Hi again Penne.
Thanks for this full reply.
Here is a different thought, regarding his father.
Go to this site:
That is for the free online pages of the Griffiths Valuation of Ireland.
You could try searching merely for the surname of BEATTIE, and separately
for each variant spelling.
Each of those will throw up a lot of hits all over Ireland for you, of
BEATTIEs who were landowner or tenants around the mid 1800s in Ireland.
You could narrow the searches further by looking for the forename of Samuel
as well as each surname spelling.
You could also try looking for the forename Edward along with each variant
In all that should give you a lot of POSSIBLE family members -- especially
for those in counties Fermanagh and Tyrone.
At the same URL you will find a blue hyperlink to a search by PLACENAME.
Hit on that and enter the name of your townland -- not sure which spelling.
Probably better to try Viola's suggested one first.
The results from that should show you all of the people who are shown on
Griffiths as occupiers of one sort or another on that townland.
I assume that you have already looked at our own wonderful Fermanagh-Gold
website which is hosted for us by the marvellous David JOHNSTON here in oz.
I know from looking there through the recent postings from the parish of
Derryvollan (many alternative spellings for that parish-name too! This is
Ireland! roflmao ) that there were lots of church BDM entries for the
surname of BETTY, which seemed to my eyes to be a synonymous spelling with
BEATTIE, BEATTY etc. Perhaps you might find clues in there.
I'd also suggest looking at the excellent web-site for the rootsweb
countytyroneireland list and searching there for each alternative spelling
of BEATTIE; as you will be sure to have lots of hits there too.
Reverting to the military issue again, have a look at the indexes at
rootsweb to their lists in Oz and NZ and under subject of MILITARY more
generally; to see lists which you might join for expert assistance with
different aspects of your fellow's military history. For example I think
that there might be one on the Maori wars etc.
I am personally unsure about that South Australian enlistment in the mid
1800s, as to whether his details might be in South Ozzie STATE archives, or
UK archives, or perhaps in the National Australian Archives -- remembering
that Australia was only formed as a federation in 1901 out of the former
British COLONIES which became the States --- ; or in the Australian War
Memorial's records. Again, sorry to be so vague. I have lost MOST of my
former knowledge on most topics.
ray in oz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Penne" <pennell(a)xtra.co.nz>
Ray,I thank you very much for this helpful info.
We have a man here that falls outside the norm. While at the barracks in
1851 cencus ,born Lismalla, we have our Edward.Unfortunately the names are
listed,not in regiments. An Edwards eye is caught by the 16 yr old
of a gunsmith from the same barracks ,they marry the next year in 1852 in
Dover with his reg on the marriage being given as Corporal 67th , his
father being Samuel a carpenter. They have two children Edwards occupation
being a police officer at one of the births.
In the meantime an Edward Beatty/ie arrives in South Australia to work as
labourer in the mines.This Edward is born Lismalla so it is assumed he is
the one from the Barracks (above) he marries 1858. with a father Samuel
Edward enlists into a Volunteer force (keen to find this enlistment) in
1864 Adelaide, and he and this family proceed to NZ on the "Brilliant" to
participate in the land wars.
Now in 1863 the gunsmith and family including daughter and grandchildren
emigrate to Victoria Australia. If it's the same man did Edward know??
Our NZ Edward was a heavy drinker, and not very many years after his NZ
arrival he dies from its effect. Now do we have two Edward Beatty/ies.
is why I am keen to find some Army records.Sorry it's so complicated.