Cousins,
Here is more info on Clemence de Arcy who was married to Henry Pinel and
some claim was the mother of Joanna. The dates for Joanna are helpful but I'm
sure she was never married to William de Braose but is believed to have had
an affair with him for which Llywelyn had de Braose hung. <A
HREF="http://data.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=gedind&ti=0&am...
">Click here:
Ancestry.com - Ancestry World Tree Search Results</A>
Susan