Hi Gary,
Thanks so much for the response. Here's my saga of Cadwallader ap Robert,
and you can let me know if it ultimately rings true to you.
At your suggestion, I went to Jenkins' "Gwynedd" and find helpful info on
the ship's passengers on pgs 50-51, and Cadwallader ap Robert is not
mentioned. However, I find it interesting that his mother is Jane v John,
sister of William ap John who went over in 1697 in preparation for the rest
of the group. In addition to William's wife & children, his other sister
Margaret (wife of David ab Evan) and brother Robert were on board the R&E.
William's uncle (brother to his mother, Jane), Griffith ap John, appears to
have emigrated in 1690, which makes 4 "ap John" siblings ultimately
emigrating that I know of. Jane v John & her husband, Robert ap Cadwallader,
both of whom died in Pennsylvania, obviously emigrated at some point, and it
appears that their son, Cadwallader ap Robert, as well as most of his
siblings, did as well. If the whole family were on the R&E, I don't know
how Jenkins could miss a family group that large. But that's page 50.
THEN, looking on p. 186 in Jenkins (chapter on Roberts Family Genealogy), he
relates that Cadwallader ap Robert, and probably his brother Morris, came
over with Edward Foulke and Cadwallader Evans, which would mean the R&E in
1698, and their father, Robert ap Cadwallader, his wife and remaining
children (John, Rowland, Elizabeth & Nicholas) came over sometime after
1698, but Jenkins seems uncertain of details.
My thoughts at the moment, always subject to change, are that Cadwallader ap
Robert and Morris ap Robert were indeed on the R&E, probably under the
watchful eye of their aunt, Margaret v John, her husband David ab Evan, and
numerous more distant relatives, and the remainder of their immediate family
was on a later ship (before 1704). I think these 2 lone brothers were part
of the few Jenkins referred to "As to the other families I do not attempt
anything." on p. 50, so I'm putting them on the passenger list. The nutshell
is in reading p. 50 and 186. What do you think?
Beth.
----- Original Message -----
From: GARY ROBERTS
To: Beth McMakin
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FRONGOCH] Robert & Elizabeth Passenger List
Beth, This is great work. I was wondering about Cadwallader ap Robert that
is my line. I have read references to the fact that they were also on the
"Robert and Elizabeth" for the 1698 sailing. I believe Jenkins books makes
this reference. I did not see his/family name on your list and I was
wondering if you could check and see if the were, in fact, on the ship. I
appreciate your work and checking into this.
Gary in Texas
http://garys-genealogy.com