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Can anyone tell me if there is some significance to the name Morgan in the name William Morgan Davies?
My great grandfather was born in Wales and migrated to the US, being naturalized in 1886. He died 8 yrs later, and not much is known about him, and nothing of his past. Any help appreciated.
Marc
Descendants of William Morgan Davis
Generation No. 1
1. WILLIAM MORGAN1 DAVIS was born Abt 1865 in Wales, and died December 12, 1893 in Martins' Ferry, Belmont Co., Vol. 3, 1893-1904, p. 52, line 13. OH of LaGrippe. He married ALICE ANN THOMAS December 14, 1886 in Belmont Co., OH, daughter of Charles Thomas and Sarah Westwood.
Notes
Wm. M. Davis, according to Naturalization papers filed 30 Oct., 1886 in Belmont Co., Court, entered this country on 18 Sept., 1881. He married a few months after his naturalization. Son, Earl Chester was born 2 years after the marriage. His wife was born in Sharpsburg, Allegheny Co., PA. A second son was born and died in 1891.
Wm. M. Davis died in 1893 of LaGrippe. His property in Martins Ferry was appraised and sold in 1894 and the records of such were filed in Belmont Co., Probate Court. He and his son are supposed to be buried in Martins Ferry. Wm. E. Davis, grandson of Wm. M., is said to have put perpetual care on the graves in the early 1930's.
Wm. M. Davis is supposed to have been a City Councilman for Martin's Ferry.
Alice A. (Thomas) Davis' family is supposed to have lived in the area. Her brother Wm. E. Thomas who married Delora Cos, was administrator to his brother-in-law's estate. Her sister Sadie is supposed to have been married to a member of the Hall China Co., family and lived in Steubenville. She is also supposed to have been a "blue star mother" after her step-son's death during WWI. I believe he was a Thompson
Children of William Davis and Alice Thomas are:
i. EARL CHESTER2 DAVIS, b. December 10, 1888, Martins' Ferry, Belmont Co., OH; d. October 05, 1941, Bellevue, Sandusky or Huron Co., OH; m. ELIZABETH JANE MACINTYRE.
ii. ALBERT DAVIS, b. October 04, 1891, Martins' Ferry, Belmont Co., OH; d. October 08, 1891, Martins' Ferry, Belmont Co., OH, of heart trouble, Vol. 2, p. 57, line 16.
In searching for the "Robert & Elizabeth" (@$#%*&), I found the ship, "Morning Star", on which the "preacher" Hugh Roberts (through Evan Robert Lewis' brother, Hugh) and his wife, Jane Owen (through ERL's son, Owen) sailed to PA. I believe Jane died there after having a 6th child, and Hugh returned to Wales briefly and remarried. It's rather peripheral, but still related.
***
Passenger List for the MORNING STAR
Arrival 11 - 1683, England to Philadelphia
Master: Thomas Hayes
Henry Atherly
David Davies
Robert Davies and wife and children
George Edge and wife, Joan "of Barrow"
Humphrey Edwards, servant to John Edwards
John Edwards and minor children Elizabeth, Sarah, Edward and Evan
Mary Hughes, servant to John Edwards
William John (Jones), wife Ann Reynold and children John, Alice, Katherine and Gwen
Gabriel Jones, servant to John Edwards
John Loftus
William and Elizabeth Morgan
Thomas Oldham
Thomas Pritchard
Gainor Roberts, sister of Hugh Roberts, married fellow passenger
John Roberts
Hugh Roberts, wife Jane and children Robert, Ellin, Owen, Edward and William
John Roberts
Richard Thomas and son, Richard Jr.
***
I didn't have record of Gainor Roberts, but also haven't finished all my "reading"! John Roberts could possibly be the son of Robert Cadwallader & Jane v John (dau of John ap Evan) as the timing is right. I know of a William Morgan, alive at this time, marrried to Catherine v Robert, grandaughter of ERL's son, Griffith ap Evan. I don't know if they're the same or what relation this Elizabeth might be to him. Catherine's father, Robert ap Griffith, died at sea in 1698 (probably on the illusive Robert & Elizabeth). I know of a William John who sailed to PA in 1697, but I believe his wives were Jane v Hugh Cadwallader and Margaret v John.
That's all I know. Beth.
Is everyone aware of Edward Foulke's account of the R&E journey? This was
swiped from the Foulke Family page at www.foulke.org. An account of it can
be found in "Historical Collections of Gwynedd" and "Early Friends Families
of Upper Bucks" by Clarence Roberts and Howard Jenkins.
... We lived at a place called Coed-y-foel, a beautiful farm belonging to
Roger Price, Esq. of Rhiwalas, a Merionethshire, aforesaid. But in process
of time, I had an inclination to remove my family to the Province of
Pennsylvania; and in order there, to we set out on the 3d day of the 2d
month, A.D. 1698, and came in two days time to Liverpool where, with divers
others who intended to go on the voyage, we took shipping the 17th of the
same month on board the Robert and Elizabeth, and the next day set sail for
Ireland, where we arrived and stayed until the first of the third month,
May, and then sailed again for Pennsylvania, and were about eleven weeks at
sea. And the sore distemper of the bloody flux broke out in the vessel, of
which died in our passage, five and fourty persons. The distemper was so
mortal that two or three corpses were cast overboard each day while it
lasted. "But through the favor of Mercy and of Divine Providence, I with my
wife and nine children escaped that sore mortality, and arrived safe in
Philadelphia, the 17th of the 5th month, July, where were kindly received
and hospitably entertained by our friends and old acquaintances."
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I have been corresponding with a lady in the UK who gave permission to
share this with you. Just a tidbit, although not as old as we'd like.
Below this is her email tonight trying to tell me how to say Llys. I find
that "y" is more like "uh" than "ugh" in my dictionaries, however.
TTYL,
Emily
>Hello Emily.
>I have found one of the books I was hunting for. In this a couple (about 45
>years ago I guess) are walking the length of the River Conwy, starting at
>Ysbyty Ifan, here I quote:-
>Ysbyty Ifan or the "Hospitium of John" where the Knights Hospitaller of St
>John of Malta maintained an establishment. We came upon a cluster of grey
>roofed cottages and a plaque which proclaimed their history.
>THESE ALMSHOUSES BUILT ORIGINALLY BY MRS. CATHERINE VAUGHAN, OF PANT GLAS,
>WERE REBUILT IN 1880 BY EDWARD GORDON, BARON PENRHYN.
>They tell of how part of the river had been damned there, and also how the
>locals told of how the village was dying, (remember this was written quite a
>while ago) The village is divided by the River and one side was in
>Caernarfonshire and the other in Denbighshire. (I'm not sure if this is
still
>the case as they have altered county boundaries back and forth)
>The old church there was evidently built on the Hospice of St. John. Years
>ago there were large congregations there but at the time these people were
>visiting only 7 or 8 came to morning service In the churchyard are buried
>many of the Princes of Gwydir.
>
>A little below the churchyard in an empty enclosure were concrete
>foundations, all that remained of the village hall, which had been occupied
>by the military during the war and had been burned down. The war office
>disclaimed responsibility, and Ysbyty Ifan could not afford to rebuild it.
>
>Hope this gives you a bit of a taster as to the history. What are the names
>of the family you are tracing there? If I find my other book (more cupboards
>to explore!) I will write again. Have a wonderful trip to the fatherland, if
>it rains (which it well may) think of it as a beauty treatment for the skin!
>Incidentally I remember going to Ysbyty Ifan with my Mum and Dad when I
was a
>child (I'm 55 now) and we picked wild Llys there. (I think you call them
>blueberries), I wonder if they still grow there? it's a sure sign of acid
>soil if they do. and a sure sign you've been eating them if you have blue
>stains on you lips and fingers.
>God bless and enjoy yourself. Elsbeth.
By all means share what I have sent with your relations. I have had so much
help myself from others I am glad to help in my turn. As I said I will keep
looking this end. One word though, Ysbyty is a very tiny place with very
little there, beautiful though. I have kept your details on file in case I
come across any info for you. Llys ....mmmmm now let me see, how to tell
you how to say it. For the Ll put the tip of your tongue behind your top
teeth and blow (bit messy this!) for the y part say as if you have seen
something nasty on the floor and you're saying ugh! say the s as usual.
All the best to you and yours. good hunting and god bless. Elsbeth.
>
Hi Cousins,
I may be the last person to realize this, but I see that Evan ap Evan is buried at Lanfor Church according to a transcript of the Lanfor Diocesan Registry, St. Asaph. It would be something if there were still a headstone for him.
I also read the following in "Welsh Founders of PA" (vol. 2, p. 95) which made me wonder about the farm Tyddyn y Bedw. I know I've seen it before, but didn't realize that Evan ap Evan & brother, John ap Evan, were involved with it.:
"In the Evans MSS. he [Evan ap Evan] is designated as "of Fron Goch," and may have lived there for a time with his brother Owen ap Evan. In or about 1671, however, he was joint tenant, with his brother John Evan, of the adjacent farm of Tyddyn y bedw, belonging to Evan Lloyd ap Rhydderch, of Garn, Lanfor, as appears by the latter's will...."
Would someone in the family have lived there?
This brings up some confusion on my part, I'm embarrassed to say, of just what and where Frongoch is, as dumb as that sounds. What does it mean if we say our relatives lived at Frongoch? I know it's now a town though the town itself probably was named later, after the farm of the same name. Sometimes I feel Frongoch refers to a farm with a single farmhouse, and at other times, a larger area, incorporating more than one house. Might ERL's children have lived in a few different houses, as tenants, yet still at Frongoch? Here's another paragraph from "Welsh Founders of PA" (vol. 2, p. 85):
"Fron Goch, which gave its name to the present ecclesiastical district of the same name, is a large farm partly in the parish of Llandderfel, to which it still pays tithes, but mostly in the township of Ucheldre, in the parish of Llanfor, Merionethshire. It was formerly of much greater extent than at the present time, several parcels of land having been cut out of it, and appears to have extended into the township of Cynlas, formerly of Llandderfel, but now locally in Llanfor. The principal residence was in Llanfor, near the present Fron Goch Station, but there were other tenements, some of them on detached parcels, belonging to Fron Goch. The tenants have of late times always baptized and buried at Llanfor Church, but in earlier days they occasionally buried at Llandderfel, especially if residing at the time in any of those tenements belonging to Fron Goch which lay within the latter parish. There is evidence to show that Fron Goch was sometimes considered to be a townshi!
p of itself."
With such varying references, reading old records can be puzzling. Maybe a map of "Frongoch" is among the Rhiwlas papers (one can dream...). Is the "principal residence" near Fron Goch Station referred to, the present Frongoch B&B & if not, how does it fit into the residential settlement of Frongoch?
I'm going to make some tea - my brain is full!
Beth.
All,
Don't let me discourage your search. I'd give anything to get a look at a
passenger list for the R&E! And of course if you really want to support the
Pennsylvania economy, send it to me! :-) Seriously though, my point is, don't
spend good money on ground that's already been covered. If this list exists, I
seriously doubt that it's in any of the "usual" places. The usual places, i.e.
Swarthmore, Chester County Historical Society, Pennsylvania Historical Society,
etc. have already been hit pretty hard for this record. I honestly believe that
hiring people to do research there is beating a dead horse.
I have yet to see any list for the April, 1698 voyage. Are you sure that
the list you saw was for that voyage of the R&E and not a different voyage? As
for the records for Gwynedd and Merion, they are at Swarthmore and again that's
been hit pretty hard. That ship's record is certainly buried pretty deep if it's
there.
Roland
Links4two(a)aol.com wrote:
> Roland and Everyone,
> I thought I saw a ship's list for the "Robert and Elizabeth" posted on
> the internet (I think someone on Rootsweb's ships' list site gave me the web
> address for it). I also saw a list for the "Lyon", but neither mentioned my
> (and Priscilla's) Griffith John. I've read that he came over in 1690 but one
> lady told me it was 1693. I would love to find the name of the ship he came
> over on and the exact date! I do not know if the lists for the "Lyon" and the
> "Robert and Elizabeth" were complete lists or not. I did not save the
> addresses since they didn't help me. I am no longer on the ships' list
> mailing list either but isn't that how we found each other, Beth? Are you
> still on the list? Maybe someone there could help us or someone at Merion or
> Gwynedd meeting would have some records.
>
> Susan
Dear all,
I have looked in the 'Gwynedd" book and find: There is an "Evans
Family Record" begun in 1797 by Cadwalader Evans son of Rowland. In fact,
Jenkins says there are several copies - in the possession ( this was written
in 1897) of Charles J. Wister of Germantown, Jonathan Evans of Germantown,
Mr. Allen Childs, West Philadelphia, and Susan Y. Foulke, Norristown. Also:
On a different page Jenkins refers to a genealogical sketch of the family
preserved by the four Evans brothers (Thomas, Robert, Owen, Cadwalader), that
was compiled from materials furnished in October 1797 by John Evans,Sr.(son
of John, grandson of Cadwallader) and his sister Elizabeth. The data were
taken down by Cadwallader Evans of Philadelphia (son of Rowland). It
includes where each brother lived in Gwynedd. I think these are one and the
same. Is this what Rowland has? Since we don't know his descent, he will
have to tell us.
There is a mention of a manuscript in the possession of Hannah Evans
of Moorestown which relates to the Griffith branch. That is one I would like
to see. The book being written so long ago, we never tried to trace Hannah.
All for now-
Priscilla
Roland and Everyone,
I thought I saw a ship's list for the "Robert and Elizabeth" posted on
the internet (I think someone on Rootsweb's ships' list site gave me the web
address for it). I also saw a list for the "Lyon", but neither mentioned my
(and Priscilla's) Griffith John. I've read that he came over in 1690 but one
lady told me it was 1693. I would love to find the name of the ship he came
over on and the exact date! I do not know if the lists for the "Lyon" and the
"Robert and Elizabeth" were complete lists or not. I did not save the
addresses since they didn't help me. I am no longer on the ships' list
mailing list either but isn't that how we found each other, Beth? Are you
still on the list? Maybe someone there could help us or someone at Merion or
Gwynedd meeting would have some records.
Susan
Hi Cousins,
Well, I feel like a real dunce ~ I've lived here for over 25 years & never looked into a local Welsh Society ~ duh. So I've contacted the Colorado Welsh Society & will see what their interests are (I'm not interested in just a club), but that brought me to the National Welsh-American Foundation which seems like a rather hefty organization on both sides of the Atlantic. Might anyone be a member and monitoring their newsletters & activities? Their web site is www.wales-usa.org and lists a number of other organizations & sites, maybe some new resources for us. I've bookmarked it, but am afraid I'll have to explore it more a bit later.
Through an error @ information, I spoke with the Germantown Historical Society in PA.. Although I was really looking for the Historical Society of PA, I got a kick out of the fact that the guy's name was David T. Moore - the exact name of the archivist at the NLW in Bangor's Manuscript Dept.. He got a kick out of it too. He also works at the Genealogical Society of PA. They're in a board meeting today so I'll contact them later. I did talk to the Historical Society and, like the Germantown society, they have rates for research by mail & also in person. I would dearly love to go there myself, and undoubtedly will, but it's unlikely until August when I'll visit my family, so I'll post the information here in case anyone gets there before me:
Historical Society of Pennsylvania
215-732-6200
Research by mail = $45 for 1st hour, $35 each additional hour. The $45 includes up to 20 pages of copies & written report including sources.
Research in person = $5 per day: Tues., Thurs., Fri. & Sat. - 10:00 - 4:00, Wed. - 2:00 - 8:00
If anyone does go & needs all the info. I have on the ship, Robert & Elizabeth, contact me (it's been posted in the past). They said they do have some passenger lists, but of course won't look anything up without $.
Also, in case anyone is in the neighborhood, research at the Genealogical Records @ the State Archives in Harrisburg, PA, is free.
More later, Beth.
Hello all,
Re:
Historical Society of Pennsylvania
If anyone does go & needs all the info. I have on the ship, Robert &
Elizabeth, contact me (it's been posted in the past). They said they do
have some passenger lists, but of course won't look anything up without $.
==================
Save your $. The passenger list for the Robert and Elizabeth has
been searched for repeatedly in Philadelphia. It doesn't exist there. My
uncle, Bill Morris, who will be going on the trip to Wales, and his son,
Ray, have turned that place upside down. In fact Ray lived in an apartment
on the same block and spent countless hours sorting through those records.
If it was there it would have been found long ago. That's a highly sort
after document by more people than you can imagine. Frankly, I doubt that it
exists, although I would love to be proven wrong. I will be making a trip
there at first opportunity for some other things. I can do some quick
lookups if anyone needs something and can be specific with their reference.
Roland
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Hello again,
Thinking back to the remark Rowland made regarding my leading you to the
wilds, and taking the advice of Keith who told me to add to my history of
Wales by searching the Net for Thomas Tedford, I share with you a paragraph
from his life story. Chapter 2 of the book:
A curious account has been preserved of the journey of
an Irish Viceroy across North Wales towards
Dublin in
1685. The roads were so horrible that instead of the
Viceroy being borne along in his coach, the coach
itself
had to be borne after him the greater part of the
way. He
was five hours in travelling between St. Asaph and
Conway, a distance of only fourteen miles. Between
Conway and Beaumaris he was forced to walk, while
his
wife was borne along in a litter. The carriages were
usually taken to pieces at Conway and carried on the
shoulders of stout Welsh peasants to be embarked
at the
Straits of Menai.
Website:
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/biography/TheLifeofThomasT
elford/chap2.html
Be sure to read the paragraph after this for the "evils" of horse drawn
carriages! <G>
At least there is some general information that helps paint the life of
Evan ap Robert ap Lewis and family.
Take care,
Emily
Greetings,
Thank you Beth for finding Rowland Evans and making a contact with Mr. Jones.
I do hope we can be placed in contact with the Bala contingency. With luck,
maybe we can locale an address for Rowland Evans, but given his position, I'm
sure that CNN will not distribute it.
The only two possibilities that come to mind at the moment would be to write a
very professional letter to CNN with your lineage (to show you are connected
and are greatly into genealogy, since Rowland is, also) and to give your email
and snail address. Ask that the letter be passed on to him. You may wish to
list him know about the list and our group going this summer. Perhaps if he
sees the interest and depth to which we work, he may wish to contact you.
The other possibility would be to contact the Welsh Society to see if they
have
a membership list with addresses and that hopefully he has joined in the past.
Thanks Susan for posting the site. I couldn't get into it, but when through
another way. The URL I used was:
<http://cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/evans.rowland.html>http://cnn.com/CNN
/anchors_reporters/evans.rowland.html
Let me know if what you found was different. Thanks.
KEITH:
I received a message from Keith Robinson this evening...which I still must
answer. This is part of his msg. I'm not sure what he means by joining our
group. Is that the group who is visiting or the email list. I shall clarify
this, but in case he means the list (He is interested in the history of the
area and may also be interested in what we know as he wants to add more
historical info to his webpages. I don't know as yet.) Comments?
BTW, Keith would like to know if ANYONE on the list is a Rotary Club
member....whether you are going to Wales with us or not. Please step forward,
if so. It may help us get onto his website or in the local news.
Keith writes, in part:
Yes, I will be including lots more history when I get the time to add it.
Probably the most fascinating activity you could do here is the "Town Walk"
which is a historical tour around the town - on foot - following the leaflet
which describes all the historically interesting places in Bala. My fellow
Rotarian, Alun, is thinking of re-starting the conducted version of the walk.
I'm off on business to Edinburgh tomorrow, about 11 hours driving in all!
if you want to expand your historical interest in the region, look up about
Thomas Telford. He was a famous Civil Engineer and had major influence in this
area, with flood defences, road construction, canal construction and some
fabulous bridges which still carry traffic today over to the Isle of Anglesey
(Menai and Britannia bridges).
Best regards, Keith.
P.S. I'd love to join your gang sometime!
TRIP:
Gary -- how are your plans progressing?
Jim -- are you still going?
I would be interested in knowing if anyone has priced a car as yet. There's
still plenty of time to do that, but I'm looking for a good deal and wish to
compare companies, etc. I'm still debating if I will drive a stick (cost
less,
but are a pain to do on the left side) or keep Priscilla from having a
heart-attack and just go with an automatic! <G>
What an adventure! I can see us tooling around the backroads (even caravan
style with Rowland following), pausing for the sheep & photos (better bring a
lunch! <G>) and laughing our heads off at getting lost as we drive in such
wilderness on the WRONG side of the bumpy, narrow road! We have to laugh or
I'd be in tears! <G>
Gotta run!
Best wishes, all.
Emily
Hi Everyone!
Beth's interesting info on Rowland Evans and the Evans Family Manuscript
got me a little curious, so I did a search on the internet for Rowland Evans
and here is what I found. I thought all of you would be interested in knowing
a little about our cousin and his job at CNN. He is an author, too! <A
HREF="http://www-cgi.cnn.com/cgi-bin/anchors.reporters/pick">Click here: CNN
Anchors & Reporters - Rowland Evans</A>
Also, I believe that in the book, "Historical Collections of Gwynedd",
that it is stated that the Evans Family Manuscript at that time belonged to a
Rowland Evans or a Mrs. Rowland Evans. (Maybe you could check that for me in
your book, Priscilla, if you have time.) I'm wondering if Rowland Evans of
CNN could be a direct descendant of this Rowland Evans and that is why he has
the genealogy manuscript!
Susan
I had an interesting conversation with David Jones in PA. He's a past president of the Welsh Society in Philadelphia which he proudly told me is 272 years old. We talked about a few things, and he said they have no information on the ship, "Robert & Elizabeth". He gave me another contact & took my name down for someone else in the society, so I'll see where those lead.
Apparently they just had their annual (272nd) St. David's Day Banquet on Saturday, and he said the Evans line was well represented, including A TABLE-FULL FROM THE BALA AREA IN WALES. Imagine! He'll check to see if he can find addresses, etc.
They honor a successful Welsh descendent every year, and he said last year they honored Rowland Evans of CNN who is quite a genealogist (in addition to being one of our relatives it seems). He said he was named after Rowland Ellis to whom he is also related (see Merion in the Welsh Tract). Mr. Jones said he's very knowledgeable about Evans history in Wales & America, and -here's my favorite part- when asked where he found all the old documents he quoted, Rowland said, "I have them myself." Mr. Jones didn't have an address, so I quickly dropped an e-mail to CNN asking about contacting him. Perhaps someone else may know of another way to get to him, but this is where I am so far.
That's all I know. Beth.
Greetings,
Someone on the Powys email list saw my plans for researching in Wales and
sent the following. I wanted all of you to know the info, so here's the
msg., forwarded:
>Hi Emily
>
>Just in case I haven't sent you the following info - it might help
>with your visit to Wales. I can see that you have already made a
>trip.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>General Help on Wales - TICs, NLW, Local Archives offices, etc
>
>Some useful contacts:
>
>The main Wales Tourist Board (WTB) Website is:
>
>http://www.tourism.wales.gov.uk/
>
>The WTB can mail you brochures and some local information
>
>>From their Website you can obtain contact details for local Tourist
>Information Offices (TICs). Some Welsh TICs are on email.
>
>Local TICs can supply lists of approved accommodation - you may be
>able to book through them or reserve places. They can also send
>brochures and a wider range of local publicity material.
>-------------------
>
>If you need to visit an archive office covering your area of
>interest they may have a Website. Try looking at the details for
>Welsh Archive Offices on the 'Archives Online' Website for a URL and
>also contact details, opening times, days, etc at:
>http://www.hmc.gov.uk/archon/archon.htm
>
>The local archives office should have lists available of
>microfilms/fiche held for that county's parish registers (NB Powys
>Archives Office does not hold original PRs), 19C census returns,
>directories, etc. The lists may be online or they may be able to
>post them to you.
>
>NB: To avoid disappointment in the case of any archive office it's
>wise to find out opening days/times in advance and book film/fiche
>readers a week or preferably two weeks in advance to be sure of a
>place. Also state what kind of records you think you will need. Some
>documents stored offsite may have to be ordered a number of days in
>advance of your visit.
>
>For example at Powys Archives Office (my 'local') I know of a couple
>from New Zealand who just turned up and found all the places taken.
>A north of England couple appeared at the door and found it was a
>day the Office was closed to the public.
>A family group visiting from Canada last year were luckier - they
>just squeezed onto one spare reader for a few hours. Asking for
>assistance they stated that during the morning they had found some
>family buried in a graveyard 'just up the road' but couldn't
>remember the name of the place. After searching the area around
>Llandrindod on maps for some time archives staff eventually realised
>that they meant a village about 60 miles up the road - a long way in
>UK terms!
>----------------------
>
>National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth, Website:
>http://www.llgc.org.uk/ Some of their holdings are listed online.
>
>You could email them to find out if they have what you need. They
>hold pre-1858 Welsh Wills and an index to them. They have the GRO
>Births, Marriages and Deaths Index on microfiche (aka St
>Catherines's House Index) and census microfilms for Wales. Some
>parish registers and copies of them. They are a Diocesan Archive
>Office so hold some 'parish chest' material.
>
>NLW does not take bookings for fiche/film readers. You would be
>advised to arrive as near as possible to opening time as the
>microfilm/fiche readers can fill up quickly! You will need
>identification and must fill in a form for a day's use of the
>library when you arrive.
>
>If you need original manuscripts or books, they can take up to 30
>minutes before they are presented to you.
>
>You can make use of that time to consult indexes, directories,
>borrow CD-ROMs or order maps from the maproom (maps can take up to
>15-20 minutes before they are produced).
>-----------------------
>
>If you are a member of the local FHS do seek help from the
>organisation in advance. There will be transcriptions, etc available
>and other members may be researching the same family. You might find
>a member is available to assist you when you are in the area - their
>librarian will have much information of use to you.
>
>If not a member it would be well worth joining and taking advantage
>of their indexes, publications and other facilities.
>
>For a list of FHSs of Wales and their Websites look at:
>http://www.kc3ltd.co.uk/~micronic/walesfhs.htm
>
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I've seen this before, it's slightly off topic, but enjoyable...
LIFE IN THE 1500's
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the b.o. Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water".
Houses had thatched roofs. Thick straw piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the pets... dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. So, they found if they made beds with big posts and hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that problem. Hence those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies. I wonder if this is where we get the saying " Good night and don't let the bed bugs bite...
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake".
England is old and small, and they started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones to a house and reuse the grave. In reopening these coffins, one out of 25 imes worms got into the wood. After eating off wormy trenchers, they would get "trench mouth."
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the "upper crust".
Greetings!
Travelers, we have reservations "OUR" home!
I spoke with Mrs. Daives this morning and she will hold two rooms for
Roland, his uncle, Priscilla and I for the above dates. Each room has two
beds. I told her we would arrive in separate groups and probably after
dinner as we may wish to make stops along the way. Roland, you and your
uncle may like to stop in Llangollen (very nice town) on your way, and I
know Prisiclla and I will find some places to explore from Holyhead to
Frongoch.
The price is 20 pounds per night and there is no need to send money now as
she knows who I am. She remembered me from last year and hasn't returned
my letter as she was waiting to send new brochures which are being printed.
This trip is finally coming together! How exciting!!! After 300 years,
descendants of Evan ap Robert ap Lewis are returning to meet each other!
BTW, is anyone planning on taking a laptop? If so, we could email the list
and keep them up to date. (I'm sure we won't find a cyberbar nearby. )
Maybe Roland's contact there (Keith) or a connection to the news website I
sent yesterday could be our "lifeline" to all of you. I'll keep working on
the online news aspect. I have tried to contact them. Too bad we won't
have a scanner to forward pictures, but upon our return........<G>
BTW, I will not be available from Mar 15 to Mar 20. I'll be at a
conference in NYC (and will be taking in the St. Paddy's Day Parade....I'm
Irish, also! <G> .....Oh, what luck of the Irish. My friend with whom I'm
going is the one with the Irish Cottage that I'll visit this summer. She
knows the pub owner in NYC whose brother owns the same named pub in Ireland
in her town......I'll tip a pint of Guinness to our trip for good luck!)
Anyway (sorry about the excitement), Beth ---you never said if you would
take over the list in my absence or not. I'm not greatly concerned with
the Mar trip, but will need you in July. I'll be gone July 15 and return
Aug 7.
Gotta run....
Best wishes,
Emily
Greetings,
> The online paper is:
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> http://www.bala.wales.com/
The email address at the bottom of this page will put you in touch with
Keith Robinson, the transplanted Englishman in Bala I've been in touch with. He
home address is:
Keith(a)bala-wales.com
This is the page he is creating, along with another page that he tells me
will appear shortly. He and I have certainly enjoyed corresponding, and I'm sure
he would be love to hear from the rest of you as well. I have taken the liberty
of inviting him to dinner with us one evening in Bala. He recommends a place
called 'Plas yn Dre' (meaning "House in the town") for a group gathering. Emily,
maybe you know this place? Anyway, drop in and say hello to Keith.
Roland
Greetings,
Ok, NOW, I really do believe we are going to the wilderness as Roland
mentioned!
Since the British invented the sandwich (Remember the story of the Earl of
Sandwich who was too busy gambling to stop to eat and ordered meat between
two pieces of bread????), this article really stuck me as FUNNY! (But you
still won't see a MacDonalds in Bala, etc.)
From the Courier Online Newspaper I just sent you:
UK's Sandwich Success
Sandwiches are now the UK's most popular fast food, with
consumers spending more on commercially made sandwiches
than any other fast food.
Speaking at the British Sandwich Association Luncheon in
London, Agriculture Minister of State, Joyce Quin,
congratulated the industry on securing the top spot in Europe
for sandwich sales:
"In the UK there has been an extraordinary revolution in
lifestyle eating in the past decade, with sandwiches and snacks
becoming a key part of the food industry. This market is now
valued in excess of £3.25 billion and is growing at around
13% per annum.
"The British Sandwich Association has been instrumental in
upholding quality and standards in this rapidly expanding
market - an authoritative voice for all those involved in the
production, distribution and retailing of sandwiches in the
UK."