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For what it is worth to you.
I have a friend in Bowie MD. Her identity was stolen, using her mothers maiden
name. It has taken her well over 2 years to recover herself back. Her car lic
etc. everything was stolen of her's. Don't ask me how they did it. she does
not even know. We are in so many Patriotic Organizations that we have now had
our papers pulled. I for one am ok with keeping Birth and Death records closed.
Jean in Bartow
"Richard R. Pettys, Jr." wrote:
> Well, inasmuch as we are not a state agency, it has absolutely zero affect
> upon our operation and the information that we either possess or
> disseminate. It is not a crime to provide the information, only unlawful
> for the State of Georgia to provide the information.
>
> it is further my opinion that this is an unconstitutional act and would not
> be upheld by any court of competent jurisdiction.
>
> So, the short answer is that we have no worries. If you would like the long
> diatribe answer, please email me off the list.
>
> Richard Pettys, Jr.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Liz Robertson <twoaunts(a)worldnet.att.net>
> To: <GAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [GAGEN] RECORDS IN GEORGIA
>
> > The below comments were sent to me today and if it was circulated last
> year,
> > I missed it. What does this mean as far as the records we have on the
> > Georgia web pages are concerned?
> >
> > Liz Robertson
> > Haralson Co., Asst. Coordinator
> >
> > "Georgia Senate Bill 205 last year was modified by one legislator in a
> > bit of "midnight madness," without review by any state agencies. In a
> > misguided and failed attempt to protect public privacy, the bill now
> > bans from public use any record, created at any time, that gives the
> > birth surname name of any person's mother. The result of this is that
> > Georgia Department of Archives and History has now closed to the public
> > its genealogical files. Some Georgia counties are now refusing to allow
> > the public from seeing even ancient marriage records.
> >
> > We all need to write to anyone and everyone in the Georgia legislature
> > to have this part of the bill repealed or amended. It really protects no
> > one's privacy as any criminal can easily circumvent the law and with no
> > fear of being caught. The bill only inconveniences honest citizens like
> > yourself from accessing records for legitimate purposes. I agree with
> > your wife that information from birth and death certificates should also
> > be made available to the general public, in an unrestricted manner,
> > through unofficial copies."
> >
> >
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Dawn, thank you for all this info.
I have had several non whites come into the Family Research Library for
research. If we could get some of these records, it would surely help some of
these people with their research. I do know that one of our well respected black
women in Bartow County had ancestors that were in Nashville and was brought to
Cass/Bartow Co. GA.
May I use your query in my Newspaper article in Cartersville. It may get you
some results.
Jean
BooleyGirl(a)aol.com wrote:
> Jean:
>
> The slave import register from Richmond Co., GA should be in a box labeled
> "No. 4260 Series F Pt. 2" on reel one. It's on the 1st floor of RBD library.
> If you're standing at the "help" desk on the 1st floor, it's to your right,
> near the study rooms. Um, that's the best directions I can give. Except,
> don't ask the staff...they're mostly students and not very helpful, bless
> their little hearts.
>
> The reason I'm so interested in records of this type is because I keep
> wondering where people in Rabun County (where I'm from) would've gone to
> purchase slaves. I have been unable to find records of this type in Rabun Co.
> I'm guessing that some went to Augusta, Atlanta or maybe Greenville, SC or
> Asheville, NC (because we're so near those two states). Obviously, some
> slaves and bonded persons were with some of the families when they moved into
> the county, or were inherited, etc. If anyone knows where slaves were
> purchased in the Northeast GA area, or knows where records of this type might
> be located, please let me know.
>
> It's puzzled me a great deal lately, that in three years of managing this
> county site, not one person has asked me about records for "colored" persons
> (meaning, non-white, non-native free colored persons or slaves before 1865)
> in Rabun County. Plenty of people ask me about the Cherokee, but no one has
> ever asked me to help them find any other non-white ancestors.
>
> Dawn
> Rabun Co.
>
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Jean:
The slave import register from Richmond Co., GA should be in a box labeled
"No. 4260 Series F Pt. 2" on reel one. It's on the 1st floor of RBD library.
If you're standing at the "help" desk on the 1st floor, it's to your right,
near the study rooms. Um, that's the best directions I can give. Except,
don't ask the staff...they're mostly students and not very helpful, bless
their little hearts.
The reason I'm so interested in records of this type is because I keep
wondering where people in Rabun County (where I'm from) would've gone to
purchase slaves. I have been unable to find records of this type in Rabun Co.
I'm guessing that some went to Augusta, Atlanta or maybe Greenville, SC or
Asheville, NC (because we're so near those two states). Obviously, some
slaves and bonded persons were with some of the families when they moved into
the county, or were inherited, etc. If anyone knows where slaves were
purchased in the Northeast GA area, or knows where records of this type might
be located, please let me know.
It's puzzled me a great deal lately, that in three years of managing this
county site, not one person has asked me about records for "colored" persons
(meaning, non-white, non-native free colored persons or slaves before 1865)
in Rabun County. Plenty of people ask me about the Cherokee, but no one has
ever asked me to help them find any other non-white ancestors.
Dawn
Rabun Co.
Donna:
Thanks for pointing out those links...that's the only place I've seen any
part of that particular census online, excepting the Native American Census
page that Connie of Heard County pointed out.
This microfilm should also be at the University of GA in Athens (they have a
fairly extensive microfilm collection). It is probably also at the GA
Archives in Atlanta. I'm not sure how many people on this list are actually
in GA, but most people should be near a large University that would have
these type of records.
Once again, thanks,
Dawn
Jean,
I was over in Cartersville on Sep 29 for my granddaughter's wedding.
They married at Roselawn Museum.
Here is the link for their homepage if you don't have it.
http://www.roselawnmuseum.com/index.shtml
Donna
In a message dated 10/14/01 11:29:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
BooleyGirl(a)aol.com writes:
> the 1835 census of Cherokee
> Indians East of the Mississippi.
This census is known as the Henderson Role.
The index is online at
http://members.aol.com/rarebk/1835c.html#top
I have the Forsyth County 1835 online from my book.
It is linked under from the census page.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaforsyt/census.htm
Microcopy No: T496 Roll No: 1, which is the microfilm roll I used, was
donated to the Forsyth County about 15 years ago. Since they split the
library into 2 branches, I am not sure at which one it is housed. It might
be more convenient for searchers in North Georgia.
Donna Parrish
Hi Dawn,
It looks like you've made a great find on the slave import register. Let's
hope there are enough interested to follow through and get the microfilm
transcribed.
For the 1835 census of Cherokee Indians East of the Mississippi:
The Census Project has recently added the Indian Census to their assignment
status web-pages and have started making assignments. Here's the URL if
anyone is interested in this:
http://www.us-census.org/native/
Connie Burkett
ACC/Heard County, GAGenWeb
-----Original Message-----
From: BooleyGirl(a)aol.com [mailto:BooleyGirl@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 11:27 AM
To: GAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [GAGEN] Antebellum and other records
I took a trip to Auburn University yesterday and found quite a few
interesting documents on microfilm. I was unable to make photocopies, but I
thought someone on the list might be interested in at least knowing that
these documents are available.
The item that sticks out most in my mind is a slave import register from
Richmond Co., GA during the years 1820-1821. But, there's a whole series
with plantation records, correspondence and other documents that were
apparently donated to certain libraries over the years. This particular
series of microfilm deals with records of antebellum Southern plantations
from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War.
I found several other interesting items, such as the 1835 census of Cherokee
Indians East of the Mississippi. I only looked through the records for 4
states (AL, GA, TN, NC), so I don't know exactly what the entire microfilm
covers. The writing was very faint, but still readable.
As far as I know, none of the records I found are online. At least, they
aren't available through the Archives or through any of the county sites I
looked at. Most researchers probably don't even know these records are
available, nor would they even know how or where to look for them.
Many of the microfilms were published by the National Archives, and are
probably available at other large Univeristies. Auburn has a WebCat, which
is their online catalog. Surely other Universities do, too...perhaps
several
researchers could make a coordinated effort to sort through these records
and
get them online, one record/plantation at a time???
I plan on going back to Auburn soon (before Christmas) and will probably
photocopy parts of the 1835 Cherokee Census mentioned above to put online.
If anyone is already working on this (or knows someone who is working on
it),
please let me know.
Meanwhile, I did manage to photocopy 1850 slave schedules for Union, Gilmer
and Rabun Counties, as well as the 1860 Agricultural Productions Schedule
for
Rabun County. I will make them available online as soon as I finish putting
the rest of the Stephens Co., GA marriage books in the Archives...four books
down, three to go!
Sincerely,
Dawn Watson
CC/Rabun Co., GAGenWeb
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Dawn, The 1835 Cherokee Cenus you speak of is in the Bartow County Ga.
Genealogical Family Research Library. in Cartersville, Both on microfilm and
hardcover.
We would love to exchange some of our works with you. I have two grandchildren
at Auburn and I will see if they will go and copy some of the documents for me on
the slave import register.
Is this in the Library?
Thank you for notifing us on this information
Jean Belew cc for Bartow Co.
BooleyGirl(a)aol.com wrote:
> I took a trip to Auburn University yesterday and found quite a few
> interesting documents on microfilm. I was unable to make photocopies, but I
> thought someone on the list might be interested in at least knowing that
> these documents are available.
>
> The item that sticks out most in my mind is a slave import register from
> Richmond Co., GA during the years 1820-1821. But, there's a whole series
> with plantation records, correspondence and other documents that were
> apparently donated to certain libraries over the years. This particular
> series of microfilm deals with records of antebellum Southern plantations
> from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War.
>
> I found several other interesting items, such as the 1835 census of Cherokee
> Indians East of the Mississippi. I only looked through the records for 4
> states (AL, GA, TN, NC), so I don't know exactly what the entire microfilm
> covers. The writing was very faint, but still readable.
>
> As far as I know, none of the records I found are online. At least, they
> aren't available through the Archives or through any of the county sites I
> looked at. Most researchers probably don't even know these records are
> available, nor would they even know how or where to look for them.
>
> Many of the microfilms were published by the National Archives, and are
> probably available at other large Univeristies. Auburn has a WebCat, which
> is their online catalog. Surely other Universities do, too...perhaps several
> researchers could make a coordinated effort to sort through these records and
> get them online, one record/plantation at a time???
>
> I plan on going back to Auburn soon (before Christmas) and will probably
> photocopy parts of the 1835 Cherokee Census mentioned above to put online.
> If anyone is already working on this (or knows someone who is working on it),
> please let me know.
>
> Meanwhile, I did manage to photocopy 1850 slave schedules for Union, Gilmer
> and Rabun Counties, as well as the 1860 Agricultural Productions Schedule for
> Rabun County. I will make them available online as soon as I finish putting
> the rest of the Stephens Co., GA marriage books in the Archives...four books
> down, three to go!
>
> Sincerely,
> Dawn Watson
> CC/Rabun Co., GAGenWeb
> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/region/southeast/
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/3398/
>
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I took a trip to Auburn University yesterday and found quite a few
interesting documents on microfilm. I was unable to make photocopies, but I
thought someone on the list might be interested in at least knowing that
these documents are available.
The item that sticks out most in my mind is a slave import register from
Richmond Co., GA during the years 1820-1821. But, there's a whole series
with plantation records, correspondence and other documents that were
apparently donated to certain libraries over the years. This particular
series of microfilm deals with records of antebellum Southern plantations
from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War.
I found several other interesting items, such as the 1835 census of Cherokee
Indians East of the Mississippi. I only looked through the records for 4
states (AL, GA, TN, NC), so I don't know exactly what the entire microfilm
covers. The writing was very faint, but still readable.
As far as I know, none of the records I found are online. At least, they
aren't available through the Archives or through any of the county sites I
looked at. Most researchers probably don't even know these records are
available, nor would they even know how or where to look for them.
Many of the microfilms were published by the National Archives, and are
probably available at other large Univeristies. Auburn has a WebCat, which
is their online catalog. Surely other Universities do, too...perhaps several
researchers could make a coordinated effort to sort through these records and
get them online, one record/plantation at a time???
I plan on going back to Auburn soon (before Christmas) and will probably
photocopy parts of the 1835 Cherokee Census mentioned above to put online.
If anyone is already working on this (or knows someone who is working on it),
please let me know.
Meanwhile, I did manage to photocopy 1850 slave schedules for Union, Gilmer
and Rabun Counties, as well as the 1860 Agricultural Productions Schedule for
Rabun County. I will make them available online as soon as I finish putting
the rest of the Stephens Co., GA marriage books in the Archives...four books
down, three to go!
Sincerely,
Dawn Watson
CC/Rabun Co., GAGenWeb
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/region/southeast/http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/3398/
At 08:27 AM 10/13/01 -0700, Mary Kathryn Kozy wrote:
>Got an email from a site visitor a short while back saying that the above
>referenced
>site link is broken. Here's the link:
>
>http://user.mc.net/~orphans1/georgia/research.htm
>
>Anyone know if it still exists, and if so, where it has gone to?
This site has been down and out for a couple of years... or more. The
person who was managing, a former SC for Georgia, seems to be totally gone
from the genealogy scene. So... if there is anyone who has links to this on
the pages, they should remove them.
Wyndell Taylor
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mary Kozy
>Dougherty, Marion, and Monroe Co., GAGenWeb CC
>mkozy(a)attglobal.net
>
>
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Search Engines is a great Idea!
I just added those to Taylor. The one for the county page isn't
working....so I'll have to try to figure out why it isn't, but the mailing
list and archives search engines are working.
Thanks Donna for that great tip!!
At 10:06 AM 10/10/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 10/10/01 9:43:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>varcsix(a)hot.rr.com writes:
>
> > This is one that I've done for Taylor County
> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.
> > states.georgia.counties.taylor
>
>Very nice Virginia. You have covered all the bases.
>
>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?f=viewboard&r=rw&p=localities.northam.u...
>
>ates.georgia.counties.forsyth
>
>On the Forsyth board, I have tried using the search engine.
>
>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?f=viewboard&r=rw&p=localities.northam.u...
>
>ates.georgia.counties.chattooga
>
>Chattooga is where I put a picture online for a poster to the board.
>
>Donna
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Virginia Crilley
Virginia pointed out that we are apparently picking up posters to the boards
from other sources and I agree.
Some have been unaware of the Genweb pages.
The Links and Annoucements - link on the page seems to be
overlooked.
Recently, I put a photo online for one of my boards and posted the message to
the board that it was linked from
"Links & Announcements above"
>From some of the emails I received, I found out that the posters were unaware
of the Genweb pages.
Links & Announcements opens in a new window and can effectively be a webpage
unto itself.
If you do not hand code your html, the best way to upgrade your Links &
Announcements is to build a webpage with the software you use, then cut and
paste the code between the body - / body tags into the space.
If we do not use this tool we are cutting traffic from our pages. Once you
have your links and announcement page finished, post a message to your board
referring people to something on the Links & Announcements link and they
will get used to using it.
If anyone needs help, please email me privately.
Donna
In a message dated 10/9/01 3:44:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
varcsix(a)hot.rr.com writes:
> What "logo" graphic can we use? I was still using just one puzzle piece,
> as I think it calls attention to the Queries.
>
> Is this still permissible, or have they created an identifying logo for us
> to use?
The query symbol is fine. If they have a logo it has not been sent to the
announce list.
Since I have diversified my queries page and offer other choices, I use ???
Queries in a large font to draw attention to the queries page then on that
page list it as Rootsweb Message Board.
Donna
I just got a message which answered the question I had just asked.
The message (gatewayed) does tell if it comes from Ancestry.
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Dd.2ADI/231.95.156.354
Likewise if you clicked on this URL you would go to the ancestry
boards. They are identical to the Rootsweb, but I was just curious how
many "new" people were reaching us through the Ancestry side.
Virginia Crilley
In reply to some questions I have received:
One of the items that needs to be updated on all the pages are the old
genconnect links now that they have changed to Rootsweb Message Boards.
Regardless of the link, bios, bibles, deeds, obits, pensions or wills. if
you click on it, it will take you to the main message board page.
If you are using the old links
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ga/YOURCOUNTY
they will go to the main message board page, not to your county
If you are using
http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Ga/Yourcounty
for your queries, this link will take people to your county.
The correct URL now is
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa...
es.georgia.counties.yourcounty
If you prefer to cut and paste
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa...
es.georgia.counties
will give you all the Georgia Counties and you can right click on your county
name and click copy shortcut.
Those still using the Visitor puzzle piece and link need to remove it since
it is no longer appropriate.
Donna
Hi Tina,
I don't personally have a problem with you posting the information you did.
However, this is not HOLLYMAN(a)yahoogroups.com list. It is the GAGen-L,
which is for GA County Coordinators to share information on, and for the
State CC to be able to post 1 message and it get to all of us.
Have a good night and happy hunting.
Denise Kirkland Smiley
Decatur County, GAGenWeb CC
Seminole County, GAGenWeb CC
GAGenWeb Unknown Queries
USGenWeb Death Index Project Coordinator
Clearinghouse for Kirkland Records
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tina Peddie" <tpeddie(a)charter.net>
To: <GAGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:04 AM
Subject: [GAGEN] POSTING RESOURCES
> *Chris & All:
> My posting the information about a SOUTHERN FAMILY HISTORY BOOK THAT
IS *AVAILABLE* is not spam, but is letting other southern researchers who
may have an interest in it know about it. Many southern families share
common lines.
> Chris, I manage this list, created it, brought everyone together,
and if someone wants to post info about a good Resource that is available,
then I give my permission for them to do so on this list.
> I'm sorry if you are uncomfortable about this form of sharing info
and resources. No, letting people know about a good genealogical resource
is not spam.
> In fact, this is a good time to mention that if ANYONE has any
good GA/Southern Resources, family history books/county histories, etc.,
that they can part with for money or not, please feel free to post it here.
And any good family history websites!
> *Tina/CA*
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*Chris & All:
My posting the information about a SOUTHERN FAMILY HISTORY BOOK THAT IS *AVAILABLE* is not spam, but is letting other southern researchers who may have an interest in it know about it. Many southern families share common lines.
Chris, I manage this list, created it, brought everyone together, and if someone wants to post info about a good Resource that is available, then I give my permission for them to do so on this list.
I'm sorry if you are uncomfortable about this form of sharing info and resources. No, letting people know about a good genealogical resource is not spam.
In fact, this is a good time to mention that if ANYONE has any good GA/Southern Resources, family history books/county histories, etc., that they can part with for money or not, please feel free to post it here. And any good family history websites!
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