The Robert Owen mentioned is, I believe, my Robert. I can post the story
of him from "Marion of the Welsh Tract" if anyone wishs. There were two
Robert Owens near each other at about the same time. The Robert
mentioned was the son of Owen ab Evan of Fron Goch. The following is an
excerpt from that article.
"Robert was appointed one of the overseers of the will of John Thomas,
of
Llaithgwm, which document is dated 9th February, 1682, and was executed
in
Wales, but probated in Pennsylvania in the year 1688. He is described
therein
as "Robert Owen late of fron goch neer Bala in the County of Merionyth."
Subsequent to this date, however, I find him still a resident of the
parish of
Lianddervel in Merionethshire". On the 8th day of the Sixth-month
(August),
1690, the Quarterly Meeting of Friends held at Tyddyn y Garreg,
Merionethshire, granted a certificate of removal to this Robert Owen".
This
certificate is of record in Book 1st, pp. 286-87 of the Merion, Radnor
and
Haverford Meeting, and is as follows:
To o' Friends & Brothers in the Province of Pennsylvania.
These are to certifier as occasion shall require, unto whom it may
concern in
the behalf of o' dearly beloved friende & Brother Robt. Owen & Rebecca
his
wife & their dear & tender children. That they are faithful & beloved
friends,
well known to be serviceable unto Friends & brethren since they have
(become
convinced), of a Savory & Blameless conversation. Alsoe are psons Dearly
beloved & Respected of all sorts. His testimony sweet & tender, reaching
to
the quicking seed of life, of a meek, quiet & gentle Behavior; we cannot
alsoe
but bemoan the want of his company, being he was near and dear unto us &
seasonable in intention for Pennsylvania many months before his removal,
now
seeing it remaineth still on his mind, & in order therein unto finding
his way
clear & freedom in the truth according to the measure manifested unto
him, we
thought it o' duty to commend him unto you as o' dear & faithfull friend
&
brother, and hereby desirin-g their faithfull services in the truth may
increase & abound among you to their endless joy without end."
The curious thing though is that in the book there is a photo of the
Marriage
Certificate of Robert Owen and his wife, Rebecca. She is listed as the
"first
daughter of Owen Humphrey of Llwyn du in the Comt. of Talybont in the
county."
So I am very curious about the source of the quote: "Robert Owen late of
Frongoch and son-in-law Rees Evans of Penmaen both near Bala, Merionyth
Co."
Was Robert married twice?
BTW, The other Robert Owen was married to Jane, daughter of Robert
Vaughan,
Esq., of Hengwrt.
This is not really about Fron Goch but I have a question for you
experts:
Is MILES a Welsh name?
Thanks and regards to all,
Ken
Emily Aulicino wrote:
This message just came from another list to which I belong that deals
with
the original 13 settlers of Germantown, PA. Notice the Robert Owens of
Frongoch, below.
Can anyone determine which Robert Owens this could be for sure????
I'm sending all of the entries as some of you may relate to others
mentioned. Please let the list know if you can add further informaiton to
any below. ALSO, if any of you have copies of wills, deeds, etc. from the
archives or courthouses, etc. of PA on our Welsh lines, please post them.
Thanks,
Emily
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>Phila Co
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>HERIOTT, THOMAS. Late of Hurstprepoynt, Sussex Co., England. Yeoman.
>September 19, 1682. May 2, 1683. A. 4.
>Nuncupative will. Estate to his brother-in-law, Dennis Rothford.
>Legacy to his sister Anne Strate. Declared on board the ship Welcome,
>Robert Greenaway, commander, thus bound by permission of God for
>Pennsilvania. Witnesses: George Thompson, grocer; Thomas Wynne,
>chirurgeon; David Ogdin, weaver; Joshua Morris, tynnplate worker.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>INGRAM, ISAAC. Late of Gaston and Surrey. Yeoman.
>July 26, 1682. ---. A. 11.
>Estate to Adam, Miriam and Anne Short, children of his deceased sister
>Miriam Short, and to the poor of the Quakers. Legacies to Jane
>Batchelor, Thomas Fitzwater, David Ogden, John Songhurst, Thomas Wynne,
>friend Ambrose Rigge of Galton, Surry Co. Signed with his mark on
>board the Welcome, Robert Greenaway, master, bound for Pennsylvania.
>Executors: John Songhurst and Thomas Wynne.
>Witnesses: Richard Ingels, Zechariah Whitpaine, George Thompson.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>THOMAS, JOHN. Llaethgwn, Commott Penllun, Meriweth Co. Gentleman.
>February 9, 1682. March 10, 1688. A. 77.
>Estate to wife Kathrine who is sole Executrix and to children Thomas
>Jones, Robert John, Evan John, Cadwalader John, Kathrine John, Mary
>John, Sudney John and eldest daughter Elizabeth, wife of Rees Evan of
>the township of Penmaen, Meringth Co.; nephew John the younger son of
>his brother Cadwalader Thomas late of Kiltalgarth, deceased; nieces
>Jane and Kathrine daughters of his brother Cadwalader Thomas and nephew
>Thomas Cadwalader. Overseers: John ap John of the parish of Phueabou,
>Denlrgh Co.; Thomas Ellis of Cyfanedd, Mesioneth Co.; Thomas Wynne late
>of Brouvadog near Caerwys in the County of Flint; Robert David of
>Gwerneul, Merionyth Co.; Hugh Roberts of Kiltalgarth in the said
>County; Edward Jones late of Bala, Chirurgeon of the same County;
>Robert Vaughan of Gwernevel, Merionyth Co.; Edward Moris of
>Havodgynfawr, Denbigh Co.; Robert Owen late of Frongoch and son-in-law
>Rees Evans of Penmaen both near Bala, Merionyth Co.
>Witnesses: Robert Vaughan, Rowland Owen, Thomas Vaughan.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>WYNNE, THOMAS. Phila. Practitioner of Physick.
>January 15, 1691. February 20, 1692. A. 200.
>Estate to wife Elizabeth who is Executrix and to children Jonathan,
>Mary, Rebecca, Sidney and Hannah all living in America, and daughter
>Tabitha living in England. At the death of his wife, son Jonathan is
>to be Executor. Brother-in- law Saml. Buttall. He held an estate near
>Lewistowne and Cedar Creeke, both in Sussex Co.
>Overseers: Thomas Lloyd, Dept. Govr. of this Province, and Griffith
>Owen. Witnesses: Arthur Cooke, Phinehas Pemberton, Richard Thomas,
>Theo. Roberts, Mary Holme.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>WARNER, ANN. Co. of Philadelphia. Widow. 11 mo. 23, 1746/7. October
>17, 1754. K.206.
>Children: William, John, Isaac, Ann (Wynne), Mary, Esther, Hannah and
>Anne. Exec: Son-in-law, Richard George of Philadelphia.
>Witnesses: Hugh Evans, Edward William.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>WYNNE, THOMAS. Blockley, Co. of Philadelphia. November 23, 1751.
>December 24, 1757. L.54.
>Wife: Mary. Children: Thomas, Mary, Sarah, Anne and Lydia. Cousin:
>James Wynne. Brother-in-Law: Richard George. Exec: Mary Wynne.
>Asst. Exec: Richard George.
>Witnesses: Jesse George, Evan Gerrgo (his mark), Richard George.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>WISTER, JOHN. City of Phila. Merchant.
>January 29, 1785. February 6, 1789. U.218.
>Large Estates in Phila. and Counties of Phila.
>Children: Daniel, William, Catharine Miles [Wife of Samuel Miles],
>Salome Morgan. To William Wister, Samuel Miles, William Chancellor and
>Caleb Foulke. [In Trust] Daughter-in-Law: Lowry [Wife of Son Daniel].
>Grandchildren: John Wister, Charles Jones Wister, William Wynne Wister
>and four Daughters [No names given], [Children of Son Daniel]. William
>and Salome Carpenter Chancellor. Housekeeper: Justin Hernberger. Exec:
>William Wister, Son-in-Law Samuel Miles, Grandson William Chancellor.
>Wit: Reuben Haines, Bartholomew Wister, Caspar W. Haines.
>Codicil: Signed September 23, 1786.
>Daughter: Catherine Miles.
>Wit: Reuben Haines, B. Wister, Casper William Haines.
>
>Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834
>
>WISTER, WILLIAM. City of Phila. Merchant.
>January 15, 1800. August 17, 1801. Y.557.
>Exec: Brother-in-Law Samuel Miles, Nephew John Wister, Owen Jones,
>Jonathan Jones. To Contributors of the Pennsylvania Hospital. To
>Overseers of the Poor of Phila. for clothes, Fuel, etc. among Poor
>Housekeepers. To Exec. [In Trust]. To Nieces and Nephews Abagail
>Potts and her Children, Susanna W. Price, Hannah, Sarah, Elizabeth,
>John, William Wynne, Charles Jones Wister [Children of Brother Daniel].
>To William W., John, Joseph, Hannah McKean and Mary Miles. To
>Catharine, Samuel, William and James Miles [Children of Nephew James
>Miles, December'd].
>Wit: Godfrey Tuells, John Singer.
>
>
>
>Vince
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