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G-B Listers my apologies. I neglected to give you an e-mail address in my
query. Please respond to me at the following e-mail address
Kurt J. Kremlick, Jr.
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Greetings listers! Can anyone help me locate any Kremlicka in the CR! My
family came to the US in 1866 or 67. In the searching I have done over
the years I have been able to identify three towns they may have come
from. 1) Prague according to my Father who over 25 years ago had to
really stretch his memory to come up with any information for me about
our family. 2) Tyn n Vltavou based on the thinnest piece of evidence my
great uncle left me and 3) Pocatky but a friend has told me that there
are 3 or 4 such towns. The one I find on my 1999 AAA map is east of Tyn n
In my searching over the years I have discovered that there were/are
Kremlicka in all 3 towns noted above but no one seems to be able to put
me in touch with anyone who knows anything about the Jacob Kremlicka
family. (Wife Josephine and a son Joseph and daughter Mary who were born
in Bohemia, my grandfather and his younger sister were born in Detroit.)
Don't even really know my gt grandmother's maiden name!!
I have not yet tried the achieves but don't want to use a shot gun
approach. Suggestions appreciated. I do have the names of some CR
genealogists but again don't want to jump in unless I have to or have
some clear direction.
To make matters more interesting Leo Baca's books do not list my family
as coming in through any USA ports. That means they must have come in via
Canada. Any suggestions on which port to look at first? They probably
left either from Hamburg or the other port in Germany which I can't
remember at the moment.
To make matters even more interesting there are not many Kremlick's (with
or without the final "a") in the USA. The ones I know about don't seem
to be related. Others don't respond to snail mail inquiries.
So now my request for some wisdom from the G-B listers. Any suggestions
will be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance Kurt J. Kremlick, Jr.
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Many thanks to all those who responded to my questions about the southern WI
historical library and research in that area. I will be following up on the
replies as soon as I can. One of the responses made me think I should search
in Dubuque, IA, first because it would be easier.
A response reminded me that Dubuque, IA, is right across the river from
Prairie du Chein, WI. My family lore says the family was in IA before
settling down in Sibley, Co., MN, but the marriage of a daughter took place in
Prairie du Chein in 1872 indicating that was where they lived. I cannot find
the family on the 1870 census for Prairie du Chein and now I am wondering if
they may have been living in Dubuque. I will get the Dubuque census and look
for them before checking Milwaukee census. I shouldn't need to find a name
in a city directory to find the right census ward for Dubugue (I hope).
In the meantime, I am still looking for the marriage of a son that probably
took place before the daughter's marriage in 1872. Are there any list
members from Dubuque who could tell me the names / addresses of Roman Catholic
parishes where German-Bohemian immigrants would have had weddings?
I would also like to know if anyone could tell me it it would be common
practice for someone living in Dubuque to be married in Prairie du Chein in
The following information may be of interest to list members who are free to
travel at a moment's notice and who would like to spend a week in the Czech
Republic from time to time. There are sites on the internet where you can
subscribe to airline mailing lists and get notices about last-minute specials.
The notice that came in this morning includes very attractive fares to Prague.
I have cut a lot of information because regular mailing lists are not supposed
to post advertisements. If anyone wants more information, please contact me
and I will forward the entire message.
>> Destinations in Europe are available for departures on
04/07/99 and 04/08/99 with returns on 04/13/99.
Prague, Czech Republic............................ $259
>From - New York-John F. Kennedy, NY:
Prague, Czech Republic............................ $239
Dear Folks, My apologies for my repost error of the 25th. My 90 year old
German-Bohemian father Martin Zuber had just had a stroke and I wasn't in
my right mind.
The intervening days have been spent in the hospital, hoping he'll reach
his 91st birthday on April 21st. He is the last "patriarch" of our Zuber
family until my brother starts getting a little creakier.
I am still hoping to present my parents with a published Family Book before
it's too late. I thank all of you for the help given so far - quite a bit
of new US information came in as a result, but I'm still waiting for the
overseas stuff and Parish records. When I have more I'll pass it on. Thanks
again, - Lowry
I am looking for a good map of Bohemia which would clearly define the borders
in about 1850. One that is superimposed on a current map would be great but
The only map I have found online was too fuzzy to read. Anyone have
suggestions where I could find a better one?
While at a Czech genealogical conference in Chicago over the weekend I picked
up a brochure for the Lower Wisconsin River Genealogical and Historical
The places it mentions are: Spring Green, Lone Rock, Gotham, Avoca, Muscoda,
Orion, Blue River Boscobel, Woodman, Port Andrew, Boydtown, Bridgeport,
Prairie du Chein and Wauzeka.
The address of the center is P O BOX 202, Wauzeka, WI, 53826-0202.
Membership is $10 per year and includes four newsletters.
The brochure refers to other resources in the area as: Crawford Couty
Courthouse, Prairie du Chien; Wisconsin Room, Univ. of WI at Platteville,
Karrman library: Hildebrand Memorial Library, Boscobel; Prairie du Chien
Library, 125 Wacouta Ave., Prairie du Chien.
There is no email address or mention of help with research for those living
outside the area. There is a request for volunteers in various fields that
include: cemetery records, newsletters, library, church history, school
history, surname index, oral history, local history, hospitality, program and
grants and donations.
My own German-Bohemian ancestors were in Prairie du Chien for a few years when
they first arrived in America and when I searched for them on the 1870 census
I found about fifty families there who were from Bohemia, all living close
together. Although I did not find my ancestors on the census I did get a
copy of a record of a marriage of one of them that took place in Prairie du
Chien. I knew about the marriage from an obituary and wrote to the church.
Does anyone know what Bohemians did to earn a living while in Prairie du
Chein? Was there much work associated with lumber or lumber transport on the
river back in the 1870s?
I would like to know if any of our list members belong to the Lower Wisconsin
River Genealogical and Historical Research Center and are acquainted with the
I would also like to know if any list members are from Milwaukee or belong to
a German or Bohemian genealogical society for that city. I would like to
know what kinds of resources are available there to isolate the areas of the
city in which the German-Bohemians settled during the 1860s. I am searching
for Germans from Bohemia in particular and the parish churches that were in
their neighborhoods. (Wenzel Frank, a butcher, and his father, Jakob Frank
--also a butcher --and brother Martin Frank and a sister, Mary Frank who
married Johann Bregel, possibly in Milwaukee). All the Franks eventually
moved to St. Paul -- they are in the city directory for about 1872 -- and then
to near New Ulm, MN).
I know an old Milwaukee city directory dated before 1870-71 might name that
family or at least one of the family members with an address and thus a parish
where they lived. Could someone give me an address of a library or other
source where there are people who could search for that information in a city
directory for me?
There is a possibility that some of the older parishes in Milwaukee have had a
centennial and published a history of the parish that would include
information about where the parishoners came from. Is there a historical
society or other library that would have copies of Milwaukee parish centennial
Hello: I am having trouble locating the town names Susicich and Vidzic,
which were in County Chrudim in the mid 1800's. These names appear on birth
certificates. Does anyone know if these towns still exist or if their names
have changed? Thank you very much in advance, Carolyn Carter
One of the military history mailing lists posted this reply to a query for
large-scale maps of Germany and Poland (Silesia, Galicia) before 1950. It
may be of interest to list members because it refers to modern maps in a scale
of 1:50,000 which means that you can see individual buildings, foot paths and
fields. The German maps are even larger scale with 1:25000 and 1:5000
mentioned. If any list members should obtain any of these maps we would
appreciate hearing your comments about them on the list.
<< Two replies below: -ed
Submitted by: Richard Raiber
Concerning inquiry concerning the availability of large-scale maps of
Germany and Poland:
Maps which show Germany and Poland as they were in the 1930s and 1940s
scale 1:25,000 are available in the AMS (Army Map Service) collection in
RG 77 at Archives II, College Park, Maryland. There are also many city
plans in larger scale as well as in the smaller scale of 1:50,000 and
1:100,000. Most were British General Staff copies of the 4-centimeter
Messtischblaeter published by the Germans. These maps were the standard
used by the Allied armies in WW 2.
The very helpful people at Archives II will make copies -- every bit as
good as the originals except for color -- at approximately $5 each.
Everyone seriously interested in what happened in WW 2 should know about
the availability of these extremely valuable maps.
R. Raiber, M.D. tel.: 302 994 0445
102 Sheffield Drive
Hockessin, DE 19707-1701 raiber(a)udel.edu
Submitted by: Sabina Vogel
Sehr geehrter Herr Roseman,
in der Kartenabteilung der Staatsbibliothek Preussischer Kulturbesitz
zu Berlin gibt es zum einen Messtischblaetter von Deutschland in den
Grenzen von 1937 und angrenzenden Gebieten im Massstab
1:25.000, die in den 30er Jahren aktualisiert worden sind. Fuer
einige Regionen ist auch die Deutsche Grundkarte im Massstab
1:5.000 vorhanden, die ebenfalls in den 30er Jahren ergaenzt wurde.
Ich koennte mir vorstellen, da=DF es auch in den Kartenabteilungen
anderer grosser Bibliotheken oder eventuell in Militaerhistorischen
Forschungaemtern diese sehr detaillierten Karten gibt.
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Forwarded from the Germanica-lorn list:
<< Video: OSTEREIER UND OSTERBRAUCHTUM, Color, 30 min.
1993, Order Nr. EB 23
Hans Dieter Reichert of Treffpunkt (Su"dwestdeutscher Rundfunk, Stuttgart)
takes us to the Easter Egg Museum (Osterei-Museum) Sonnenbu"hl, an old
schoolhouse, converted in 1985 into a museum. Through exhibits and
demonstrations the story of Easter customs comes to life.
You can learn how to blow out an egg and observe different ways of
decorating it. These range from the very delicate knotting technique
for a lace-covered egg, from etching and painting, to the dying and
decorating with natural products, such as onion skins and walnut
shells, as done in earlier times.
The custom and art of painting eggs was begun by the "Sorben," a Slavic
minority of some 150,000 in Brandenburg and Saxony, and was perfected by
the Hessians. The Hessians have become veritable specialists in this
tradition. Not only are their eggs beautifully decorated, the Hessian
Easter egg also shows verses and sayings, inscribed in beautiful penmanship.
How did the egg come to Easter? In the Middle Ages it was forbidden to eat
eggs during the 40 days of Lent. This led to the custom of the "Fastnachts-
hu"hner" (Fasnet chicken) which were butchered either as a tax/duty to the
Manor Lord or as a festive food, right before Ash Wednesday. However, the
hens that were left, kept laying eggs and out of the resulting glut, the
Easter egg tradition was born. Thus Easter egg traditions abound in many
areas of the world.
Like newborn nature, newly hatched chicks became a symbol for the
resurrection and for Easter. Eggs, decorated with religious themes,
would tell of the Easter story.
Numerous Easter games involve the egg: "Eiersuchen" (Easter egg hunt),
"Eierwerfen" (throwing eggs), "Eierticken" (the egg that does not break,
gets the broken one). "Eierlaufen" (egg running) is shown on the video.
The Osterhase (Easter bunny), introduced to Easter in 1682 by Georg Frank,
Prof. of Medicine in Heidelberg, is still readily believed by children.
A permanent exhibit at Sonnenbu"hl includes simple and very precious eggs
from many areas of the world. One section is dedicated to the sacred,
another to folk customs. Also displayed are Kulteier (cult eggs).
Publications on the topic are available from:
Osterei-Museum Sonnenbu"hl, Erpfingen 72820, Germany
The video is available from: German Language Video Center
7625 Pendleton Pike, Indianapolis, IN 46226
1+317-547-1257; FAX 1+3175471263
Max Kade German-American Center
Indiana Univ.-Purdue Univ. Indianapolis
I am researching my grandfather's family. He was born in Daruvar,
Yugoslavia in 1893 to Franjo Veltruski and Marija Ledvinka. My
grandfather's name was Josef Veltruski. He immigrated to the U.S. in
1913 by stowing away on a ship to America.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone have any information regarding the Belina and Bruno families that
used to live in Langentriebe(Dlouha Trebova) Bohemia?....This town is SE of
Usti nad Orlici.
The Belina family came to southern Minnesota in 1863 and settled in the rural
area south of Owatonna, MN along with several other families from the same
area of Bohemia, including the following:
Kaplan, Fischer, Rypka, Skalicky, Sykora, Kubista, Pirkl, Stancl, Kaspar,
I'm searching for informations about "Ernst WEICHHERZ" or WEICHHERTZ
perhaps with the additional christian-name "Ernst *Ammon* WEICHHERZ". or
Born between 1900 - 1902 in "Oestrau" (Boehmen/Maehren?), student
1923/24 in Altenburg/Thüringen.
Thanks for any help.
Listmaster, my apologies for breaking the rules with this posting, but this is
very real and has the potential to bring the Rootsweb servers down with an
overload if all subscribers are not alerted. I felt it was important enough to
break the rules since I have personally confirmed that this is a real bug.
>---------->BEWARE of Word/Melissa Virus<-----------<
There seems to be a malicious intent to outdo every virus with a better one.
This one, which is actually a macro worm, may have succeeded at that, but we can
stop it if we're all aware. Make an exception & post this notice to every list
you subscribe to (make sure it hasn't already been posted there first): this
worm could overload all the listservers from the massive influx of emails that
are propogated by it. It can be confirmed & instructions for eradicating it can
be found at:
This virus is an e-mail word attachment called "list.doc" or ANY .doc file. It
can infect any of the user's current .doc files.
It is called the Word/Melissa macro virus and if you open that document, it will
send fifty  copies of itself to e-mail addresses it takes from your personal
e-mail. It propagates rapidly, faster than happy99.exe...
This virus has already propagated and infected hundreds of thousands of
computers on the internet. The document contains a list of 73 pornographic WEB
sites and usernames and passwords for those sites. The virus started
it's journey in cyberspace on Friday; that's how new it is. (It contains the
text "Password List for March 26, 1999.")
The virus infects e-mail in computers using Word 97 or Word 2000 programs
(according to CERT -Computer Emergency Response Team- Carnegie Mellon's Dept of
Defense [funded] security team)
Government agencies are worried also due to a potential security breach. No one
knows YET who started the virus, and it is spreading faster than happy99.
It is so insideous, it can cram mail systems and cause them to overload and
stop. It spreads exponentially.
Here is what to look for: The subject line for the virus containing e-mail will
contain the infected user's name and reads, "Important message from [user with
whom you've exchanged emails]", so for the unsuspecting, it seems
innocent enough and tricks the recipient into opening the attached documents. If
you get one, DO NOT OPEN IT.
The text in the attached document reads: "Word/Melissa written by Kwyjibo." The
author is obviously a Simpson TV show fan (where Bart Simpson wins a Scrabble
game by spellling the word "Kwyjibo." Then it says,
"Game's over. I'm outta here."
So, be especially watchful of attachments.
I am a beginner in genealogy and a new subscriber. I am searching the
surname SRNSKY (pronounced Sernski). Does anyone have an idea how
Srnsky might have been spelled back in the 1800's? Grandfather
immigrated from Bohemia to the US, but as of yet, I have no dates.
Thanks for your help!
I have struggled with this problem for a long time and
have not proceeded with any research. Thank you for any help.
I need to feel, with certainty, that I know this town's location
and if there is indeed any town at that location today.
Then, where would the records for that town be kept?
Census records of my ancestor(s) reported them as being born
in Austria and Bohemia. They told the family they resided in Engelsberg,
European town seeker says Engelsberg is/was located
77.3 miles west of Vienna, 4800 1443.
The Gazetteer by the US board on Geographic Names says the town is/was
Engelsberg ppl (populated place) located 4800 N 14 43 E 28202 01
Engelsberg ruin located 47 26 N 12 10 E 28208 01
An old gazetteer of 1883, said that Engelsberg was a "town of Austrian
24 miles W.N.W of Troppau, pop 2270."
I have not located the name Engelsberg on ANY map.
I need to write for parish records. I need to find out what archives
would have information.
Thank you to anyone who can help me.
I am passing on the information I received from my
inquiry last week about libraries for Czech resources.
This website contains links for libraries with Czech/Slovak
collections. It is a page at the website of the National
Czech Slovak Museum and Library in Cedar Rapids, IA.
Thank you again to all who responded to my question.
http://www.ncsml.org/links.htm#Research Libraries with Czech or Slovak
The official LDS web page (www.lds.org) says nothing more specific than
that a beta release will happen this spring or summer and no futher
information is available at this time. They have said that they do not
want to over-promise anything and I guess want to see what's actually
possible before saying anything definite. I'm sure they will announce it
on the church web site as well as the other places on the internet as soon
as it is up and running. BTW, next weekend is the church's semiannual
general (worldwide) conference, and new genealogical arrangements (details
on PAF, new CD-ROMs, new resources) are sometimes discussed, among other
things. Personally, I hope it happens soon!
At 04:29 AM 3/28/99 -0500, LSook(a)aol.com wrote:
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