Oh dear, Robert, my mostly flippant comment, is now causing confusion, it
Here is my attempt to try to correct any misunderstandings of what I
I did NOT intend to make any disparaging comment on the very helpful
contribution which you posted about the pronunciation of the word McGrath
Rather, I was mostly flippantly, but with a small amount of seriousness,
commenting on what you had seen as a HELPFUL example of how to pronounce the
word, where you gave as that example, the word GRASS.
Personally, I pronounce GRASS exactly the way which you intended it to be
pronounced in the example which you gave.
However, I am aware that most Americans do not pronounce "grass" that way.
That is, they pronounce the "a" sound, mostly like the sound of the
"apple". Hence why I said "grass" pronounced as in "ass"
animal, and not someone's posterior).
And similarly, most of the Northern Britishers who I have encountered, also
pronounce "grass" much like the Americans do.
With those beliefs or understandings, I thought that anyone who did
pronounce "grass" like ASS, would therefore NOT pick up on the pronunciation
of McGrath which is current in Ireland which you had intended.
Phew! My apologies to everyone for littering this list with even more
verbiage; where I had hoped that a quick contribution might have helped
clarify any misunderstandings.
Regards to yourself Robert, and to all other listers here.
A chastened Ray in Oz.
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From: "Ulster Ancestry" <ulsterancestry(a)hotmail.com>
Not sure if I fully understand what your saying!
"McGrath" I have found in England pronounced as "Mag rath" as in
wrath"[anger] while here in Ireland the "th" is silent and it is