There's the connection to two other famous Welshmen. BTW, Mawr or Fawr
means Great and Dda means good. Ddu means bad.
This is a tanlged mess. I can't even tell you how many times we relate to
ourselves....even if I have some of it wrong, we relate to many times! <G>
There are other ways, I'm leaving out for the sake of time and the fact
that I would like to relocate my sources and check them more carefully. I
did this about 20 years ago.
Enjoy,
Emily
Again, the person below is the child of the person above:
Rhodri Mawr, d. 878, killed by Saxons
Cadell
Hywell Dda, d. ca 950 AD
Owain, Ruler of Deheubarth, d. 988 AD
Einon, d. 984 (other sources say 973 --needs checking)
Gronw
Edwin who m. Iwerydd v. Cynfyn
Owain, d. 1105
Angharad, d. 1162 & m. Gruffydd ap Cynan. (Gruffydd was b. in Dublin,
Ireland; bur in Bangor Cathedral
Owain Gwynedd or Wain Fawr, b. 1137; d. 1170, Bangor Cathedral
Iowerth Dryndwn, d. 1174
Llywellyn Fawr, b. 1173/76; d. 1240; bur in Abby of Cenway; he m. Joan, dau
of
King John of Enlgand. His son Gruffydd was illegitimate and the
mother was Tangwystl (NOT Joan)
Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, d. 1244
Gwladus? (some say Margaret v. Gruffyd --see p. 70 of Welsh Founders of PA)
Rhys-Gloff or Wyndad (SEE previous post)
THEN, we also descend from Rhodri Mawr this way:
Rhodri Mawr, d. 878, killed by Saxons
Cadell
Hywell Dda, d. ca 950 AD
Owain, Prince of South Wales, d. 988/7
Einion who d. 973/4 in Battle of Pen Coed Colwyn
Cadell who d. 993 in Battle of Lengwm
Tewdwr who d. just aft 997 in Brittany
Rhys, b. 997 Ad; d. ca 1093 in battle near Aberhonddu,Wales, killed by Normans
Gruffydd, lived at Caen; murdered by his sec. wife
Gwladus
Rhys
Goronwy
Einion
Gronowy
Tanglwyst who m. Madoc Goch.
Trahairn-Goch (a Lord)
David-Goch, Lord of Pendlech
Ievan-Goch, Lord of Graininoc
Madoc, Lord of Grainianoc
Diekws-Ddu
Einion, Lord of Grainoc
Howel of Yspytty Evan
Griffith of Yspytty Evan
Lewis, Lord of Yshute
Robert ap Lewis, Lord of Rhiwlas
Evan ap Robert ap Lewis of Yspytty Evan
OR:
Rhodri Mawr, d. 878, killed by Saxons
Cadell
Hywell Dda, d. ca 950 AD
Owain, Prince of South Wales, d. 988/7
Maredudd, King of Deheubarth who d. 999
Angharad who m. Cynfyn ap Gwerstan
Rhiwallon who d. 1068 Battle of Mechain
Gwladus who m. Rhys ap Tewdwr.
Gruffydd, lived at Caen; murdered by his sec. wife
Gwladus
Rhys
Goronwy
Einion
Gronowy
Tanglwyst who m. Madoc Goch.
Trahairn-Goch (a Lord)
David-Goch, Lord of Pendlech
Ievan-Goch, Lord of Graininoc
Madoc, Lord of Grainianoc
Diekws-Ddu
Einion, Lord of Grainoc
Howel of Yspytty Evan
Griffith of Yspytty Evan
Lewis, Lord of Yshute
Robert ap Lewis, Lord of Rhiwlas
Evan ap Robert ap Lewis of Yspytty Evan
Rhodri Mawr
Merwyn or Merfyn
Avandrez (first cousin to Idwal Foel (source: royal Descent, p. 496) who
m. Idwal Foel, son of Anarwad ap Rhodri Mawr
Meuig who d. 986
Idwal, Prince of Gwynedd who d. 996/4 battle of pen Nynydd in Mon
Iago, King of Gwynedd in 1033; killed 1039 by his own men
Cynan
Gruffydd, b. 1054/5 Dublin, Ire; d. 1137; bur. Bangor Cathedral & m.
Gruffydd ap Rhys. Gruffydd was murdered by his sec wife (see above)
Gwennlian who d. 1136/7 in Battle near Kidwelly against Maurice of London
Gwladus who m. Caradog ap Iestyn
Rhys
Goronwy
Einion
Gronowy
Tanglwyst who m. Madoc Goch.
Trahairn-Goch (a Lord)
David-Goch, Lord of Pendlech
Ievan-Goch, Lord of Graininoc
Madoc, Lord of Grainianoc
Diekws-Ddu
Einion, Lord of Grainoc
Howel of Yspytty Evan
Griffith of Yspytty Evan
Lewis, Lord of Yshute
Robert ap Lewis, Lord of Rhiwlas
Evan ap Robert ap Lewis of Yspytty Evan
AND from Rhodri Mawr this way:
Rhodri Mawr, King of North Wales
Anarwad, d. 916 AD
Idwal Foel who d. 942 or 941 or 043 (have seen them all)
Meurig, d. 986
Idwal, Prince of Gwynedd, d. 996 or 994 in battle of Pen Mynydd in Mon
Iago, King of Gwynedd in 1033; killed by his own men in 1039
Cynan
Gruffydd, b. 1054/5 Dublin, Ire; d. 1137; bur. Bangor Cathedral & m.
Gruffydd ap Rhys. Gruffydd was murdered by his sec wife (see above)
Gwennlian who d. 1136/7 in Battle near Kidwelly against Maurice of London
Gwladus who m. Caradog ap Iestyn
Rhys
Goronwy
Einion
Gronowy
Tanglwyst who m. Madoc Goch.
Trahairn-Goch (a Lord)
David-Goch, Lord of Pendlech
Ievan-Goch, Lord of Graininoc
Madoc, Lord of Grainianoc
Diekws-Ddu
Einion, Lord of Grainoc
Howel of Yspytty Evan
Griffith of Yspytty Evan
Lewis, Lord of Yshute
Robert ap Lewis, Lord of Rhiwlas
Evan ap Robert ap Lewis of Yspytty Evan
AND:
Rhodri Mawr, King of North Wales
Anarwad, d. 916 AD
Idwal Foel who d. 942 or 941 or 043 (have seen them all)
Meurig, d. 986
Idwal, Prince of Gwynedd, d. 996 or 994 in battle of Pen Mynydd in Mon
Yngharad who m. Caradog
Trahaeain, King of Gwynedd, d. 1081 in battle against Rhys
Llywarch, who d. ca 1123 or 1129/30
Gwladus who m. Owain Gwynedd or Fawr. (he b. 1127 AD; d. 1170 Bangor)
Iowerth Dryndwn who d. 1174
Llywelyn Fawr, b. ca 1173/6; d. 1240
Gruffydd ap Llywelyn who d. 1244
Gwladus? ( or Margaret v. Gruffyd)
Rhys-Gloff or Wyndad (SEE previous post)