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Rhonda, Carole, Lou, HMMMMnn, While I don't have WALLISCH in my
direct line, I have two associated references in the Wallisch name.
One is my third cousin, who had given me all her genealogy besides
what we shared. In return, I found a marrige record for her in St.
Paul for 1912 for her ancestor George Wallisch, son of John Wallisch
and Julia Koelndorfer -- which says he was baptized in South Bend,
Indiana. But I also have someone now living in Germany who I feel is
related, who has Wallisch in her genealogy, too. Linda
Hi List, As Karen states, this is not an advertisement for the site,
just passing on what I have found. The Genealogy Library.com has been
worth the subscription price. I have found so much info from Colonial
America and New England States, Indiana, Illinois, and more. The data
is weak however, for other countries, with only 1 database for the
Netherlands, 1 for Canadian History. Most of the databases are full
books, but beware of typos. The census pages are a little slow to load,
but saves you a lot of time over ordering film and going to the library.
The images are much better than those found from CD's, and can be
printed darker or lighter to improve legibility.
If you have specific questions, please feel free to e-mail me.
I am trying to use the Czech telephone directory to get an idea of how
common and where the names Peshina and Svec are. I am fluent in German,
but Czech is just too different.
Here is the URL I am using:
The homepage will translate into English but not the actual telephone
I just mainly need to know which is the first name field, which the last
(family) name and which fields are required. I think I can understand
names and addresses, if any show. I keep getting an error message, but
I can't read any of it to get a glimmer of what I am doing incorrectly.
Rhonda & Carole:
I was MOST interested in your mention of the WALLISCH Family --- I have
WALLESCH / WALLISCH / WALISCH families in Germanyin the Bitburg area
(near the Luxembourg border), just north of Trier - in the villages of
Mettendorf and Sinspelt - but not Bohemia.
In fact, my grandfather, Hubert WALLESCH, was born in Mettendorf and
settled in Mankato, MN in the 1890's. In researching the family, I've
found the 3 above spellings --- with the following firstnames: Michael,
Matthias, Johannes, Simon, Nikolaus, Philip, Susanna, Katharina (and
many more females names). Some of the names married into the
WALLESCH/WALLISCH family were RAUSCH, HANSEN, KRIPPES, HAAG, ZEYEN,
Does any of this sound familiar to anyone?
Lou Bradshaw in San Antonio
> Dear Carole,
> I have in my ancestry:
> 1. Anna Maria WALLISCHIN o 7 Jan 1804 at Nyrsko (formerly Unterneuern),
> Bohemia X 13 Feb 1832 at Nyrsko to Josef HACKL o 11 Jun 1803 Nyrsko. Anna
> Maria was the daughter of
> 2. Johann WALLISCH X Katharina GROSSKOPFIN. Johann was the son of
> 3. Johann Georg WALLISCH from Oberneuern, Bohemia X Ursula STEGERIN
> I do not know where the places are that you mentioned in your email; Nyrsko
> is quite near the Austrian border. I am very interested in learning more
> about your Wallisch family as it appears that our two families may be
> Rhonda S. Donat
> Columbus, Ohio
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> Visit the German-Bohemian Heritage Society Web Page!
At one of the CSGSI Conferences, Leo said that he included Czech names
even if they indicated Austria as place of origin as well as people who
listed Bohemia or Moravia as their place of origin, even if their name
did not seem particularly Czech. Some people may slip thru the cracks,
or the records are unreadable, but by and large he has done a great job
of compilation as far as I can tell.
LINDA A THERKELSEN wrote:
> Sorry, that's Leo Baca, Czech Immigration Passenger Lists -- this is
> extracted by where the passengers said they were from. So if they
> wrote "Austria", you're out of luck. It's maybe 6 volumes, not sure
> if LDS Family History Centers have. There are Hamburg passenger
> lists to search, too, these are indexed at LDS centers (passengers
> leaving the port of Hamburg). However, very seldom give more than a
> country of origin, though some ships will surprise you with some
> specific names. Linda
Sorry, that's Leo Baca, Czech Immigration Passenger Lists -- this is
extracted by where the passengers said they were from. So if they
wrote "Austria", you're out of luck. It's maybe 6 volumes, not sure
if LDS Family History Centers have. There are Hamburg passenger
lists to search, too, these are indexed at LDS centers (passengers
leaving the port of Hamburg). However, very seldom give more than a
country of origin, though some ships will surprise you with some
specific names. Linda
On May 6th I was informed my resquested research had been completed and
mailed to me and that it was quite extensive. TP Research is the organization
who performed the service. What is considered normal mail time from the CR?
I'm sure I'm just impatient to see the results.
Researching: STEINBACH, LANDKAMMER, WARTA, FROEHLICH, TAUER, KOHOUT, SVOBODA,
TURBA, NEUDECKER, MUELLER, SPOERL, PURKHOLZ, LANDSHUT, WIEDL, SCHROEPFER,
Locations: Ronsperg, Wilkenau, Wenischen, Shiefernau, Hoslau, Natschetin,
Moni, I'd look for Anna Nettie's marriage record at, I'm assuming
here, the Catholic church. Also Emily's - a parish or village where
she was baptized may be listed, sometimes on one and not the other.
You may want to check the 1900 census which will give you Emily's age
and birth COUNTRY. It is possible that the Declaration of Intent
papers will give a birthplace -- you get these at the county court
where they were naturalized if they were naturalized. However, they
could be naturalized in any court, so they are not always there!
Passenger lists might help if you know an EASTERN port where they
came in, e.g., New York, Baltimore, etc. There is a set of books of
passengers from Bohemia, but only if they wrote that, and also
Germans to America, which you can go throuogh -- you will need to
find a library which has these. But your best records of all will
usually be church records.... Linda
I have just joined this list, although I have been active on 2 other
Part of my husband's family probably came from German Bohemia. On the
Social Security application of his grandmother, only Bohemia is listed.
Anna Nettie Peshina born April 1884 in Bohemia. At least one sister
Emily, younger and we think also still born in Bohemia.
Parents Joseph Peshina and Mary Svec. No dates known.
Emigrated around the mid 1890's to the US, probably came in through
Chicago, but this isn't known for certain.
If any of this rings a bell or if anyone has any suggestions on how to
procede, let me know.
I have in my ancestry:
1. Anna Maria WALLISCHIN o 7 Jan 1804 at Nyrsko (formerly Unterneuern),
Bohemia X 13 Feb 1832 at Nyrsko to Josef HACKL o 11 Jun 1803 Nyrsko. Anna
Maria was the daughter of
2. Johann WALLISCH X Katharina GROSSKOPFIN. Johann was the son of
3. Johann Georg WALLISCH from Oberneuern, Bohemia X Ursula STEGERIN
I do not know where the places are that you mentioned in your email; Nyrsko
is quite near the Austrian border. I am very interested in learning more
about your Wallisch family as it appears that our two families may be
Rhonda S. Donat
This is not a solicitation for Genealogy Library. This posting is forwarded
because I thought list members might be interested in the site it describes.
I have not yet visited the site myself. Karen
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I think I recall someone posting interest in the surname, Sembera.
Today I was searching the OCLC World Catalog for books by Ladislav Hosak and
I came across one: Historicky mistopis zeme Moravskoslezske which had a
notation which I cannot read:
"Accompanied by Mapa zeme Moravske. S castmi pohranicnymi Slezska, Cech,
Rajous i Uher. Sestavil a vydal Alois Vojtech Sembera. Ve Vidni, 1881 (On 4
Then under the heading OTHER: it had the name Sembera, Alois Vojtech,
I have the impression that Sembera was a geographer/map maker?
I have a short sentence in very poor handwriting that was written in
the mid-19th century by a person from Prague. I'm trying to find a
person who could at a minimum tell me the language it is and hopefully
somebody who could translate it. I have a jpeg image of it if anybody
out there would like to take a look at it.
I requested copies of the records three times while having research
conducted as a "running account". Only once did I actually receive the
photocopies. I guess it depends on their mood...
> Hi Ron,
> What I did was request copies AND translation, plus birth, death, and
> marriage certificates for my ggf, his parents, and "other family
> members". I put a limit of $150 US. I guess they decided to use all
> the money to go back as far as they could before the limit was used up,
> rather than use the end of the funding for translation. I have sent
> copies of the running account to a couple of family members who can read
> some Czech, and who also have contacts with more proficiency than they.
> So, among all of us, we should "get there". I'm happy to have gotten
> generations back as far as I did.
> Also, from the CGSI web site info, if you want copies of birth, death
> and marriage certificates you are to write to the Czech Embassy in
> Washington, so I guess that if you request a running account PLUS copies
> from the archive in Praha, you will not get copies too. If someone else
> on the list can confirm or contradict that, please do.
> John Fiala
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If you live in Wisconsin it is very likely that there is a connection.
I will tell you all I know which isn't much about the Vlcek side of my family.
My garndfather Pavel Bondora MARRIED Paulina Vlcek on Nov. 11, 1906
they married in Petrovice, Slovakia both were born in a town called
Setechove ( a village within Petrovice )
Paulina's parents were
Juraj Vlcek & Magdalena Cucakova (spelling may be wrong)
I know that Paulina had a brother named Stefan Vlcek I am sure there were
many more siblings but I only know of one.
Stefan Vlcek married Pavel Bondoras (my grandfather) sister Anna Bondora
Married date 05/30/1905
They had three children ( probably lots more) that I know of.
Ilona Maria Vlcek b. 11/04/1907 Anna Vlcek b. 05/15/1911
Paulina b.????????? All born in Petrovice, Slovakia
Stefan & Anna immigrated to the US taking only 2 children with them leaving
the oldest behind.
They moved to Wisconsin and work and lived there until they had
enough money to return to Europe to purchase a Walnut Farm from
( this is where it gets complicated)
Grandmother in Europe. Whether the grandmother was a
BONDORA , or a SEBENA,
However to further complicate matters the Bondora or Sebena's or
moved to Kenosha Wisconsin also.
Paulina Vlcek married Karol Sebena immigrated to Wisconsin
Maria Vlcek married Imrich chromcik immigrated to Wisconsin
Sorry I am confuised as to what relationship the Karol Sebena was.
You see I had a Great grandfather who married a Sebena.
If you can sort out this mess and figure it out or find out more please let
My garndparents finally settled in Chicago, Illinois on the South Side. I do
know that there are still some relatives living in Kenosha but they do not
answer or want to be contacted so I have hit a OOO there.
Sincerely Bonnie Bondora Syler
Thanks for contacting me. I tried to look up the "recte" & "Mates"
in both my Slovak & Czech dictionary but I could not find either. I thought
maybe it was Sailor or shipmate but ???
Here are the names I have associated with my family name of BONDORA .
Krstni rodicia = Christening or godparents
Svedkovia = MARRIAGES WITNESSES
My G G Grandfather Juraj Bondora married Katherina Hricovec
11/18/1884 in Petrovice,
My G. Grandfather Juraj Bondora II married Anna Sebena
05/05/1877 in Petrovice,
My Grandfather Pavel Bondora married Paulina Vlcek
11/11/1906 in Petrovice,
her parents were Juraj Vlcek and Magda Cicut or Cucakova????
That is the extent of the knowledge I have on my grandmother Vlcek.
The area of Petrovice is now in Velka Bytca providences
Petrovice is the major town, they lived in Setechove a small town inside of
This whole area was part of Trencin ,Hungary until after WW II.
Please keep me in mind if you should find more information on either of our
families. Thank You Bonnie Bondora Syler
Hi! I'm researching my husband's great-grandfather, whose name was SUSAK
believe this has been anglicized, it may have been SWEIZAK or something
akin to that). He was born 27 May 1858 in Galicia (helpful, eh? <g>),
and was the son (according to his death record) of Johan SUSAK and
Katherine KUPOT/KABOT/KUBOT (have seen it spelled all three ways). He
was of Bohemian ancestry, but married a Polish girl, Mary (or Marianna)
DZIALOWSKA between 1884 and 1886 in Galicia.
The only clue I have to a village name is the name "Barovia", which I
suspect has been highly anglicized, and to be honest, I have no idea
where my husband's aunt heard it. But I keep clinging to it, as I have
no ship's list to try and glean where they came from (they probably came
into New York, and the range of years I have for them (3 in total--diff.
members of the family came at different times) covers about 48 ROLLS of
unindexed microfilm! AHHHHH!!!! :-) Their naturalizations were prior to
1906 when family information would have been recorded on their papers
(though I don't have even those).
Any help that any of you could give me would be much appreciated!
Mary Kathryn Kozy
Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe
Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe
South King Co. Genealogical Society web page: