi, I'm looking for more information on my Oma's family. >>> >>> Her mother was Emma Lihl, from Neuhaus, born in the 1890s, who >>> emigrated >> to >>> New York sometime in the 1910s. She had at least one sister, >>> Hannelore >> Lihl, >>> who lived in Carlsbad, and my grandmother Eleanore Beu and her >>> brother >>> Rudolf Beu lived with her in Carlsbad for a few years around >>> 1930. Does >>> anyone have any info about the Lihls? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Anna >>> German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Egbhs/> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:31:35 -0700 >> From: Aida Kraus <birchbaylady(a)gmail.com&gt; >> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Lihl Family Of Neuhaus >> To: german-bohemian(a)rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <ca12d4250909191431i6d383e9ib7e1520ab6df648a(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Anna, if it be the Neuhaus I think it is, I want to let you know >> that >> I happen to know this Neuhaus area North of Neudeck and Carlsbad >> VERY >> well, because the next larger ski-tourist village was Neuhammer and >> Hirschenstand in the Ore Mountains where we always stayed; it is >> practically on the border with Saxony. If it is THAT Neuhaus your >> grandma came from, it was a mountain village of only 440 German >> inhabitants in a wooded area with hills and mountain-meadows on all >> sides. We did a lot of skiing up there in my youth, hiking and >> mushroom hunting as well, and even though these villages no longer >> exist, they are very alive in my mind. I found them easily enough on >> old maps. While you might have trouble finding it on the www.mapy.cz >> site, get back to me and I will send you a clipping from another >> map. >> These mountain villages are situated on the sunny Southern Slope of >> the Ore Mountains along the Saxony Bohemian Border. Most of the >> inhabitants there worked in selective tree harvesting or for a >> sawmill, if they were not catering to tourists. The women were busy >> with home crafts, like "Kl?ppeln" which is lace making and sewing >> leather goods! What I remember best is, that everybody was always >> humming or singing. They stoked their fires with "Torf" which is >> dried black peat from the bogs and this gave the entire area a very >> fragrant, smoky scent. During their afternoon teatime at 4 pm >> everything stood still, they sat around their scrubbed tables with a >> mug of tea with rum and honey plus a slab of rye bread with pork >> cracklings....... I can still smell and taste it! Perhaps your >> grandma told you! >> Aida >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> On 9/19/09, Arianwen <arianwen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> Hi, I'm looking for more information on my Oma's family. >>> >>> Her mother was Emma Lihl, from Neuhaus, born in the 1890s, who >>> emigrated >> to >>> New York sometime in the 1910s. She had at least one sister, >>> Hannelore >> Lihl, >>> who lived in Carlsbad, and my grandmother Eleanore Beu and her >>> brother >>> Rudolf Beu lived with her in Carlsbad for a few years around >>> 1930. 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