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Hi all,
I have an idea that may sound stupid, but here goes anyway. Instead of
trying to focus on the whole of the proposed bylaws, why don't we take it
one or two articles at a time? It may be pointless to discuss all of them
one by one, but it may open all of our eyes up a little more to what's
going on with FLGenWeb. I'll start off...
ARTICLE I. NAME
>
>The name of this organization shall be "The FLGenWeb Project." The name,
"The >FLGenWeb Project," is a service mark and reserved exclusively for
The >FLGenWeb Project and any websites representing The FLGenWeb Project
>participating as part of "The USGenWeb Project".
Ok...this is straight forward and to the point. I have a feeling that this
is one of the ones that we can all semi-agree on.
> ARTICLE II. PURPOSE
>Section 1. The FLGenWeb Project is an organized group of volunteers
working to >create an online center for genealogical research by linking
every county in >Florida. The purpose of this organization shall be to
gather genealogical and >historical information for free online access by
researchers.
This is another one that I think we can all kind of agree on. We are all
volunteers working to pull information together because in most cases
that's what we enjoy doing. At least this is true for me.
I decided to help Ann Marlow with Holmes County, FL because I enjoy helping
people. The guidelines that are already in place have been a tremendous
help to Ann and I in putting Holmes County online. Without them, I'm sure
we would not have had such an easy time.
Guidelines and bylaws are supposed to help make things run more smoothly.
But we can't allow all this to interrupt what we have sent out to
accomplish in the first place. From the pages for different counties in the
FLGenWeb project that I have looked at, (I looked at many while preparing
Holmes County!) I do not feel that the proposed bylaws as they are now
would really have much impact. The reason I say this is because for the
majority of what I read in the bylaws, "most" of the county pages already
go along those lines.
When we hear guidelines, rules and bylaws, there is this little bell that
goes off. We start to fear losing control of those things that we have
controlled all along. Instead of fearing these words, it would suit all of
our purposes to work with them and iron them down to something we can all
be happy with.
I apologize for such a long message, but for me the proposed bylaws are in
a way a part of what we are all trying to do. We all want to get the
information online and we all want to protect that information. I certainly
did not decide to help with Holmes County or Palm Beach County because I
thought it would be easy. I decided to help because I wanted to help others
and you all seemed like a good bunch to do that with!
It feels like family working together in FLGenWeb. I hope it stays that way!
Sincerely,
Melinda Trull Heath
Co-Coordinator Holmes County, FLGenWeb
Caretaker Palm Beach County, FLGenWeb
At 08:45 AM 9/9/98 -0400, Steve and Barb wrote:
>I also agree. I JUST doubled my file by asking a query. While they can be
>cumbersome and a pain to deal with, especially if you are not using
GenConnect,
>they are helpful and I've found loads of new friends/family thru it .
Besides
>which what is the big deal about having them?
>
>BarbL
>
>AHall10643(a)aol.com wrote:
Barb, my comments are not specifically directed at the above. Your message
simply serves as a convenient vehicle for reply.
All - My opinion that Query pages are a waste of time will not be changed
by others repeatedly stating their position. That opinion is based on 10
years experience in doing genealogy on line. If I didn't think things
change as we move forward, I'd still be running my DOS based genealogy BBS.
Days ago, I agreed that query pages should remain a requirement for
FLGenWeb pages. My county has, and will continue to have a query page.
Let's address some of the other issues in the by-laws.
Thanks to all for a lively discussion, its great that everyone is showing
an interest.
Regards to all,
Bob
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>> Well, I guess I will just add my .02 cents worth on this, I too use query
>> pages when I visit a site, I have found them to be very helpful. I have
>> added to my family several times by people responding to my queries.
>> Also....when we agreed to take on a County, did we not all read the
>> *requirements* for a County Website, and basically agree with them??? I
>> agree it should be mandatory. On our Holmes Co. site, we use Gen-
>> Connect.....basically does it all for you, very little maintenance that
I can
>> tell so far.
>> Okay, that's my feelings on the matter, since I am so new to the project, I
>> have basically been reading others comments and learning. (or trying)
<grin>
>> Ann Marlow Hall
>> CC Holmes
>> >
>> > I also vote that a query page is mandatory, I use them all the time when
>> > reseraching. I have included the date of submittal on the query when
I post
>> > it. Also I check back to original submitter to see if the query is still
>> > valid. If it isn't I take the query off of the page. I don't really
have
>> > enough queries yet to have to archive the unanswered ones yet.
>> >
>> > Deborah Byrd
>> >
>> > >There is no excuse for not providing a query page - they have been
part of
>> > >the project since 1996 and they are a major source of information
for many
>> > >researchers. I host a county in Indiana and there have been many
success
>> > >stories reported to me since September 1996, when I put the page
online.
>> > >If a county coordinator feels he/she does not have time to maintain
such a
>> > >page, there is an automatic query system that can be implemented that
>> > >requires very little maintenance on the part of the county coordinator
>> > >(read more about this at
>> > >http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/querymgmt.html#GenConnect).
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>> I also vote that a query page is mandatory, I use them all the time when
>> reseraching. I have included the date of submittal on the query when I po=
>> st
>> it. Also I check back to original submitter to see if the query is still
>> valid. If it isn't I take the query off of the page. I don't really have
>> enough queries yet to have to archive the unanswered ones yet.
>>
>> Deborah Byrd
>>
>> >There is no excuse for not providing a query page - they have been part o=
>> f
>> >the project since 1996 and they are a major source of information for man=
>> y
>> >researchers. I host a county in Indiana and there have been many success
>> >stories reported to me since September 1996, when I put the page online.
>> >If a county coordinator feels he/she does not have time to maintain such =
>> a
>> >page, there is an automatic query system that can be implemented that
>> >requires very little maintenance on the part of the county coordinator
>> >(read more about this at
>> >http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/querymgmt.html#GenConnect).
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >Cathy Burnsed
>> >
>> >%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%
>> >Cathy (GARDENOUR) Burnsed ~ ~ ~ Librarian ~ ~ ~ cburnsed(a)geocities.com
>> >Personal Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ http://www.afn.org/~afn30091/index.html
>> >Wells County INGenWeb Project ~ ~ ~ ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~inwells/
>> >USGenWeb Archives, FL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/fl/flfiles.htm
>> >
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>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
USGenWeb National Advisory Board
USGenWeb County Coordinator Representative:
Northeast/North Central Central Region
County Coordinator Essex, County, MA
County Coordinator Citrus, County, FL
Town Coordinator Newbury, MA
Town Coordinator Newburyport, MA
--------------------------------------------------
http://www.hertge.com/essex
e-mail: essxbook(a)citrus.infi.net
P.O. Box 811 Lecanto, FL 34460-0811
(352) 527-2270
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Officially responding to Roll Call...
Maybe I can get this one through...
Melinda Trull Heath
Co-Coordinator Holmes County, FLGenWeb
Caretaker Palm Beach County, FLGenWeb
I also agree. I JUST doubled my file by asking a query. While they can be
cumbersome and a pain to deal with, especially if you are not using GenConnect,
they are helpful and I've found loads of new friends/family thru it . Besides
which what is the big deal about having them?
BarbL
AHall10643(a)aol.com wrote:
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> Well, I guess I will just add my .02 cents worth on this, I too use query
> pages when I visit a site, I have found them to be very helpful. I have
> added to my family several times by people responding to my queries.
> Also....when we agreed to take on a County, did we not all read the
> *requirements* for a County Website, and basically agree with them??? I
> agree it should be mandatory. On our Holmes Co. site, we use Gen-
> Connect.....basically does it all for you, very little maintenance that I can
> tell so far.
> Okay, that's my feelings on the matter, since I am so new to the project, I
> have basically been reading others comments and learning. (or trying) <grin>
> Ann Marlow Hall
> CC Holmes
> >
> > I also vote that a query page is mandatory, I use them all the time when
> > reseraching. I have included the date of submittal on the query when I post
> > it. Also I check back to original submitter to see if the query is still
> > valid. If it isn't I take the query off of the page. I don't really have
> > enough queries yet to have to archive the unanswered ones yet.
> >
> > Deborah Byrd
> >
> > >There is no excuse for not providing a query page - they have been part of
> > >the project since 1996 and they are a major source of information for many
> > >researchers. I host a county in Indiana and there have been many success
> > >stories reported to me since September 1996, when I put the page online.
> > >If a county coordinator feels he/she does not have time to maintain such a
> > >page, there is an automatic query system that can be implemented that
> > >requires very little maintenance on the part of the county coordinator
> > >(read more about this at
> > >http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/querymgmt.html#GenConnect).
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> I also vote that a query page is mandatory, I use them all the time when
> reseraching. I have included the date of submittal on the query when I po=
> st
> it. Also I check back to original submitter to see if the query is still
> valid. If it isn't I take the query off of the page. I don't really have
> enough queries yet to have to archive the unanswered ones yet.
>
> Deborah Byrd
>
> >There is no excuse for not providing a query page - they have been part o=
> f
> >the project since 1996 and they are a major source of information for man=
> y
> >researchers. I host a county in Indiana and there have been many success
> >stories reported to me since September 1996, when I put the page online.
> >If a county coordinator feels he/she does not have time to maintain such =
> a
> >page, there is an automatic query system that can be implemented that
> >requires very little maintenance on the part of the county coordinator
> >(read more about this at
> >http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/querymgmt.html#GenConnect).
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Cathy Burnsed
> >
> >%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%
> >Cathy (GARDENOUR) Burnsed ~ ~ ~ Librarian ~ ~ ~ cburnsed(a)geocities.com
> >Personal Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ http://www.afn.org/~afn30091/index.html
> >Wells County INGenWeb Project ~ ~ ~ ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~inwells/
> >USGenWeb Archives, FL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/fl/flfiles.htm
> >
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Well, I guess I will just add my .02 cents worth on this, I too use query
pages when I visit a site, I have found them to be very helpful. I have
added to my family several times by people responding to my queries.
Also....when we agreed to take on a County, did we not all read the
*requirements* for a County Website, and basically agree with them??? I
agree it should be mandatory. On our Holmes Co. site, we use Gen-
Connect.....basically does it all for you, very little maintenance that I can
tell so far.
Okay, that's my feelings on the matter, since I am so new to the project, I
have basically been reading others comments and learning. (or trying) <grin>
Ann Marlow Hall
CC Holmes
>
> I also vote that a query page is mandatory, I use them all the time when
> reseraching. I have included the date of submittal on the query when I post
> it. Also I check back to original submitter to see if the query is still
> valid. If it isn't I take the query off of the page. I don't really have
> enough queries yet to have to archive the unanswered ones yet.
>
> Deborah Byrd
>
> >There is no excuse for not providing a query page - they have been part of
> >the project since 1996 and they are a major source of information for many
> >researchers. I host a county in Indiana and there have been many success
> >stories reported to me since September 1996, when I put the page online.
> >If a county coordinator feels he/she does not have time to maintain such a
> >page, there is an automatic query system that can be implemented that
> >requires very little maintenance on the part of the county coordinator
> >(read more about this at
> >http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/querymgmt.html#GenConnect).
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I also vote that a query page is mandatory, I use them all the time when
reseraching. I have included the date of submittal on the query when I po=
st
it. Also I check back to original submitter to see if the query is still
valid. If it isn't I take the query off of the page. I don't really have
enough queries yet to have to archive the unanswered ones yet.
Deborah Byrd
>There is no excuse for not providing a query page - they have been part o=
f
>the project since 1996 and they are a major source of information for man=
y
>researchers. I host a county in Indiana and there have been many success
>stories reported to me since September 1996, when I put the page online.
>If a county coordinator feels he/she does not have time to maintain such =
a
>page, there is an automatic query system that can be implemented that
>requires very little maintenance on the part of the county coordinator
>(read more about this at
>http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/querymgmt.html#GenConnect).
>
>Thank you.
>
>Cathy Burnsed
>
>%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%
>Cathy (GARDENOUR) Burnsed ~ ~ ~ Librarian ~ ~ ~ cburnsed(a)geocities.com
>Personal Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ http://www.afn.org/~afn30091/index.html
>Wells County INGenWeb Project ~ ~ ~ ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~inwells/
>USGenWeb Archives, FL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/fl/flfiles.htm
>
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> Section 2. There will be a position of State Coordinator. The State
> Coordinator shall be elected by a majority of the FLGenWeb Membership. The
> term of office shall be one calendar year.
> [Beginning when? Probably should coincide with national i.e.. July 1999 next
election]*** This is stated in another section. We deliberatly avoided the
national election. Do your local elections coincide with the national
election? Seperation of the elections may avoid confusion. ***
>
> Section 3. There will be a position of Assistant State Coordinator. This
> position shall be an appointed by the State Coordinator.
> [The ASC should be elected under same rules as Advisory Board and serve 2
years, this gives continuity if SC changes and also has person in such a high
position (in effect the heir apparent) elected by the volunteers]*** Good
Point to discuss. There are pros and cons to both positions. ***
It would seem if you want a continuity of terms that each should be a 2 yr.
position rotating on odd years. Otherwise there would be a lap over every
other year.
I would like to see as little strings attached as possible. We easily over
regulate ourselves.
Our Lake Co. Gen. Society has a nucleus group of 3 who meet regularly with me
to discuss how each of us can enhance the others projects. They have been
very supportive of the Lake Co. Page. I enjoy their input.
Fran
Did you know that the way things are set up now, with the
USGenWeb Bylaws and our lack of Guidelines, that the
FLGenWeb State Coordinator is in a position where he is
supposed to look through our pages and make sure we follow
those bylaws to the letter. If we don't, he is supposed to
ask us to come into compliance. If we do not and he follows
the rules, he should remove our link from the state pages.
But he believes as I do that we should have a little say in
the matter. (We did have one, but we sat quietly in the
corner.)
No one here has made any mandates, just the opposite. We
have tried to help those that oppose having to have a Query
Page. (Maybe FLGenWeb can do it for counties not wishing to
have one. FLGenWeb would still meet USGenWeb bylaws, but
technically your county, wouldn't)
Have you read the Proposed Bylaws? I tried hard to make
them friendly to the those of us who want to do it "our
way". Unless you want to strictly follow the USGenWeb
Bylaws (Technically FLGenWeb has to, but FLGenWeb can
encourage and protect your individuality with our
Guidelines/Bylaws), help us out.
Florida as a group stood quietly and watched the USGenWeb
Bylaws voted in without much discussion at all. Our country
sort of works like that doesn't it. I've worked with
elected officials that say, "If we keep this low key and be
really quiet, we can pass this." I do not want to keep this
low key, I want you to read what everyone has to say even if
it is complaining about too much email. Think about it,
this is your chance to make one little tiny piece of your
existence conform more closely to the ideal that you think
it should. If you, we do a good enough job, maybe USGenWeb
will notice and realize that the Volunteer and his
individual pages really are the power here.
Jim
Jim and Debbie Powell
Family History Surname Connections
Kentucky..POWELL..MADISON..CLAYTON..WINSTEAD..BOURLAND..HIBBS
UTLEY..EARLE..BUNTIN..MOORE..WILLIAMS..TAPP..WICKLIFFE
North Carolina/South
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I wan't referring to myself. The amount of e-mail isn't bothering me - but
appears to be bothering others .
SeaGee69(a)aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/8/98 9:39:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> stevel(a)bellatlantic.net writes:
>
> << Reply-to: stevel(a)bellatlantic.net
> To: FLGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> While yes this discussion has caused alot of e-mail - asking to do this
> privately sort of takes the idea of community and "talking it out" to a
> "closed door" level. I believe the purpose of the state mailing list
> is to get ideas,etc. if I do this privately then how is anyone else to
> put in their 2 cents or 14 cents (inflation you know). Makes it a tad
> harder
>
> barbL
> Union
> >
> barbL--I agree with you:
> I thought it was a "discussion" list.
>
> To reduce the number of emails, don't we have a FLGEN-D(a)rootsweb.com (digest
> mode)?
>
> I do agree we generated a lot of discussion and many were lengthy (all the
> bylaws and such), but we all should have a chance to speak our thoughts on the
> matter since it will affect us all. I would not want to be left out of
> decisions made that affect me (I'm already fuming over the school busing
> issue).
>
> It's so good to hear from everyone; maybe the discussion has us all
> communicating.
>
> Cindy
> Washington Co
As soon as I can get the list in my name, I.ve considered having the List in
Digest Mode.
Darrel
SeaGee69(a)aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/8/98 9:39:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> stevel(a)bellatlantic.net writes:
>
> << Reply-to: stevel(a)bellatlantic.net
> To: FLGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
> While yes this discussion has caused alot of e-mail - asking to do this
> privately sort of takes the idea of community and "talking it out" to a
> "closed door" level. I believe the purpose of the state mailing list
> is to get ideas,etc. if I do this privately then how is anyone else to
> put in their 2 cents or 14 cents (inflation you know). Makes it a tad
> harder
>
> barbL
> Union
> >
> barbL--I agree with you:
> I thought it was a "discussion" list.
>
> To reduce the number of emails, don't we have a FLGEN-D(a)rootsweb.com (digest
> mode)?
>
> I do agree we generated a lot of discussion and many were lengthy (all the
> bylaws and such), but we all should have a chance to speak our thoughts on the
> matter since it will affect us all. I would not want to be left out of
> decisions made that affect me (I'm already fuming over the school busing
> issue).
>
> It's so good to hear from everyone; maybe the discussion has us all
> communicating.
>
> Cindy
> Washington Co
>
I have created a monster. :-)
Now we are generating e-mails to discuss how to lower the number of e-mails.
Life is such fun. <Big Grin>
Sorry, guys, I am sorry to have spouted off the other day, but it really is
frustrating to come in and find 50+ e-mails generated in <24 hours by less
than 10 people. My main point (and this has been seconded by at least 10
members in private e-mail) is that when this type of discussion is going on,
those of us who don't have time, don't read any of them. It then comes to the
point that we are arbitrarily (sp?) deleting ALL the FLGEN emails. We can't
tell what is valuable info and what isn't. (Yes, most of us segregate).
This has simply gotten way out of hand, and is being regulated to death.
1) To query or not to query -- has anyone checked? Hasn't this been a
requirement from the very beginning? So I was told.
2) Manditory placing on state archive page? -- who owns the copyrights on
these items? Certainly not the FLGenWeb. Are we gonna disregard nat'l
copyright laws and just put these items anywhere and everywhere? Just because
it's a "bylaw"?
3) Have to do this and have to do that --- Before you start making too many
mandates, think this through. There are approx ten of you deeply involved in
this. There are 67 (sixty-seven) counties in the state of Florida.
That means there are some forty- or fifty-some-odd people out there who are
just happy doing our thing. We are volunteers. That means we don't get paid,
and do this out of the goodness of our hearts (like you). You start throwing a
bunch of mandates and by-laws and "you have to do it my way"s out, and you may
find yourself with the words "Adopt Me" written far too much on your County
Selection List.
Now that I have clogged e-boxes with mail like I was griping about myself, <G>
Please remember that some of us just don't have the time to sit down and read
50-100 e-mails at a time. If there is a big discussion going on, and something
else of dire importance needs putting out, you need to put special care into
it, because most of us would delete it w/o opening.
Sorry again for spouting off in the other one (and for taking time in this
one),
Harvey Greene
While yes this discussion has caused alot of e-mail - asking to do this
privately sort of takes the idea of community and "talking it out" to a
"closed door" level. I believe the purpose of the state mailing list
is to get ideas,etc. if I do this privately then how is anyone else to
put in their 2 cents or 14 cents (inflation you know). Makes it a tad
harder
barbL
Union
I think the big deal with loss of control - is just that. I foreone
have no problem linking my page to the Archives - but hypothetical here
- what if I have a contributor who ONLY wishes my site to have the
information on it - doesn't want USGenWeb to have it ( I realize this is
a bit unrealistic but it HAS happened) andway I stick it into my
digital library. While yes it's double work ( which I honestly don't
mind) I'm still making sure the site or thing (ie picture) is archived
into the site somewhere for all to see. Not everything in our county
archives is duplicated in the USGenWeb archives. The person has to ask
for it to be in the state/county archive - sometimes e-mailing the CC is
easier one stop deal.
BarbL
Good idea Holly!! It would definetly take a burden off of the ones who don't
want it and it would allow others to help who say don't know HTML or don't wish
to learn it :o)
BarbL
Union County
Holly Timm wrote:
> Thought I would stick some comments in here... personal ones, not official
> USGW Board comments! I understand Bob's feelings about *requiring* a CC to
> have a Query Board, can it not be phrased so that there must be a Query
> Board/page for a county but that ownership and maintenance of same may be
> handled by other than the CC as long as the CC links the county to it? I
> would dearly love to find someone to maintain my Query Boards as I am in
> the "never any luck posting or reading queries" group <grin>
>
> At 09:56 AM 9/7/1998 -0400, Liane wrote:
> >Given that the USGenWeb County Page Guidelines require a Query Page of some
> >sort, this is probably a non-issue.
> >
> >That said (or typed), I would like to say that I agree with Bob -- I cannot
> >speak to the burden that Query Pages place on CCs, but I personally have had
> >far, far more success using mail-lists than I have any Query Pages. I think
> >Bob is correct (as I understand him) in believing that Query Pages are being
> >supplanted by mail-lists.
> >
> >Of, course, mail-lists themselves offer their own administrative burden....
> >
> >Liane
> >let(a)nr.infi.net
> >
> >
> >
> Holly Timm *** http://www.rootsweb.com/~hft/
> KYGenWeb: SE Kentucky at http://www.rootsweb.com/~seky/
> NYGenWeb: Dutchess & Albany Counties
> USGenWeb Archives Census Project Webmaster
> USGenWeb CC Representative - SE/Mid-Atlantic Region
>
> ==== FLGEN Mailing List ====
> Have you submitted your transcribed records to the
> FLGenWeb Project Archives yet??????
In a message dated 9/8/98 9:39:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
stevel(a)bellatlantic.net writes:
<< Reply-to: stevel(a)bellatlantic.net
To: FLGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
While yes this discussion has caused alot of e-mail - asking to do this
privately sort of takes the idea of community and "talking it out" to a
"closed door" level. I believe the purpose of the state mailing list
is to get ideas,etc. if I do this privately then how is anyone else to
put in their 2 cents or 14 cents (inflation you know). Makes it a tad
harder
barbL
Union
>
barbL--I agree with you:
I thought it was a "discussion" list.
To reduce the number of emails, don't we have a FLGEN-D(a)rootsweb.com (digest
mode)?
I do agree we generated a lot of discussion and many were lengthy (all the
bylaws and such), but we all should have a chance to speak our thoughts on the
matter since it will affect us all. I would not want to be left out of
decisions made that affect me (I'm already fuming over the school busing
issue).
It's so good to hear from everyone; maybe the discussion has us all
communicating.
Cindy
Washington Co
I just realized when I checked my sent, this did not go to the correct
address:
----------
> Bear with me as I am new to this.
>
> > > Section 4. A majority of those members voting shall elect. No member
> shall hold more than one voting office at any one time.
> > > [This says "members" members are defined as "anybody" above.
Shouldn't
> > > voters be CCs and TCs, one site one vote?] *** I think it should be
all
> CCs, any ACCs(only one per county, the CC must have informed SC and
FLGEN-L
> of the ACC appointment at least 3 months before the election) ***
>
> Does this mean that those CCs who have more than one County would have
> only one vote. If so this should be clarified.
>
> > > Section 6. The State Coordinator shall be elected to a one year term.
>
> For continuity should the SC also be for a two year term? or would the
ASC
> move up to tha position?
>
> > > ARTICLE X. COUNTY PROJECTS
> > > Section 3. Each County must have an easily accessible Query Page.
> Queries
> > > should be updated regularly.
> > > [DELETE, query pages, with over 3000 mailing lists processing over
> > > 3,000,000 messages per day on RootsWeb alone, are holdover from
pencil
> and > paper genealogy and a burden on CCs]*** I totally disagree, If a CC
> does not want to deal with a Query page a third party should be allowed
to
> create one that should be linked from that county's site. I have never
> been more dissappointed than when I visit a site without an adequate
Query
> page. ***
>
> What does "easily accessible" and "updated" mean? Ability to submit a
> query? Answer and delete outdated adresses?
>
>
> Jean Witherington
> Working on Osceola County
> jow(a)phoenixat.com
> From Florida keeping an eye on Hurricanes
>