You can actually turn most of those features off - especially the phone
home bit. You just have to be vigilant when it's installing and choose
what it does for yourself rather than just letting it get on with it.
I've chosen not to have my laptop 'talk' to any of the features on offer
during the set up process. I don't log in with an MS account either,
just locally, so the 'find my computer' feature is automatically off (it
does tell you that it won't work anyway if you're logging on to a work
or school system). In recent versions of the install process, there is
also an option to deal with updates, although you can't turn them off
In any event, I've found that if an MS update causes a glitch, it's put
right within a couple of days. Fingers crossed - I've not had any
glitches after updates for months now.
I don't knowingly use Microsoft searches, unless by that you mean when
you're in windows explorer (not IE), which can be a bit sluggish on
occasion. I don't use Edge or Internet Explorer either. I use Firefox
and Chrome usually. I've never liked the MS browsers - too prone to
crashes & bugs.
In my opinion as a long time Windows user (& it is just my opinion, I'm
not expecting everyone to agree), Windows 10 is way better than Windows
8 & 8.1. It's equal to Windows 7 but much faster & a lot more stable
than anything that's gone before.
I'm not talking about corporate installations, just private use. I get
the feeling that no-one else on this list will be talking about
corporate installations either. Obviously, they have different issues
than a home user.
The Windows 10 platform is progressing all the time as people point out
issues. For once, MS are doing a good job of keeping up and doing what
the customer wants.
On 19/04/2016 20:36, Malcolm Smith wrote:
There are loads of reasons not to 'upgrade'. The first is that MS
basically will force updates onto everyone and you can't stop the
updates happening unless you have a corporate edition of Win10. So that
means that if there are any bugs in any updates which are less than
wonderful, for example any of the Microsoft Searches, then you can't
exclude that update but you can only delay them.
I have blocked any number of Windows updates because they simply don't
work. For example, there's a Windows update which is one of many of
their security updates and yet it can bork Excel .xlsm files if they
have Active-X components on the sheet. This is a well known problem
and a lot of developers have blocked this update. It hasn't been fixed
so imagine if I am running Windows 10; I will have a Windows platform
that I can't use for Excel development (and there is a similar, but
different, update which borks Word documents in a similar manner).
In the mobile phone and tablet market the manufacturer of each device
releases the operating system when they know it works on their kit. If
one has a phone/tablet then you will have a certain known
configuration. A PC is something different. If you looked at my home
rig, which I had built to my specification, then there is no way that
Microsoft knows that their update will work on that rig or not. And
if they have an update which comes along and is going to bork my rig
then how can I stop it coming down if I can only delay the update.
That's one issue. The other is what a lot of people, particularly
industry, are concerned about. It's the 'Ring Home' which cannot be
turned off. I don't want Microsoft to ring home about what I am doing,
what I am running and the like. Yes, some of it can be closed down but
there's a heck of a lot there that can't. This is a security risk and
I don't want my data being slurped by Microsoft at all.
And then there's the question of device drivers which may or not work
and a host of other issues which are in Windows 10. In fact, I would
go so far as to say the opposite: what does Windows 10 do for more that
isn't done in previous versions which should encourage me to move
Sorry. No. I won't be going at all. I upgraded from Windows 8 to
Windows 7 and that made a heck of a difference and I certainly won't be
upgrading the other way.