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I just wanted to step in (for what may be my only venture into this
discussion) and respond to some of Joe B's comments and ideas, as well
as bring up some of my own.
Rootsweb's initial mission was exactly the same as the USGenWeb
project- to keep internet genealogy free (and legal). This was prior
to their being bought out in 2000, so obviously the rules have changed
(and I'm sure MyFamily changed a lot of the wording once they got a
hold of things). MyFamily.com has become a sort of a "Ma Bell" of the
online genealogy community, and so it does warrant a close look at
things to see if it might be time for us to cut our ties. If I'm not
mistaken, all or nearly all of the county/state sites were up and
active *before* the sellout/buyout of Rootsweb in 2000. Since they
have been passed down from coordinator to coordinator, it has just
been easier to refresh and maintain existing sites rather than remove
them entirely and set them up on other hosting services. But there are
some who have done this, so it's not impossible- but for the rest of
us it would be a large undertaking on a grand scale. If we did this,
would it be best to do it in phases? What problems might we encounter?
Should we all jump ship to one single provider (like Google), or might
it be better to scale down and offer a handful of possible providers
(preferably non-genealogy related)? Would there be any chance of the
same things occurring over again as far as user-submitted data and it
being exploited for someone else's monetary gain?
Wasn't there a similar issue with user-submitted family tree data and
Ancestry initially charging for that (and then changing their policies
to make it into a free-access family tree database)? Since the GenWeb
project is, after all, essentially 100% user-submitted data (and
design), do they have a right to create any kind of free access/search
engine results to provide access to that data for anyone using their
site? They probably do, and if that bothers us, we need to do
something about it.
If Rootsweb wants their logo on USGenWeb pages, it makes perfect sense
that Ancestry will follow too (notice the Ancestry logo side-by-side
with the Rootsweb logo at the top of Rootsweb pages already). Do we
want to open ourselves up to that possibility? I'm not a big fan of
that idea. Is Rootsweb expecting every free page they host
(non-USGenWeb related) to incorporate their logo in a masthead?
Probably not. Why? Maybe because *we* are such a huge force in online
genealogy (at least I believe we are) that they want a piece of us.
Something that should be looked at is Rootsweb's "Acceptable Use
Policy" which can be found here:
http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html
Here are some choice segments from the Ters and Conditions that made
me raise my eyebrows- wondering if it is really "safe" to continue
with their service:
"...Your use of the Service indicates that you are bound by this
agreement with us. If you don't agree with any of these terms and
conditions, don't use the Service. We may alter this agreement at our
discretion and your continued use after any change indicates your
acceptance of that change. If you don't want to be bound by a change,
discontinue use of the Service.
...Limited Use LICENSE
You are licensed to use the Content only for personal or professional
family history research, and may download Content only as search
results relevant to that research. The download of the whole or
significant portions of any work or database is prohibited. Resale of
a work or database or portion thereof, except as specific results
relevant to specific research for an individual, is prohibited. On
line or other republication of Content is prohibited except as unique
data elements that are part of a unique family history or genealogy.
Violation of this License may result in immediate termination of your
membership and may result in legal action for injunction, damages or
both. ... [Are they bound by this agreement as well??]
...User-Provided Content
Portions of the Service will contain user-provided content, to which
you may contribute appropriate content (the "Submitted Content") For
this Content, the submitter is the owner, and RootsWeb.com is only a
distributor. By submitting Submitted Content to RootsWeb.com, you
grant MyFamily.com, Inc., the corporate host of the Service, a limited
license to the Submitted Content to use, host, and distribute that
Submitted Content and allow hosting and distribution on co-branded
Services of that Submitted Content. You should submit only content
which belongs to you and will not violate the property or other rights
of other people or organizations. MyFamily.com, Inc. is sensitive to
copyright and other intellectual property rights of others. For more
information concerning copyright issues, view our corporate policy.
Content submitted for the purpose of commercial use, advertising or
fee for service is prohibited. ...
...Because some states/jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or
limitation of liability for consequential or incidental damages, this
limitation may not apply in part to you. IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH
ANY PORTION OF THIS WEB SERVICE, OR WITH ANY OF THESE TERMS OF USE,
YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY IS TO DISCONTINUE USING THIS WEB
SERVICE...."
I did not alter any of that- just copied and pasted it here. The note
in brackets is mine.
I currently have my own Google Pages that I use for family genealogy,
and have been using Google's Page Creator to put it together. I don't
know how that page creator will work for others- so just uploading the
pages as-is might be best. But I would have a concern about how to
establish all of the county/state/archives pages we would need to have
without working out an arrangement with Google. If the usernames and
passwords will be passed down to future coordinators, then a specific
agreement might need to be worked out in order to do that. I think
that might cut into a "misrepresentation/impersonation" conflict if
the registration info no longer applies to a new coordinator (how
could we create pages not tied to a person's name in any way?).
I apologize for the length of this, but wanted to sort out my thoughts
and see what others felt about all this. This is a potentially huge
shift for the Projects, but maybe it will turn out to be a worthwhile
undertaking. I come at this from the perspective of a long-time
USGenWeb user as well as an Ancestry.com subscriber. USGenWeb is more
personal than Ancestry and will only increase in value as time goes on
(especially as the Census Project continues). I dream of the day when
I won't need to subscribe to Ancestry.com, because all of the info
they charge for will finally end up on the web for free (at USGenWeb
and at other archival sources -like Universities- who don't/can't
charge for their data). As we grow stronger, Ancestry might grow
weaker, because if they can't legally monopolize documents and data
then it is only a matter of time before someone else (like a
volunteer) gets to it and provides access to the information for free.
Thank you for your time on this, and for everyone coming out to voice
their concerns and ideas.
Belinda Slocumb
Stewart and Webster CC, GAGenWeb
This is my first time to post on this discussion.
I went through 149 pieces of e-mail that contained a lot of
discussion that seemed to provide some valid questions to
be answered but it would seem to me that most of that
should be discussed once a tentative decision was made
about moving the National Site and before actually moving
it so that SC's and CC's could decided what direction they
needed to take.
There are several areas of concern to me as the GAGENWeb
Peach County Coordinator:
First, I inherited a site and have spent many hours working on
that site to make it more functional. I did post a copyright
notice in my name only because the SC said to do it when
updating the e-mail links. Actually all the material on the
site was not my contribution and I do not think I own it.
If I have to leave the site the new CC will have all the code
and work I put into it because that is what I want to happen.
Second, when I first started doing Genealogy Research I
became very stymied because Ancestry seemed to own
virtually all the databases. At that time I was not aware of
USGENWeb and it sites. I ended up having to pay a
month's subscription to Ancestry and when it was over did
not renew it. I live off a Social Security check and could
not afford to buy my own site.
Which leads me to number Three: After my experiences
starting out in Genealogy I absolutely think that we need
to move everything off rootsweb (national, state, and county)
and find something not associated with Ancestry. I really
think that move followed by publicity about it would bring
more _/*new researchers online*/_ because they would not have
to pay for it.
Finally, while I admit Google is a big conglomerate, has
anyone thought about approaching them with this kind
of idea??? Sure we might have some ads when they look
us up but what they offer is for free!!! Free search!!!!!
I would almost bet they would take us up on it and
establish a new Genealogy Portion as a part of Google.
Joe Borderieux Peach County Coordinator
-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:00 PM
To: usgenweb-sw(a)rootsweb.com; usgenweb-nw(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-ne(a)rootsweb.com; state-coord(a)rootsweb.com; board(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-se(a)rootsweb.com; usgenweb-all(a)rootsweb.com;
discuss(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] Call for Web master
*****Please forward to USGenWeb Project lists*****
The USGenWeb Project is recruiting a web master to maintain
its USGenWeb Project National pages. Volunteers should have these
qualifications:
1. Strong demonstrated knowledge and understanding of HTML
and CSS [Cascading Style Sheets];
2, Knowledge of FTP software;
3. Understanding of the USGenWeb mission and goals;
4, Member of the USGenWeb Project with a minimum of six
months as a member in good standing;
5. Ability to spend at least one day a month on site maintenance and
upkeep. This time will be spread over the course of a month to assure
that updates are completed in a timely fashion;
6. Ability to respond in a timely manner to requests for updates as
needed.
If you are interested, please send a short statement of
your qualifications and a minimum of three reference urls
for the Advisory Board to consider. Please send your qualifications to
Tina Vickery tsvickery(a)gmail.com
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Applications will remain open through Wednesday, September
19, 2007.
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These type of discussions should not be taking place mainly on
an unarchived list. Unless you subscribe to the list then you have
no idea what the discussions are. And I know that I am not the only
one who does not like being on that USGENWEB DISCUSS list
which is a free for all at best.
Debra Crosby
-----Original Message-----
From: gagen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
To: GAGen-L
Subject: [GAGEN] FW: [STATE-COORD] Contingency Discussions - re:
mastheadnegotiation/discussion
-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:45 PM
To: state-coord(a)rootsweb.com; usgenweb-sw(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-nw(a)rootsweb.com; usgenweb-ne(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com; board(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-se(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] Contingency Discussions - re:
mastheadnegotiation/discussion
In conjunction with the masthead negotiations/discussions, the Board and
I feel that a contingency discussion is also prudent to have.
I offer the below as discussion points only. We welcome
all Project members to express their concerns, opinions and
to ask questions.
Please forward to XXGenWeb Project lists.
Again, below is intended as discussion points *only*. Main discussion
will take place on the -Discuss list.
Subscription information is available at:
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Please have courtesy and respect for your peers and the
hosts of our mailing lists as we have this discussion.
If you wish to contact Advisory Board members privately
their names and email addresses are available at:
http://www.usgenweb.com/about/advisoryboard.shtml
Tina Vickery
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
-----------------
Our USGenWeb Project bylaws state:
ARTICLE II. PURPOSE "Section 1. The USGenWeb Project is an organized
group of volunteers working to create an online center for genealogical
research by linking every county in the United States. The purpose of
this organization shall be to gather genealogical and historical
information for free online access by researchers". Key phrase being:
"free online access by researchers".
The bylaws make no reference to which server any member or project of
the USGenWeb Project must use. Long set precedence allows for the use
of "server of one's choice." That choice extends to county, parish,
town, special project, etc., and the USGenWeb National pages.
As a Project, we are at a crossroads. Rootsweb and its
parent company have been a very gracious and accommodating
host for many years. And as a Project we would be remiss
not to appreciate that.
However, some corporate changes and decisions of late have placed the
USGenWeb Project in a tenuous position. We need to evaluate their
business decisions vs. our mission of providing " ... free online access
by researchers."
This is a huge decision and discussion. It is a decision
as to whether or not to stay with our current host. It is
a discussion I feel that must be held in conjunction with
the masthead discussion. It is a discussion and decision
that we must have as the USGenWeb Project community.
The key question for the USGenWeb Project to discuss is:
How important is it that we are seen in the genealogy
community as the "USGenWeb Project .. Land of Free
Genealogy"?
Having answered that question, we need to evaluate many
things. We have three domains: .org, .net and .com
We need to consider hosting, specialized tools [php, db,
etc], maintenance, administration, financing and security,
to name a few. We need to make choices to promote the
growth and future of the USGenWeb Project.
Please understand these concerns are for the *national
pages only*, but I feel a very important discussion to have with the
entire USGenWeb Project membership.
Bottom line is what is best for the USGenWeb Project?
Tina Vickery
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
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-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:45 PM
To: state-coord(a)rootsweb.com; usgenweb-sw(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-nw(a)rootsweb.com; usgenweb-ne(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com; board(a)rootsweb.com;
usgenweb-se(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] Contingency Discussions - re:
mastheadnegotiation/discussion
In conjunction with the masthead negotiations/discussions, the Board and
I feel that a contingency discussion is also prudent to have.
I offer the below as discussion points only. We welcome
all Project members to express their concerns, opinions and
to ask questions.
Please forward to XXGenWeb Project lists.
Again, below is intended as discussion points *only*. Main discussion
will take place on the -Discuss list.
Subscription information is available at:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/USGENWEB-DISCUSS.html
Please have courtesy and respect for your peers and the
hosts of our mailing lists as we have this discussion.
If you wish to contact Advisory Board members privately
their names and email addresses are available at:
http://www.usgenweb.com/about/advisoryboard.shtml
Tina Vickery
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
-----------------
Our USGenWeb Project bylaws state:
ARTICLE II. PURPOSE "Section 1. The USGenWeb Project is an organized
group of volunteers working to create an online center for genealogical
research by linking every county in the United States. The purpose of
this organization shall be to gather genealogical and historical
information for free online access by researchers". Key phrase being:
"free online access by researchers".
The bylaws make no reference to which server any member or project of
the USGenWeb Project must use. Long set precedence allows for the use
of "server of one's choice." That choice extends to county, parish,
town, special project, etc., and the USGenWeb National pages.
As a Project, we are at a crossroads. Rootsweb and its
parent company have been a very gracious and accommodating
host for many years. And as a Project we would be remiss
not to appreciate that.
However, some corporate changes and decisions of late have placed the
USGenWeb Project in a tenuous position. We need to evaluate their
business decisions vs. our mission of providing " ... free online access
by researchers."
This is a huge decision and discussion. It is a decision
as to whether or not to stay with our current host. It is
a discussion I feel that must be held in conjunction with
the masthead discussion. It is a discussion and decision
that we must have as the USGenWeb Project community.
The key question for the USGenWeb Project to discuss is:
How important is it that we are seen in the genealogy
community as the "USGenWeb Project .. Land of Free
Genealogy"?
Having answered that question, we need to evaluate many
things. We have three domains: .org, .net and .com
We need to consider hosting, specialized tools [php, db,
etc], maintenance, administration, financing and security,
to name a few. We need to make choices to promote the
growth and future of the USGenWeb Project.
Please understand these concerns are for the *national
pages only*, but I feel a very important discussion to have with the
entire USGenWeb Project membership.
Bottom line is what is best for the USGenWeb Project?
Tina Vickery
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
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For those interested.
Ed
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From: usgenweb-se-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:usgenweb-se-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Blum-Barton
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:24 PM
To: SEMA Regional List
Subject: [USGW-SE] FW: [ABChat] USGenWeb Project National Mail Lists.
-----Original Message-----
From: usgenweb-all-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:usgenweb-all-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:59 AM
To: usgenweb-all(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [ABChat] USGenWeb Project National Mail Lists.
I have opened up the posting ability to Project members to discuss the
merits and offer constructive suggestions of this draft to all
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For those that wish to participate in this discussion, subscription
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Iassume you know you can use DVD's to back up critical files to. That gives
you 4.7M per disk if you have a DVD burner installed in your computer. I
use Nero to back up critical files to my DVD burner.
John R. Clarke
410 Highland Ave.
Batesburg-Leesville, SC 29006-1311
Phone: 803-604-5189
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. W. Byrd" <deborahbryd(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [GAGEN] data recovery
> yeah it helps, and that should have been remagnetize. As with any media
> that stores data through magnetic media it needs to be regularly
> refreshed,
> to keep it from degrading, and of course since I have joined the ranks of
> those with middle age syndrome, that my story at least, I don't remember
> to
> do so as often as I should. The little harddrive is constantly being
> gaused
> so to speak, so I don't have to drag out the media to it.
>
> Deborah Byrd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
> To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [GAGEN] data recovery
>
>
> I really like the automated back-up idea.
>
> Thanks to all who responded on this issue. I think we helped solve
> the researcher's problem.
>
> GAGenWebbers are the best!
>
> Vivian
>
> At 08:13 PM 9/7/2007, you wrote:
>>I know its a little late, but I have a small portable harddrive, about the
>>size of a credit card holds around 2 gigs that I use for a backup. Uses
>>a
>>USB port got a couple of years ago from Iomega. I use it only for data
>>and
>>photos. I keep it plugged it and have it set to automatically back up any
>>files that change within certain file groups.
>>
>>I can't seem to remember to demagnetized discs every so often which you
>>need
>>to with floppies and CDs and DVDs.
>>
>>Deborah Byrd
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
>>To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
>>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:16 AM
>>Subject: [GAGEN] data recovery
>>
>>
>>Does anyone have experience with data recovery companies in the
>>Atlanta area? Someone contacted me through GAGenWeb "About" asking
>>for help in recovering 10 years of research lost in a computer crash.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Vivian
>>
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I probably do something I shouldn't, but I'd like to hear what you all think. I buy my
writable CDs in those "towers," and after recording I store them on a tower. I have
hundreds of them, and they are stacked without any separation between them. Is this a
problem?
Pat in Gwinnett Co
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. W. Byrd" <deborahbryd(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [GAGEN] data recovery
> yeah it helps, and that should have been remagnetize. As with any media
> that stores data through magnetic media it needs to be regularly refreshed,
> to keep it from degrading, and of course since I have joined the ranks of
> those with middle age syndrome, that my story at least, I don't remember to
> do so as often as I should. The little harddrive is constantly being gaused
> so to speak, so I don't have to drag out the media to it.
>
> Deborah Byrd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
> To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [GAGEN] data recovery
>
>
> I really like the automated back-up idea.
>
> Thanks to all who responded on this issue. I think we helped solve
> the researcher's problem.
>
> GAGenWebbers are the best!
>
> Vivian
>
> At 08:13 PM 9/7/2007, you wrote:
>>I know its a little late, but I have a small portable harddrive, about the
>>size of a credit card holds around 2 gigs that I use for a backup. Uses a
>>USB port got a couple of years ago from Iomega. I use it only for data and
>>photos. I keep it plugged it and have it set to automatically back up any
>>files that change within certain file groups.
>>
>>I can't seem to remember to demagnetized discs every so often which you
>>need
>>to with floppies and CDs and DVDs.
>>
>>Deborah Byrd
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
>>To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
>>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:16 AM
>>Subject: [GAGEN] data recovery
>>
>>
>>Does anyone have experience with data recovery companies in the
>>Atlanta area? Someone contacted me through GAGenWeb "About" asking
>>for help in recovering 10 years of research lost in a computer crash.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Vivian
>>
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>>in
>>the subject and the body of the message
>>
>>
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I really like the automated back-up idea.
Thanks to all who responded on this issue. I think we helped solve
the researcher's problem.
GAGenWebbers are the best!
Vivian
At 08:13 PM 9/7/2007, you wrote:
>I know its a little late, but I have a small portable harddrive, about the
>size of a credit card holds around 2 gigs that I use for a backup. Uses a
>USB port got a couple of years ago from Iomega. I use it only for data and
>photos. I keep it plugged it and have it set to automatically back up any
>files that change within certain file groups.
>
>I can't seem to remember to demagnetized discs every so often which you need
>to with floppies and CDs and DVDs.
>
>Deborah Byrd
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
>To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:16 AM
>Subject: [GAGEN] data recovery
>
>
>Does anyone have experience with data recovery companies in the
>Atlanta area? Someone contacted me through GAGenWeb "About" asking
>for help in recovering 10 years of research lost in a computer crash.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Vivian
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I know its a little late, but I have a small portable harddrive, about the
size of a credit card holds around 2 gigs that I use for a backup. Uses a
USB port got a couple of years ago from Iomega. I use it only for data and
photos. I keep it plugged it and have it set to automatically back up any
files that change within certain file groups.
I can't seem to remember to demagnetized discs every so often which you need
to with floppies and CDs and DVDs.
Deborah Byrd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:16 AM
Subject: [GAGEN] data recovery
Does anyone have experience with data recovery companies in the
Atlanta area? Someone contacted me through GAGenWeb "About" asking
for help in recovering 10 years of research lost in a computer crash.
Thanks,
Vivian
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I went to one in Smyrna. I think folks will find it expensive.
I paid $2,500 for data recovery on one disk.
Don't remember the company name.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael and Vivian Saffold" <msaffold(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <gagen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:16 AM
Subject: [GAGEN] data recovery
> Does anyone have experience with data recovery companies in the
> Atlanta area? Someone contacted me through GAGenWeb "About" asking
> for help in recovering 10 years of research lost in a computer crash.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vivian
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-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:26 PM
To: usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com; state-coord(a)rootsweb.com;
board(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] Negotiations - Masthead for USGenWeb Rootsweb
hostedsites
Please feel free to forward to Project lists.
---
I want everyone to know, that the Board is very receptive
to suggestions, comments, ideas and concerns project members have. The
negotiations are in the infancy stage.
You can contact us privately or post to the Project lists.
The Advisory Board page has been updated to reflect Board members names
and email addresses.
http://www.usgenweb.com/about/advisoryboard.shtml
Tina Vickery
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
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Heres the link for the GA Code
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/htdig/search.htm it may help some?? I don't
know.
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: gagen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Linda Blum-Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:01 PM
To: gagen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Cemetery Laws
Sandy,
Thanks for the reply. I used to have a link to the actual laws that
were passed. I think the link Vivian has shared is closer - I do
remember being confused about the way the Department of Natural
Resources info was broken down on their website. If I find the full
code, I'll share the link here.
Linda B.
-----Original Message-----
From: gagen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com]On
Behalf Of Sandy Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:32 PM
To: gagen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Cemetery Laws
http://sos.georgia.gov/pressrel/pr000323b.htm
This is just a press release. I don't think I have one specific to
abandoned ones.
Sandy
-----Original Message-----
From: gagen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Linda Blum-Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:20 PM
To: GAGEN-L
Subject: [GAGEN] Cemetery Laws
Does anyone have the link to the Georgia laws concerning abandoned
cemeteries handy?
Thanks,
Linda B.
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Sandy,
Thanks for the reply. I used to have a link to the actual laws that were
passed. I think the link Vivian has shared is closer - I do remember being
confused about the way the Department of Natural Resources info was broken
down on their website. If I find the full code, I'll share the link here.
Linda B.
-----Original Message-----
From: gagen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com]On
Behalf Of Sandy Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:32 PM
To: gagen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [GAGEN] Cemetery Laws
http://sos.georgia.gov/pressrel/pr000323b.htm
This is just a press release. I don't think I have one specific to
abandoned ones.
Sandy
-----Original Message-----
From: gagen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:gagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Linda Blum-Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:20 PM
To: GAGEN-L
Subject: [GAGEN] Cemetery Laws
Does anyone have the link to the Georgia laws concerning abandoned
cemeteries handy?
Thanks,
Linda B.
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Thanks,
Linda B.
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This is how it came across the State Coord list I have not deleted
anything just fyi.
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:31 PM
To: usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com; state-coord(a)rootsweb.com;
board(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] Fw: IBC statement.
Forwarded with permission. I have deleted Anna's business card to allow
this post to go through the list.
Please share with USGenWeb Project lists.
Thank you,
Tina Vickery
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
----- Original Message -----
From: Anna Fechter
To: Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: IBC statement.
Tina,
Yes, it is okay to pass this note along. If people would like to
contact me at anna(a)rootsweb.com I can pass along the information along.
I hope all is going well in your new role!
Thank you,
Anna
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From: Tina S. Vickery [mailto:tsvickery@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:08 AM
To: Anna Fechter
Subject: Re: IBC statement.
Thank you very much Anna. May I forward your note to appropiate Project
lists? And who would you like folks to contact if they still have
issues.
I very much appreciate your prompt answer to this concern.
Thank you,
Tina
----- Original Message -----
From: Anna Fechter
To: Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: IBC statement.
Tina,
I saw your comment below regarding the cached pages from the Internet
Biographical Collection that was released briefly last week on
Ancestry.com, and wanted to make sure that you were clear that it has
been completely removed from the site. Below is the latest post on the
topic:
http://blogs.ancestry.com/circle/?p=1792
The collection is not accessible or searchable. We have worked to
make sure that any cached pages have been removed and are not
accessible, even if trying to go back to them with a saved URL. If you
or your members find that there are cached pages that you can still
access, please first try clearing the internet cache on your computer.
If you can still access the cached page after that, please provide us
with the URL so that we can look into the issue further and resolve the
error.
Thanks,
Anna
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From: Tina S. Vickery [mailto:tsvickery@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:38 AM
To: Sean; Anna Fechter; David Graham
Subject: Fw: IBC statement.
FYI.
Tina
----- Original Message -----
From: Tina S. Vickery
To: usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com ; state-coord(a)rootsweb.com ;
board(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: IBC statement.
Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists.
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Good morning all --
There has been much discussion throughout the genealogical
community and USGenWeb Project lists regarding Ancestry's
IBC launch. The USGenWeb Project has been contacted by
TGN, and all correspondence to date regarding this
collection has been shared with the Project. They have
halted and dismantled the collection.
The Advisory Board is also aware of continuing concerns
throughout the Project that cached pages are still being
accessed. The Advisory Board will contact Ancestry for
further clarification of this issue. Thank you all very
much for your patience as we work to answer your concerns.
Tina Vickery
USGenWeb Project
National Coordinator
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-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:06 AM
To: usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com; state-coord(a)rootsweb.com;
board(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] IBC statement.
Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists.
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Good morning all --
There has been much discussion throughout the genealogical community and
USGenWeb Project lists regarding Ancestry's IBC launch. The USGenWeb
Project has been contacted by TGN, and all correspondence to date
regarding this collection has been shared with the Project. They have
halted and dismantled the collection.
The Advisory Board is also aware of continuing concerns throughout the
Project that cached pages are still being accessed. The Advisory Board
will contact Ancestry for further clarification of this issue. Thank
you all very much for your patience as we work to answer your concerns.
Tina Vickery
USGenWeb Project
National Coordinator
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-----Original Message-----
From: state-coord-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:state-coord-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina S. Vickery
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:23 AM
To: usgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com; state-coord(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [STATE-COORD] Fw: Statement on discussion/negotiations -
Mastheadfor USGenWeb Rootweb hosted sites.
Please feel free to forward to appropriate Project lists.
Tina
----- Original Message -----
From: Tina S. Vickery
To: board(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Statement on discussion/negotiations - Masthead for USGenWeb
Rootweb hosted sites.
As some of you may know, I attended the FGS conference in
Fort Wayne, IN in mid-August where the USGenWeb Project
hosted a booth. While there, I had the pleasure of meeting Sean Lloyd
[again], Associate Community Development Manager for rootsweb.com and
Donna Popelish, RootsWeb Help desk Manager.
It was a pleasure to finally meet Donna, who is long
overdue a huge THANK YOU from the USGenWeb Project for her
care and responsiveness to the Project. She is one of our unsung heroes
for her service!
After the election, but prior to September 1, I received an email from
Sean, requesting a teleconference with David Graham, RootsWeb Product
Manager; Anna Fechter, Community Operations Manager The Generations
Network; and Sean.
While I agreed to the teleconfernce, I reiterated to them,
that I was not National Coordinator yet. But I did agree
to listen.
And listen I did. Rootsweb and The Generation Network are
very eager to work with us, (the Board and the Project membership), to
facilitate a design for our masthead that distinctly displays our
mission and goals while at the same time addresses their business
concerns and decisions. I have no reason to believe that this
negotiation will not be done in good faith, as both parties are eager to
enter into a mutually acceptable agreement.
The conclusion of our conversation was that they would
prepare and forward to me a proposal for presentation to
the Advisory Board and the Project.
I will keep you all abreast of the discussions as they progress.
Tina Vickery,
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
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